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Hole
02-13-2002, 07:25 AM
I recently downloaded the Max Payne E3 trailers 1998-2000. The 1998 is the most interesting.
First, I'm glad you changed the sound fx of the weapons, in the trailers they sound like a BB gun.
Second, I'm wondering about a few things:
1) Who's the guy on the motorcycle?
2) Who's the big creature with the big weapon?
3) What happened to the electric shocker and the lazer pistol (I think I heard it wasn't accurate).

To tell you the truth, I find some elements I liked in the trailers missing in the final version, and I wish they were included. I don't know how to explain what are those elements.

[ 02-13-2002, 07:25 AM: Message edited by: Hole ]
biXen
02-13-2002, 08:56 AM
1st question, I think they had planned a lot of different things that you could be able to do, but they changed directions.

2nd question. The big guy existed when they planned on making the Valkyr thing even bigger (And lamer).

3rd question... Lazer pistol? I've only seen the prod, and I don't think it was cool enough.

In the beginning of games there's always alot of stuff that changes, that's why it's not smart to show it off... live and learn as Remedy will... images/icons/smile.gif
SnLnc
02-13-2002, 10:58 AM
Where can you download the old E3 movies?
Hole
02-13-2002, 11:59 AM
SnLnc: http://maxpayne.gamigo.de/?zone=files.inc

biXen: There was a pistol with lazer aiming (and cool crosshair).
That's why I wanted "Lame Max Payne", since I wanna try some things I've seen in the trailers...

Mod anyone? images/icons/smile.gif
FullMetalJacket
02-13-2002, 02:54 PM
You want a laserpistol? Try the ProjectX mod. images/icons/grin.gif
Devil Master
02-13-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by FullMetalJacket:
You want a laserpistol? Try the ProjectX mod. images/icons/grin.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ProjectX? Isn't that a Duke3D mod?
Hole
02-13-2002, 04:03 PM
Why not release Lame Max Payne, it had some nice stuff there...
SkavenRMD
02-14-2002, 12:09 AM
Because.

The big guy just looked stupid. We decided to leave zombies, mutants and space aliens out of Max Payne.

The laser sight was just a polygon, it would have swung around stupidly when Max runs, clipped with walls and gone through anything. We decided to spend the coding effort of making a real, working laser sight elsewhere.

The motorcycle guy didn't work very well due to some bone grouping problems (his head flew off his body when he aimed his gun) and the lack of vehicle physics, so he was discarded. Plus there was no good way to make the bike and the guy separate when he gets shot (so that he would fall off the bike).

In theory a mod-maker could do a motorbike guy nowadays, because the bone problem isn't there any more (pivots didn't work at an earlier point in development, now they do). But only if you accept that A) it would not have any real vehicle physics, so all its moves have to be be animations, B) The bike and the biker cannot be separated very far when the biker dies, and C) You need to create a custom skeleton for it.

Plus the fact the bike will probably bleed when you shoot at it. images/icons/wink.gif
biXen
02-14-2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Hole:
SnLnc: http://maxpayne.gamigo.de/?zone=files.inc

biXen: There was a pistol with lazer aiming (and cool crosshair).
That's why I wanted "Lame Max Payne", since I wanna try some things I've seen in the trailers...

Mod anyone? images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">DUH, that's a Pistol with laser sighting, not a laserpistol images/icons/smile.gif
biXen
02-14-2002, 01:17 AM
LOL, well, you can end it in a B-movie way... blow it up fast...
Hole
02-14-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
We decided to spend the coding effort of making a real, working laser sight elsewhere.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You mean those commando guys in part III?

[ 02-14-2002, 11:13 AM: Message edited by: Hole ]
revenant100
02-14-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Hole:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
We decided to spend the coding effort of making a real, working laser sight elsewhere.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You mean those commando guys in part III?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No, that was a scripted sequence and I think that laser sight was a polygon.
Devil Master
02-15-2002, 01:25 AM
There already is a mod that adds a laser sight to the Desert Eagle. It looks good, but it's completely useless.
biXen
02-15-2002, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Devil Master:
There already is a mod that adds a laser sight to the Desert Eagle. It looks good, but it's completely useless.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">As most of the female actors in American movies images/icons/rolleyes.gif
Xenomorph[nmtb]
02-15-2002, 07:35 AM
"Plus the fact the bike will probably bleed when you shoot at it." <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ROFL! That would've been great!
Hole
02-15-2002, 07:54 AM
How about a mod, "Mike - The Talking Motorbike"?
Ninja
02-15-2002, 05:27 PM
GIVE US NIGHTRIDER!
RollingBrass
02-15-2002, 06:36 PM
No, **** that. Just give us a nude David Hasselhoff skin.

Did I just think that or type it out? Yeah...I think I thought it....I'll just hit the "Post Reply" button to make sure....

[EDIT] [Krusty the Clown]AWWWWWWWWWWW CRAP!!!![/Krusty the Clown]

[ 02-15-2002, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: RollingBrass ]
Hole
02-15-2002, 07:13 PM
A-ha... images/icons/rolleyes.gif