The Weapon Thread

[Commando Nukem]

Hey Joe/George.

I was wondering, how much ammo (if the Geagle is still in DNF even!) does Dukes Eagle contain? Or if its easier, how much ammo did it carry per magazine in 2001? (Im assuming you had reloads at that point.)

Mostly curious since in time to kill his desert eagle had the insane magzine of 20, and im currently working on a Desert Eagle in my own duke3d TC, trying to replicate the DNF version of the weapon basically.

[hiob]

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23385

[Echo Black]

Belt-fed Desert Eagle: Duke's favorite :D

[Commando Nukem]

I guess the point was missed that im not making a weapon request right? Im just asking a question about a weapon in the game, its not really related to that thread, well I mean it could be, but its not specific to that thread.

[Phayzon]

Belt-fed Desrt Eagle: Duke's favorite :D

Must. Have. :insomnia:

[Amakou]

I guess the point was missed that im not making a weapon request right? Im just asking a question about a weapon in the game, its not really related to that thread, well I mean it could be, but its not specific to that thread.

The Weapon Thread.

Where does that say requests? It's just talking about the arsenal.

As for capacity 7|35 or infinite.

~Amakou~

[Blackno3]

Wow the big Weapon Thread merger by the Joe: Just Put all the Weapons discussions in to one big thread. DUDE THAT WAS JUST WAY AWSONE DUDE!!!! Just bury everyone's opinions and there heartfelt input into one big Weapon’s thread.

You guys just love your fans I can tell!!! Rock on Joe!!! You’re the man!!!

[Amakou]

Wow the big Weapon Thread merger by the Joe: Just Put all the Weapons discussions in to one big thread. DUDE THAT WAS JUST WAY AWSONE DUDE!!!! Just bury everyone's opinions and there heartfelt input into one big Weapon’s thread.

You guys just love your fans I can tell!!! Rock on Joe!!! You’re the man!!!

It's called "Common Sense", clearly something your small mind can't wrap around. "Heart-felt opinions"? Are you even listening to yourself? Do the world a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool, so that future generations may become less stupid.

~Amakou~

[Echo Black]

Amakou, deep down he's saying what we're too uncaring to say. :( Not about this specific subject, since merging threads is really...Minor.

Gotta love seeing people fighting the power :D

Anyways, have we ever been told if there will be arcade reloading a la Half-Life 2, or will it be a single bullet count a la DN3D/Prey?

[Joementum]

Anyways, have we ever been told if there will be arcade reloading a la Half-Life 2, or will it be a single bullet count a la DN3D/Prey?

Reloading your weapon will be finished WID. Stop being so impatient. ;). :doh:.

[Trambuan]

Howabout adding this weapon to the game?

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/407/intrudergunqf2.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6632/theintruderta9.jpg

[Denz]

The man on that pic has the face of a woman. ?:confused: :o

[Kalki]

The man on that pic has the face of a woman. ?:confused: :o

Looks like Vasquez from Aliens. :censored:

[DukeNukem_ags]

i dont know if its already been decided upon, but i think there should be a sniper rifle in dnf. also, i think plasma grenades would be cool. and can grenades have a seperate key from weapons (like max payne 2, but not the first max payne). what about a knife/sword for close combat? just a thought. oh, and all the weapons from the original of course.

[moriss]

what about a knife/sword for close combat?

huh, what? thou hast just denied the mighty boot! burn the heretic! purge the unclean!

..err no, i don't think there's need for melee weapons except limbs, is there?

aside from everything mentioned; where is the flamethrower? i'm sure crisply grilled octabrains make up a nice snack.

[Micki!]

aside from everything mentioned; where is the flamethrower? i'm sure crisply grilled octabrains make up a nice snack.

Indeed, a flamethrower would rock... but i doubt it's in...
Gotta love the flamethrower from RTCW though :cool:

PS
It seems you're new here, welcome to our forums..!
Enjoy your stay... :)

[DukeNukem_ags]

ok good point. but i think the weapons should hav their own melee attack.

flamethrower! of course! that would be awesome!

boy, i hope this game has everything! :P

[comegetsome298]

Ok, since all Duke 3D weapons are available, how about some TTK weapons?
TTK is one of the best Duke Nukem games in my idea, and had some really cool weapons. The Energy Weapon, for example.
I'd love to see that included!

[Kev9709]

....boy, i hope this game has everything! :P


They've certainly had time to implement it all:D

[Trambuan]

Howabout using The Gast?, WW1 German Twin Barrel Ripper Gun.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7459/gastoe7.jpg

[Micki!]

Nahh, 3 is better :)

[DukeNukem_ags]

energy weapon? you wanna jog my memory here?

[comegetsome298]

You mean you've never played Duke Nukem: Time to Kill?
Go see it right here and you'll see the energy weapon.

[Nadtdf]

My Suggestions:
Mighty Boot (Idea: press both weapon buttons at the same time and get a knife kicked in the enemy)
Knife
Desert Eagle with night vision scope, laser sight, and silencer(Huge gun!)
Vintage 12-Gauge double barrel (to get a sawed off: combine with knife)
Molotov Cocktail
M16A2 Rifle w/ or w/o Grenade launcher
Devastator
Ripper Chaingun
RPG-7
AK-47
Pipebomb
Laser Tripmine
Freezer
Shrinker
Expander

[DavoX]

My Suggestions:
Mighty Boot (Idea: press both weapon buttons at the same time and get a knife kicked in the enemy)
Knife
Desert Eagle with night vision scope, laser sight, and silencer(Huge gun!)
Vintage 12-Gauge double barrel (to get a sawed off: combine with knife)
Molotov Cocktail
M16A2 Rifle w/ or w/o Grenade launcher
Devastator
Ripper Chaingun
RPG-7
AK-47
Pipebomb
Laser Tripmine
Freezer
Shrinker
Expander
I'm sorry but you can't saw off a shotgun with a knife. Also it doesn't fit duke's style.

Don't get me wrong here, i love double barrelled shotguns. The one in Blood 2 was incredible in my opinion.

[McFly]

I'd really like sticky remote charges like in FEAR. You could throw them on walls and objects etc...AND also on enemies so that you could detonate and explode them while they are running :D.

Oh and I think nobody yet talked about a chainsaw heh. We need close combat weapons too and I think this would rock.

Also I'm thinking of another one but I don't know how it is called in English...that's a weapon from Painkiller that lets you shoot big wooden parts at enemies and pierce 'em with it and make em stick to walls...sorry I cannot find ood english words to describe that gun lol. But it would totally and definitely rock.

[DukeNukem_ags]

You mean you've never played Duke Nukem: Time to Kill?
Go see it right here and you'll see the energy weapon.

i have played it - i have beaten it. but i dont know where the disc is... :(

speaking of time to kill, i wanna see alot of features from that game return. but this isnt the right thread for that...

[DukeNukem_ags]

Oh and I think nobody yet talked about a chainsaw heh. We need close combat weapons too and I think this would rock.


uh... i dont think chainsaw would fit duke (although they had it on their list in 2001). maybe you could find it as an item that can only be used for that round...

here's my list:

Mighty Boot

Knife

Desert Eagle (w/o flashlight)

Shotgun

Chaingun Cannon

RPG

Pipe Bomb/Plasma Grenade (that sticks to EVERYTHING)?/Other Grenade-Types

Shrinker/Expander

Devastator

Laser Tripbombs

Freezethrower/Flamethrower

Sniper Rifle (or railgun)

futuristic m16/battle rifle (w/scope)

and maybe some other weapons which have slipped my mind

*note: none of these need flashlight like ppl say - night vision goggles will work just fine

[Amakou]

Also I'm thinking of another one but I don't know how it is called in English...that's a weapon from Painkiller that lets you shoot big wooden parts at enemies and pierce 'em with it and make em stick to walls...sorry I cannot find ood english words to describe that gun lol. But it would totally and definitely rock.

Stake-gun.

~Amakou~

[DukeNukem_ags]

Stake-gun.

~Amakou~

yes but i dont think it fits duke...

[Amakou]

yes but i dont think it fits duke...

Meh, never said it did, I was just telling him what it was called.

I would like to see SOME kind of weapon that sticks enemies to walls though...those are always entertaining...

~Amakou~

[Dead Meat]

I don't know if this was mentioned...but it'll be cool to have a weapon that fires protozoid slimmers!

[Micki!]

About the earlier mention of Chainsaws...
That has been confirmed to not be in the game... It was in in 2001, but it's not now...

And sticky bombs are fun i admit, but they already confirmed Pipebombs, so i doubt that there'll be 2 variants of remote explosives...

[McFly]

I'd love to see an enemy running to me with a sticky bomb on him and exlpoding him once he's like 2 meters from me lol.

