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CosmicD
06-22-2006, 02:11 AM
Well, I'd beg lad to sign up but I don't like it so much tha they ask your CC info right away without really knowing what youre goign to pay for..

or did i overlook something ?

smattbac
06-22-2006, 02:17 AM
It clearly says you don't have to enter your creditcard number when registering.

VladR
06-22-2006, 06:34 AM
Why do we also have to wait with Triton for official release date ? I would`ve bought it right away after playing the demo, but we must wait till the official release date (2 weeks ahead).
Why ?

smattbac
06-22-2006, 07:41 AM
The game isn't done yet. :)

fritzchen1
06-22-2006, 07:48 AM
Why do we also have to wait with Triton for official release date ? I would`ve bought it right away after playing the demo, but we must wait till the official release date (2 weeks ahead).
Why ?
Ahm, because of contracts with their publisher 2K Games? :censored:

VladR
06-22-2006, 08:55 AM
Ahm, because of contracts with their publisher 2K Games? :censored:I thought so (many people would do the same thing probably - just buy it right away in download form) ! While that`s understandable, it`s also unbearable ! Oh, well ! Time to wait again !

CosmicD
06-23-2006, 02:43 AM
I've signed up for triton player but it wont send me an validation e-mail, even if I go into the account and try to resend it it doesn't arrive :(

birty
06-23-2006, 12:18 PM
same here. customer support emails bounce too

delse
06-23-2006, 04:40 PM
Personally i do digital dowloands whenver i can but triton looks a bit shaky.My big question is will they start offering preloads before launch.If they dont then ill probally just get the box.

CosmicD
06-24-2006, 05:09 AM
ahh, i've got my confirmation mail right away without a verify email, so I'm downloading the demo already and i'm going to test the play while download feature..

You could preload prey full but their going to charge you $49.. Not doing this yet untill my next visa statement :P

mscoder610
06-24-2006, 07:31 PM
I DLed the Triton client, seems to work fine so far. The Prey demo downloaded fine through it, and works also.

I know someone people were worrying about entering a CC# on the first registration screen when browsers show it's only "Partially Encrypted", but like everyone's been saying, it's optional then. Once I got my account set up, you can enter CC/billing info there, and the page shows as fully encrypted.

Kristian Joensen
06-24-2006, 09:01 PM
Personally i do digital dowloands whenver i can but triton looks a bit shaky.My big question is will they start offering preloads before launch.If they dont then ill probally just get the box.

Yes according to Triton's sub page on Prey:

In a little over a week you will be able to start pre-loading Prey so that there will be no wait once the clock strikes midnight..

delse
06-24-2006, 11:23 PM
sweet ill download it then.Hopefully some of my cash will go to getting duke out the door a little faster :D

CoMa
06-26-2006, 04:43 PM
I'm italian how i can buy prey?
How i can pay with triton?
What kind of credit card i need?
Thx anyway

CosmicD
06-28-2006, 05:05 PM
bumpage:

...so now that prey has gone gold, i've not seen any specific infos on when it will be available on triton ... will it ?

Joe Siegler
06-28-2006, 05:07 PM
Demo is available now. I believe the full version is also available for pre-order there, too.

http://www.playtriton.com/prey

CosmicD
06-28-2006, 06:32 PM
aah, lol, thx, i was watching in the triton player itself but the info on the website changed,

woohoo :)

m4dmax
06-28-2006, 06:50 PM
is this triton stuff going to come with the game or should I download it now to be ready.

9Nails
06-28-2006, 07:00 PM
Dunno about if it comes with the game. IMHO Triton is a different way to own the game. Instead of fussing with going to the store or waiting for postal delivery services, or requiring the CD's and DVD's to play, you just download the game from Triton and play. Triton's player makes sure you have the latest updates for your game. I've used Direct2Drive which offers a similar digital media delivery system. So I'm comfortable with this type of service.

But Triton won't be offering the Collector's Edition of Prey which was a deal breaker for me.

8IronBob
06-29-2006, 12:46 PM
Well, I was gonna preorder by Triton, but I felt that EB Games was far more comforting to me at the time. I never knew anything about Triton until you mentioned them just now, Joe...

CosmicD
06-29-2006, 03:53 PM
they're doing updates on a regular base to triton now.. so i guess thats good but persionally I think there have to be a few improvements.

instead of having your browse trough all games in the browser, why doesn't triton create a "your games" map like steam dose.. then you can play your games immediately;

Also there should be a "log me in automaticly" checlbox to remember the password and it should be staying resident like steam (and in the taskbar menu, giving you the option to quit!"

birty
06-29-2006, 05:49 PM
i dont think triton has to be running for you to play so you can create a direct shortcut to a game you have downloaded without having to use triton at all (I assume this wont work if the game is not completely downloaded though)

pietr
06-29-2006, 09:08 PM
Triton looks extremely hideous to me, like a 1990's era proprietary database management system where the design of the thing was never actually made but just tackled along (and by "design" I don't mean fancy graphics, I mean usability and interface ergonomics).

I was going to purchase the game through it considering it will probably take too long to be released in my country, if ever (Brazil - 2k games don't have local offices here), but the thing looks so weird I'm considering waiting a couple of months instead to see if EA Games will release it around here (EA Brasil usually distributes games from other publishers around here - for example, D3 and Q4 by Activision).

The whole idea of online purchase is great and from what I've seen from some posts by one of the Triton's programmers around the idea is to make something really good, but without being as intrusive as steam is. In concept this is great, but it still seems a far cry from a professional delivery system. Which is bad, because I want the thing to suceed.

CosmicD
06-30-2006, 02:51 AM
hehe, yeah it looks & feels kinda "interactive shareware cd browser" ish :).. but well, maybe 3drealms can convince that the inner workins are ok :)

Anyway, I wonder how it's gonnawork if you dont need triton running, what safety measures will be taken to ensure that it's not just an installed game without protection ?

Electrii
06-30-2006, 08:09 AM
Yeah, this whole Triton thing looks really cheap and dodgy. It seems like a weird business choice to release a game this anticipated on an obscure, cheap-looking service like this, but hey, they probably have their reasons. :)

Gryph
06-30-2006, 08:40 AM
Nevermind, I thought they didn't switch over the new UI.

CoMa
06-30-2006, 08:42 AM
If i download the game from triton i haven't cd-key and cd, so i always need to start triton for play the game?

Kristian Joensen
06-30-2006, 08:43 AM
They are working on a new UI which looks tons better.

They ARE already using a new UI.

Gryph
06-30-2006, 08:44 AM
They ARE already using a new UI.
Oh...damn. Well scratch that post then. I used it a couple of weeks ago so I thought it was the same old crappy UI.

Kristian Joensen
06-30-2006, 08:55 AM
No you need to get the actually Triton client not the old Game XStream player, that one doens't even work for me. Whereas the Triton client DOES work.

CoMa
06-30-2006, 09:01 AM
can u answer to me pls?

Joe Siegler
06-30-2006, 09:59 AM
Oh...damn. Well scratch that post then. I used it a couple of weeks ago so I thought it was the same old crappy UI.

There is another UI under develpment. What you get now is by far not the final version. The final version is better than what's available.

Gryph
06-30-2006, 10:40 AM
I just opened Triton and it didn't update to the new UI that Kristian mentioned. I'm not using the GameXstream downloader, I uninstalled that a long time ago.

But as long as a new better UI is being made then that's all that matters. Thanks for the heads up, Joe.

Kristian Joensen
06-30-2006, 11:28 AM
Well I was talking about new UI relative to the old Game XStream program. If there is an EVEN newer UI coming out then that is a great thing.

Joe Siegler
06-30-2006, 04:25 PM
Well I was talking about new UI relative to the old Game XStream program. If there is an EVEN newer UI coming out then that is a great thing.

There's some screenshots of the newer UI posted by Royal somewhere on these forums.

Joe Siegler
07-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Prey is now available for preload on the Triton download system. If you pre-order the game through Triton (http://www.playtriton.com/prey), you can begin pre-loading the game on your system. If you pre-load the game this way, you will be able to play immediately upon the game's release. Here's some details from Triton:

Pre-ordering is now available through the Triton Player for $49.95 by clicking the "Preload Prey" box. By pre-ordering you will be able to start playing Prey within minutes of the release at 12:01 a.m. on 7/11/2006. In a little over a week you will be able to start pre-loading Prey so that there will be no wait once the clock strikes midnight.

You can also check out the Prey demo via the Triton system as well, so check out all the digital distribution goodness for Prey at Triton's Website (http://www.playtriton.com/prey).

Dawid van Straaten
07-03-2006, 03:40 PM
Nice, I still prefer having a nice shiny box though.

