Unreal bundle? When? [Archive]

Damien_Azreal

09-04-2006, 03:35 PM

...isnt that pretty much what all the UT's are? The next one is the exact same as the last one + new stuff?

Well, UT used a slightly updated version of Unreal's engine. Had some cool weapons and such. UT2K3 was on the UE2, looked completely different, felt different. Had new gameplay modes, weapons, character's levels.
UT2K3 was a brand new game. In a way it feels more Quake like gameplay feel wise.
UT2K4, has alll the maps, characters, weapons. from 2K3 plus more. So if you get 2K4 you don't need 2K3. But UT is a must.

For the record... I have all the Unreal games. :p

Iggy

09-04-2006, 03:36 PM

i thought that was out already? or was that another bundle. in any case, already have ut2k3/4 unreal2 only game i still want is UT, if i ever come across it.
Bol.com has it. (http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1004004000001065&Section=GAMES&lgl=1&plid=XWiR5LdHUWwAAAENCfOPPnqI&lgl_BOL_OWNER_ID=1&lgl_Section=1)

Too bad none of my webshops seems to have or expect to receive this Unreal Anthology. :/

Phayzon

09-04-2006, 03:55 PM

Well, UT used a slightly updated version of Unreal's engine. Had some cool weapons and such. UT2K3 was on the UE2, looked completely different, felt different. Had new gameplay modes, weapons, character's levels.
UT2K3 was a brand new game. In a way it feels more Quake like gameplay feel wise.
UT2K4, has alll the maps, characters, weapons. from 2K3 plus more. So if you get 2K4 you don't need 2K3. But UT is a must.

Oh, ok. :)

jimbob

09-04-2006, 04:04 PM

Bol.com has it. (http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1004004000001065&Section=GAMES&lgl=1&plid=XWiR5LdHUWwAAAENCfOPPnqI&lgl_BOL_OWNER_ID=1&lgl_Section=1)

Too bad none of my webshops seems to have or expect to receive this Unreal Anthology. :/

i know, i can get it but i`m in no real hurry because no-one plays it anymore :(

infact, we rented a server a year ago hoping for "The good old times" but it was abandoned apart from us most of the time :(

Steve

09-04-2006, 07:52 PM

getting ut2k3 if you already own ut2k4 is a waste of money since ut2k4 basically is ut2k3 but with tons of added stuff.
I found that out the hard way...

Karthik

09-05-2006, 08:28 AM

Ah, found it. It's called 'Unreal Anthology' and is apparently out on 13/10/2006 in Brit-land.
If you mean THIS (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/unreal/news.html?sid=6152790) then I must warn you that Midway's PC titles are loaded with Starforce 3. I suggest you get all previous games from the bargain bins instead of risking SF3 infections.

Destroyer

09-05-2006, 08:42 AM

i thought that was out already? or was that another bundle. in any case, already have ut2k3/4 unreal2 only game i still want is UT, if i ever come across it.
The original UT rocks When i moved 2 years ago I acciendently took my cousins UT game of the year edition, and it rocked, I still have it.:)

Hudson

09-05-2006, 02:29 PM

Didn't someone make a mod for UT2K3/4 that resembles the original UT?

Damien_Azreal

09-05-2006, 03:04 PM

I found that out the hard way...

I have UT2K3 and UT2K4 as well, while I was upset that it was basically the same game twice... I didn't buy either at release so I got them both at bargin bin price.
But the intro to UT2K3 was cooler than 2K4's IMO. Very cool intro.

Iggy

09-05-2006, 03:54 PM

I have UT2K3 and UT2K4 as well, while I was upset that it was basically the same game twice... I didn't buy either at release so I got them both at bargin bin price.
But the intro to UT2K3 was cooler than 2K4's IMO. Very cool intro.

I bought the two of them at the day of their release. I never really minded it though.

Sang

09-06-2006, 07:19 AM

I only have UT2k4 (but I have played the others) and I would say, if you have UT2k3, sell it and get 2004 instead. It has new gameplay options which (imo) justifies a buy.. (does that sentence make any sense?). With the money you got from 2003 you could get 2004! Wootz!