About the stake gun...of course that one won't fit Duke's style. But i'm thinking maybe something like that but more futuristic etc... like an auto-crossbow or something that could stick enemies to walls so that you can then do whatever you want with them (being still alive and trying to escape).
Or it could be like the HL2 crossbow but would fire 5 (arrows? do you say it like that as well for things crossbows launch in English lol ?) at once or even something else.

[Dead Meat]

Speaking of weapons...what do you think Duke should say when picking them up?

An example: you find a Minigun and Duke says: "It's payback time!"

[Mr.Sociopath]

Speaking of weapons...what do you think Duke should say when picking them up?

An example: you find a Minigun and Duke says: "It's payback time!"

"yeah" .."come to the king baby".. "let's rock".."come get some".."those aliens are sure gonna pay for shooting up my ride " ;)


also, I thought about a list of weapons:

army knife
fire axe
butcher knife
butcher knife with blood on it..
kitchen knife
kitchen knife with butter on it..
kitchen knife with peanut butter on it..
a spoon and fork..
butcher knife with mustard on it..
army knife with rasberry jam on it..
katana..
katana with butter on it..
fire axe with fire on it..
cardboard tube..(as in penny arcade)
quarterstaff made out of broom stick..
neon light tube..
toaster(swing with the cord)
Tv..
pike axe..
a chair..
and others I didn't name..(basically stuff we find)


as for ranged weapons.. the usual army weapons + a bow + catapult + shrinker + freezer + netgun + fangun + nukegun + alien weapons.. on the form of
organic weapons, and technological weapons.. it can shoot toxic goo..reflective plasma stuff..lasers..explosive beam..and a laser beam like in star trek.. and a sling shot :p

[comegetsome298]

Mr.Sociopath, are you trying to quote Duke from Duke3D?

If so, some of them are wrong.
Its "hail to the king baby" not "come to the king"
And its "Damn! Those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride!" and not "those aliens are sure gonna pay for shooting up my ride "

[Mr.Sociopath]

Mr.Sociopath, are you trying to quote Duke from Duke3D?

If so, some of them are wrong.
Its "hail to the king baby" not "come to the king"
And its "Damn! Those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride!" and not "those aliens are sure gonna pay for shooting up my ride "

yeah, sorry for the mistakes.. I'm not that much a fan boy ;)

[Micki!]

Speaking of weapons...what do you think Duke should say when picking them up?

An example: you find a Minigun and Duke says: "It's payback time!"

Indeed, Predator is still needed to be spoofed :D

[Kalki]

They were inspired by predator in Duke3d. The fat(assault) commander's whispered "Suck it down... hehehehe" mimicked taunts is something the Predator does. And the Episode 1 end-cutscene battlelord asking "Who the hell are you?" also reminds one of the Arnie-predator exchange "What the hell are you?" towards the end of the movie.

[Micki!]

They were inspired by predator in Duke3d. The fat(assault) commander's whispered "Suck it down... hehehehe" mimicked taunts is something the Predator does. And the Episode 1 end-cutscene battlelord asking "Who the hell are you?" also reminds one of the Arnie-predator exchange "What the hell are you?" towards the end of the movie.

Not sure if those were exactly meant to be spoofs though...

But either way, a more "exact" spoof, would fit well with the minigun and that quote... It would resemble that one scene from the movie, especially if it's in some nature-ish environment..! :D

[Imperius]

I'm afraid I'm in the tiny majority when I wish that there are no sniper weapons at all.* Those things always (almost, anyway) end up in making the game like "I'll just shoot those dudes from a distance so I won't die".. And in my personal opinion Duke's weapons should be more short to medium range *thinking* With lots of explosives, of course.

Just my two cents in the minority. :D


* though the pistol with a small scope (was it 2x ?) in Halo 1 was nice :)

[DukeNukem_ags]

Meh, never said it did, I was just telling him what it was called.

I would like to see SOME kind of weapon that sticks enemies to walls though...those are always entertaining...

~Amakou~

oh, yah, i know. sorry that it seemed directed to you. i just quoted yours cuz it was the most recent of the two.

yah, it would be cool to stick enemies to walls.

[DukeNukem_ags]

I'd love to see an enemy running to me with a sticky bomb on him and exlpoding him once he's like 2 meters from me lol.

About the stake gun...of course that one won't fit Duke's style. But i'm thinking maybe something like that but more futuristic etc... like an auto-crossbow or something that could stick enemies to walls so that you can then do whatever you want with them (being still alive and trying to escape).
Or it could be like the HL2 crossbow but would fire 5 (arrows? do you say it like that as well for things crossbows launch in English lol ?) at once or even something else.

crossbows fire bolts

[DukeNukem_ags]

I'm afraid I'm in the tiny majority when I wish that there are no sniper weapons at all.* Those things always (almost, anyway) end up in making the game like "I'll just shoot those dudes from a distance so I won't die".. And in my personal opinion Duke's weapons should be more short to medium range *thinking* With lots of explosives, of course.

Just my two cents in the minority. :D


* though the pistol with a small scope (was it 2x ?) in Halo 1 was nice :)

i see where youre coming from, but they dont need a sniper on every round, and i think it would be really hard to kill a battlelord with a sniper. but snipers are lots of fun and i think should be included - my two cents.

[DukeNukem_ags]

"yeah" .."come to the king baby".. "let's rock".."come get some".."those aliens are sure gonna pay for shooting up my ride " ;)


also, I thought about a list of weapons:

army knife
fire axe
butcher knife
butcher knife with blood on it..
kitchen knife
kitchen knife with butter on it..
kitchen knife with peanut butter on it..
a spoon and fork..
butcher knife with mustard on it..
army knife with rasberry jam on it..
katana..
katana with butter on it..
fire axe with fire on it..
cardboard tube..(as in penny arcade)
quarterstaff made out of broom stick..
neon light tube..
toaster(swing with the cord)
Tv..
pike axe..
a chair..
and others I didn't name..(basically stuff we find)


as for ranged weapons.. the usual army weapons + a bow + catapult + shrinker + freezer + netgun + fangun + nukegun + alien weapons.. on the form of
organic weapons, and technological weapons.. it can shoot toxic goo..reflective plasma stuff..lasers..explosive beam..and a laser beam like in star trek.. and a sling shot :p

no offense, but i think some items on that list are a little wild. fire axe? and whats w/ knife w/ butter, knife w/ peanut butter, knife w/ blood?

tv? yes. chair? yes. toaster? yes. knife? yes. but the rest, please no.

[McFly]

What about being allowed to call for airstrike ? (of course I mean both bombs and napalm :))

[Rider]

How about.... the fireball gun from ROTT?

That about fits duke's style :)

[McFly]

Oh and by the way I think a gravity gun that allows you to carry and throw some enemies would be great.

[Kalki]

^ Duke's hands and ragdoll octabrain.

[Dead Meat]

A weapon that melts enemies into a puddle of blood.

[Dead Meat]

Also, most weapons should have alternate fire modes. Some weapons should have 2-3 or more alternate modes.

Example 1: a grenade launcher with several grenade types.
Example 2: a rocket launcher...it fires one rocket in normal mode, it fires 3-4 rockets in alternate mode (like in UT)
Example 3: a nuke launcher...it fires a small nuke that destroys a small building (normal mode), it fires a medium nuke that destroys 2-3 buildings (alternate mode), it fires a large nuke that destroys an entire city block (second alternate mode)!

[Revenant]

Does anyone know if either of these are making it into DNF?





I apologize if this has been asked, tried running a search and came up with squat.

[crunchy superman]

Trip mines & pipe bombs are in, so they say.

[peoplessi]

Both are my personal favourites ;)

[Mr.Sociopath]

Duke will even be able to put pipe bombs in a pigcop's sandwich to make it explode in blood guts and laughs.. not confirmed are pipe bombs shoved in asses..

[ultra tree 85!]

Yes, the trip bombs and pipe bombs are going to return, but the threads that they were confirmed in are probably erased now. The shrinker, freezer, shotgun, and ripper chaingun are also all going to be in DNF, so many of the original weapons will actually be back! :)

[Telee]

Yes, the trip bombs and pipe bombs are going to return, but the threads that they were confirmed in are probably erased now. The shrinker, freezer, shotgun, and ripper chaingun are also all going to be in DNF, so many of the original weapons will actually be back! :)

Not to mention that they showed the RPG in the 2001 trailer :)

But what about expander and devastators? :(

[infowars]

Here's an idea;

In DNF, Duke could find and get all of Lo Wang's weapons (shadow warrior:love: )?? How cool would that be! Auto-shotgun, sticky bombs, Mini-Nuke...etc..:D

[Dead Meat]

Speaking of Lo Wang...it'll be cool if 3DR make Shadow Warrior 2 some day...

[peoplessi]

Speaking of Lo Wang...it'll be cool if 3DR make Shadow Warrior 2 some day...