John
07-03-2006, 03:47 PM
Heh, I didn't even know it was going to be officially released on the 11th. :D Good to know!

hanged_man
07-03-2006, 03:49 PM
That's one high price for downloading from the net ...id rather wait and have a shiny box for that money

CrimsonHead
07-03-2006, 03:53 PM
This Triton is'nt going to be like a Steam type thing where everyone is forced to install this and be online all the time? One of the good things about the Doom³ engine(besides the graphics:D ) is the freedom, no forced external unneccessary crapware that you don't want. Steam takes up memory, steals personal info, forces you to install against your will, I hope other developers don't start going down that road. I know piracy is a big problem, but geez I'd be willing to phone my cd key in, mail a copy of my receipt, but please don't force people to be online for an SP game, or have external memory resident stuff running, thats just evil.

//edit//

I just found my answer here http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19400 nevermind sorry

Phayzon
07-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Already preordered PC LCE last month :D Good to know 7/11 (<-- lol. For those that dont know Seven-Eleven is a convienient store, not sure if its outside the US [or even my area for that matter]) is the release date.

ercdevious
07-03-2006, 04:46 PM
You think best buy will let me preload ;)

Damien_Azreal
07-03-2006, 05:30 PM
Would be nice if Triton would let you pre-load like Steam does. Pre load the game to your PC and then when you get your retail version, just enter your CD-key and your good to go.

But I don't mind installing it the old fassioned way, gives me time to look at the manual. :)

marty56
07-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Well I took the plunge. I purchased Prey through Triton and its downloading now. I figure worse case I could always buy the game in hardccopy later and best case I help drive a stake in the heart of Macrovision and Sony and I dont need a CD/DVD in my drive.

I used Steam to play HL2 and I had no major issues with it. Once or twice I had to play in offline mode since Steam was down.

Let you know when I finish downloading.

Guru
07-03-2006, 05:53 PM
I purchased from Triton also because I am in New Zealand and it will not be here till the 14th so I am glad to be able to play it on the 11th via Triton Preload. Thank you for giving me this choice 3drealms :)

marty56
07-03-2006, 07:26 PM
The preload stop after creating 2 folders:
Assets
DATS

Inside Assets, there is a file called 0001_Preload.dat which is 322MB.

Inside DATS, there are 2 small .DAT files.

No indication about it is done or if an error occured.

Anyone else tried this?

9Nails
07-03-2006, 07:47 PM
I'm right there with Marty56, a huge thumbs down to Macrovision and Sony protection schemes. Digital downloads are the way to go.

I would buy through Triton, however I am significantly bothered that Triton couldn't ship the contents of the LCE then offer a download of the game. It's unfortunate that there wasn't an LCE package for them to offer. I understand that instead of paying for packaging, they're charging for bandwidth. But I'm referring mostly to the two figures, sound track, and the art book. It would have been nice if they could send just those items.

marty56
07-03-2006, 08:00 PM
Prey is now available for preload on the Triton download system. If you pre-order the game through Triton (http://www.playtriton.com/prey), you can begin pre-loading the game on your system. If you pre-load the game this way, you will be able to play immediately upon the game's release. Here's some details from Triton:

Pre-ordering is now available through the Triton Player for $49.95 by clicking the "Preload Prey" box. By pre-ordering you will be able to start playing Prey within minutes of the release at 12:01 a.m. on 7/11/2006. In a little over a week you will be able to start pre-loading Prey so that there will be no wait once the clock strikes midnight.

You can also check out the Prey demo via the Triton system as well, so check out all the digital distribution goodness for Prey at Triton's Website (http://www.playtriton.com/prey).

It seems that Triton doesnt download the entire game during preload but it downlaods a portion of it and streams the rest to your computer while playing. This begs the question about performance. It is my understanding/hope that once a level is downloaded or some other part you need, Triton doesn't need to downlaod it again. To be honest I dont really like this and had I read the Triton page a little more carefully, I might have changed my mind by buying the game in this manor.

It would have been better that you clearly describe how Triton worked. Event the Mod in anopther post stated you didn't need Triton to play the game which may confuse other people here.

Guru
07-03-2006, 09:41 PM
This is ridiculous!!

I bought from Triton to PRELOAD the game before the 11th so I could play it the same day. Now it only did 8% (322mb) like mentioned above and said I will have to wait till the 11th for the rest. I do not have a fast connection and it will take over 3 days to get the rest of the game, will I have to play 322mb worth then wait another 3 days to play?. What is the point of preloading if I have to wait till it is out to download 92% of it. Sorry for the frustration but please anyone else thinking of purchasing look into this in more detail! :(

Steve
07-03-2006, 09:43 PM
This is ridiculous!!

I bought from Triton to PRELOAD the game before the 11th so I could play it the same day. Now it only did 8% (322mb) like mentioned above and said I will have to wait till the 11th for the rest. I do not have a fast connection and it will take over 3 days to get the rest of the game, will I have to play 322mb worth then wait another 3 days to play?. What is the point of preloading if I have to wait till it is out to download 92% of it. Sorry for the frustration but please anyone else thinking of purchasing look into this in more detail! :(
Oh man that sucks mate :(

Joe Siegler
07-03-2006, 09:43 PM
Prey over Triton doesn't require you to have downloaded the whole game to actually start playing. :)

Steve
07-03-2006, 09:43 PM
Prey over Triton doesn't require you to have downloaded the whole game to actually start playing. :)
Really? I'll read a tad more.

Guru
07-03-2006, 09:52 PM
Thank you for the reply joe, I appreciate your time.

I have a few questions regarding this though. Since I have downloaded 8% and it will take 20hrs to finish the rest what happens when I get to the point where I have played more than it has downloaded?. And also what kind of performance hit am I looking at for streaming content?.

Cheers.

marty56
07-03-2006, 09:52 PM
Given the choice, people may want to actually download all the game first.

I understand that just-in-time game content saves bandwidth and may hinder priracy, but I would like to know for example, once a level is downloaded, it is need to be downloaded again if there hasnt been any changes to it or do you always have to download a level. This would come into play in MP and replaying single player mode?

That might make people like me feel better and maybe even cause people to buy the game from Triton this way as well.

IceColdDuke
07-03-2006, 09:57 PM
How are people that use Triton going to be able to use the level editor if the game assets are streamed to them everytime there needed? And whats the point of preloading it to 8%...thats not even worth the time to click the button. :)

marty56
07-03-2006, 10:14 PM
I hope Triton is not that stupid in that it only downloads content when it changes. Once its downloaded and if it didnt change, it would stay on the hard disk.

marty56
07-03-2006, 10:23 PM
To be fair, I will wait till the game is released and see how Triton actually works before making a finaly judgement
But tell me that you guys didnt really think that the issues reaised her wouldnt come up or there may be some confusion?

IceColdDuke
07-03-2006, 10:44 PM
(For the record I didn't buy the game through Triton) but how would the level editor work? Do you have to play the entire game through once before you get all the assets to be able to fully mod or map for Prey?

OBWANDO
07-04-2006, 12:10 AM
Duke,

You will be able to use the editor either through the console or via command line (which you will see in an update in ~2 days) with the desktop icons. The assets themselves will be in the clear, and you can mod away just like q3/d4.

Those at 322 meg, you will see your preloads resume at the same time to 1.68Gb. By release day you will have 98% of the game already preloaded with only a short stream (less than 10 megs) to finish it up.

Regarding streaming mode, we keep streaming the data in whether the requests change or not. The only difference is what order its streamed in. If it is way ahead, it will keep on streaming data until its completely done. It does not stop streaming until the game is 100% complete.

--Royal

IceColdDuke
07-04-2006, 12:13 AM
Duke,
Those at 322 meg, you will see your preloads resume at the same time to 1.68Gb. By release day you will have 98% of the game already preloaded with only a short stream (less than 10 megs) to finish it up.
--Royal

Then whats the point of preloading?

Otto von Keisinger
07-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Minimise the time it takes after the purchase to start playing, I presume.

IceColdDuke
07-04-2006, 12:29 AM
Minimise the time it takes after the purchase to start playing, I presume.

384mb out of 2gigs doesn't save you much time at all ; ).

Guru
07-04-2006, 12:38 AM
Thank you for that Royal!

I am very happy to know that I will have most of the game before the 11th and really appreciate that information. If this is true I will be a loyal fan of Triton for a long time to come :)

George Broussard
07-04-2006, 12:41 AM
Then whats the point of preloading?
So you can flip the switch and play it the second it's available. No waiting for stores to open, or copies to be delivered via UPS, etc.

