Slackware 11.0 is out!

[Zero]

Get it while its hot!

DVD version
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-install-dvd.torrent

CD version
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-install-d1.torrent
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-install-d2.torrent
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-install-d3.torrent

You don't need these if you don't intend to cusmize slackware, there the source discs.
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-source-d4.torrent
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-source-d5.torrent
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/slackware-11.0-source-d6.torrent

[tony]

Or dont bother with a torrent and just get it from one of the mirrors here:
http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml

[Mountain Man]

Slackware has always been a quality distro. Not alot of bells and whistles, but the "It just works" philosophy is in full display. I use Gentoo these days, but my first "serious" distro was Slackware 8.

[Kevin Wolff]

Haha, they dropped Gnome and the numbers of discs increases? Oh Patrick, we hardly knew ye.

And why is there a separate torrent for each CD image? They could throw all 3 into one, which would be more convenient.

[Hudson]

Because some people just like to have a Slack CD on their desk to look cool :cool:

[Zero]

Haha, they dropped Gnome and the numbers of discs increases? Oh Patrick, we hardly knew ye.

And why is there a separate torrent for each CD image? They could throw all 3 into one, which would be more convenient.

Actully GNOME was dropped in Slackware 10.2 because Pat (and I totally agree with him) said that GNOME is getting too hard to build and maintain, there are too many dependencys and too many things that need to be patched. (I have tried to build GNOME on top of LFS and Pat isen't kidding its rather annoying)

The reason for the 3 cds is because now you have a choice

1) The base system
2) Base system + TCP/IP and other non X uitilitys
3) Everything

KDE is on CD 3 as is X.org and all the other X-Windows Mangers

Although I know people will disagree I find that KDE is alittle more useful then GNOME is, KIO is amazing, it allows 1 program to use anothers functions, like if you install KMPlayer and use Konqueror you will find that all movies are now embbeded inside konqueror as goes with anything xine or mplayer.

The 3 CD system is in preparion for KDE's new dependenceys HAL, DBUS and a bunch more, thats why pat broke up the cds has he did.

As for the torrents being seprate the older version of Bit Torrent you cant
choose what files you are downloading, if I wanted just the base system I woud have to download the whole thing. this goes with the priceibles that slackware was built on, stable, work on almost all hardware and relible, if I wanted to run slackware as som kinda server on a 486 then I will never be needing the KDE cd because I cant run it and I am wasting bandwidth now.

Slackware was never about convenence, it's about flexiblity, stableness and simpleity, the second you take three of those away someothing in slackware breaks. its been that way all along, its why it's one of the oldest distros, and its only maintained by one person! As I used to say.. keep it simple, keep it slackware

[mon2908]

Haha, they dropped Gnome and the numbers of discs increases? Oh Patrick, we hardly knew ye.

And why is there a separate torrent for each CD image? They could throw all 3 into one, which would be more convenient.


Why should they care about Gnome as long there are others who do it.

I think if you can concentrate on the quality of the os and others care about the quality of the desktop/GUI there could not be a better deal. If you really wish to use Gnome with Slackware look here.

http://www.droplinegnome.net/

There are some people who understand GUI's better and how to make a user friendly desktop. Others are better with their understanding of the shell and the kernel.

So if you wish to get everything from one hand you could also stay with MS. Fact is, that the label of the product does not say anything about the quality of it's components or the knowledge and wisdom of it's developers. And the more you have to care the higher is the risk to oversee something important that makes the rest of your work useless.

I think we could start now a flamewar about the best GUI for Linux here, (I think it would bring the same fun like the flamewars about the best os), but I think we can wait till Microsoft totally is out of business and disqualified itself with it's efforts in DRM (and if we really become bored to discuss other stuff). By the way would I get in trouble with myself, cause I use a mix out of KDE and Gnome and cannot even deny, that Fluxbox, xFace, Enlightenment, Afterstep and all the other GUI's offer features that make it worth to look twice before you make any decision, what to use. :)

Before you flame me because I miss to mention any other of the x window manager (window without s here). Look here and find out for yourself if you wish to work with another GUI. http://xwinman.org/

What actually do you get if you combine Gnome ( http://www.gnome.org/ ) or KDE ( http://www.kde.org/ ) with Metisse ( http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/ here the video http://insitu.lri.fr/~roussel/videos/metisse/metisse/metisse.mov ) and AIXGL/XGL/Compiz ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws&mode=related&search= )?

Please don't use xpde http://www.xpde.com/ in combination with AIXGL/XGL/Compiz and Metisse. :D I already know what you get.

[Kevin Wolff]

Both of you seem to miss my point...he deleted Gnome (very large), and now there's *more* CDs? What the hell did he add?

Slackware was never about convenence, it's about flexiblity, stableness and simpleity, the second you take three of those away someothing in slackware breaks.
So even downloading it has to be less than optimally convenient? :D

[mon2908]

Okay, I must admit I totally missed the point,

maybe you better look here then.

http://www.slackware.com/announce/changes11.0.php

[rg3]

Both of you seem to miss my point...he deleted Gnome (very large), and now there's *more* CDs? What the hell did he add?

So even downloading it has to be less than optimally convenient? :D
He didn't delete Gnome because it was very large. He added a good amount of new things that are easier to build and maintain than Gnome. If you are simply asking why it now takes more CDs with Gnome gone, the answer is because there's more stuff now, even with Gnome gone. Quite an easy answer.

About the torrent thing, there are many people for whom downloading a CD takes quite a lot of time. Many clients do not support choosing among the different files in a torrent, so it's best to keep 3 torrents and be done with it. People can selectively download any CD they like, and those who want the three CDs only have to click 3 times. How clicking 3 times is "inconvenient" is beyond my knowledge. Someone who wants to get the first CD and can't find an easy way to do it is going to tell you that downloading Slackware is not optimal at all. Many times you have to choose a way that doesn't fully satisfy anyone, that's life.

[Kevin Wolff]

He didn't delete Gnome because it was very large.
I know that.

If you are simply asking why it now takes more CDs with Gnome gone, the answer is because there's more stuff now, even with Gnome gone. Quite an easy answer.
That's quite a bit, more than the changelog suggests. Guess this is a "see for myself" situation. Now only if I had my PC here.... :o

About the torrent thing, there are many people for whom downloading a CD takes quite a lot of time. Many clients do not support choosing among the different files in a torrent, so it's best to keep 3 torrents and be done with it. People can selectively download any CD they like, and those who want the three CDs only have to click 3 times. How clicking 3 times is "inconvenient" is beyond my knowledge. Someone who wants to get the first CD and can't find an easy way to do it is going to tell you that downloading Slackware is not optimal at all. Many times you have to choose a way that doesn't fully satisfy anyone, that's life.
Fair enough.