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Co11
02-20-2002, 10:50 AM
Anybody know if there are going to be other games that will be using the Max-FX engine? I think it's one of the best out there.... If not THE best... images/icons/smile.gif
The Viper
02-20-2002, 11:19 AM
The last I heard they were not going to licence the engine to anyone
The Viper
02-20-2002, 01:25 PM
yeah about 10x times its market price I bet images/icons/wink.gif
Guest
02-21-2002, 12:03 AM
No, they'll license it to anyone who pays for it. I'm assuming it's not cheap though.
SkavenRMD
02-21-2002, 12:09 AM
The Max-FX engine is not being licensed at the moment.
sawn_off
02-21-2002, 12:49 AM
A lot of modders say the engine isn't so good. Hitman 2: Silent Assassin's Glacier engine will be much better.
biXen
02-21-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by sawn_off:
A lot of modders say the engine isn't so good. Hitman 2: Silent Assassin's Glacier engine will be much better.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hope this wasn't your words, Hitman 2 looks shite, just as the first one. The graphics looks way too clean, there's no realism in them. It's like comparing MOH:AA and Ghost Recon, where GR wins clearly...
sawn_off
02-21-2002, 01:09 AM
biXen, please retract the statement before I flame you to little girl's tears! Hitman 2 will rule, you foolish fool! Do not diss Hitman! images/icons/mad.gif graemlins/tinyted.gif
Xenomorph[nmtb]
02-21-2002, 01:22 AM
...where MoHAA wins clearly...
The Viper
02-21-2002, 01:24 AM
bs mohaa is a very good game. Graphically GR beats it 100-0
SkavenRMD
02-21-2002, 09:01 AM
I'd like to point out that graphics depend as much, if not even more on the artists than the engine. If the artists suck, the graphics suck no matter how good the engine. If the artists rule, the game can look good no matter how poor the engine is (within reason, of course; I prefer having more than 2x2 pixels and 2 colors to work with images/icons/smile.gif ).
Shaded
02-21-2002, 09:39 AM
Hitman was an outstanding game. I am looking forward to the sequel.
The Viper
02-21-2002, 11:39 AM
skaven: so true. Although the more polygons the engine can push to the screen the more freedom does the graphics artists have. (me thinks)
FullMetalJacket
02-21-2002, 02:43 PM
What the hell are you talking about? MOHAA looks [I]way[/B] better than GR.
The Viper
02-21-2002, 02:51 PM
no it doesn't
biXen
02-21-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by FullMetalJacket:
What the hell are you talking about? MOHAA looks [I]way better than GR.[/b]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">On your 286 with a Trident card maybe, but on my 1,4GHz with a Ti200 some antialias and 1280x1024x32 Ghost Recon surpasses MOH:AA in the first gear. The nature looks amazing, and it doesn't look like it's built from squares like MOH:AA does. MOH:AA's strength is in the tiny AI changes and good missions, not the graphics. No sane person will say that GR looks worse than MOH:AA, we get that confirmed by Xeno, which sure as hell isn't sane images/icons/grin.gif

I liked Hitman, I'll probably like Hitman 2, but no, the game isn't better than Max Payne (it's to wussish), the graphics look weird, or rather, the graphics look too much like they were made on the computer, compared to e.g. Max or GR. The textures in Hitman are dreaful, the photorealistic textures in Max makes everything seem more realistic...

sawn_off: and I don't think your threats do any good except give us all a good laugh images/icons/grin.gif
sawn_off
02-21-2002, 08:55 PM
Ooh, look at me, I'm making people happy! Er, I forgot what he said after that.
biXen
02-22-2002, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by sawn_off:
Ooh, look at me, I'm making people happy! Er, I forgot what he said after that.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I believe this is what you mean images/icons/smile.gif


Ooh, look at me! I'm making people happy! I'm the magical man from Happyland, in a gumdrop house on Lollipop Lane! [walks out, slams door, then sticks head back in] Oh, by the way: I was being sarcastic.
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Mister Funklemeyer
02-28-2002, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by FullMetalJacket:
[I]way[/b]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hahaha! thats funny.

anyway.. there are more to games than graphics.. hitman was genius. i love it.. and hitman2 will be better... but max payne kicks both games asses.