Digital delivery is really for people that 1) want it immediately, or 2) just casually pick it up later for whatever reason, on impulse buy.

IceColdDuke
07-04-2006, 12:50 AM
So you can flip the switch and play it the second it's available. No waiting for stores to open, or copies to be delivered via UPS, etc.

Do you the option to play the game seperatlly from Triton(say make a backup DVD)?

Mysticc
07-04-2006, 01:04 AM
At Triton http://www.playtriton.com/faq.asp you can read that:

1: You cannot play offline, what sucks

2: You canot burn your game on CD/DVD for Backup or for taking the game to a machine without Internet, this also sucks. (There are gamers not connecting their gaming-installation to the Internet for performance reasons and also for not having to deal with all this security you have to take care when connecting to Internet)

So Triton is no choice for me.

I remember someone from 3DRealms saying "We don`t like Stream, but we like Triton"

I too don`t like Stream, however I cannot see why I should like Triton.

The above mentioned points are showstoppers for me.

Babe
07-04-2006, 03:23 AM
I prefer the boxed DVD version too. Who cares for and getting stuck for downloading chunks of the game ? And besides, you can not even burn the game on CD/DVD . Whoa , what an option for a legit purchaser :( ?!

OBWANDO
07-04-2006, 04:16 AM
"1: You cannot play offline, what sucks"
FAQ need to be updates.. You will be able to play offline.

"2: You canot burn your game on CD/DVD for Backup or for taking the game to a machine without Internet, this also sucks. (There are gamers not connecting their gaming-installation to the Internet for performance reasons and also for not having to deal with all this security you have to take care when connecting to Internet)"

You can copy the folder / back it up, however you will need at least a net connection to reauthorize the copy. And Prey also requires a net connection to authorize the CD key itself, so either way CD/DVD or Digital, you will need a net connection to at least authorize the key on a new install.

Only thing is that if you scratch/kill your disc or lose your key, you may have a harder time than just redownloading and looking online for your key in your profile.

No matter what your decision is, its a choice you can make. Prey is a great game either way.

Also Duke, you will have 1.68GB before the 11th. The client self patches for updates.

--Royal

OBWANDO
07-04-2006, 04:25 AM
I will try to answer a couple of the questions going backwards..

Marty: "Given the choice, people may want to actually download all the game first."

You can do that as well... You can just let it go and not play and it will fully download the game, or you can let it download, jump in play a couple levels, get out, go eat, go back play some more, get out / etc... it will just keep going, and if your connect breaks, it will retry until it gets 100% of it all. At that point we're just a passive.

Guru: "And also what kind of performance hit am I looking at for streaming content?. "..

On a 2ghz pc with 768 meg the tested differential (by another firm not us) came out to be ~1-3 fps under heavy load from the game, and was determined that it would be hard to determine the difference.

Duke: "Do you the option to play the game seperatlly from Triton"

Triton will create an icon on your desktop so you can go into prey without looking at us. We are a delivery system, and the idea is for us to help get the game to you, not stand in between you and the game. The more transparent we can be, the better.

One of the cooler things is running from the icon with only 30% of the game installed, having the game pop directly up and forgetting that you are actually still receiving the game while you play.

--Royal

Chris Dri
07-04-2006, 05:58 AM
Sounds good, being able to play a game while its still downloading, imagine being in a multiplayer game, and its still downloading the map, u go round a corner and its all wireframe because the textures havent downloaded yet, lol.

Seriously tho it sounds good, but... there must be a but!

GambitMR
07-04-2006, 06:08 AM
Another Question:
What I like about Steam is that I can install the game on my old pc@home with slow internet connection ... leave my copy of the game at home and when I log into steam on my new pc@appartment it will give me the option to download my regsitered games.
Can i expect something similar with Triton or would I have to have the DVD to install Prey on my 2nd PC ?

CameO73
07-04-2006, 06:26 AM
Am I the only one that noticed this remark from OBWANDO?
And Prey also requires a net connection to authorize the CD key itself, so either way CD/DVD or Digital, you will need a net connection to at least authorize the key on a new install.

I thought the CD/DVD install didn't require an online authorization? Not that it really matters to me, but there were a couple of hot dicussions on this subject...

motionblur
07-04-2006, 06:47 AM
Prey does NOT need an net connection to authorize the CD/DVD. He apparently missed the topic about it.

HH didn't have the time to implement it so they scrapped the activation.
Which is a good additional reason for me to buy Prey. I hope DNF will have no activation, aswell (even though I doubt they won't have the time to implement it... :p)

OBWANDO
07-04-2006, 06:49 AM
GambitMR: Yes, you can expect the same thing. You will have the ability to load it and play from each place, but if 2 people try to play on the same account at the same time, it will boot them off.

I get to test this every day when one of the other developers decides to use my account and i get punted in debug mode.

And actually the multiplayer mode is funny how it works. (Putting my D3 dev hat on for a second)... D3 engine based games load each player model needed before getting into a map plus any objects that are going to be on the map + of course mesh / etc... So basically the only real thing that loads dynamically are sounds. And many of those are loaded with the sound shader references from the model.

So what would happen? well, if the object wasnt there, and you were playing, it would go after it in realtime, the doom 3 timer would have a frame tick, we would already be requesting it, then hold on next tick, grab the object, plant it, and release. so you would probably see a stutter in play, but only for that sound. From the testing we've done.. MP games have been pretty easy on us.

--Royal

Kristian Joensen
07-04-2006, 07:16 AM
Well I have already preordered Prey trhough Triton bu all I get now is a box with this text on it: "Congratulations on your preload purchase of Prey. Next week, when preloading begins, you will see this box update."

I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?

trackit
07-04-2006, 07:21 AM
i dont mind triton as long as its only optional and i still can get my game from retail store and play it offline etc...
i cant see that some people may like digital delivery... having options is a good thing.

i really hope though that they wount make it the only way to get games in the future.

trackit
07-04-2006, 07:23 AM
HH didn't have the time to implement it so they scrapped the activation.
Which is a good additional reason for me to buy Prey. I hope DNF will have no activation, aswell (even though I doubt they won't have the time to implement it... :p)

well said :D

i can live with one time cd key activation though... but i dont want to have to be online every time i want to play

marty56
07-04-2006, 07:52 AM
Marty: "Given the choice, people may want to actually download all the game first."

You can do that as well... You can just let it go and not play and it will fully download the game, or you can let it download, jump in play a couple levels, get out, go eat, go back play some more, get out / etc... it will just keep going, and if your connect breaks, it will retry until it gets 100% of it all. At that point we're just a passive.--Royal

So we cant download the rest of the game until the 11th or when it is released.

Is there a function to validate the download or to re-download the content if desired. Downloading stuff can get correctupted and I will assume that Triton uses something stronger than CRC to check data.

8IronBob
07-04-2006, 08:56 AM
Bah, still have it preordered on EB Games' website, so I'll be waiting around for those to show. Triton sounds great, but it's too little, too late...

birty
07-04-2006, 09:03 AM
Well I have already preordered Prey trhough Triton bu all I get now is a box with this text on it: "Congratulations on your preload purchase of Prey. Next week, when preloading begins, you will see this box update."

I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?
I had that too. You are probably on the old blue client which doesnt seem to update itself. uninstall it and then download the new client and it should work (this is what I had to do)

Duoae
07-04-2006, 09:03 AM
I would like triton if i was able to download it and not have to run triton in the background - which is what i understand from all the differing posts here... Why doesn't Joe or HH make a sticky FAQ about the service?

GambitMR
07-04-2006, 09:54 AM
thanks for answering the question(s) OBWANDO ;)

DI-MeisterM
07-04-2006, 10:08 AM
After reading all of this, I'm really happy that HH/3DR isn't forcing us to use Triton :)

Kristian Joensen
07-04-2006, 10:22 AM
I had that too. You are probably on the old blue client which doesnt seem to update itself. uninstall it and then download the new client and it should work (this is what I had to do)

What old blue client to you mean ? I just recently dowloaded the new Triton as opposed to Game XStream client(or in that case "player").

Edit:

Oh and there don't seem to be any problems with the client since downloading the Doom 3 Demo worked and the Prey preorder worked.

Babe
07-04-2006, 10:30 AM
Open your eyes my friend, there are svers limitations to purchasing the game from Triton. I quote from the official Triton FAQ page and try to explain :

In order to purchase a game you must download our Player software.

Explanation : So it means that without this software, you cant run the game. So your game becomes dependent on Triton, just like Half Life 2 is on Steam.

On some slower broadband connections, it is normal behavior for the game to occasionally freeze or stop responding during game play. This allows required "chunks" of the game to be downloaded and processed by your computer. If this seems to happen too much please verify your broadband connection, or exit the game, and allow it to download a larger portion of the game ahead of time before playing again.