I'm kinda looking forward to that new Conquest (or whatever) mode in UT2k7. If the maps are huge and interesting (unlike the Onslaught ones which weren't all too worthwhile at all apart from being big) it might be cool :)

ZaphodB

09-06-2006, 07:40 AM

I have unreal (3dfx ver, came with voodoo3), unreal (retail), UT, UT2k3, UT2k4, and Totaly Unreal (which has unreal gold (unreal and return to na-pali) and UT GOTY). Fav map of all time is a CTF in UT called Hall of Giants. If I didn't allready own all of these, I'd buy the new anthology.

crunchy superman

09-06-2006, 09:35 AM

Didn't someone make a mod for UT2K3/4 that resembles the original UT?

Only one close that I'm aware of is Classic UT. However, it only changes the weapon fire modes, damage & rates of fire to that of UT99, not the weapon models themselves.

Babe

09-08-2006, 02:56 AM

If you mean THIS (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/unreal/news.html?sid=6152790) then I must warn you that Midway's PC titles are loaded with Starforce 3. I suggest you get all previous games from the bargain bins instead of risking SF3 infections.

How can you be so sure man ? But if it is true that they will have the StarForce 3 infection, I am staying away from purchasing this one then :( ! Other copy protection atleast dont **** up the system, StarForce kills the system :mad: .

Karthik

09-10-2006, 10:17 AM

Look at Midway's recent PC games, then come back to me and tell me if they are using SF3.

Damien_Azreal

09-10-2006, 11:06 AM

Well, if they have SF3 then f*ck em... but if not, could be a great buy for collector's.
Wonder, if Midway is using SF3 in their games (could someone actualy confirm with games) then will UT2K7 have it? :eek:

Phayzon

09-10-2006, 12:04 PM

Aww man :mad:

Foxy

09-10-2006, 12:14 PM

WTF is the point in putting Starforce on the bundle? It's a freaking budget line. The ISOs have been floating around the web for goddamn years. Give it a rest ffs.

Babe

09-16-2006, 01:24 PM

Exactly, the only people who will buy this are gamers who like to buy great games and add it to their collection. Why make their life miserable with StarForce infection :( ?

I already have Unreal Gold, UT GOTY , Unreal II The Awakening and UT2004 ECE. I would still like to buy the Anthology pack for total collection only if they dont infect the release with StarForce infection.

Damien_Azreal

09-16-2006, 03:11 PM

I own all the unreal games except "Return to Na Pali" but I heard it wasn't very good. So I never bothered with it.

ZaphodB

09-16-2006, 03:29 PM

I own all the unreal games except "Return to Na Pali" but I heard it wasn't very good. So I never bothered with it.

Dude, return to Na Pali blows unreal 2 away, tis well worth the purchase. It may be the same graphics as the original unreal, but it completes the story (you aren't stuck floating in orbit in an escape pod anymore).

Damien_Azreal

09-16-2006, 05:27 PM

Well, I thought/think that Unreal blows. :p I can't stand the original Unreal. It's boring, way to long, weapons and enemies are dull and unsatisfying.

And other than the pretty graphics (which aren't that pretty anymore) the game doesn't really have anything going for it.

I actualy enjoyed Unreal 2 much more than Unreal. True the story is very b-level, and it doesn't really add any new ides to the gameplay or shooter genre. But it is a fun, mindless little romp. And sometiems that's more than enough.

K T Ong

09-16-2006, 11:35 PM

Unreal = superb.

Return to Na Pali = superb, too.

UT = superb.

Unreal 2 = ...ummm, haven't tried it, but the fact that it had no more Nali and wasn't set on Na Pali anymore kinda disappointed me...

UT2k4 = superb graphics, lousy at everything else. They just threw away too much of the old Unreal/UT content. Nearly all the old bots of UT are gone, and the new ones just aren't as funny as UT's anymore. Their voices suck as well, and so does the music (no longer by Alex Brandon).

UT2k7 = ...I wonder...

Babe

09-17-2006, 11:46 PM

Unreal Gold = Superb all right
Unreal Tournament Game Of the Year Edition = Superb
Unreal II The Awakening = Completely lame, just a superb eye candy
Unreal Tournament 2004 Editor's Choice Edition = Superb, but gameplay wise doesnt have the same feeling as original Tournament, rather you have a 'floaty' experience. However superior in graphics.

Babe

10-22-2006, 10:47 PM

Does anybody know if the game is in the shelves of EB games yet ? I see in the web site that the game is due to be out today, on 23rd Oct, 2006 :love: ? And if you have already got a copy, are the game CDs infected with Starforce :doh: ?

Tetsuro

10-23-2006, 04:32 AM

I already own Unreal, UT and UT2k4 so all I need is Na Pali and Unreal 2.