AND the asses of MOH:AA and GR
sawn_off
02-28-2002, 10:02 PM
Max Payne's engine is clearly worse than Hitman's. It didn't even have physics. The only difference was Max Payne had really nice lighting.
revenant100
02-28-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by sawn_off:
It didn't even have physics.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not many games do.
sawn_off
02-28-2002, 10:15 PM
True. Hitman's engine is groundbreaking.
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by sawn_off:
True. Hitman's engine is groundbreaking.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">LMAO. The only new or good thing in Hitman's engine was the physics, the physics which made deadbodies look like rag dolls after they were dead. That can't overdo Max Payne which looks and plays like a God, Hitman is wavy in the controls and can't compare to the camerause in Max Payne, which is awesome, either. Now, go see that eyespecialist then come back later...
The Viper
03-01-2002, 01:28 AM
what exactly does controls and camera use have to do with the engine?

And dead bodies in hitman looked damn convincing to me. Maybe it's you who needs glasses images/icons/wink.gif
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by The Viper:
what exactly does controls and camera use have to do with the engine?

And dead bodies in hitman looked damn convincing to me. Maybe it's you who needs glasses images/icons/wink.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I would think that the engine decides how well you can get that working young man images/icons/grin.gif

It seems clear to me that you've never seen a dead body, OR you have never turned on the slow-mo in hitman... without the slowmo the game was deadboring I might add. One shot in the foot makes the bodies practically dance in the air, now I've never even seen that in movies. Maybe it's something that happens a lot up there in Finnegan land though...

And simply put, with those crappy ass textures and bad lighting you can't even compare Hitman to MP anyway...
The Viper
03-01-2002, 01:34 AM
excuse me not being the international hitman that you apparently are. BUT in my honest opinion you can't compare the character animations in hitman and in Max. Hitman is just superior in that aspect.

And yes max is still much better game than hitman was. Looks much better too.
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by The Viper:
excuse me not being the international hitman that you apparently are. BUT in my honest opinion you can't compare the character animations in hitman and in Max. Hitman is just superior in that aspect.

And yes max is still much better game than hitman was. Looks much better too.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yeah I agree... if the characters are supposed to be baby dolls...
The Viper
03-01-2002, 01:38 AM
ok, it's much better to have predefined animations and bodies that go stick when you shoot 'em. Whatever...
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by The Viper:
ok, it's much better to have predefined animations and bodies that go stick when you shoot 'em. Whatever...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now you get it, but a golden middleway would be the best... But as we know, the world is 1 and 0, Black and White, On and Off, Up and Down, Left and Right... err...
RollingBrass
03-01-2002, 01:47 AM
Now now, gentlemen. Enough with the hostility. How about a nice sauna with some cod? images/icons/grin.gif
The Viper
03-01-2002, 01:48 AM
that's how you see it anyways.

Next you're gonna tell me that character anims in Max look much better than in Ghost Recon, right?
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by The Viper:
that's how you see it anyways.

Next you're gonna tell me that character anims in Max look much better than in Ghost Recon, right?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yup, and the characters in Ghost Recon looks blocky compared to Max's... LMAO images/icons/grin.gif

Rollingbrass: Nah, I'll just roll up a cod and smoke it mon...
The Viper
03-01-2002, 01:53 AM
mmm sauna, sauna is heaven man images/icons/wink.gif

we are not really hostile, it just seems like that images/icons/wink.gif
biXen
03-01-2002, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by The Viper:
mmm sauna, sauna is heaven man images/icons/wink.gif

we are not really hostile, it just seems like that images/icons/wink.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You might not be hostile, but I am... just kidding... graemlins/love.gif
The Viper
03-01-2002, 02:03 AM
love you too codboy graemlins/love.gif
ADM
03-02-2002, 01:43 AM
The bodies in Hitman did move like rag dolls.. they flung everywhere.. It had nice physics in the fact that the bodies could fall of ledges realistically but when they are on the ground and you drag then... their feet could poke out your eyes.
biXen
03-02-2002, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by ADoomedMarine:
The bodies in Hitman did move like rag dolls.. they flung everywhere.. It had nice physics in the fact that the bodies could fall of ledges realistically but when they are on the ground and you drag then... their feet could poke out your eyes.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yup, my point exactly. And the people were as bendy as a Russian 14 year old gymnasist... (sp?)
Crim
03-02-2002, 06:20 AM
Contra had the best animations EVER!! Remember how the guy did those crazy somersault jumps when you pressed that jump button? Max wouldnt be able to pull those off even in his next re incarnation as a gibbon. images/icons/shocked.gif
biXen
03-02-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Crim:
Contra had the best animations EVER!! Remember how the guy did those crazy somersault jumps when you pressed that jump button? Max wouldnt be able to pull those off even in his next re incarnation as a gibbon. images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Contra? WTF are you talking about?