Explanation : Game will sometimes play jurky the first time you play the game. And isnt the first time the best time to enjoy the game at it's fullest ?

You will be able to backup your game folder to a CD, however you must reauthorize the copy with the latest Triton player.

Explanation : Why Triton users have to got through this ? As far as I know by reading from various forum threads, no such types of installation authorization is done for the CD/DVD users.

And ofcourse, you dont get CDs/DVD with a case and a nice kool looking box !

Wolle
07-04-2006, 10:34 AM
What old blue client to you mean ? I just recently dowloaded the new Triton as opposed to Game XStream client(or in that case "player").

How recently? I downloaded a client last week, but it didn't work either. I had to install the new, improved one. I'm not sure when it came out, but it's within the last week or so.

Kristian Joensen
07-04-2006, 10:44 AM
Is June 28th, recent enough ?

Wolle
07-04-2006, 10:52 AM
Is June 28th, recent enough ?
I don't know, but it should look like this:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/732/image19mk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The client is only a 2-3 MB download, so if you're in doubt you can always download it.

Kristian Joensen
07-04-2006, 10:54 AM
That is pretty similar(but not exatly the same) to the one I had, but I just downloaded another verson.

However the version I downloaded apperantly won't let me login.

birty
07-04-2006, 11:05 AM
yep i downloaded last week and got the old client. If it looks similar to https://www.distream.com/disms/startingframeset.asp then it is the older client and needs to be replaced by the newer client pictured above

HRose
07-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Yeah, the old version of Triton seems broken and doesn't update itself. I had also to disinstall/reinstall.

Triton guys reading the forum should give this problem a look.

On the other side it looks like they are really trying to do a good work (I noticed they added auto log-in and the possibility to save the password).

IceColdDuke
07-04-2006, 01:24 PM
On the other side it looks like they are really trying to do a good work (I noticed they added auto log-in and the possibility to save the password).

Now looking at what there doing it seems Triton arcthicture seems solid, but as long as a boxed version of the game I still think thats the best option versus online systems like Triton.

So my next question is, is the downloaded content inside of some encrypted archive where the exe is barried in or is the EXE seperate so users can use command line switches?

Kristian Joensen
07-04-2006, 01:46 PM
Well with the Doom 3 demo on triton the exe is seperated.

HRose
07-04-2006, 01:47 PM
You should be able to use just the standard shortcut as with other games. It won't be an issue.

OBWANDO
07-04-2006, 05:05 PM
Kristian: "I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?"

Yes

HRose: "You should be able to use just the standard shortcut as with other games. It won't be an issue."

Its a little different than the regular direct shortcut, but performance wise, the same.

Guru
07-04-2006, 05:30 PM
OBWANDO,

I just reinstalled Triton and deleted my 8% Prey Preload to start downloading it again, will it goto 98% this time or if not when will it?. Thanks

Preybait
07-04-2006, 09:36 PM
For not getting a box and manual I thought the whole purpose of downloading a game was a cheaper price. Since they are charging the same I will just get the game from the store and not have the hassle people are talking about with triton.

IceColdDuke
07-04-2006, 09:41 PM
For not getting a box and manual I thought the whole purpose of downloading a game was a cheaper price. Since they are charging the same I will just get the game from the store and not have the hassle people are talking about with triton.

Exactlly and you could hve got the box copy cheaper(40.00 including tax and shiping) which definetlly a better buy then buying it through triton, if it was cheaper or close to $40 I would have considered buying it through there but if you have a choice 3-5 day wait for shipping after the release isn't that bad of a compromise.

Aegeri
07-04-2006, 10:20 PM
OBWANDO,

I just reinstalled Triton and deleted my 8% Prey Preload to start downloading it again, will it goto 98% this time or if not when will it?. Thanks
I have no idea myself, but if I've interpreted what OBWANDO has indicated it must work like this. From the time that you had preordered the game and started preloading, the triton install will download a certain amount per day up to a certain amount. Initially that was 322mb or whatever it was, then it will slowly increase that per day. Essentially, by the time it reaches the 11th it will have downloaded all but 2% of the data, which it will finish on that day.

So basically each day from now it will allow you to DL more. So maybe 3% initally, then 8% the next day, then 12% the next and so on and such forth until it reaches 98% preloaded by the 11th.

I've no particular idea why on earth they've decided to go with such a funny staggered downloading system, but it appears to be the way things work.

Guru
07-04-2006, 11:05 PM
It seems to be downloading all of it now as I am upto 31% and it is still going strong. I think it was just a bug initially which they have fixed now so thank you Triton for coming through for your customers.

HRose
07-05-2006, 04:57 AM
I've no particular idea why on earth they've decided to go with such a funny staggered downloading system, but it appears to be the way things work.
Steam did the exact same thing with HL2. It's a smart way to not kill the servers.

marty56
07-05-2006, 06:56 AM
How did you get Prey to continue to preload. How big is your folder now?

dark_angel
07-05-2006, 07:07 AM
I also have a question, will you be able to pause and resume the downloads ?

sure.

marty56
07-05-2006, 07:11 AM
There is a cancel button but no pause and resume button. I will let someone else try that and see if it works.

I uninstalled Triton, renamed the orginal folder, and reinstalled Triton and am downlaoding the game again. This time it downloaded 1.56GB

CoMa
07-05-2006, 09:40 AM
Can u explain to me better how triton works?
Sorry my bad english me italian.
When i download the game from triton, i'm able to play the game without triton ?

Damien_Azreal
07-05-2006, 09:53 AM
Have you used Steam? It's pretty similar.

darkfalcon
07-05-2006, 11:17 AM
Can u explain to me better how triton works?
Sorry my bad english me italian.
When i download the game from triton, i'm able to play the game without triton ?

Yes you will be able to play the game without using Triton. Triton is a delivery system that gets the game to you as fast as your connection can go.

You can even preload it now and play it within minutes of its release on July 11 at 12:01 AM.

--Andreu

marty56
07-05-2006, 08:08 PM
The first time I installed Triton it dowloaded 322MB. I unstalled it and reinstalled it and it downloaded 1.56GB.

There arent any options on Triton to verify the download or event to tell me how much of they game I have.

I would like more info from the Triton program and beacuse Triton will launch the game from its menu, it isnt clear that you have to run the game through Triton every time or do you use it to insure you always have the latest updates.

There is only one large file and 2 small files in the download folder and non of them are .exe or other type of game files, I will assume that when the game is unlocked, the Triton gets the files from the larger files - sota like a zip file.

Duoae
07-06-2006, 05:39 AM
Yes you will be able to play the game without using Triton. Triton is a delivery system that gets the game to you as fast as your connection can go.
--Andreu

As far as i understand it that's not entirely true. If you download it through triton then you HAVE to have triton - like steam - to run the game.

If you buy it on cd then you don't.

I'm a little confused because there was all this talk by 3DR when the system was called the other thing about how it was better than steam and how it was different.... but now it's not. There is no difference except buying a boxed copy is actually better than buying a boxed copy of a steam game....

marty56
07-06-2006, 07:05 AM
From the Triton FAQ

7. What does it mean by client stamp does not match?

...If the player is moved to another PC, or accessed with another user account, it may request another stamp to verify its own integrity...

8. Do I have to be online to play the games I have purchased?

No, Using the latest Triton player you will not be required to be online to play games that have been fully received. Once the game has been received it is authorized for offline use. Perfect for LAN parties.


9. Can I burn a copy of my games to a CD that I have purchased through Triton?

You will be able to backup your game folder to a CD, however you must reauthorize the copy with the latest Triton player. Simply log into the player, and point the install path to your backup folder and it will reauthorize it for use with your account.

FAQ 7,8,9 Seems that while you need the player to launch the game, you may not need to be online once you have all the game. This is reasonable and protects the game from piracy. Since Many programs already do this (antivirus comes to mind) this may work out better for us and the developer then the tradional forms of copy-protection which are hardware based.

Item #9: I dont see an option on the current Triton player to perform this function. perhaps it is only avaiable when the game is ready to be used.

CosmicD
07-06-2006, 07:39 AM
As far as i understand it that's not entirely true. If you download it through triton then you HAVE to have triton - like steam - to run the game.

If you buy it on cd then you don't.

I'm a little confused because there was all this talk by 3DR when the system was called the other thing about how it was better than steam and how it was different.... but now it's not. There is no difference except buying a boxed copy is actually better than buying a boxed copy of a steam game....

Well I hope by the release of the game they'll present us with the new triton look that also will show us some more core features and be a bit more vocal about locations , status of own or available games, or more accessible and intuitive account functions.

