View Full Version : Rockstar have been bullied...
seregrail7
09-01-2006, 06:31 AM
Into changing the name of Bully. (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67226)
There's also a nice preview (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67228) there.
Canis Canem
What a uncatchy name.
hell-angel
09-01-2006, 07:06 AM
Weak move :(
ShadeEX
09-01-2006, 07:17 AM
Canis Canem Edit.. to be exact.. but well the Rockstar Label should be enough to still sell this right..?!?
Mr.Sociopath
09-01-2006, 07:32 AM
dunno ..I think it,s not that bad..
the name made me think they could put some kind of elitist kind of thing in the game in which the player would be confronted ..maybe with the skull and bones society or something similar :p
Marty
09-01-2006, 07:45 AM
if this game is gonna be anything like The Warriors (or GTA) it will rock. the videos look cool
seregrail7
09-01-2006, 08:34 AM
It doesn't sound anything like The Warriors, read the preview. It still sounds excellent.
Marty
09-01-2006, 08:39 AM
well they said it had similar combat mechanism
Wamplet
09-01-2006, 08:51 AM
Weird. They should just call it Bullworth Academy. At least the school keeps its name. :)
Mongorian
09-01-2006, 08:53 AM
A name in latin will totally be lost on their target audience. :p
What the hell is wrong with "Bully"? It won't get abbreviations. And you know what the game is about - bullies.
Now we'll get people asking "Hey I heard of this game called Canis Canem Edit I heard it's pretty cool I asked my friend but I want to ask you guys if CCE is any good and what is it about?" :p
They obviously changed the name because of the political pressure from others. Glorifying the aspects of being a "bully" is alittle frowned upon with parents and political advisors.
Kristian Joensen
09-01-2006, 11:25 AM
Why couldn't they just call it "Dog eat dog" that is what the new name means anyway.
As far as it looks like, this looks like it'll just be named Canis Canum Edit for the Euro release, and it will still be named Bully in the US.
Higher Game
09-01-2006, 12:06 PM
That is one great looking game cover; it looks like it will really stand out. I think this will be a good game. :)
8IronBob
09-01-2006, 12:32 PM
Pfft, is there anything that R* has NOT been bashed for yet? Geesh, I can see GTA 4 being challenged in the near future on top of this. I can only imagine what Nintendo would feel about half of R*'s games anymore, the big N wouldn't want any of their games on the Wii or DS, but they were dumb enough to let GTA get onto the GBA. Whew, I can see where this is going with Lieberman and Thompson again...
seregrail7
09-01-2006, 01:12 PM
I find it funny how none of the usual suspects seem to give a shit about Saints Row's content.
Duoae
09-01-2006, 01:27 PM
They probably blame it on Rockstar as well... considering it's a "copycat" game anyway. Jack's probably sitting in his easychair saying, "This new rockstar game, Grand theft auto: Saint's Row, is a murder simulator!"
Tang Lung
09-01-2006, 01:30 PM
"This new rockstar game, Grand theft auto: Saint's Row, is a murder simulator!"
That coming out of a politicians mouth would not suprise me in the least.
Hudson
09-01-2006, 02:24 PM
I'm losing faith in this world.
If politicians had their way we'd all be playing Dora the Explorer mini games and hug simulators.
If politicians had their way we'd all be playing Dora the Explorer mini games and hug simulators.
Communism ftw
Laser Eyes
09-01-2006, 09:07 PM
That's the stupidest name for a game that I've ever heard.
Telee
09-01-2006, 09:41 PM
On the game case it looks good, but everywhere else it just sounds stupid.
Phait
09-01-2006, 10:38 PM
I'm losing faith in this world.
If politicians had their way we'd all be playing Dora the Explorer mini games and hug simulators.
Oh god I'm still laughing at this! :D Sigged!
The site hasn't changed:
http://www.rockstargames.com/bully/home/
8IronBob
09-01-2006, 10:51 PM
Bah, with that type of new name it's got now, it probably won't sell as much.
I'm losing faith in this world.
If politicians had their way we'd all be playing Dora the Explorer mini games and hug simulators.
I will defy you! I will design the most violent, racist, and sexist Dora the Explorer Hugging game ever! It will involve abortion rituals and crushing people's spines with bear hugs.
I want an AO-rated hugging simulator. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
Pfft, is there anything that R* has NOT been bashed for yet?
Table Tennis? Love that game, by the way. :D
i thought this game was about the new kid in school beating all the bullies?
if it is then what's the friggen problem? :mad:
sometimes i just hate....people.... :p
FireFly
09-02-2006, 05:58 AM
Why couldn't they just call it "Dog eat dog" that is what the new name means anyway.
Because it would be a lot easier for politicians to attack.
Dave-ros
09-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Never mind all that, the word "edit" in the title will make people think it's been edited for violence and language, so they won't bother buying it ;)
big fat lazy
09-02-2006, 11:06 AM
i thought this game was about the new kid in school beating all the bullies?
if it is then what's the friggen problem? :mad:
sometimes i just hate....people.... :p
Yeah from the trailer it looks like you help other kids with their bully problems.