Can someone give me a brief summary of the story of what exactly U2 is about?

ZaphodB

10-23-2006, 04:44 AM

You're a marshall in the backwoods of space hopping to different planets recovering an artifact. You fight marines and Skarrj. Game is mainly graphics candy IMO.

crunchy superman

10-23-2006, 07:45 AM

. . . and so does the music (no longer by Alex Brandon).

UT2k7 = ...I wonder...

Alexander Brandon is doing the music for UT2K7.

Iggy

10-23-2006, 07:47 AM

Does anybody know if the game is in the shelves of EB games yet ? I see in the web site that the game is due to be out today, on 23rd Oct, 2006 :love: ?
The stores here report a release date of November 3 (on DVD). (But I don't live in the US)

And if you have already got a copy, are the game CDs infected with Starforce :doh: ?
I seriously hope not since it would completely ruin a perfect good collection I would love to get. I might still get it regardless of StarHell just for the sake of collecting good games.

Dukefrukem

10-23-2006, 08:31 AM

how much is this going for?

Thriller

10-23-2006, 08:52 AM

Unreal Tournament (the original) is, IMO, still the most fun multiplayer FPS ever made.

EDIT: Duke3D! How can I forget. They will have to tie the first place.
CTF has never been as fun as in ´99 though.

Nessus

10-23-2006, 09:51 AM

Dukefrukem

10-23-2006, 10:02 AM

To me nothing satisifies like the original UT. The weaoons just feel better and so does the gameplay. They never got the sniper rilfe right again, even when they supposedly added it back in it wasn't the same.

All I really want is original UT with modern graphics, I dont even care about all of the new stuff. For whatever reason they refuse to do that, even as a mutator or option.

I agree so much... classic was so much damn fun...and it pretty much revolutionized multiplayer gaming as we know it... 03 IMO sucked and 04 was a great rebound with onslaught mode… im still excited for 07

Iggy

10-23-2006, 10:57 AM

how much is this going for?
28,99 euro in my country.

Babe

10-23-2006, 08:32 PM

Here in Australia, the release date is 3rd Nov. Is there anyone here from US who can check if the game is alreaday available in the EB games stores up there ?

And the cost here is 49.95 AUD .

Malgon

10-25-2006, 07:50 AM

UT rocked hard, and it's a shame I haven't played it at all in the last couple of years. :(

Iggy

10-27-2006, 07:08 AM

Small update, it's already out here in the Netherlands for the price of 29,99 Euro. I'm doubting of getting it or not, just for collecting purposes.

Babe

10-27-2006, 11:20 PM

Kool, is there any one from Netherlands then who has purchased a copy and say if it contains StarForce ?

Babe

11-09-2006, 07:58 PM

Here is what an user who purchased the Unreal Anthology bundle says about it in the UT forums

Just got UA. Has a music CD.

and more

copy protection is just CD-Key like other games, thats it, no CD required in the player. technically everything is patched to the latest at release.
Its on ONE DVD with the music CD.
I have never known EPIC to use any rediculous copy protection schemes that raise the ire of the PC users or try to interfect the user PC.

and more

The Installer? just pop the CD in and it goes...
It has a skaarj face and scenes from the various games changing while installing, and unreal music going.

for the game launcher, it shows the 4 games click on the game to launch it.

If you have trouble using the CD game installer, just look for the setup proggie
on the CD. All games or in CAB files so there is only one setup proggie.
Apparently the installer and game launcher need WinXP, but the games do not. When your done installing, just nab the program file for each game and make a shortcut

and still more

not exactly new content, I poked around UGold, the Legend and InfoGrames logos are removed from the intro and DE inserted or retained.
U2 is the same but no XMP.
UT99 is the same but they used version 436 not 432 as the original GOTY version is, so no patching needed there.
I would assume UT2k4 is patched to the latest version.

So it seems that the game only has CD checks for legit online play, which is 100 % fair enough and NO copy protections, not even DVD checks. And definitely NO Starforce infection. YEY.

Now only to wait till 23rd of this month when it will be available here in Australia :).

Phayzon

11-10-2006, 11:41 PM

Cool, I had forgetten about this. :)

Iggy

11-11-2006, 03:21 AM

Excellent, I just pre-orderd this title. (Along with Dungeon Siege II Special Edition)

Foxy

11-11-2006, 05:42 AM

No Starforce? kewl. /order

Lengis

11-11-2006, 04:52 PM

...isnt that pretty much what all the UT's are? The next one is the exact same as the last one + new stuff?