I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend :) I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours :)

marty56
07-06-2006, 08:26 AM
I was able to downlaod 1.56GB at my connection speed (DSL pro ~ 300KB) I didnt think time time the download but it seemed quicker then that.

I think it worked very quickly and faster then Steam. Try downloading the Prey demo using Triton first to get an idea of the speed.

Duoae
07-06-2006, 03:24 PM
Well I hope by the release of the game they'll present us with the new triton look that also will show us some more core features and be a bit more vocal about locations , status of own or available games, or more accessible and intuitive account functions.

I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend :) I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours :)


The thing is, my point was that there's no difference between the two services; Triton and Steam. One is as bad as the other, preloading speed makes no difference to anyone.... authentication is the evil i'm annoyed about....

IMO, a download service should force people to burn the files to a cd and then provide the same service as actually buying a cd from the stores. Not force authentication every time you install etc. You can easily force a "1 burn per download" so why not do it? You still own the game... your game list is still recognised by triton and you still have to have punkbuster to play online.... But of course even 3DR isn't above current concensus on copyright protection in downloadable games.... I think it's sad that they were saying for so long how much better the service was and that it was different from steam - maybe for marketing purposes for all i know.... but it's not. IMO this is a SONY style mistake.... I learnt my lesson when purchasing HL2 (also LSL: Magna Cum Laude - i know :doh:) and i don't plan on purchasing another needlessly authentication-crap loaded game. It's why i don't purchase the premium Neverwinternights modules. I would love to buy them, support the dev, but what's the point if i have to be online everytime i want to play. If they don't trust me, i don't pay them. Simple as.

avatar_58
07-06-2006, 03:46 PM
LSL:MCL? I don't know what you mean, it didn't have any authentication. Unless you bought that shitty VUgames unrated cash-in.

marty56
07-06-2006, 04:01 PM
The thing is, my point was that there's no difference between the two services; Triton and Steam. One is as bad as the other, preloading speed makes no difference to anyone.... authentication is the evil i'm annoyed about....


Any game that requires you have the CD and or DVD in it does authentication each time as well. Your game probably checks the stored CD each time it runs also.

marty56
07-06-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm going to order prey trough triton this weekend :) I'm curious about the speed of preloading. I could redownload hl2 ep1 in 8si hours :)

I don't know how big HL2 ep1 was but my dowload was much faster. Granted I may have hit the servers at the correct time. I think the download for 1.56GB for me was around 1.5 hours which is about as fast as my DSL connection could download at ~ 300KB

Duoae
07-06-2006, 04:26 PM
LSL:MCL? I don't know what you mean, it didn't have any authentication. Unless you bought that shitty VUgames unrated cash-in.

I bought it through Vu games online division... yes i know it was a TERRIBLE mistake. I thought i might have been funny... it wasn't.

Any game that requires you have the CD and or DVD in it does authentication each time as well. Your game probably checks the stored CD each time it runs also.

You know exactly what i mean. There is a difference between requiring the purchased media and an actual service (ie net connection) to authenticate the actual product. Don't purposely misinerpret me or defend the processes because they are fundamentally different.

Kristian Joensen
07-06-2006, 04:31 PM
Duoae, online authentication won't be used for Prey. That decision was reveresed.

CosmicD
07-06-2006, 04:32 PM
I don't know how big HL2 ep1 was but my dowload was much faster. Granted I may have hit the servers at the correct time. I think the download for 1.56GB for me was around 1.5 hours which is about as fast as my DSL connection could download at ~ 300KB


I believe steam in belgium is often slow.. not alway, and its also depending on what server steam chooses to connect maybe

marty56
07-06-2006, 04:38 PM
They both serve the same purpose to vaildate they you are not running a pirated copy or someone elses.

Duoae
07-07-2006, 09:29 AM
Duoae, online authentication won't be used for Prey. That decision was reveresed.

So you no longer require Triton to authenticate it the first time you run the game? You no longer require triton to be on the HDD to be able to run the game if downloaded through triton? This wasn't what i understood from posts after mentioning that constant authentication would not be implemented...


They both serve the same purpose to vaildate they you are not running a pirated copy or someone elses.

I reiterate. Having a cd check and a service check are completely different things. You can use a CD check on any pc and not have to pay a subscription fee for a service (eg. internet access) nor does any external factor to the game need to enter into the check process.
Online authentication requires external factors to the game media and your PC. In principle they serve the same purpose, but the difference is how it's applied. It's like driving from one city to another or getting the train. They are both transportation techniques but they are not the same...

[EDIT]
I've been trying to find more indepth up to date information on the triton service, but www.playtriton.com has no information past sales pitch... and http://www.distream.com/ the parent company's home page has removed the information it previously had about the triton system.... I mean, "Click for more information:" but it's just a picture and no hyperlink...

Kristian Joensen
07-07-2006, 10:27 AM
"So you no longer require Triton to authenticate it the first time you run the game? You no longer require triton to be on the HDD to be able to run the game if downloaded through triton? This wasn't what i understood from posts after mentioning that constant authentication would not be implemented..."

Constant online authentication was NEVER required. It was just once per install and even THAT was removed from the retail version, you don't have to authenticate the retail version online at ALL, EVER. As for the online version, Triton shouldn't be required to have that running. That is not how Triton works, the games on Triton have got their own independent executable files that you can run independent of Triton itself. I see no reason for why Prey should be different in that regard.

IceColdDuke
07-07-2006, 10:42 AM
I see no reason for why Prey should be different in that regard.

They stated before somewhere if you log in more then once it will knock off the other person that logged in with your account so I dunno how "seperate" it will be.

Duoae
07-07-2006, 10:43 AM
Okay, thanks for setting things straight Kristian. I was oviously confused :)
There really isn't enough information on the webpages for triton.
But just in case i'm still going with the retail copy.

[edit-after icecoldduke]
So there's still confusion ;)

marty56
07-07-2006, 12:30 PM
The Prey demo downloaded from Triton seems to use the same executable and files as the one I downloaed through Gamespot. It adds 2 folders, the purpose of which is not known.

There was some sort of update to Triton today but its hard to tell what happend since there is no version info that can be viewed from the Trition GUI.

The Triton GUI leaves a lot to be desired but as long as the process works, thats okay.

Will see come Tuesday.

CosmicD
07-07-2006, 12:39 PM
about that, are you using the new one ?

I've read on another topic that you just have to login on www.playtriton.com and then download the new player and you'll have the new UI.. it's already improved but it still needs some more vocalisation about the status of your game, where you have downloaded it, if you want to remove it, backup stuff etc...

and the screenshot is here : http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpost.php?p=344044&postcount=53

marty56
07-07-2006, 12:52 PM
I think I have the latest version. I am downloading the demo again but I dont see the netspeed info on the Triton GUI. It tells me "begin in" time which I assume is when I will be able to play the game.

CoMa
07-07-2006, 01:14 PM
When i start Triton it's say to me an error £ i happen... then i log normally, what this mean?

CoMa
07-07-2006, 01:15 PM
Error 3 sorry

Mr.Fibbles
07-07-2006, 03:26 PM
if it aint broke,don't fix it.
if it works then I see no problem.

but it would be wise to google it.

CosmicD
07-07-2006, 04:10 PM
yeah, it's kinda weird here too, I saw netspeed but when you go back to downloaded stuff it just says "demo again"? but doesnt say where you can remove stuff etc...

still kinda incomplete.

In one hour i'll be in my next visa statement time window, so I can FINALLY preorder, wiiiii

marty56
07-07-2006, 04:49 PM
Try uninstall and download the latest version by logging into your account using the Triton web page.

I havent seen that error before or any error out of Triton.

Here is the link:
https://www.distream.com/DiSMS/login.asp?loginAct=False&Logout=True

OBWANDO
07-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Heres how the authentication works... When you received your copy, Triton authorized it. Once it is fully received (no need to stream any more of it) you will not need to be online. So there is less checking than looking at your CD in the drive.

It contains your information and signature in a secure container. When you start gameplay, it unlocks that container, and checks to make sure your copy is good, and just plays. It does not go back to the net and pull down the account info.

So let say you put the client on your laptop and pull the game down... once you have it all you can then go for a plane ride and game on.

If you download it to your PC, then copy the folder to your laptop, it will require you to log in to verify that it IS your copy that you bought (a quick 1 minute or less process), and then you can play away offline.

The backup process is not built in, you just use your favorite backup tool to burn the folder, but remember, when you copy it back, you have to go online to reauthorize it (or everyone and their brother would be busy pirating that copy).