Would be cool, but I do not think that 3D Realms will use that IP again. Shadow Warrior gained a lot of un-needed attention regarding racism and such. I never saw it that way.

[Revenant]

Thanks all for the replies. Trip Mines and sticky bombs were some of the funnest fights I've ever had when deathmatching.

/cheers

[DavoX]

There are NOT sticky bombs in DNF or DN3D. Shadow warrior has the sticky bombs. Unless you think the pipebombs are sticky somehow :P

[Malgon]

^Hehehe! :D

[mr. pinky demon]

I found the trip mines to be worthless, only good in multiplayer, and that i hope the pipe bomb could be used to do something different like tie a pipe bomb to a rope and throw it further distance than a normal throw.

[DavoX]

I found the trip mines to be worthless, only good in multiplayer, and that i hope the pipe bomb could be used to do something different like tie a pipe bomb to a rope and throw it further distance than a normal throw.
What? you throw a pipe bomb further with a rope?........

[mr. pinky demon]

well think useing common sense davox. When you throw a object, it goes that distant. But if you put that object onto a device that can build up momentum and and enough force will launch it further than its original way.

[Dead Meat]

I think 3DR should be creative when it comes to explosives...would be cool to see new kinds of bombs - maybe some "flying bombs" - you throw it in the air and then it starts locking onto targets - sort of like "search and destoy". Or maybe some bouncing mines, jumping around and looking for a target :)
Sure, pipe bombs are cool, but there should be some other types as well.

[Puffie40]

Unless you think the pipebombs are sticky somehow

OOO! OOO! I KNOW! Pipe bombs and duct-tape!!!:D :D :D

[Telee]

Here's some weapons I would love to have:

1.) Quad-Barrel Shotgun... just like the one from Duke Nukem Advance.
2.) Vaporizer... shoot them with it, and the screen flashes white, and when it clears up all the monsters are gone.
3.) Gold Desert Eagle... would be awesome to blow a piggy's brains out with this puppy!

[Revenant]

Or 3drealms could get creative and let you stick a pipe bomb in a Pig Cops skull for a Blood Screen (kinda like a smoke screen but messier)!

[Revenant]

What about a "Net Gun". When shot, it expands into a tight net, not too large of one, maybe the size of a torso. Then make it interesting; if shot in the leg with the weapon pointed say, downward, your leg is pinned to the ground for let's say 3 seconds. You wouldn't experience damage as the ground is absorbing much of the shock but you are pinned for a short time. Now let's say you get shot in the chest with no walls nearby, it would knock you back maybe 2 feet and wrap around your body, causing damage.

If a person gets shot in the arm, one of two things: If close enough to a wall it would pin that arm to it making it impossible to fire your weapon and pinning you for a short duration (considering it were say a 2 handed weapon). If no where near a wall, then it would just "distract" your shot and damage the player when it wraps around your hand.

The durations it holds a person to a nearby wall, floor, ceiling (why not) is just an example.

[Betelgeuse]

What about a "Net Gun". When shot, it expands into a tight net, not too large of one, maybe the size of a torso. Then make it interesting; if shot in the leg with the weapon pointed say, downward, your leg is pinned to the ground for let's say 3 seconds. You wouldn't experience damage as the ground is absorbing much of the shock but you are pinned for a short time. Now let's say you get shot in the chest with no walls nearby, it would knock you back maybe 2 feet and wrap around your body, causing damage.

If a person gets shot in the arm, one of two things: If close enough to a wall it would pin that arm to it' making it impossible to fire your weapon and pinning you for a short duration (considering it were say a 2 handed weapon). If no where near a wall, then it would just "distract" your shot and damage the player when it wraps around your hand.

The durations it holds a person to a nearby wall, floor, ceiling (why not) is just an example.


yeah that sounds cool, as long as it's something that get's shot at me not so often, it'd be cool if an animation was chucked in with that, because your stuck (say if you got shot in the leg with it) and you look down at your leg and you see one of dukes hands reach for the net so he can rip it off, or he just lifts/kicks his leg up erraticaly to free him self and keep shooting.


i was thinking maybe at some stage of the game duke can get a lasso (spelling?), so you could do that move Scorpian does on mortal Kombat... duke will lasso a pigcop and when the lasso is wrapped around the pigcop duke can say "GET OVER HERE!!!" and pull him towards himself only to stick out is boot which will then force the pigs head to rip completely off, once in contact with the almighty boot.

or instead of lassoo it could be a whale spearing gun.

[Dead Meat]

What about a "Net Gun". When shot, it expands into a tight net, not too large of one, maybe the size of a torso. Then make it interesting; if shot in the leg with the weapon pointed say, downward, your leg is pinned to the ground for let's say 3 seconds. You wouldn't experience damage as the ground is absorbing much of the shock but you are pinned for a short time. Now let's say you get shot in the chest with no walls nearby, it would knock you back maybe 2 feet and wrap around your body, causing damage.

If a person gets shot in the arm, one of two things: If close enough to a wall it would pin that arm to it making it impossible to fire your weapon and pinning you for a short duration (considering it were say a 2 handed weapon). If no where near a wall, then it would just "distract" your shot and damage the player when it wraps around your hand.

The durations it holds a person to a nearby wall, floor, ceiling (why not) is just an example.

yeah that sounds cool, as long as it's something that get's shot at me not so often, it'd be cool if an animation was chucked in with that, because your stuck (say if you got shot in the leg with it) and you look down at your leg and you see one of dukes hands reach for the net so he can rip it off, or he just lifts/kicks his leg up erraticaly to free him self and keep shooting.


i was thinking maybe at some stage of the game duke can get a lasso (spelling?), so you could do that move Scorpian does on mortal Kombat... duke will lasso a pigcop and when the lasso is wrapped around the pigcop duke can say "GET OVER HERE!!!" and pull him towards himself only to stick out is boot which will then force the pigs head to rip completely off, once in contact with the almighty boot.

or instead of lassoo it could be a whale spearing gun.

Very good ideas! :cool:

[The Frederick]

What really excited me was, I think I remember George saying something about throwables being handled Halo-style. Or at least, better than most FPS.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

What is 'Halo-style'?

[wayskobfssae]

Halo-style = grenade selection being independent of guns. So no matter what weapons you have chosen, you always have single-click access to tossing a grenade.

[peoplessi]

Yes, that is confirmed.

[Micki!]

Halo-style = grenade selection being independent of guns. So no matter what weapons you have chosen, you always have single-click access to tossing a grenade.

Yeah, it's been confirmed, but it's also selectable (the pipebombs)

chose to throw a pipeboms, that you blow up whenever you want (remote)
And quick-throw, for a pipebombs that quickly explode automaticly shortly after the throw...

At least that's how George described them... I personally like the idea... (As an example, Prey had it exactly like this as well, worked great)

[Dead Meat]

Would be cool to have some kind of "grabber", with which you can grab some enemies and toss them around like rag dolls:

Primary fire - you grab an enemy.
Secondary fire - you fire him at a solid wall to watch him smash! or throw him 100 yards away! Maybe you can throw him from a high building only to see him splat on the ground!

[peoplessi]

Would be cool to have some kind of "grabber", with which you can grab some enemies and toss them around like rag dolls:

Primary fire - you grab an enemy.
Secondary fire - you fire him at a solid wall to watch him smash! or throw him 100 yards away! Maybe you can throw him from a high building only to see him splat on the ground!

Duke Nukem doesn't need weapons to do that ;)

[LeadBullet]

I found the trip mines to be worthless, only good in multiplayer

They kicked ass in multiplayer. I used to play Duke3D over the net all the time and the most hilarious situations were when you were following someone through a vent, and there was a part in the vent that dropped straight down. You drop down the hole not knowing that the other person had actually just got done setting up a ton of them at the bottom. So you pretty much fall down a pipe only to be met with a bunch of alarms going off and instant death. :D

So no matter what weapons you have chosen, you always have single-click access to tossing a grenade.

If they do that I hope you can use the mighty foot to kick the grenade back at them. ;)

[mr. pinky demon]

I want to literally stick the gernade onto the enemy like in Gears of war.

[lookatme]

A minigun is unrealistic anyway! It is not meant to be used by one man. You can fix it on a helicopter and the like. Don't believe everything you see in films. ;)


http://www.childprogeny.com/opinions/minigun.jpg

o rly?

[lookatme]

A PANCOR JACKHAMMER

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancor_Jackhammer
or a neostead 2000

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh08-e.htm
or a calico carbine

http://world.guns.ru/smg/calico960a.jpg

[Dead Meat]

A chainsaw is a must! :D

[SyntaxN]

A chainsaw is a must! :D
Shotgun with chainsaw? (Gears of War style)
The ultimate close combat weapon :D

[Dead Meat]

Shotgun with chainsaw? (Gears of War style)
The ultimate close combat weapon :D

Yeah, Gears Of War's chainsaw is exactly what I had in mind - with the blood splatter and everything, it's just awesome! :D

[Lt.Havoc]

Duke and a Chainsaw? I know there where screens of that back in 2001 all Army of Darkness style, but I doubt we see anything like that. A chainsaw isnt fitting to Duke. Minigun? Well, too Serious Sam style.