No. UT2k7 is dropping most of the multiplayer gameplay modes. No assault, domination, or bombing run.

UT2k3/4 was significantly different from UT99 in both play style and look. So there's still merit to play UT99 still because it's unique enough. There is absolutely no reason to play UT2k3 over UT2k4 because UT2k4 is UT2k3 except better.

Iggy

11-18-2006, 04:09 AM

I just received Unreal Anthology and it indeed comes with a bonus Music cd with the following tracks;

Unreal;
1. Flightcastle (0:51)
2. Shared dig (2:34)
3. Dusk horizon (2:31)
4. Bluff Eversmoking (3:57)
5. Isotoxin (4:09)
6. Unreal Temple (Crypt) (4:12)

Unreal: Return to Na Pali;
1. Black Wind (3:10)

Unreal Tournament;
1. Unreal Tournament menu (2:00)
2. Foregone destruction (4:11)
3. Go down (3:00)
4. Botpack nine (4:49)
5. Mechanism eight (6:12)
6. Skyward fire (4:56)
7. Razorback (4:49)
8. The course (4:28)

Unreal Tournament 2004;
1. Unreal Tournament Menu Redux (4:14)
2. Ghost of Anubis (2:01)
3. Infernal Realm (1:59)
4. Assault (1:59)
5. Arena (0:53)
6. From below (1:59)
7. Sniper time (2:00)
8. Onslaught one (3:48)

I'll install a game and check whether or not StarForce is installed or not. I'm guessing not.

Edit;
I just installed everything from the disc except UT2004 (already installed) and there's no StarForce present on my system. I guess it's safe.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4730/installmenulg3.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=installmenulg3.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/737/wallpaperir8.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpaperir8.jpg)

Damien_Azreal

11-18-2006, 12:19 PM

Nice, I already own every Unreal game except for Return to Na Pali... but I may pick this up. For collection reasons.

ZaphodB

11-18-2006, 03:16 PM

Yeah, I own all the Unreal series, so for me this would be redundant. But for someone who doesn't have the whole shebang, it looks to me like a good deal.

ShadeEX

11-20-2006, 09:19 AM

Hmm i only have Unreal II so this might be a good deal for me ill look into it..

jimbob

11-20-2006, 09:57 AM

just bought it, already love the music CD :D

i already owned Unreal 2, ut2k3 and ut2k4, but now i own unreal and Unreal tournament aswel \o/ and my UT2K4 DVD is somewhat damaged.

Gryph

11-20-2006, 07:42 PM

What kind of packaging is it and on how many pieces of media do the games come on?

jimbob

11-22-2006, 02:28 PM

regular DVD case, 1 DVD containing the games and 1 audio CD.

Foxy

11-24-2006, 07:41 AM

Ta for the track list Iggy. Made it easier to put in the titles when ripping the CD to flac ;)

jimbob

11-24-2006, 08:49 AM

tracklisting is also printed on the CD

Iggy

11-24-2006, 08:58 AM

What kind of packaging is it and on how many pieces of media do the games come on?
Here's a review with pictures. => http://www.beyondunreal.com/content/articles/172_1.php

Karthik

11-24-2006, 09:26 AM

Wow, I never noticed that UT used S3TC. So does that mean my original copy of UT had these S3TC textures?

Iggy

11-24-2006, 09:33 AM

Wow, I never noticed that UT used S3TC. So does that mean my original copy of UT had these S3TC textures?
I wouldn't know about the original one, the G.O.T.Y. edition did have those.

Foxy

11-24-2006, 10:43 AM

tracklisting is also printed on the CD

Kinda hard to read it when the CD's sitting in my DVD drive. :p

NutWrench

11-24-2006, 10:59 AM

Wow, I never noticed that UT used S3TC. So does that mean my original copy of UT had these S3TC textures?

The high-res textures are on the second CD. If you use the OldSkool mod, you can play the original Unreal game in UT using the high-res textures. (It's also a lot of fun to use the Translocator, Pulse Rifle, etc in Unreal.) :)

The Original Unreal had S3TC support. There's an old Unreal demo level called 'Egypt' that has some super-hi-res S3TC textures in it. The level design was really crappy, it was just meant to show off the textures.