In regards to the client, yes we are adding a lot of features to make it easier, however if you have some suggestions, let us know. I am more than happy to take suggestions and see what we can do for implementation. I am also one of the core programmers on that UI, so you have a direct communication line to help us make things better. There is no such thing as a dumb idea except for the one that wasnt posted.

Post them here, or send me an email: obrienr (at) distream.com (antispam hopefully) or drop me an IM ICQ:8944487 AIM/Y!: OBWANDO msn: obwando@hotmail.com

--Royal

Duoae
07-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Heres how the authentication works... When you received your copy, Triton authorized it. Once it is fully received (no need to stream any more of it) you will not need to be online. So there is less checking than looking at your CD in the drive.

It contains your information and signature in a secure container. When you start gameplay, it unlocks that container, and checks to make sure your copy is good, and just plays. It does not go back to the net and pull down the account info.

So let say you put the client on your laptop and pull the game down... once you have it all you can then go for a plane ride and game on.

If you download it to your PC, then copy the folder to your laptop, it will require you to log in to verify that it IS your copy that you bought (a quick 1 minute or less process), and then you can play away offline.



So it's exactly as i said then....

marty56
07-07-2006, 06:40 PM
For Triton.

1. An About button which would tell you what the current version was and check for updates.

2. Validate preload. % total of game loaded. Option to stream game wihout playing - have entire game prior to playing.

3. Check for game updates on demand.

OBWANDO
07-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Unprotected games & Demos on triton do not need triton to run. Protected games only need triton to stub-load and decrypt them, but do not need all of the graphical overhead to be used. The only difference is that the game itself doesnt have a CD protection code built into the game's executable.

If piracy were not an issue and everyone took care of the developer, protection would not be needed. However piracy is pretty nasty in the PC gaming sector, so you have to give the developers the basic ability to make money or they will not be able to make games.

--Royal

CosmicD
07-07-2006, 06:45 PM
I've got the entire stream ready , wow that went fast 600k/s

Is it only 1.5 gb ? or is there still coming some more ?

marty56
07-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Unprotected games & Demos on triton do not need triton to run. Protected games only need triton to stub-load and decrypt them, but do not need all of the graphical overhead to be used. The only difference is that the game itself doesnt have a CD protection code built into the game's executable.
--Royal

This is a much better way to go then CD/DVD copy protection which everyone knows have hardware compatability issues.

Anyone running Windows XP or one of the major anti-virus/firewall software, allready has software that performs validation and anti-piracy functions via the Internet.

marty56
07-07-2006, 07:21 PM
I've got the entire stream ready , wow that went fast 600k/s

Is it only 1.5 gb ? or is there still coming some more ?

Thats about what I got. Yes I also noticed Triton was fast.

marty56
07-07-2006, 07:25 PM
I am also one of the core programmers on that UI, so you have a direct communication line to help us make things better.--Royal

Myself and I suspect other Triton users would be happy to beta test for you. Maybe you can have the game released early so we can fully test it prior to the 11th.

Okay, it was worth a try.

You can bring on the beta though.

OBWANDO
07-08-2006, 12:04 AM
Myself and I suspect other Triton users would be happy to beta test for you. Maybe you can have the game released early so we can fully test it prior to the 11th.

Hehehe... Yeah... You would see pictures of me getting Nukem'd.

At 1.5Gb, you have it. The latest patch should have taken care of all unfinished preloads.

I appreciate the assistance. If you have any ideas or things you think could use some help or to be made easier, send them over. Oh, and the next patch should go out tonight, and addresses the "What is this thing doing, and why do i only see Streaming??" item. I adjusted it so it shows you time and speed at all times no matter what, which was a good observation made on this board. Plus some other minor items as well.

We are not adding any other large features until after the release of the game. Reason is that we are cleaning everything up and do not want to disturb the stability of the client.

--Royal

HRose
07-08-2006, 05:07 AM
Right now when I launch Triton I get this:
An error occurred while opening the file to be downloaded. Error 3.

Useful features that could be added:
- Verify integrity of the files and repair.
- Minimize to tray.

marty56
07-08-2006, 05:47 AM
I dont know if this help but things to try:
1. Check you account that it is verified.
2. Uninstall Triton, download the latest version then re-install.

Do you have a firewall?

CosmicD
07-08-2006, 11:17 AM
hmm, client wise I'm puzzled why the ability to remove something was removed, in "my games" i got the nfsu2 and prey demo, deleted these and its till in my games, with the previous GUI you could remove these, but not any longer with the new ones.. or am i missing something ?

marty56
07-08-2006, 01:49 PM
Can you try to download the demo again and point it too the same folder. Can you log into Triton and download the Triton software again?

OBWANDO
07-08-2006, 02:00 PM
We are adding a piece into the "My Games" to remove it from that list for demos. The confusion can come in when you own a game and delete it, you would then think you no longer own it, but you do... So, if I deleted it from your My games folder, someone might say "Hey I bought this and accidentally deleted it and now its gone.. What gives??"

I'm thinking of putting in a small icon that will show that you have it locally versus owning it. The other sign is when you delete it, it will say "Demo/Game/Preload 0% loaded" or "Waiting to load demo/game/preload".

Error #3 was a bug from the 0991 build installer. Marty is correct, just uninstall and get the newest one and you will no longer have that problem.

--Royal

marty56
07-08-2006, 02:14 PM
Those GUI changes sound good.

OBWANDO
07-08-2006, 04:15 PM
Just a heads up. Those that were using the MCE client (blue) will notice an upgrade when they run, and it will be replaced with the new TritonPC UI.

This was for many reasons, and also made the maintenance much easier for us to manage. There will be a replacement 10 foot version in the near future using the current UI engine. If you are interested in making your own from XML and JPEGs/PNGs, I will post instructions on how to very soon.

--Royal

ADM
07-08-2006, 05:40 PM
The new GUI is MUCH better Royal. Still needs a bit of work but you guys are definitely on the right track now.

HRose
07-08-2006, 08:37 PM
I reinstalled yesterday and "error 3" was gone.

Today it's back again.

CosmicD
07-08-2006, 09:27 PM
Wonder if we can get an ETA on the exact triton release moment of prey, like valve does :)

marty56
07-08-2006, 09:33 PM
I think it is 12:01am July 11. I dont know what timezone though. It would be nice if it was Zulu time.

CosmicD
07-09-2006, 07:26 AM
hmm, if its 3drealms time then it will be 9am-ish here tuesday morning, that would be a good thing to start the day :)

marty56
07-09-2006, 07:35 AM
As a Triton user, it kinda feels like you are waiting for some really good concert tickets to go on sale, and you go back to the Ticketmaster site every so often to see if they are on sale yet.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 03:31 AM
prey = Day + 1 :)

PS: y'all received this mail with your prey key ? ... It's getting closer :)


If you haven't already started your preload, be sure you begin right away so you can play as quickly as possible come release night.

Once the clock strikes 12:01 EST on July 11th, you will be able to hit "Play game" on your client


I guess in Belgium that's 06:01 :)

marty56
07-10-2006, 06:09 AM
Yes I got the email.

marty56
07-10-2006, 07:29 AM
There was another update to Triton, I just logged in and it updated.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 08:32 AM
ah, another suggestion.

Allow for the account or client to set a preffered game install directory. Now it always reffers to c:\tritonpc. But I preffer my games on the D disk. is it possible to invent a feature where you can set this as a prefference, so when yoi install a game or demo, it writes the "prefference dir" as standard ?

Maybe when you have a basdir prefference set, it could be convenient not to get the option to set a dir anymore per game (when you load a stream for a demo or preload).. then everything will be set automaticly in your prefference dir set in the prefference setting

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 09:07 AM
Whats this I been hearing about a email with a cd key? I preloaded yesterday and havent got a email for a cd key to play? I got the order receipt though.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 09:31 AM
Gasoline > since you ordered yesterday, that mail might still come today. i've ordered saturday 1 am, its not so long ago but the producers might be occupied sending mails around to everyone..

on another note, i've been trying to stream the prey demo again so i can have a savegame to go on with the retail game where the demo ends.

Now i've noticed something weird. Could it be that the triton client stops streaming when the game starts ? I've been like 20 minutes befor I got to the part after grandfather teaches you how to spiritwalk and got stuck because that part of the game wasn't on my hd fully yet.

When I broke off the prey demo process i saw that triton was downloading at some 900 Kbps . Isn't that fast enough to stream the entire game demo while I arrived and got stuck where I did ? (thats why I think streaming stopped but i'm not sure... should try it again with dumeter running...

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 09:35 AM
Cosmic, I would assume it stops, just like Xbox live stops any active downloads when going into a game, then continues after you exit the game. Im sure it only stops if you play a game through Triton.