Well, I would like to see a mix od realistic yet futuristic weapons ala FEAR as as well as Alien guns and totally whacky weapons like the Shrinker/expander and Freezer. As much as I like guns in games, I hate to see DNF with weapons like M4 and AK-47. These weapons appear in any modern day game and I cant stand them anymore. In every danm CS clone the people run around with these things and I dont think that fits Duke.

DNFwill play in the future, so why not future weapons? I love FEAR for breaking with the M4/AK scheme, adding sci-fi style weapons that are still possible to build. Thats what I would like to see in DNF too.

Ok, we all know, Duke will use the Golden Eafle, but I think he should have some kind of 9mm at the beggining and later find the Golden Eagle, then its a powerful handgun and as I can tell, it will use the powerful .50 AE round.

So, here and idea for a 9mm handgun that is weak, but with high ammo capacity:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/105.jpg
The gun could have some sort of lasersight and all. I know, looks like a sci-fi Glock, but who cares as long as its looking fancy and kills the bad guys?

Also, I think Duke goes with the time and if he is still using his Moosberg, then it might look like this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Mossberg500Tactical.jpg
Yup, some Surefire lights for the dark corners and some shell holder.

The Jackhammer would be a cool weapon, but I would rather like to see auto shotguns like the USAS-12:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/usas-12.jpg

Or the new AA-12:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/AA-12.jpg

Still, we need somekind of SMG, noe Duke game is complete without some SMG. Ok, he didnt used that much SMGs, but it would fill the gab between the Pistol and the assault rifle. Here some ideas how such a future SMG could look like:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Federated_Arms_9mm_SMG.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Militech_Viper.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Militech_MMP-80.jpg

Just some ideas. As for the Assault Rifle, I think something with a grenadelauncher would be cool. Something like this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Brian_Rogers_-_M7A_Individual_Comba.jpg
Thats what I want to see. Could be they standart Rifle of the EDF or something.

Ok, after that, there is the Ripper MG. I hope it wont have 3 barrels, maybe just single barrelt but more powerful then the Assault Rilfe minus the grenade launcher.

For the Sniper Rifle, we need something big, maybe a Cal.50. It could look like this: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Colt-Mauser_Canon_M2X.jpg

While we are in the future, there could be also expirimental laser weapons, something with a seperate engery pack:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/Techtronica_HB-64CL.jpg

Or Railguns: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Weapons/rhiemg85.jpg

Well, the rest would be some alien weapons, the shrinker/expander, the freezer, pipeboms, RPG (maybe in a new look), laser trip mines etc.

I also hope there will be stationary weapons that you can use and maybe some more weapons we dont know about. Well, this is just what I think would be cool in DNF. At least I hope and wish that such weapons can be added later on via modding and that there are more then just 10 weapons in the game and only 10 weapon slots to fill.

[Dead Meat]

Out of these I think the M7A combat rifle will fit Duke the most. Laser weapons are a must, but not like Quake 2/3's railgun...maybe something like the laser carbine from Extraction Point will fit Duke more - it emits a non-stopping ray which literally obliterates enemies.

I feel that a minigun is a must, the one from Predator and T2 are made for Duke imo. Same for the chainsaw from Doom 3 or the one from Gears Of War.

But I think that most weapons should be futuristic ones, maybe some alien guns too. But they need to be innovative and practical. They should be fairly simple and not like the crazy weapons from Unreal 2.

Sound plays an important role here. I don't want the guns to feel as if they're underpowered - like in D3. Every bullet, rocket, whatever should sound like the coming of armageddon!

[DukeNukem_ags]

I think 3DR should be creative when it comes to explosives...would be cool to see new kinds of bombs - maybe some "flying bombs" - you throw it in the air and then it starts locking onto targets - sort of like "search and destoy". Or maybe some bouncing mines, jumping around and looking for a target :)
Sure, pipe bombs are cool, but there should be some other types as well.

now thats what im talking about! ive been meaning to mention something on these lines before but it appears to have slipped my mind. i liked that in area 51 it had some crazy bouncy grenade - pretty cool and original (from what i know). i hope duke can incorporate some crazy types of grenades.

[DukeNukem_ags]

Does anyone know if either of these are making it into DNF?





I apologize if this has been asked, tried running a search and came up with squat.

yea that will tend to happen when looking up dnf-related "stuff"

[DukeNukem_ags]

What about a "Net Gun". When shot, it expands into a tight net, not too large of one, maybe the size of a torso. Then make it interesting; if shot in the leg with the weapon pointed say, downward, your leg is pinned to the ground for let's say 3 seconds. You wouldn't experience damage as the ground is absorbing much of the shock but you are pinned for a short time. Now let's say you get shot in the chest with no walls nearby, it would knock you back maybe 2 feet and wrap around your body, causing damage.

If a person gets shot in the arm, one of two things: If close enough to a wall it would pin that arm to it making it impossible to fire your weapon and pinning you for a short duration (considering it were say a 2 handed weapon). If no where near a wall, then it would just "distract" your shot and damage the player when it wraps around your hand.

The durations it holds a person to a nearby wall, floor, ceiling (why not) is just an example.

you mean sorta like rott?

[DukeNukem_ags]

yeah that sounds cool, as long as it's something that get's shot at me not so often, it'd be cool if an animation was chucked in with that, because your stuck (say if you got shot in the leg with it) and you look down at your leg and you see one of dukes hands reach for the net so he can rip it off, or he just lifts/kicks his leg up erraticaly to free him self and keep shooting.

i think that the ammo limit at any one time for the "net gun" (if incorporated) should be just one so they cant keep doing it.

i was thinking maybe at some stage of the game duke can get a lasso (spelling?), so you could do that move Scorpian does on mortal Kombat... duke will lasso a pigcop and when the lasso is wrapped around the pigcop duke can say "GET OVER HERE!!!" and pull him towards himself only to stick out is boot which will then force the pigs head to rip completely off, once in contact with the almighty boot.

or instead of lassoo it could be a whale spearing gun.

hahaha, that would be pretty cool

[Amakou]

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/images/buttons/edit.gif is your friend...

~Amakou~

[DukeNukem_ags]

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/images/buttons/edit.gif is your friend...

~Amakou~

huh? :s

[Kalki]

He means you made 4 consecutive posts in the space of a half hour. You could have edited the original post and added the later ones to it.

[Micki!]

Way to go, is by using the "multiquote" function... it allows one to quote several messages in one post... simply select the desired posts you want to quote with multiquote, and use the normal quote key on the last post you're quoting, then you have them all..! ;)

[Kalki]

^ haha, so that's why he did it. :D

*Ahem* This is OT. So anyway, 'bout those weapons...

I re-propose the Laser Chainsaw!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Gazdakka/Caterkillar.gif

[Micki!]

I remember that one...
It's funny, the design reminds me of the Freezer from Duke3D... :o with the handles, and that lamb etc... :D

Do you remember which version for DNF this was meant to..? 1998 or 2001..?

[Dead Meat]

Laser chainsaw...this sounds wierd. :)

[Malgon]

^Could be good though. :)

[Kalki]

It was a concept for the 1998/Quake(2) version I believe.

Edit: Come to think of it, with the Freezer similarities, it could have been for Duke 3D... Anyone remember when Chuck Jones left?

[Denz]

Something like this but as a weapon.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iEP2nokEDdQ

[Kalki]

Nobody would believe it. It's better as an acid cannon that can do a longer range.

[Betelgeuse]

lol laser chainsaw, love it :)

[Revenant]

yeah that sounds cool, as long as it's something that get's shot at me not so often, it'd be cool if an animation was chucked in with that, because your stuck (say if you got shot in the leg with it) and you look down at your leg and you see one of dukes hands reach for the net so he can rip it off, or he just lifts/kicks his leg up erraticaly to free him self and keep shooting.


i was thinking maybe at some stage of the game duke can get a lasso (spelling?), so you could do that move Scorpian does on mortal Kombat... duke will lasso a pigcop and when the lasso is wrapped around the pigcop duke can say "GET OVER HERE!!!" and pull him towards himself only to stick out is boot which will then force the pigs head to rip completely off, once in contact with the almighty boot.

or instead of lassoo it could be a whale spearing gun.

I'd say have very limited ammo for this weapon (Net Gun) on the maps. Imagine how beneficial it would be to have this against a "twitch" player. Especially when playing Team Deathmatch, can you say sitting duck?

[DukeNukem_ags]

He means you made 4 consecutive posts in the space of a half hour. You could have edited the original post and added the later ones to it.

my apologies, i will try to correct this act from further occuring.