For a complete bundle, I would love to see the shareware version of Unreal but a lot of folks might have problems getting it to work on todays machines.

jimbob

11-24-2006, 11:19 AM

Kinda hard to read it when the CD's sitting in my DVD drive. :pyeah, its pretty silly, but its there :)
dont know why there is no notification on a flyer in the box or something, its just as silly as those programs that print thier CD-Key on the CD :o

Iggy

11-24-2006, 01:33 PM

For a complete bundle, I would love to see the shareware version of Unreal but a lot of folks might have problems getting it to work on todays machines.
I was wondering how Midway in Heaven's name managed to cram all of those games onto just one DVD but now I'm getting an idea how since they not only left out all custom material made by gamers that was present in the original release of UT G.O.T.Y. and UT2k4 Editor's Choice Edition but also they left out the S3TC textures of UT. :doh: Like a double layered DVD or two DVD's is a problem, for example, Unreal Tournament 2004 Editor's Choice Edition was released on 7 or 9 cd's if I recall it correctly.

Gryph

11-24-2006, 09:26 PM

I saw it at Best Buy today and decided to get it. It's worth it just for having UT again. My ex-roommate stole my CD1 for my original copy of UT. :(

Babe

11-25-2006, 12:39 AM

Picked up my copy of Unreal Anthology from a EB Games store yesterday here in Australia :). It comes with a DVD of size approximately 6.5 GB size and a audio CD with 23 music titles in it. No plastic DVD case is included inside the packet, but just two paper sleves, one for the DVD and the CD each. Sadly my most favourite audio track from the original Unreal when the Skaarj makes its first appearance is not there. That music always got me dancing in my chair while playing that game. Sadly that music is not there in the music CD. The package also comes with a little paper poster for Unreal Tournament 2007 inside the package.

The real awsome thing is, I can now confirm since I have my own copy now, unlike Half Life Anthology, Unreal Anthology game doesnt have the STEAM infection. Also it doesn't have the much feared StarForce protection. Infact, the DVD doesnt have any type of copy protection or CD checks. So just install the games you want from the DVD with the provided serial key and then lock the DVD in your gaming cupboard :love: . You dont need the DVD to start and play the game. So that's just AWSOME.

Also the package automatically installs the latest Editors Choice Mega bonus pack content for UT2004. So in a sense the package installs the most updated package for UT2004, even later then the solo "Unreal Tournament 2004 Editor's Choice Edition". In other words, the "Editors Choice Mega bonus pack content " that was released after the Editor's Choice Edition has been release, also gets automatically installed by this package.

For a 49.95 AU Dollars , you cant find a better package.

Foxy

11-25-2006, 04:56 AM

Yeah. ++ for not needing the DVD in the drive. Clearly *someone* understands that it's pointless to wrap a re-release game in copy-protection.

jimbob

11-25-2006, 05:59 AM

epic never seems to have much CD copyprotection, plus they release tons of free stuff for thier games like map packs and stuff so they rate as one of my favourite companies around :D

Babe

11-29-2006, 11:16 PM

Epic is indeed a kool game company. I am still waiting for them to make Unreal III , after Unreal II turned out to be only an eye candy.

Karthik

11-30-2006, 04:36 AM

Midway probably left out the custom contents due to copyright and technical issues I guess. After all, Midway is console publisher first.

Babe

11-30-2006, 05:58 PM

I was wondering how Midway in Heaven's name managed to cram all of those games onto just one DVD but now I'm getting an idea how since they not only left out all custom material made by gamers that was present in the original release of UT G.O.T.Y. and UT2k4 Editor's Choice Edition but also they left out the S3TC textures of UT. :doh: Like a double layered DVD or two DVD's is a problem, for example, Unreal Tournament 2004 Editor's Choice Edition was released on 7 or 9 cd's if I recall it correctly.

What is this S3TC textures ? Is it some type of high resolution textures or what ? The DVD is indeed a dual layer DVD I gues since its contents are about 6.05 GB approx .

NutWrench

11-30-2006, 06:53 PM

What is this S3TC textures ? Is it some type of high resolution textures or what ?

Yes. It's a form of texture compression developed by S3 Graphics Ltd, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3_Graphics) which later became incorporated into DirectX 6.0. Here are some screenshots I made from a demo level called Egypt that was released in late 1998. There were only around 5-6 super high res textures in this level and they totalled around 30 megs, even with S3TC compression.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5273/eg1ma3.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5273/eg1ma3.jpg) http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3784/eg2yz7.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3784/eg2yz7.jpg) http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9531/eg3lo0.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9531/eg3lo0.jpg)