CoMa
07-10-2006, 11:04 AM
I have uninstalled triton, and then i reinstalled... i have pre-loaded the game before the uninstall, and now it's say to me there is an error 3 and when i push play button, it's start to download game another time...
I have payed 2 copies of the game? How i can play it?

Micki!
07-10-2006, 11:15 AM
I suggest you should e-mail this issue to the Triton people...
Or maybe you're lucky, and others here know what to do...

marty56
07-10-2006, 11:31 AM
The web site says its supposed to stream during gameplay which is one of the selling points of the game.

I am a little supprised that the demo would Stream during play. I would think it would wait till all of the demo would download, but I dont really know.

marty56
07-10-2006, 11:33 AM
You can log onto your Triton account and look at the billing transactions. There was an update this morning so I would recommend that you download the latest version from the download page on your account info.

marty56
07-10-2006, 12:52 PM
Whats this I been hearing about a email with a cd key? I preloaded yesterday and havent got a email for a cd key to play? I got the order receipt though.

From the email:
...If you lose your key, just contact customer support and they will be able to assist you. There will be a page in your profile added shortly that will allow you to retrieve it online at any time...

I havent seen this page yet but check your account online and if not, email them.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 01:02 PM
when I logged under transactions it says it has all approved and I see someting under it that looks like a cd key, Under usage activity?

Edit: NM that was the server id that I downloaded from I guess.

bummerman
07-10-2006, 01:07 PM
I tryed to buy the game but the expiration date of my visa card kept rewriting causing an error and will now have to buy at Gamestop. Anyone else have this problem?

marty56
07-10-2006, 01:49 PM
when I logged under transactions it says it has all approved and I see someting under it that looks like a cd key, Under usage activity?

Edit: NM that was the server id that I downloaded from I guess.

That is not the key, it may be a transaction thing or something.

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 05:09 PM
They are going to flip the switch tonight at midnight, so if you're on the fence, don't mind trying new things, and don't care about a cd/dvd, then try digital delivery. It really is the future.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 05:11 PM
George, I got it all preloaded ready to go! Just one question, What time zone at midnight? Im EST time.

SyntaxN
07-10-2006, 05:14 PM
So I don“t like the future then.

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 05:19 PM
George, I got it all preloaded ready to go! Just one question, What time zone at midnight? Im EST time.
I believe it's midnight EST, so 9pm PST?

Mad_Hatter
07-10-2006, 05:23 PM
I'll be playing tonight at midnight, and should have my full impressions by tomorrow if all goes well. Of course not that anyone would care... :( but I'm excited.

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 05:24 PM
I'd love for you Triton guys to post back here about your experiences and how you think it went. Feedback is good.

marty56
07-10-2006, 05:26 PM
I believe it's midnight EST, so 9pm PST?

So if I set my computer right now to 12:01am EST I can play the game.

Worth a shot anyway.

marty56
07-10-2006, 05:28 PM
I'd love for you Triton guys to post back here about your experiences and how you think it went. Feedback is good.

So far its been great. Kudos to Obwando for his support.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 05:30 PM
awesome EST time! I'll be playing it all night! Dont have to go into work tomorrow until noon either :-) George, I'll post feedback and let people know how it went. I hope it goes smooth. Preloading was VERY fast and was impressed. Lets just hope everything else goes that smooth.

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 05:31 PM
i'm downloading now and it's faster than steam has ever been. the speed keeps jumping between screamin and WOOO!!, which means i'll have prey on my puter in less than 21 minutes :cool: .

the interface is kind of bleh, but with speed like WOOO!!, who cares :)

EvilDead
07-10-2006, 05:41 PM
Can someone post link to Triton website ?

Plz. ;)

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 05:45 PM
Can someone post link to Triton website ?

Plz. ;)

linky (http://www.playtriton.com)

Zogger
07-10-2006, 06:06 PM
Meh. I signed up for triton but I never got my validation email. to be honest it didn't feel like it was worth persisting after that because the site seemed slow, and when I first tried to sign up the for was blocked out by some random images, which didn't bode well for the rest of the system. Maybe I should have carried on, but I've ordered it from play.com now... will probably be a couple of days (given that for some reason it says it's in stock.. possibly wrong tho in which case it'll probably be next week..)

Gives me time to keep working on my upcoming site till it arrives tho...

marty56
07-10-2006, 06:13 PM
i'm downloading now and it's faster than steam has ever been.

I got the files a my network connection speed of 300kb (DSL pro)

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 06:17 PM
I already preordered last weekend... From the time I heard it would be digitally available, I wanted to have it this way!

Downloaded & preload is ready and well, in my topic I already gave some feetback but kinda spread it..

If i was able to go without sleep rightnow i'd even stay up, it's only 4 hours and 45 minutes away...

but if I go to sleep it'll be right befor the door :P

Denz
07-10-2006, 06:21 PM
I'd like to know if there are free things or demo available so we can try out the triton systeme.

Gryph
07-10-2006, 06:26 PM
If it weren't for the cool LCE stuff then I would have gotten it from Triton.

marty56
07-10-2006, 06:26 PM
Yes, you can get thr Prey demo from them. They also have other demo games Doom 3 I think.

CoMa
07-10-2006, 06:37 PM
I have pre-loaded the game, then triton say to me error 3, so i reinstalled it.
Now it don't show me the folder where i downloaded the game.. i push play and it's streaming another one...so i have buyed 2 copies of the game?
If yes how i can stop it ?
Why this service suck so much?
If i mistake to push or i not understand good i will pay 49£...
Pls a little help
Sorry my bad english me italian

OBWANDO
07-10-2006, 07:05 PM
T-4 hours...
Everyone will have their keys before hand.
It does stream while you play. The games are optimized for 1 megabit, but will run on just about anything. Just if its less than 1 meg, it could pause if it needs data.

We will be around all night making sure things move along smoothly.

--Royal

IceColdDuke
07-10-2006, 07:13 PM
Atleast you guys are dedicated to maintaing it, still I can wait a week for my box to come ; ).

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 07:32 PM
T-4 hours...
Everyone will have their keys before hand.
It does stream while you play. The games are optimized for 1 megabit, but will run on just about anything. Just if its less than 1 meg, it could pause if it needs data.

We will be around all night making sure things move along smoothly.

--Royal

I had mine preloaded since yesterday, But I been hearing people talk about some cd key or key Im supposed to get in my email. I have not gotten that yet? will I need that to play the game?

Preybait
07-10-2006, 08:04 PM
I still think it should be cheaper then a store copy. Thats the one thing keeping me from Triton at the moment.

Peoples reviews of it with the full game tomorow will be nice.

bummerman
07-10-2006, 08:12 PM
I couldn't get past a bug that rewrote my expiration date on my credit card and gave up since I can pick it up tomorrow at Gamestop

Denz
07-10-2006, 08:12 PM
I have pre-loaded the game, then triton say to me error 3, so i reinstalled it.
Now it don't show me the folder where i downloaded the game.. i push play and it's streaming another one...so i have buyed 2 copies of the game?
If yes how i can stop it ?
Why this service suck so much?
If i mistake to push or i not understand good i will pay 49£...
Pls a little help
Sorry my bad english me italian


Send triton an email.

OBWANDO
07-10-2006, 08:27 PM
You will need it for the game, and should receive it shortly.

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 08:28 PM
2.5 hours till live! Go Go GOOOOOOO!!!!!

bummerman
07-10-2006, 08:29 PM
They are going to flip the switch tonight at midnight, so if you're on the fence, don't mind trying new things, and don't care about a cd/dvd, then try digital delivery. It really is the future.
I like CD's. Why is it the future?

bummerman
07-10-2006, 08:30 PM
I thought about sending Triton an e-mail for my problem, but by the time I got a response, I'd already own the game

Babe
07-10-2006, 08:31 PM
Online delivery system such as Triton and Steam are not really the future even though business enterpreneurs will like to make you believe that. If you download a game online and write it on a CD/DVD called "imation" or "HP" or the "originality/legality" appearance of the game is gone. It looks like a pirated game copy version. And besides with other super headaces like online validation/authentication with online systems, I would like to stay in present and past and go for boxed edition versions which look kool and legit in the shelf :).

bummerman
07-10-2006, 08:32 PM
I still think it should be cheaper then a store copy. Thats the one thing keeping me from Triton at the moment.

Peoples reviews of it with the full game tomorow will be nice.
yes, it should be!!!

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 08:34 PM
yes, it should be!!!
You can blame retailers and publishers for this. It's something I want to address in the future as 1) I think digital should be slightly cheaper than retail and 2) I'd like to get more pre-order incentives in place to make up for the price, to begin with.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 08:43 PM
Im getting nervous, almost 2 hours away and no cd key in email yet :-( I hope I get it before midnight so I can play.