[rockmanekuzu8]

Well I can say the Desert Eagle Gold Version Magnum will definitely be in it. What others can we expect besides our original weapons, like new ones?

I wonder what new weapons they will have in this game, or even stuff like chairs trash cans etc, should be able to be interacted with. Then used to throw at enemies as weapons.
;)

[MakronMan]

Something like this but as a weapon.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iEP2nokEDdQ

holy shit that uses water :o :o its like the ultimate water pistol;) :p :D

[Dead Meat]

The condom launcher. :)

That would be a good weapon...

[MakronMan]

The condom launcher. :)

That would be a good weapon...

strawberry flavoured :insomnia: :mryuck: :mryuck: :mryuck:

[vesivillem]

guns in dnf should be like that you could always want them to use and they wouldn't get old never. Shotgun has to be stronger than it was in dn3d bcuz pigs die too slow when you kill them with it.

[corn wizard]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/navy-develops-8-megajoule-railgun-nukem-bows-down/


Railguns came out before DNF. :dopefish:

[Dead Meat]

Isn't Shadow Warrior the first game to feature a railgun?

[Denz]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/navy-develops-8-megajoule-railgun-nukem-bows-down/


Railguns came out before DNF. :dopefish:

Woha that is kick ass :eek:



I WANTEH THIS AS A PORTABLE IN DUKEH NUKEHM.

[MakronMan]

do u mean the image ripped from quake 4 or the actual navy 1?

in my free time i whipped this thing up, it drill into the enemy while using fluid from its enemies to fuel its engine, while the gas tank sends flames all around the enemy burning callories. originall intended for the experimental use of pigcop, to create a faster more agile pig,

[Amakou]

do u mean the image ripped from quake 4 or the actual navy 1?

in my free time i whipped this thing up, it drill into the enemy while using fluid from its enemies to fuel its engine, while the gas tank sends flames all around the enemy burning callories. originall intended for the experimental use of pigcop, to create a faster more agile pig,

Wait...it was supposed to be beneficial to the pigs?

~Amakou~

[MakronMan]

maybe i should write that it was modified to kill the pigcops rather than to help, by having the exhast face the other direction

[Dunedain]

It's great to see the weapons we love so much from Duke Nukem 3D are back in DNF! :) I'm looking forward to opening up with the classic 12 gauge pump shotgun and chaingun especially. :) Other favorite signature Duke weapons are laser trip mines and pipe bombs, you can make some really cool and clever traps with those. Good for both single-player and multi-player :) Apparently the rocket launcher is back, too, for when you want to fire up the heavy artillery. :)

[Trambuan]

Howabout the German WW2 'Samaka'?
http://i10.tinypic.com/3yhbqys.jpg

SaMaKa or "Salvenmaschinenkanonen", was a German 'Flak' Gun using multiple 7.92mm GPMG's for rapid fire purposes.

[Treeckcold57]

Devastator, gatling, and freezerthrower. But Devastator look definitely fun.

[Kalki]

Looks like akimbo gold DEs from the new teaseshot, right?

[Water12356]

Yes it did. mmmm twin .50 caliber rounds. <3

[hiob]

I demand this weapon:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/639/2202pd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MakronMan]

heheheh!!^^^

[Dead Meat]

I want a weapon so powerful, that it sends an enemy flying 10 meters away and smashing into a solid wall! Maybe a super shotgun. ;)

[vesivillem]

it would be cool if the pipe bombs pipe shards would fly and kill everoyne and cut them.

[DukeNukem_ags]

it would be cool if the pipe bombs pipe shards would fly and kill everoyne and cut them.

emo pipe bombs? :D

[vesivillem]

what is emo im not english or us

[peoplessi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

[DukeNukem_ags]

what is emo im not english or us

i dont know if that website mentioned it (didnt want to read it all), but they also cut themselves when they're depressed - usually on the wrists; thats what i was referring to.. they are also more likely to commit suicide because they are so "depressed". so, back to dnf!

oh, is there a larger picture of my avatar? i want to use it as a background if there is one that size; if not, any other size that is larger?

[vesivillem]

Some railgun or similar weapon would be great too. i wanna make some fckin bloody head shots!

[ace747]

something like that Turok 2 weapon taht sucks itself onto the enemies head and spews out brain substance and blood...awesome

[Betelgeuse]

I demand this weapon:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/639/2202pd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

lmao, the water plug in his butt looks so funny and obscene, the trigger seems awfully close to his nads too :D

[Malgon]

something like that Turok 2 weapon taht sucks itself onto the enemies head and spews out brain substance and blood...awesome

Cerebral Bore was the name. That weapon did rock hard. Very creative. :cool:

[german duke fan]

how about a weapon that moves enemies to big asses to kick. or that sucks enemies with their ass towards duke so that he can kick them harder than ever. and i´d like to have an asskick that smashes the enemies a few meters around :)

[vesivillem]

ot:ass kicking minigame would be awsome too... or ass shooting. bullet in the a$shole!

[GravitySwitch]

They should make a lazer gun to cur your enemies in half.

[Dead Meat]

Akimbo guns would rock. But not just 2 shotguns or 2 pistols or something like that - it would be awesome if Duke can carry different guns - such as an rpg in one hand and a freezer in the other...and so on. Call it 'random akimbo guns' if you want. :) :D

[Malgon]

^I don't know about the different weapons dual wielding option. I'd prefer that Duke, if he can, only DW the Desert Eagles just to keep it balanced and even a bit more realistic. Just my opinion. :)

[Kalki]

Last we heard, they're not doing akimbo weapons. Before that there were technical reasons for not doing it but now it's just a gameplay thing. They don't want it. The dual pistols in the screenshot might be an alt-fire mode specific to that weapon type - like UT.

[Malgon]

Yeah I remember in the official FAQ that it was kept out because of limitations. But is it still confirmed not to be in, or has 3DRealms stance changed on this matter?

[William Gee]

emo pipe bombs? :D

Heh Awsome. :D

[Dead Meat]

Akimbo guns would be a major plus for the game. I hope 3DR changed their minds on this. ;)

[MakronMan]

serious sam 2 originally was going to implement that feature of random weapons but in the end they didn't

but we still use it!! :)

[DukeNukem_ags]

Akimbo guns would be a major plus for the game. I hope 3DR changed their minds on this. ;)

no. maybe as a multiplayer option, but not single player. the only weapons you should be able to dual wield should be smaller weapons (as in halo 2).

how about a weapon that moves enemies to big asses to kick. or that sucks enemies with their ass towards duke so that he can kick them harder than ever. and i´d like to have an asskick that smashes the enemies a few meters around :)

far too korny and it would ruin the gameplay. as a cheat or mod would be ok though. i hope they bring back some features/characters (maybe cheats) from prey (which i finally started playing and it was AWESOME!!!), max payne, and shadow warrior.

[Rollcage11213]

shotgun rounds that explode would be awsome. like in duke nukem 64.
the devastor, a flame thrower would be awsome, the chaingun definetly and i bit more powerfull, a faster throwung RPG, and the shrinker and expander.

[Dead Meat]

Yeah, I feel that a flamethrower is a must. Too bad most games don't feature it.

[abritt]

Plasma cannon from Duke Nukem 64

[Little Conqueror]

Yeah I remember in the official FAQ that it was kept out because of limitations. But is it still confirmed not to be in, or has 3DRealms stance changed on this matter?

Their stance could have changed. Seeing as Duke is holding two Deagles, I'm inclined to believe it, but first we need context.

That'll probably be the only weapon he holds akimbo, because everything else needs two or more hands to hold.

[Denz]

Just like his love tool.








:doh: :o

[Mr. Pink]

Well, it's better than having one for each hand.

Bada-bing!

[roryok]

will someone explain the japanese woman and children weapon I keep hearing so much about?

[Malgon]

^Doesn't sound good! :D

[DragonflyWolfTen]

Just been running around in another game (R6V), and thought bout Duke and how he is gana carry his weapons around. I would really like to see him have his duel eagles holstered on his hips. this would change his get up a bit but i think it would be a awwsum change. Also mabey he could sling a rifle over his side and have it at the ready. I know alot of you would still want to carry alot of guns and this would look silly with 8 guns wrapped around Duke but thats not what iam thinking. If we can still carry 8 or 9 guns it could just show the last rifle that you use while the others are hidden in the invetory. but the main thing is I want to see the duel eagles holstered on his legs. so if this is the case what coulor should the holsters be? brown to match his ammo belts or black? what do you reckon?

[Denz]

Japanese woman will be used either as a club, or as a throwing type of weapon. Children will be used as a something like a grenade or something explosive. The woman can also be used as a distraction tool instead of the holoduke.