Yeah and kids are gonna bully even if they haven't played this game. It's just natural. It's not acceptable per se, but blaming it on a game is just plain silly. I can understand, in a way, that they do this for people going on a GTA-inspired shooting spree because it's not something that happens everyday, but kids have bullied long before computers were even born.
So "this game makes kids become bullies!" is pretty stupid. They would become bullies anyway, sometimes even without realizing it ;)
Telee
09-02-2006, 11:28 AM
Yeah, it's not like a kid is gonna say, "There's a video game called 'Bully' so I'm gonna bully you!" :D
Dave-ros
09-02-2006, 11:49 AM
What if the tough kid at school bullies a nerd for his copy of Bully? Would that count? ;)
Paroxysm
09-02-2006, 06:39 PM
It's a clever motto for the school(latin + pun) but a pretty terrible name for a game.
Dr. Kill
09-03-2006, 09:42 AM
This game definately gets a pass from me now. LAME. :mryuck:
Rockstar? What happened?! You used to kick ass.
If Rockstar really do lame out like this, I have little hope for GTA IV. Looks like Volition (Saint's Row) will have to carry the torch. GTA might be done.
Hyperactive Slob
09-03-2006, 09:52 AM
Although the name is bad I can't wait to beat the shite out of the bullies in game.
If Rockstar really do lame out like this, I have little hope for GTA IV. .
Oh haven't you heard? They'll rename the game to Bigus Nickus Autorum IV (as the article says ;) :D)
pjohnsonjr
09-03-2006, 12:20 PM
Rockstar is in a point where they're basically the poster child of everything "wrong" with video games. They have quite a few senators that'd still love to make a public example of them by pulling their spine out from their backside.
So if this protects them from further scrutiny fine. I don't blame them. Because sometimes there's a line you can't cross, and Bully is one of those games that'd easily cross the line to where they can get their spine pulled out from underneath. Not a pretty sight.
Paroxysm
09-03-2006, 05:46 PM
If Rockstar really do lame out like this, I have little hope for GTA IV.
You realise it's not the same developers right?
The name change is for Australia and the UK only:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/730/730186p1.html
Dr. Kill
09-03-2006, 10:13 PM
The name change is for Australia and the UK only:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/730/730186p1.html
good. :)
Kristian Joensen
09-04-2006, 03:07 AM
The name change is for Australia and the UK only:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/730/730186p1.html
According to your link the name change applies to the rest of Europe aswell not just the UK.
sawn_off
09-04-2006, 03:55 AM
It's a name, and it'll probably be better referred as Bully anyways. This'll inspire nerds to beat up people, and thus the universe shall balance. Stupid people, shunning the one thing that will fix public schools forever.
I've never heard of a game being unpopular for its title anyways. Aside from boxart being accused for poor sales of ICO in the states, I think it all rests on the previews, interviews and reviews.
ShadeEX
09-04-2006, 04:06 AM
Well actually to be honest they can call the game "Beat the crap out of other students" for all i care and i would still buy it..
8IronBob
09-04-2006, 08:11 AM
Yeah, knowing R*, for other countries it would have to be heavily censored, on top of that. Whew, why's it always R* that's being targeted by the feds? There's other companies that're doing this same stuff (RWS for example). Seems like there's at least a half a dozen other companies they can target outside of them...
Needle
09-04-2006, 09:37 AM
*shrug* "Bully" was a stupid name, too.
seregrail7
09-04-2006, 12:39 PM
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Duoae
09-04-2006, 02:25 PM
I quite like Dog-eat-Dog...
Marty
10-16-2006, 08:50 PM
8.9 at IGN
im soooooo getting this :love:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/739/739134p1.html
Hudson
10-16-2006, 08:58 PM
Haha, it isn't NEARLY as bad as anyone had predicted :D
Scream
10-16-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah, knowing R*, for other countries it would have to be heavily censored, on top of that. Whew, why's it always R* that's being targeted by the feds? There's other companies that're doing this same stuff (RWS for example). Seems like there's at least a half a dozen other companies they can target outside of them...
Rockstar is successful, and actually has some influence on the gaming public through the HUGE volume of their games that are sold.
RWS puts up Paypal links on their website begging for money, and has very little influence over anyone as almost nobody buys their games. No point in targeting a company that is one rent cheque away from bankruptcy...
Hudson
10-17-2006, 07:08 AM
I agree, but I still like RWS ;)
Tetsuro
10-17-2006, 08:23 AM
This name change is retarded.
It's just as retarded as how 'Ninja Gaiden' and 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' were called 'Shadow Warrior' and 'Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles' respectively in the UK and Germany, because the word 'ninja' was offensive.
Sayantan
10-17-2006, 08:43 AM
Is it a R* north game?
This name change is retarded.
It's just as retarded as how 'Ninja Gaiden' and 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' were called 'Shadow Warrior' and 'Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles' respectively in the UK and Germany, because the word 'ninja' was offensive.
