An enemy

[brabee]

Browsing through the old pictures, I noticed that on one old screenshot (http://www.duke4.net/images/screenshots/old/11.jpg) you can see a soldier with tentacles - one coming from his leg, the other one coming out of his mouth. I was just curious if he's still in DNF, because he looks really great IMO.

[Alexander]

I remember that screenshot pretty well.
We have seen some people getting somehow torn from the inside out in the video from 2001. could be an alien parasite duke is dealing with all through the game.
I bet if you shoot one infected npc apart, the whole alien is free and ready to jump right at you.

[brabee]

You're right! I hope they're still in. But... wouldn't it be better if, when you harm someone enough (like only with the pistol), the parasite would in some bloody way jump out of the person to save himself?

[Alexander]

Yeeaaaah. That's a cool idea!
I remember a scene where you could see how duke rides a donkey and shoots some guys head off (iff I'm right, though).
Right after the head was gone more tentacles came out, but sadly they didn't want to show more... :(
I hope they still stick to the idea! Just love those tentacles... Reminds me of "Urotsukidoji".. aaah yes, the good old japanese!

[DukeNukem_ags]

i hope they bring in every enemy from the original, from all the expansions, and even some of the ones from the arcade. in addition, lots of new enemies. if there was one flaw with the original, i think it needed a few more enemies (but thats just me).

[Commando Nukem]

i hope they bring in every enemy from the original, from all the expansions, and even some of the ones from the arcade. in addition, lots of new enemies. if there was one flaw with the original, i think it needed a few more enemies (but thats just me).

The original being Duke Nukem? Or do you mean Duke Nukem 3D?

[Michelangelo]

That scene was an alien of sorts using his tentacles to stab a EDF to death and not so sure about the parasites infesting people...

It's a kool enemy though :)

[infowars]

I agree!
duke3d could have used MORE enemies.

I'd like to see a handful of the old favs come back and a bunch of new ones!

I hope DNF will be the first game to have advanced ai with their enemies.

As far as AI goes; EVERY enemy in, EVERY game has the SAME exact ai system, as in they all share the same actions/reactions in general.

Pig cops should act/react complete different then all the other enemies...



That screenshot is still really cool! I cant wait till we get to see how the zombie/alien/edf troops look now! oh yeah!!!!

[brabee]

As far as AI goes; EVERY enemy in, EVERY game has the SAME exact ai system, as in they all share the same actions/reactions in general.

Pig cops should act/react complete different then all the other enemies...


What about Half-Life? If you compare aliens with soldiers, it was completely different experience fighting them IMO.

Now, back to the enemy, wouldnt it be cool if the parasite inside (if there is any of course) would jump out of almost dead people (in some bloody way ;) ) and try to get into another person, including Duke? I mean, if they would be quite tricky to kill/hurt enough and would move pretty fast outside a body, it could be an interesting gameplay moment, dont you think?

[Commando Nukem]

What about Half-Life? If you compare aliens with soldiers, it was completely different experience fighting them IMO.

Now, back to the enemy, wouldnt it be cool if the parasite inside (if there is any of course) would jump out of almost dead people (in some bloody way ;) ) and try to get into another person, including Duke? I mean, if they would be quite tricky to kill/hurt enough and would move pretty fast outside a body, it could be an interesting gameplay moment, dont you think?

Yeah, that comment by Infowars confuses me, if he means the actual code of monsters between games, hes dead wrong. You may get the same general result, but a lot of the code is written differently.

I always figured what was going on was more of a genetic thing then a parasitic thing. (thats what the lady in the trailer makes it sound like anyway. "They're *turning* into monsters") Of course, just because some spooked civilian says something doesn't make it true... But from a theatrical sense it seems like 3D Realms was trying to make that a big deal via editing.

[Micki!]

Now, back to the enemy, wouldnt it be cool if the parasite inside (if there is any of course) would jump out of almost dead people (in some bloody way ;) ) and try to get into another person, including Duke? I mean, if they would be quite tricky to kill/hurt enough and would move pretty fast outside a body, it could be an interesting gameplay moment, dont you think?


This partly reminds me of AVP2...
Gotta love to bite your way out of the chest of a living Human... (He was a real bastard anyways) :D

[brabee]

I always figured what was going on was more of a genetic thing then a parasitic thing. (thats what the lady in the trailer makes it sound like anyway. "They're *turning* into monsters") Of course, just because some spooked civilian says something doesn't make it true... But from a theatrical sense it seems like 3D Realms was trying to make that a big deal via editing.

Well you may be right, but "turning people into monsters" doesn't mean they have a factory for it or something like that (which would be cool though :) ) I think. But there may be both forms - mutated enemies as well as those controlled by a parasite. Remember the bug that Duke holds in one scene of the trailer? Which is, by the way, five years old...

[brabee]

This partly reminds me of AVP2...
Gotta love to bite your way out of the chest of a living Human... (He was a real bastard anyways) :D

Really? Hmm, I guess I should complete the whole game some day (I finished only the marine's campaign).
But I'played a couple of levels as the alien and yeah... bitting through the belly of the guy was pretty awesome :)

[Micki!]

The Alien campaign were one of my favorite FPS (!!?) gameplay moments of all time... deffenately something that is worth a sequel...

Where's AVP3..?! :(

[Montykoro!]

Where's AVP3..?! :(

When is done :P

[Micki!]

When is done :P
I wish i could hate that sentence, but it's part of something i love :dopefish:

[Commando Nukem]

I wish i could hate that sentence, but it's part of something i love :dopefish:

They'll probably never make AvP3, they basically killed the franchise as far as its abbility to make money with the AvP Movie (In their eyes, not in the common sense eyes of the individual.)

[cd_toaster]

Yeah, that comment by Infowars confuses me, if he means the actual code of monsters between games, hes dead wrong. You may get the same general result, but a lot of the code is written differently.

I always figured what was going on was more of a genetic thing then a parasitic thing. (thats what the lady in the trailer makes it sound like anyway. "They're *turning* into monsters") Of course, just because some spooked civilian says something doesn't make it true... But from a theatrical sense it seems like 3D Realms was trying to make that a big deal via editing.

haha how funny is the orginal game footage from the old trailer =D
its a shame all that work is scraped though, they should release a collectors edition with what they have of duke nukem forever on the original engine

[Commando Nukem]

haha how funny is the orginal game footage from the old trailer =D
its a shame all that work is scraped though, they should release a collectors edition with what they have of duke nukem forever on the original engine

Funny? Well the only part that would've made me laugh was the line "Hey pal, what are you gonna do? Save the world all by yourself???". The trailer goes into overtime though so you can't really laugh.

[Micki!]

They'll probably never make AvP3, they basically killed the franchise as far as its abbility to make money with the AvP Movie (In their eyes, not in the common sense eyes of the individual.)

If AVP2 movie turns out to be some piece of shit, then it's highly possible that no game will ever be made... unless it becomes rediculously popular... (or if it actually turns out to be good)

I'm NOT hoping for a game based on the movies in any case...
It should have it's own original story, like AVP2 had (damn, a movie based of this would have been great, if done right)

Erh, back to topic :o

[Kalki]

Gus made me laugh. The PMPN8EZ guy made me chuckle. The rest of it was quite sober fun.
They'll probably never make AvP3, they basically killed the franchise as far as its abbility to make money with the AvP Movie (In their eyes, not in the common sense eyes of the individual.)

I'd agree with you except they're making a sequel to the AvP movie so they must think they can squeeze some more money out of the franchise. So a third game may not be so far fetched.

Edit: 3 minutes Micki!, 3 whole minutes.

[Micki!]

Gus made me laugh. The PMPN8EZ guy made me chuckle. The rest of it was quite sober fun.


I'd agree with you except they're making a sequel to the AvP movie so they must think they can squeeze some more money out of the franchise. So a third game may not be so far fetched.


They BETTER do it the right way then... the best way to earn money, is to make a GOOD game... if they hire some incompetent team, and release some less-than-medicore game with no real story or characters, i'll send them a big letter filled with anthrax... ONE FOR EACH PERSON!!!:tinyted:



Edit: 3 minutes Micki!, 3 whole minutes.
Hehe, same thoughts..? :D

[Kalki]

They BETTER do it the right way then... the best way to earn money, is to make a GOOD game... if they hire some incompetent team, and release some less-than-medicore game with no real story or characters, i'll send them a big letter filled with anthrax... ONE FOR EACH PERSON!!!:tinyted:
AvP2 didn't end on a nice note, considering the expansion. So it's entirely possible for them to screw this up. :censored:

Hehe, same thoughts..? :D

Yes, and the time you beat me to them by. :o :p

[Crayola]

I don't know, but I hope booty island's still in! You can't be an island of booty.

[Kev9709]

What DNF was that screenshot from? The one that should have been released around 1998, or the one that should have been released around 2001? (Goes to dig up November 1997 issue of PC Gamer)

I also like the "Menage" :D :D

Renaming real hotels to make them sexual, yet retaining the basic sound of the original name- hilarious:D

Too bad GTA San Andreas beat them to the punch. :o

[DukeNukem_ags]

duke 3d. although it would be cool to hav some enemies from the arcades as well.