:o








The women will have a special random when-you-do-nothing animation. \o/

[Betelgeuse]

i suppose they could have the holster option still? i remember it being in D3D i never used it though i was too busy shooting stuff. maybe it would be more appropriate in in DNF because it's more interactive and the sort, I'm guessing he just lowers his weapon when your going to use stuff, but they could keep the holster option just as an extra choice, and have a cool animation for it.
as for holster styles i reckon something like...

http://www.netlinkenterprises.com/prodimages/60363.jpg

your basic right leg holster, (except WAY better looking, this one looks kind of dodge)

http://www.gungarage.com/LEFTLEGHOLSTERpvc-h168et-m.jpg

A left leg holster (if akimbo pistols are in )

http://www.unitedmaskandparty.com/Theme_Party_Supplies/images/Copy_of_gunholster_garter.JPG

And also if bomb shell is still in the game... :D

http://www.eglobe1.com/word/wp-content/images/photos/gun-holster.jpg

or there's the alternative gun holster method for bombshell

[KleyMEN]

A left leg holster (if akimbo pistols are in )

http://www.unitedmaskandparty.com/Theme_Party_Supplies/images/Copy_of_gunholster_garter.JPG

well that's duke's style :D

[Alexander]

If the fireflower is not the right weapon for duke, I don't know what is ;)
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[colmtourque]

standards- pistolas, machine gun, missile launcher and a chain gun be honest all these guns really are the same in all games

then the great ideas from so many different games grenade launchers (with the bouncing grenades), laser trip, shrink and freeze ray, sticky bombs, sniper rifle (sorry just love it), remote control bomb, flame thrower,

But I've always loved the idea of being able to dual wield them all at some point or another, or at least the reasonable ones.

[Little Conqueror]

If dual-wielding is indeed back in the game, a part of me wants to see Duke holding akimbo chainguns a la Wolf3D. But only a part of me.

[Joe Siegler]

Their stance could have changed. Seeing as Duke is holding two Deagles, I'm inclined to believe it, but first we need context.

What makes you think he's actually holding both of them? ;) You can't actually see that from the shot.

[Little Conqueror]

What makes you think he's actually holding both of them? ;) You can't actually see that from the shot.

That's a very good point. Anything we draw from that shot isn't conclusive. Anything we say is merely either speculation or wishful thinking.

[colmtourque]

What makes you think he's actually holding both of them? ;) You can't actually see that from the shot.


Very very cruel, but let see ones in right hand, ones in left, hands look the same have the same glove, his stance makes sense for it.

[Dead Meat]

What makes you think he's actually holding both of them? ;) You can't actually see that from the shot.

Huh??

[Alexander]

Very very cruel, but let see ones in right hand, ones in left, hands look the same have the same glove, his stance makes sense for it.

you're right. same hands, same gloves. the gloves on his right hand however are hard to see. So dark, it fades into the dark background.
But there must be a glove, otherwise his fingers would become surprisingly short while holding a gun, and from that perspective you must see his knockles.

[KleyMEN]

you're right. same hands, same gloves. the gloves on his right hand however are hard to see. So dark, it fades into the dark background.
But there must be a glove, otherwise his fingers would become surprisingly short while holding a gun, and from that perspective you must see his knockles.

Maybe it's not duke. Maybe it's a fan of duke who just looks like him, wore the same clothes that duke wore (because he adores him) and is threatening him to sign his photo taken with him :o

[JobivanHiob]

yes, Joe is right, the left Deagle is in a wirred position. It looks to me like the left Deagle is holded by a nother character. Maybe the Duke we see in the pic is the holoduke and the real duke standing beside him on the left, holding the left Deagle. So the real duke holds in his right hand the deagle and like Joe indicates, duke has only a single weapon, no akimbo for you!

[Alexander]

Damn, this doesn't help. We need more pics!

[colmtourque]

yes, Joe is right, the left Deagle is in a wirred position. It looks to me like the left Deagle is holded by a nother character. Maybe the Duke we see in the pic is the holoduke and the real duke standing beside him on the left, holding the left Deagle. So the real duke holds in his right hand the deagle and like Joe indicates, duke has only a single weapon, no akimbo for you!


Look so long as I have the illusion of akimbo I'm gonna hold onto it...;)
Actually his stance does look reasonable. If he's standing sideways and got one gun pulled back. And if you look at the enahced pics it does look like the guns is being held in the other hand with similar gloves, though yeah it is kinda an odd position...

[Halcyon]

yes, Joe is right, the left Deagle is in a wirred position. [...] and like Joe indicates, duke has only a single weapon, no akimbo for you!Or maybe, just maybe, Joe is teasing us all a little. ;)

[Micki!]

Or maybe it's bombshell :o

[Little Conqueror]

yes, Joe is right, the left Deagle is in a wirred position. It looks to me like the left Deagle is holded by a nother character. Maybe the Duke we see in the pic is the holoduke and the real duke standing beside him on the left, holding the left Deagle. So the real duke holds in his right hand the deagle and like Joe indicates, duke has only a single weapon, no akimbo for you!

The only reason it looks that way is because only Duke's left hand has a glove on it, while his right does not (or if it does, it's obscured by the Deagle).

Joe didn't say that akimbo's out. He was just, in his own way, urging us not to come to conclusions on our own based on one tiny screenshot.

Now, contrary to that ;) , I'm 99% sure that Duke is holding both Deagles, because it looks that way, though it could be another person and we shouldn't rule that out.

[Kalki]

What makes you think he's actually holding both of them? ;) You can't actually see that from the shot.

Well I can. I wear glasses that are running the latest version of Duke's Shades Operating System. :cool:

[DragonflyWolfTen]

I just want the same old weapons but revamped. Also I want BLUE flash fire from the duel golden eagles. This would fit nicely when you are firing explosive tipped bullets, and add a sci fi like effect.

[Dead Meat]

I wouldn't mind playing with a gravity gun in DNF. :D

[Duke 64]

Here's weapon I'd like to see (one not so commonly seen in FPS games): The Spreader. Anybody remember Contra? How come the 2D scrollers get these badass weapons that can take anything to oblivion, while modern FPS's get the usaul shotguns, machine guns, rockets, blah blah blah it's so redundant. I think some kinda weapon that could hit multiple targets would be cool, or one where you control where the shots go (like in Gunstar Heroes). And how about a reflective shot sniper rifle? I dunno try to make it alittle more unique than the same ones we keep seeing.

But, as for a Duke esque sorta weapon, it should be some kinda heat wave that after awhile makes Duke melt into a puddle or fry into a skeleton or something. Anything that fits the whole "inflating and blowing up" or freezing to ice and being shattered" kinda deal that we see in Duke 3D. I hope you guys are bringing back the Shrink Ray, in Duke 3D you don't even get to see the giant dukes foot smash right over you. In DNF I want it to feel like Jurassic Park where you see this big massive boot come and end your existence. It would just make people "jump" haha.

Oh, and I have one request 3DRealms: Please bring back the SMG's from Duke Nukem 64- they were much more badass and powerful than the Ripper from Duke 3D, and if not, please make the Ripper even more badass.

That is all ;)

[trackit]

Predator had the coolest Minigun ever... :cool:
http://www.alien-memorial.com/pred_zone/p1/minigun.jpg

yeah, predator minigan was coolest!!! especially i liked that metallic sound of it! Duke could have minigun too, although i doubt that 3dr will put it in. But if it is in, then i want it to be really powerful weapon with that metallic barrel spinning sound

[DragonflyWolfTen]

In real life those mini guns run on a car battery. LOL. So Billy in Predator would of needed a wheel barrel to cart everything around he needed for that gun. I think General Electric made the one they customized for that movie. But Hell yes Duke would be awesome with a mini gun. As long as it is real loud and very powerful. And it should absolutely disintegrate enemies whom you unload on.

Edit in:
OK it was Jessie Ventura who carried it, not Billy. Remember "I ain't got time to bleed"?
well here is the link for general electric case your interested
www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun.htm

[Monkey Butler]

How about the laser pistol from the original game, has that been suggested yet? And you could get upgrades so it could fire those little wavy laser things faster.

[trackit]

In real life those mini guns run on a car battery. LOL. So Billy in Predator would of needed a wheel barrel to cart everything around he needed for that gun. I think General Electric made the one they customized for that movie. But Hell yes Duke would be awesome with a mini gun. As long as it is real loud and very powerful. And it should absolutely disintegrate enemies whom you unload on.

Edit in:
OK it was Jessie Ventura who carried it, not Billy. Remember "I ain't got time to bleed"?
well here is the link for general electric case your interested
www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun.htm

oh common man, take it easy!! maybe you will post specs for shrink ray too? ;)

[DragonflyWolfTen]

post specs for shrink ray too? ;)

Shrink Ray is cosmic top secret man, Majestic level 12. But tell me Duke wont kick ass withthis (www.backyardartillery.com/machinegun/)

[trackit]

haha :) that could be boss fighting weapon

[DragonflyWolfTen]

A Laser whip with vibrating handle function? It be cool to whip limbs off the enemy. Duke could find this vibrating in a "secret spot" on one of the leather bad chicks that try to kill him.;) I could really see those evil chicks chasing Duke around with their laser whips coming out of their :censored: :D ;) :cool:

[Micki!]