"Ninja" is offensive? Huh?
Also Shadow Warrior <3
Hudson
10-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Is it a R* north game?
No.
R* North (DMA Designs) had nothing do do with this game, Bully was made by R* Vancouver (Barking Dog Studios)
seregrail7
10-17-2006, 10:20 AM
Sayantan: No, Rockstar Vancouver, however several staff members from Rockstar North, and a few other Rockstar offices worked in the Vancouver office on Bully.
Sigh. (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68776):(
Hudson
10-17-2006, 10:38 AM
That's why man created the internet.
.. Well, besides for the porn.
Mongorian
10-17-2006, 11:24 AM
After reading that link seregrail, I can't help but feel Bully is being completely misinterpreted. It's partially Rockstar's fault, as their pension for stirring up controversy does them no favors here. And I'm sure Rockstar was looking to get people's attention with Bully, but I think the game is being misjudged.
At the heart of Bully seems to be a fairly standard hub-based, quasi-platformer. And those shops seem to be taking pre-orders to GTA IV easily enough.
Damien_Azreal
10-19-2006, 11:49 AM
So has anyone picked it up yet? I saw copies out at Wal-Mart when I picked up Family Guy but didn't have enough money for both.
Scream
10-20-2006, 09:43 AM
Gamespot gave it an 8.7, and a very positive written review:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/bully/review.html
8IronBob
10-20-2006, 09:50 AM
Yeah, saw the ads on TV already, waiting for a price drop before getting the X360 version of the game. May not happen too soon, unfortunately.
seregrail7
10-20-2006, 11:15 AM
I doubt it will happen.
I'll be getting it as soon as it hits Europe.
Kev_Boy
10-20-2006, 11:35 AM
Apparently developing for the PS2 is a good excuse for bad graphics.
I'm not saying the graphics are bad for being a PS2 game, i'm saying the graphics are bad.
seregrail7
10-20-2006, 12:33 PM
If they have to have bad graphics to have a lot of content, I'm all for it.
Tetsuro
10-21-2006, 10:48 AM
"Ninja" is offensive? Huh?
Don't ask. I don't know what the hell they were thinking.
And WAS. At least UK has wisened up. Back then, TMNT (or TMHT rather) was censored to hell, nearly all weapon use was cut out and all kinds of insane sh*t...
Scream
10-28-2006, 10:05 AM
Here's another one from the "much ado about nothing" file:
"Gamemaker courts new controversy--boys kissing"
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-6130423.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed
Hudson
10-28-2006, 10:48 AM
Well, if they attack Take 2 with that, they'll also have to attack EA for the Sims (both rated Teen).. and considering EA has more money than God I can't see this going anywhere.
avatar_58
10-28-2006, 11:57 AM
Funny.....homosexuality is considered "Adult Content" by some and yet even the most tame kiddy games have hetero kissing. You know what? I think I'm starting to really like Rockstar, they are managing to prove how hypocritical and backwards society really is.
Its also funny as hell to listen to everyone say Bully is "the devil" when its been proven outright that its one of the least violent games of the year. This is like Rockstar's revenge on the media/soccer mom.
Scream
10-28-2006, 12:01 PM
Funny.....homosexuality is considered "Adult Content" by some and yet even the most tame kiddy games have hetero kissing. You know what? I think I'm starting to really like Rockstar, they are managing to prove how hypocritical and backwards society really is.
Its also funny as hell to listen to everyone say Bully is "the devil" when its been proven outright that its one of the least violent games of the year. This is like Rockstar's revenge on the media/soccer mom.
I agree. The last two games I think Rockstar has released are Table Tennis and Bully. A bit of a departure (esp Table Tennis), but you'd think they'd get cut some slack. Anyway, I'd be interested to know if Jack Thompson will be worried that Bully is a "Homosexual Simulator" designed to train teenage boys to kiss each other.
Whatever shall we do?
There's nothing you can do. The non-gamers out there only want to hear that their claims are being verified. Tell them that videogames are indeed evil and they'll be happy. There is no room for rational thinking and logic when it comes to games.
Tetsuro
10-28-2006, 01:15 PM
Well, if they attack Take 2 with that, they'll also have to attack EA for the Sims (both rated Teen).. and considering EA has more money than God I can't see this going anywhere.
I agree. The Sims did it first!
Gotta love this quote though:
"I can't have my kids playing this game. This is morally reprehensible. GTA (Grand Theft Auto) is a real man's game, Bully is a disgrace,"
So killing, maiming and stealing is okay, as long as there's no innocent love between boys? :D
luke88
10-28-2006, 04:09 PM
I got the game a few days ago. It's actually quite good! Gameplay is much like every other game Rockstar have made using their (constantly updated) GTA engine, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's basically GTA kiddy style (as I'm sure you already know). I can't see why the game is so controversial though. The concepts may be bad, but in game, they're nothing worse than what's already been out for years.
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