Gryph
07-10-2006, 08:44 PM
I wish the Triton team luck for tonights first major game activation. Hope it runs super smooth!

reefinyateef
07-10-2006, 08:50 PM
I wanted to try because I'm really impressed by Steam. However, Triton doesn't accept my Best Buy gift cards :)

Neptune
07-10-2006, 08:58 PM
I like Triton. I'm even taking a quick look at their 'crap' games. (Notice how Prey is the most expensive title there?) I've always been a sucker for ceesy rpg's so I might buy one or two of the cheap games.

But, yeah, I'm playing at midnight.

Nexus_sa
07-10-2006, 10:19 PM
Gave Triton a shot tonight, for the most part it's been working for the preload with a few minor hiccups:

1) Paid for the game but never got any indication that the game had started streaming or anything. So I closed Triton and reopened it after a few mins and was then prompted for a DL location.
2) Left the DL streaming while we went out to dinner. Came back and it had frozen at 32%. Had to close the client and reopen it to continue the DL.

That's where I'm at now. If I have any more issues I'll post them here.

Can't wait to play :D

Nex

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 10:21 PM
I still have not got my cd key through email. Nexus, their supposed to get a cd key to ur email to play. I preloaded mine yesterday and still dont have it.

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 10:26 PM
no problems here. pre load took all of 20 minutes, but no email with the key yet.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 10:30 PM
no problems here. pre load took all of 20 minutes, but no email with the key yet.

yeah I do not either and its making me nervous. A couple guys said they got theirs already. When did you preload? I hope they send em out right before launch because one of the only reasons I did this was to play it at 12:00.

HornBuckler
07-10-2006, 10:31 PM
I am(trying) I have a cable connection and it is reading that I am getting anywhere from 200kbps to 500+ and I've been at it for almost 3 hours still showing 1% of total download??? WTF?

anyone else having this kind of trouble?

Edit : btw, it says I have an ETA of almost 90hrs - unless this game is 50 gigs I dont get that at all...

Yabba
07-10-2006, 10:36 PM
The Triton app has gone thru many changes since i downloaded the preload a week ago. It's still clunky. We'll see if it does its job in 20minutes... and counting. It looks like the post times are about 2 hrs off florida's times..

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 10:38 PM
The Triton app has gone thru many changes since i downloaded the preload a week ago. It's still clunky. We'll see if it does its job in 24 minutes...

did you get your cd key email yet?

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 10:39 PM
yeah I do not either and its making me nervous. A couple guys said they got theirs already. When did you preload? I hope they send em out right before launch because one of the only reasons I did this was to play it at 12:00.

i preloaded tonight, about 4 hours ago. i'm a little nervous too, having read about the othere getting their keys. hopefully they'll get them out in time.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 10:41 PM
i preloaded tonight, about 4 hours ago. i'm a little nervous too, having read about the othere getting their keys. hopefully they'll get them out in time.


yeah they better or Im going to be Pi$***! They advertised it as you can play at midnight and thats why I did this.

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 10:42 PM
I've asked Triton where the keys are, guys. Hopefully they will be sending them out soon. Looking into it.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 10:44 PM
thanks George, Im glad your trying to help out :-) Shows dedication. Thank you!!!

Yabba
07-10-2006, 10:45 PM
Got my key today, about 12 hrs ago...

Yabba
07-10-2006, 10:45 PM
15 minutes...

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 10:49 PM
I've asked Triton where the keys are, guys. Hopefully they will be sending them out soon. Looking into it.

thanks. i'm sure they're busy with last minute orders(like mine) but i sure would like to have a run at it tonight.

d3ad connection
07-10-2006, 11:00 PM
15 minutes...
Go time for you.

Yabba
07-10-2006, 11:03 PM
It's 12:03 and I'm getting nothing...

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 11:04 PM
at least you have your cd key :-P

d3ad connection
07-10-2006, 11:04 PM
Its 11:04 for me.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:05 PM
/me is rising and shining :P

shotgun
07-10-2006, 11:06 PM
So, anyone get their prey to start unlocking yet? A no go here thus far.

d3ad connection
07-10-2006, 11:06 PM
You got it? :P

reaperman18us
07-10-2006, 11:06 PM
12:06 and nothing GARRRR!!!!

Yabba
07-10-2006, 11:07 PM
"Once the clock strikes 12:01 EST on July 11th, you will be able to hit "Play game" on your client and it will stream your unlocking key and the remaining portion of the game. It should be less than 10 megabytes. Once it has been received by the client it will begin decrypting and unpacking your game. This may take up to 20 minutes depending on the speed of your hard drive and PC.

Once it is finished, it will launch prey and you will be ready to play." STILL NOTHING!!!!

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:07 PM
http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java

d3ad connection
07-10-2006, 11:08 PM
Holy crap! It appears Triton has failed to meet the 12:01 mark :O

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 11:08 PM
no luck here. still waiting on a key...

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:09 PM
starting/shuttng down triton all the time :P

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 11:09 PM
I bet its the cd keys holding them up. They probably want to make sure everyoen has their key before they launch the game to be fare.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:09 PM
.....hey, and i didnt set an alarm clock to wake up LOL it was 6:01, hows that :)

shotgun
07-10-2006, 11:10 PM
The email with your key has the email "Royal O'Brien" not the normal triton email address... just so you know. I got my key right after I bought prey yesterday afternoon.

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 11:10 PM
I GOT M"Y //keY!!!!!!!!! Check ur email!!!!!!

Yabba
07-10-2006, 11:10 PM
I'm in the EST (Toronto). It's 12:10 here...

reaperman18us
07-10-2006, 11:10 PM
I came home from work went to bed , set an alarm to wake up and took tomorrow off from work lol.

OBWANDO
07-10-2006, 11:11 PM
We dont want to go "radio silence" we had a minor synchronization, we will need about 20-30 more minutes...

There will be an update, then you will be online. I will post immediately when the first server syncs and accepts the streams.

reaperman is correct "GARRRR!!!!"

--Royal

DoubleFudge
07-10-2006, 11:11 PM
my key just arrived :)

Yabba
07-10-2006, 11:13 PM
I bet its the cd keys holding them up. They probably want to make sure everyoen has their key before they launch the game to be fare.
That would be lame were it true.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:13 PM
hmm, could take a while if every key is to be sent to everyone who preloaed , but maybe their only taking the pre orders, then launch, then later those who are applying rightnow

Gasoline
07-10-2006, 11:14 PM
We dont want to go "radio silence" we had a minor synchronization, we will need about 20-30 more minutes...

There will be an update, then you will be online. I will post immediately when the first server syncs and accepts the streams.

reaperman is correct "GARRRR!!!!"

--Royal

they need 20-30 minutes more. Thats cool! I got my key ... Time to get another beer!

Noam sane?
07-10-2006, 11:14 PM
This thread and the posts of the famous voice actor Mr. Broussard and OBWANDO convinced me to purchase with Triton just now at about 9 pm. I got an email confirmation of my purchase but there is no indication from the Triton window that anything has happened except when I click to purchase Prey again it says that I am already streaming the package.

Just have to wait and see I guess.

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:15 PM
ah, then i can shower & have some fewd first

George Broussard
07-10-2006, 11:18 PM
We know it isn't live yet (should be soon):

From Royal, in the other thread:

===

We dont want to go "radio silence" we had a minor synchronization, we will need about 20-30 more minutes...

There will be an update, then you will be online. I will post immediately when the first server syncs and accepts the streams.

--Royal

CosmicD
07-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Well, they need about 20 minutews more to set everything up nicely i guess.

He's right to make 2 topics so triton will be in the spotlights. For me it's always the way to go to download the game from internet (with paying). It's a convenient way and you can as easily have it removed and reinstalled if you want .

Here we were already giving suggestions for several days.

OBWANDO
07-10-2006, 11:19 PM
We're on our way up.. 15 more mins...

Noam sane?
07-10-2006, 11:19 PM
I have just received a second email with my "CD" key.
Nothing appears in "my games" tab however.

HornBuckler
07-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Got My CD-KEY but my download won't be down for 123 hours?!??! I've been trying to download the preload for about 4 hours now, and am resting at 28megabytes - I have a cable modem and it's working fine.... something is amiss - anyone else having trouble? It says I am averaging 300-600kbps but my estimated time of arrival is 123 hours or so.... I don't get it - I;ve sent E-mail to Trion - awaiting response.

I KNEW I should have bought it from Best Buy tomorrow! ARGH!