Duke could scare away pig cops or aliens with a whip from "certain stores"... wierd thoughts..! :o

[DragonflyWolfTen]

No dude you misunderstood me. The whip is a VIBRATOR/DILDO with a 10 foot laser whip that can be activated via the fire key/trigger. After Duke destroys leather slut the VIBRATOR pops out of the grasp of her "talented" moot and is vibrating on the floor. Duke can now use this as a laser whip weapon to sever the limbs off other characters in the game.:)

[Micki!]

I'm not misunderstanding at all...

I'm making a pun, refering to an old comic i drew once..!
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http://www.duke4.net/images/fanart/micki/2.png

[DragonflyWolfTen]

Ha HA funny ass comic! There has to be a sex shop in DNF.

[Micki!]

I'd like to see two types of pistols...

The typical fast shooting pistol with fairly much ammo per magazine, and the more powerfull pistol, using different more powerfull bullets, and with lesser ammo per mag...

Think HL2 for instance... one of the things i liked in this game, because you could always use both pistols in any occation...

I hate it when i get "something better" and whatever i had before it, is rendered useless, as the new weapon suddenly seems superior in every way...
There has to be some sort of balance imo

Ha HA funny ass comic! There has to be a sex shop in DNF.

Thanks, and yes, sex shops would be fun to see in DNF... there was one in Duke3D afterall too...
might as well post this while i'm at it...
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http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4603/dukeredlightiq5.th.png (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dukeredlightiq5.png)

[EDIT:]
Erh, i hope there's no inappropriate speech in this pic, even though i censored it :o

[Denz]

Smack ass and chew shit?

[Micki!]

The numbers of the *'s doesn't hint how many letters the word is written in...

Could as well be "nipples" that is...

But nipples and asses do not have anything to do with weapons, so let's jump back on track :o

[alexgk]

But nipples and asses do not have anything to do with weapons, so let's jump back on track :o
Or do they?

A flamethrower combined with a snowthrower, a beerthrower and a sh*tthrower (or something else, if it's too nasty).

[Denz]

Oh lala

Pipe bomb + kick = super far throw like in american football! \o/

[trackit]

I hate it when i get "something better" and whatever i had before it, is rendered useless, as the new weapon suddenly seems superior in every way...
There has to be some sort of balance imo


good point

[alexgk]

Pipe bomb + kick = super far throw like in american football! \o/
OMG this is a GOOD idea!

[Micki!]

I liked that in Dark Messiah
Things you held, would drop when pressing kick... once dropped, they fall eith a perfect timing to get hit by teh kick, so whatever you hold, gets flying...

Would like to see that in DNF too

[Denz]

Oh! You know when you use the holoduke for the first time, there should be duke in the DN3D version appearing first, and Duke in DNF would say "damn, wrong version" then sets the new version of duke back. It means, in the holoduke, there are sereval version of the hologram software, and there is the DN3D one, and the DNF one.

But i think it's more like an easter egg.

[DragonflyWolfTen]

a sh*tthrower

:D WTF :D

A "shit thrower"? ha ha ha lol:D I could see Duke with a septic tank strapped to his back while unloading on a crowd of innocent bystanders.:D

While this might not be a good idea for Duke, this is certainly a GOOD idea for some crazy bastard.

I still like my idea of a vibrator/dildo with a laser whip function that is inside the Micki of a leather slut whore.

[MakronMan]

^^^The machinie could also become constipated releasing a strong force that sends the sh*t flying through enemies :)

[trackit]

i hope to see weapons that make good use of meqon physics, a lot of destruction and powerful sound :)

[Monkey Butler]

I want to see some sort of laser weapon in a hall of mirrors or something so that it bounces of everything. Maybe have a boss fight in one, James Bond (I want to say Goldfinger) style.

[peoplessi]

i hope to see weapons that make good use of meqon physics, a lot of destruction and powerful sound :)

Yeah, we have covered almost every single possible weapon in this thread, but just as important side to have a believable "gun" in a game - is to have really ass kicking soundeffects to go with it. There have been numerous games that have big guns but which sound like shit. I know this isn't the case with DNF.

[baff]

Not strictly a weapon, but those amphetamines should give Duke a boner.

[Malgon]

I want to see some sort of laser weapon in a hall of mirrors or something so that it bounces of everything. Maybe have a boss fight in one, James Bond (I want to say Goldfinger) style.

That'd be a really good scene to have, showing off the physics and all. I like it. :cool:

[efg]

A slightly off topic question:

Are each of the weapons going to be bound to their respective number keys, or are they going to be grouped by type, like half-life?

[DragonflyWolfTen]

A slightly off topic question:

Are each of the weapons going to be bound to their respective number keys, or are they going to be grouped by type, like half-life?


Wouldnt just about fu*k everyone up if someone, anyone from 3dr came in and answered this question?

[alexgk]

A slightly off topic question:

Are each of the weapons going to be bound to their respective number keys, or are they going to be grouped by type, like half-life?
It'd vary depending of the number of weapons. If DNF has a lot of guns, a Half-Life-esque weapon storage system is very likely.

Wouldnt just about fu*k everyone up if someone, anyone from 3dr came in and answered this question?
They won't. Get used to it.

[efg]

They won't. Get used to it.

I've been lurking here quite a bit, and I've seen a few concise replies...

[DragonflyWolfTen]

yeah, Joe and George both answered a question of mine last year. I was stainedcheecks at the time. we have just been itching for some news in here lately, that's all. Either way when 3DR shines they fuc*ing shine. and I've been wearing my sunnies for awhile getting ready for some press. But hey that's life when your a Duke fan in the early 21 century.

The Weapon idea
A microwave gun. Fully melt the shit out those alien scumbags.

[efg]

hmm, is the mighty foot going to be the only melee weapon?

[bokaj]

I really doubt 3DRealms bothers to read this thread

[trackit]

I really doubt 3DRealms bothers to read this thread

We can actually test it :)


3DR PLEASE RELEASE NEW SCREENSHOT ALREADY!!!! WHAT IS TAKING YOU SO LONG!

on topic: :) i like when every weapon is bind to separate key, it makes it easier to navigate... but if there will be more than 10 weapons (at the same time) then of course they have to make some groups.

So i have another question, will DNF go oldschool way and let you carry around whole arsenal, or more realistic way, so you have to choose a couple of weapons that you can carry at the same time

[peoplessi]

We can actually test it :)
3DR PLEASE RELEASE NEW SCREENSHOT ALREADY!!!! WHAT IS TAKING YOU SO LONG!


You know, if they did people would suppose the game is out in 6-12months that has been floating around. That again would bring too much unneeded speculation, if they miss that "deadline" as well. So I don't we see any media until the game is really really close of being gold.

[trackit]

you missed my point :)

[efg]

I'd hate to a game developer, since weapons are such a hard thing to make innovatively. Think of it, what can you do that hasn't been done without it looking stupid or pointless?

I'm thinking that a really cool idea would be the ability to pick up an object and have two firing modes, melee, and ranged. The cool part would be damage based on item weight, so perhaps that could tie into the game engines physics (assuming the engine assigns weight to objects).

Other items would break after repeated use, like chairs, bottles or paintings ripped from walls.

I guess holding a heavy item would slow you down, but that would lead to inconsistencies like weapon weight. Will Duke's movement speed slow down if he's holding a big gun? Will it make sense if he's faster when it's holstered? Stuff like this depends on how realistic DNF will be, I personally couldn't care less, so long as it adds something new to the genre.

As for my weapon idea?

A stolen alien weapon that fires a brain controlling computer chip. Once fired, it seeks out the targets cranium and forces it's way in and allows you to control the enemy with the weapons alt fire.

Right clicking on an area makes the slave walk or run to that location (depending on distance) and right-clicking on an enemy makes the slave attack. Now here's the cool part, Holding alt-fire on a location or enemy makes them run in and explode with a chemical released by the chip in their brain.

I have a lot of free time...

[Kennerado]

The mind control weapon IF done right could actually be really cool.

[efg]

The mind control weapon IF done right could actually be really cool.

I'm thinking the Slave would be mindless and only attack if you told it to.

[MeatWagon]

I liked some of the weapons in Duke 64, the grenade launcher, the heat seeking missiles and the dum-dum rounds for the pistol, I'd like to see these return.
I'm also big on the idea of specialised ammo like in NOLF, flaming rounds, poison, armor piercing.

[DragonflyWolfTen]

^^Dum-Dum rounds;) The explosive tipped bullets:love: I think these were a Duke 64 only item. man they were great. Could you imagine dum-dum rounds for the duel GDeagles?:love: :love:

[JobivanHiob]

"Stubbs the Zombie" had the Slave/Zombie controlling feature. :)

[Lt.Havoc]

Ya know, all those weapon suggestions........this isnt Worms, this is DNF and I expect the weapons are a little bit more serious then the stuff posten in here latley. Next you guys come up with Exploding Sheeps, Banana Bombs and the Holy Handgrenade. Nothing against silly ideas now and then, but this is a Duke nukem game so expect Duke Nukem weapons.

The guns have to fit Duke.

[Amakou]

Holy Handgrenade

That should be something you unlock with a code...:D

~Amakou~

[Sang]

A Holy Handgrenade should only be in if one of the end bosses is a killer rabbit ;)

[JobivanHiob]

A Holy Handgrenade should only be in if one of the end bosses is a killer rabbit ;)

gold! :D

[Lt.Havoc]

My god, what have I done! :insomnia: :doh:

Well, yeah, could be in as an Easter Egg somehow, but not a regular weapon. Anyways, I think I have to post some more serious weapon suggestions in here soon.

[alexgk]

An Easter Egg Grenade as an easter egg.

[efg]

I just thought of this:

Dukes little blaster rifle from Duke Nukem 1!

It'd be a low-medium power weapon with a decent firing speed.

THINK OF THE NOSTALGIA!

[Monkey Butler]

I mentioned that a while back, and it should be upgradable like in the original as well.

[efg]

I mentioned that a while back, and it should be upgradable like in the original as well.

I think all of the weapons should be upgradable to a certain degree, that would make the game quite interesting. Sights, flashlights, extended clips, and additional firing modes are really great things to have.

[Micki!]

I think all of the weapons should be upgradable to a certain degree, that would make the game quite interesting. Sights, flashlights, extended clips, and additional firing modes are really great things to have.

George already stated once though, that the weapons won't have any "upgrades" like that in DNF...

I mentioned that a while back, and it should be upgradable like in the original as well.

The idea reminds me of Unreal's Standard weapon... throughout the game, it could be upgraded more and more... and Eventually become extremely powerfull...

[peoplessi]

I think all of the weapons should be upgradable to a certain degree, that would make the game quite interesting. Sights, flashlights, extended clips, and additional firing modes are really great things to have.

No use, when you upgrade a gun, it is only a gimmick. Enemies get stronger by same degree so the end result is the same. George Broussard explained this quite well, and I have to say I agree with him on this.

[DragonflyWolfTen]

^pretty much said it there^

lasers and shit would be cool on some guns but they dont have to be a upgrade that you earn.

[efg]

No use, when you upgrade a gun, it is only a gimmick. Enemies get stronger by same degree so the end result is the same. George Broussard explained this quite well, and I have to say I agree with him on this.

Well, I'm not so keen on the weapon getting stronger, I'm just thinking scopes or silencers and such, to make them more versatile.

[Kalki]

Don't expect a great deal of the commercially proven kind of versatility. 3DR don't quite believe in stealth gameplay and many fans have issues with long range sniping when it comes to Duke. Instead you can have interactivity and physics manipulation to push the bar for up-in-your-face gunplay.

[alexgk]

Don't expect a great deal of the commercially proven kind of versatility. 3DR don't quite believe in stealth gameplay and many fans have issues with long range sniping when it comes to Duke. Instead you can have interactivity and physics manipulation to push the bar for up-in-your-face gunplay.
Something like that was showed some years ago, when Half-Life 2 wasn't released yet. Valve showed a trailer in an early version of Ravenholm, Gordon throws a grenade beneath a metal canister, which falls and kills some soldiers below. That never made it into the game, but surely blew me away. Hope to see things like that in DNF in realtime ;) .

[Quirk V0.1]

three things:

1. there has to be an awsome short range weapon (as well as the boot) im thinking a sword or chainsaw could be awsome.

2. the idea of picking up pieces of the awsome alian gun in secret spots as you go along through the game is cool evan if it is a bit of a clishe

3. I reakon its important to have some more fun intresting weapons like the shrink ray and freeze thrower that made Duke 3d a great game. I was thinking a way of partially controlling or turning aliens against each other would be cool maby a modified pipebomb that emits a gas to make aliens go crazy and kill evrything in sight. its just an idea.

[Ellolo17]

Well, dual-mp5 -or any other automatic gun- cluld be very nice...

We don't know if the old ripper is still in this game but if not, this will be a nice thing.

--Another thing, if the ripper -or machinegun- dont need to reload again in this game (like postal2 m-16), i think it will be very cool when you shoot more than 30 bullets in a row Duke roars: YAAAAAARGG!! (like: "take this m*therf***eeeeeeer!!" >:O ) this could be better if the "battlecry" lasts until he stops shoting (even if he gets out of ammo!! XD)

[Ellolo17]

three things:

1. there has to be an awsome short range weapon (as well as the boot) im thinking a sword or chainsaw could be awsome.

2. the idea of picking up pieces of the awsome alian gun in secret spots as you go along through the game is cool evan if it is a bit of a clishe

3. I reakon its important to have some more fun intresting weapons like the shrink ray and freeze thrower that made Duke 3d a great game. I was thinking a way of partially controlling or turning aliens against each other would be cool maby a modified pipebomb that emits a gas to make aliens go crazy and kill evrything in sight. its just an idea.

Hey!; in Quake and turok 2 you could do that if a enemy hits another. It was more easy with no-clip. Instead a pipe-bomb... what about an alien-microwaves gun wich makes you see the aliens like humans(chicks) for a while (you know you are under the influence of that because the borders of the screens get darker -short of-), and when you get that and use the gun against the aliens they shoot to everything/other aliens/themselves blowing their heads (very fun to see) :D

[Micki!]

this could be better if the "battlecry" lasts until he stops shoting (even if he gets out of ammo!! XD)

Hehe... Alá Predator > Minigun Scene:)

[KaiserSoze]

As long as the shrink gun is in(and it's in) I'm happy. I wonder if it'd be possible to play through the entire game with just using the shrink ray?

How about being able to target specific enemy body parts with the shrink ray?
You could shrink a pig cop's head or his arm holding the weapon.

Hell, aim it at his crotch and shrink his package. :D

[alexgk]

World-stuff Teleportation Function Gun or WTF Gun:
No, it's not like Valve's Portal or Prey's Portal Wrench. With the primary trigger (right hand) you could shot an enemy and transport him to an "empty space" (like the one your archieves are when are copied in your PC), and when you shot again, the enemy is teleported to any place your pointing at. The secondary trigger (left hand) is used as your attack means, e.g. a pistol. Some possible situations with this device:
-Teleport your enemy just in front on you and while your enemy is stunned for his altered space perception, you headshot him.
-Teleport your enemy and point to the air. WTF Gun has a long but limited range of firing. Long enough to see a beautiful fall.
-Teleport your enemy inside a water tank or pool, and tranfer him again and again until he dies of air lack.

[Micki!]

Hell, aim it at his crotch and shrink his package. :D

I remember the "mini" Battlelords in Duke3D were only vulnable to shrinkers if they got hit in the crotch :D

[Kien]

Well, dual-mp5 -or any other automatic gun- cluld be very nice...
Please no boring over used weapons such as mp5 deseart eagle and ak-47. Make some weapons up like the chaingun in Duke3d.

[peoplessi]

Well, dual-mp5 -or any other automatic gun- cluld be very nice...

No. Simply doesn't fit. And who the heck would dualwield H&K MP5 :confused:

[brandonlee33]

Maybe a "Ripper" gun, which literally rips enemies in half or quarters or something. i think ripping a pig cops balls in half would be fun

[vcatkiller]

Here's an idea: The Tar Gun

Not so much a weapon as it is an inhibitor of sorts. Shoots a projectile that explodes and spreads a pool of hot sticky tar-like substance that does a small amount of damage and sticks enemies in place. Enemies closer to the center of the explosion will be nearly unable to move at all as they try to struggle free, leaving them easy prey for other weapons. It could also be flammable. (alternate fire could be a match)

It could also be used for alternate paths - shoot this at a wall to make it sticky, then jump at the wall to walk up it. It might be slow progress but you could get to some interesting places using it. Just be careful not to use alternate fire while standing on it.

[Sharpie]

Watermellon gun it would be cool to splat a watermellon into a wall and of course right up all those aliens asses!!:)

[MannFred]

I don't know if this have been suggested before but...

a gun that shoots "explosives", they stick up in enemies and you can detonate them by using the right clicking.

it would be so fun to shoot those explosives in 5 different enemies and blow them up at once :D

[bobthefish]

The Ripper Chaingun is back in the game.

YAY! :D

btw, i would like to see the good old boot back. kickin the crap outa the badies is fun :cool: