What do you do for a living? [Archive]

Vivi

07-11-2007, 04:00 PM

In this thread, we talk about where we are in our lives. What do you guys do for a living? Do you go to school? What do you plan on doing in the upcoming years?

A few weeks ago, I started college. So far it's pretty simple and I'm enjoying it very much (and I recommend it to ALL). Just a few days ago, I got a part time job working for a company that does contract work for ComCast cable. I'm the office gimp... filing papers, putting together notebooks, typing up documents and printing, running general maintenance on computers, etc etc...

In a month or so, I'll be getting my first apartment with my girlfriend of soon to be 8 months. This is a pivotal part of my life and I've never been happier. College, new job, new place... I'm nervous, but really excited.

My hopes and dreams are to one day move on to maybe a Film School, but I definitely want to transfer after I'm done at this college. I'm not sure what I want to major in yet, but right now I'm having the most fun in my English Composition and Rhetoric class. My dream job would be to write screenplays and turn around and direct them into movies. Little by little, I'm getting closer to that dream.

Joe Siegler

07-11-2007, 05:16 PM

I think you know what I do.

Dave-ros

07-11-2007, 05:29 PM

Right now, I work for "HR Direct" (formerly "HR Shared Services", and before that "Personnel Shared Services" -- I've been there about two years and I've lived through both name changes!) at Camden Council in London. It's getting better since the "restructuring" (i.e. layoffs), but it's still hard. And I'm living in London with friends, rather than in (ugh) Worthing with my folks, so at least I'm not a complete nerd! :p

Unfortunately I'm a lazy creature by habit, and what with working 9-5 and having to cook for myself (oh no!), I never have the energy to look for anything better that might allow my BSc and MSc to be put to good use. At the very least, I might take up Japanese lessons, just to be learning... and my dream is to one day not have to work for a living, so I'll have time to write and draw comics again ;)

And yes, I do need a girlfriend :brickwall:

ADM

07-11-2007, 05:35 PM

Web Developer at a Hospital and also study my bachelor of communications at Uni.

Orochi Avlis

07-11-2007, 06:08 PM

Currently at co-op working for the city I live in. Going back to college in September.

Phait

07-11-2007, 07:53 PM

Kevin Wolff

07-11-2007, 08:43 PM

I finished one year of college a few months ago. Currently working as an IT peon until I go back next month.

Towelie2k4

07-11-2007, 09:06 PM

I work in the family business. We sell lollies, ice-creams, milkshakes/thickshakes, slushies, fresh bread, rent DVD's, make fresh Pizza, do computer repair, and have a couple of computers for people to use for internet/gaming/whatever.

It's great working here, it's just a pity I don't get a wage. :(

Phait

07-11-2007, 09:21 PM

Sounds like a... diverse business o_O

Wooloomooloo

07-11-2007, 09:24 PM

I'm an electrical engineer at a small medical equipment company.

Towelie2k4

07-11-2007, 09:41 PM

Sounds like a... diverse business o_O

Yeah, it sure does. :insomnia:

We're in a small rural town though, so the combination doesn't seem quite as strange as it sounds. Just doing whatever we can to try and make some sort of profit.

jimbob

07-12-2007, 01:34 AM

i work at a tire factory, building tire parts.

almost holliday time, time to spend some quality time home alone with my girlfriend. :)

I'm an electrical engineer at a small medical equipment company.
dare i ask at what company?

Yatta

07-12-2007, 01:39 AM

I'm a college student, but some may say I have no life. I want to be a game developer one day but I know it wouldn't be fun unless I had a position like George's, as opposed to the people that operate under him--which means I have to become a lawyer to make money even though the job itself doesn't interest me at all.

Steve

07-12-2007, 01:59 AM

Uni student! I play games to pay me bills. Really :p

crunchy superman

07-12-2007, 05:44 AM

VP of operations in a manufacturing facility. We make parts for all kinds of industries: Military, mining, analytical, power generation, aviation, medical, etc.

Been here for 18 years.

Taril

07-12-2007, 06:53 AM

23 and single for pretty much ever.
I am unemployed right now and living with my parents. I was in college about 3 years ago but I dropped out.
Not really sure what I am going to do in the future just taking it day by day right now.
Hard thing is its difficult to find a job around here probably going to find a school to go back to preferably a technical school cause I hated the college experience so much.

Ivan

07-12-2007, 07:26 AM

College student in Commerce.

Micki!

07-12-2007, 08:24 AM

I just got out of my current highschool, sort of... After Summer break, i'll be there another week, and i'm off...

Then i will be starting on some education-school of a kind, where i might get some more knowledge of picture editing on PC... I had Photoshop in mind, mainly, but they have quite some stuff... Perhaps 3D modelling would be fun too...

Hehe, 3D Octa-Avenger :hhg:

Deftones

07-12-2007, 08:31 AM

I work IT for a large leather goods company.

Thats all you need to know. >_>

avatar_58

07-12-2007, 09:18 AM

IT support for a Children's Aid Society. It's pretty good, nice people and a friendly environment. I'm contracted so it only runs until sometime next month though. After that I'm pretty much SOL, I haven't a clue what I'm going to do.

Whats worse - September is just around the corner. Christ. I wanted to at least take a few months off to relax, but the start of most college courses is coming up.

Phait

07-12-2007, 09:48 AM

(Off-topic but I can't help but think your avatar is some mutant shrimp :D)

ShadeEX

07-12-2007, 09:52 AM

Nothing right now...

But I'm going too look..

Scream

07-12-2007, 10:21 AM

LAN Admin for a hydro-electric utility.

mysteryperfecta

07-12-2007, 10:44 AM

In a month or so, I'll be getting my first apartment with my girlfriend of soon to be 8 months.

Hope you and your g/f are 'meant to be', but if your 8 month relationship doesn't become a 20 month relationship, it's going to cause a real lease nightmare. Seen it happen, so I wish you luck. :)

So I'm definitely not where I wanted to be 2, 4, 6 years ago. I'm 24 and I feel very behind my peers.

I know a guy who's your age, and has kind of meandered from menial job to menial job while tooling around in some local bands. He just now decided to really commit to his dreams and go to a music school on the west coast.

So don't despair. Your life could easily be radically different 2, 4, 6 years from now. You could get a degree at a 4 year school and be two years into a graphic design career, and you'd only be 30. Whatever you decide to do, it just takes one heartfelt leap.

I'm a residential remodeler. It's not what I set out to do, but I've got a family of my own now, so I'm putting forth the effort necessary to be successful.

Phait

07-12-2007, 10:47 AM

Thanks. I pretty much hope to have my life/career settled at least knee-deep by 30.

Sang

07-12-2007, 10:57 AM

Still attending high school ;) Well, not right now, 2 month break \o/

What I want to do in the future? Well when I go to university I'd like to follow one of those gaming-related courses but a big part of me thinks it's a waste of time. So I'll probably do something that still interests me, but which isn't gaming.. a hard task but I'll worry about that when it's time ;)

DavoX

07-12-2007, 11:12 AM

Nothing.

I have a hard time working. I guess I hate work. I left a retail job in November after 8 months, didn't get one until... June, and was stocking shelves - but felt I was underpayed for busting my back. Left that after 2 days. Been pretty demotivated ever since.

So I'm definitely not where I wanted to be 2, 4, 6 years ago. I'm 24 and I feel very behind my peers. I know what I want to do for career/long term (graphic design) but I've got to start at so-so jobs for awhile and get a damn car.

2 days ago after looking back at my depressing slump I decided to get in gear, started working out and now to apply for jobs again and hopefully not let myself fall back into that. I guess I just can't grow up.

I was at the exact same situation for the past 5 months, I guess thats why i made so much progress with my duke nukem mod :D.

I'm 21 but i could see myself going that route...I don't want that. that's why i started working out 4 months ago and tried to be more social lately, I'm a very social person but i was kinda "hiding" at home for the first months of this year.

I'm currently studying Comic design, publicitary drawings and characterization.
I plan on going to the fine arts college next year.

Micki!

07-12-2007, 11:16 AM

Comic Design sounds like a cool thing... If there happened to be something like that in my country somewhere (i know there is, just don't know where :o) i'd love to take a look at that...

I want to either make Comics/cartoons, or be a concept Artist one day... :o

DavoX

07-12-2007, 11:18 AM

If you really really really really want it, then start spending hours and hours drawing, practice makes perfect. But don't forget to get a piece of paper, and let your hand draw whatever it wants to draw, don't forget that it should be fun also. Don't let anyone tell you what you should or shouldn't draw.

Micki!

07-12-2007, 11:20 AM

That's pretty much what i do all the time... :o

If you count little sketches with that... If not, i rarely make any serious artwork... Only when i sort of feel like it...
I have a quite big collection of artwork i've done over the years though...

Not many actual "Comics" though... Just drawings :o

avatar_58

07-12-2007, 12:23 PM

Thanks. I pretty much hope to have my life/career settled at least knee-deep by 30.

I don't have the slightest idea how I "settle". I feel the same as you phait, seeing everyone my age (and hell....younger) having successful jobs, college credentials and rewarding relationships. Meanwhile I haven't done shit since leaving high school in 2003. :(

I swear I can't deal with another family member or old friend asking "So what have you been up to, finished school?" and my only answer is "uhh not really". It always amounts to a blank stare because everyone just assumed I'd do well because of my marks and percieved technical knowledge.

IceColdDuke

07-12-2007, 12:32 PM

Marines, my mos is morterman.

mysteryperfecta

07-12-2007, 12:37 PM

I don't have the slightest idea how I "settle". I feel the same as you phait, seeing everyone my age (and hell....younger) having successful jobs, college credentials and rewarding relationships. Meanwhile I haven't done shit since leaving high school in 2003. :(

Believe me, there are tons of people like you. Tons. Some people are just wired differently. Those of us who aren't wired to be really ambitious and driven are just going to have a tougher time. And something I've learned is: there is no switch that flips. There is no point when you automatically become a responsible adult. If you don't make the effort (or external circumstances don't force growth), then a 21 year-old slacker will become a 31 year-old slacker, and then a 41 year-old slacker.

If you're in your 30s+, and are still meandering, then I'd start to worry. There are people I know that I worry about. But if you're in your 20s, its definately not too late to commit to something and become very successful down the road. You have to make it happen, though.

mysteryperfecta

07-12-2007, 12:39 PM

Marines, my mos is morterman.

Marines. Mortarman. That's macho as hell. Do you eat straps of leather and shave with shards of glass?

Dave-ros

07-12-2007, 12:43 PM

I'm nearly in my 30s and I'm still a slacker... should I be worried yet? :o

avatar_58

07-12-2007, 12:45 PM

DavoX

07-12-2007, 12:53 PM

Start dating chicks for fun, that's a good motivator and they know how to take you through the "responsible" path, but try to avoid babies until 30 at least :D

mysteryperfecta

07-12-2007, 01:32 PM

I realized that 2 years ago, and yet nothing has changed. It's like I keep saying "I'll do this" or "One day I'll..." and it never happens.

I have a feeling I'm just going to have to cut this shit out and make some drastic changes. I just wish I had some sort of motivation to push me forward. I mean I look to my cousin, who is younger, and has a kid. Now he has to FORCE himself to find a good job and make something of his life to support his girlfriend and their kid. That is a driving motivation factor.

What do I have, the fear of doing nothing at 30? Thats not much of a reason. Quite frankly without a job I haven't the slightest reason to get out of bed each day.

I sympathize, but geez, you're 21. You're at the earliest stage of adulthood. It's too bad intertia didn't take you from high school to university (or whatever they call it in Canada). It's really tough to get back on track after you've made that decision not to further your education. And if I may go out on a limb, might your parents be the coddling-type? For me, going to college after high school is just what was expected. After graduation, getting a full-time job is simply what you do. After that, it gets tougher.

You need to start with baby steps. Get a job, for one. Certainly you could parlay your IT xp into something more steady, no? Otherwise, cheer up. You've got potential.

avatar_58

07-12-2007, 01:51 PM

mysteryperfecta

07-12-2007, 02:10 PM

Well I did go to college directly after high school, but I did so without any direction. I went to the nearest college and dove right into a course that sounded decent. In the end it just wasn't for me, but I didn't come to this realization until it was too late. I was already in too deep. So after messing up my third semester (but still passing) my mind was all over the place.

The fourth semester was torture, literally. I would end up skipping classes, forgetting to study and it overwhelmed me. I ultimately dropped out of it and while that seemed like an ideal escape, it's now made me realize "Holy shit, I just blew 2 years of my life and have nothing to show for it.

Sorry to hear. In the US, a college degree (in any area of study) can really open doors and increase your worth. But you can still succeed without one. What is mandatory to be successful is to work hard and stick with whatever you do. I hope you find your passion; until then, you would really be doing yourself a disservice by not working to improve your situation financially (by saving and being judicious with your money). If you get a little financial security, you may be more apt to follow a path that involves a little risk (this coming from a risk adverse guy). And REMEMBER, you still very young, career-wise. Plenty of time to figure things out. Just don't dig yourself into a hole now. :)

FireFly

07-12-2007, 02:33 PM

I've just finished my first year at uni, although I worked for about nine months last year in two different jobs; both as a telemarketer. The first was frankly awful - minimum wage, with unrealistic performance targets, doing nothing but phoning number after number trying to get the person on the other end to agree an appointment with Anglian Windows. Strangely, I enjoyed the challenge towards the end, as everything began to fall apart in the call centre and everyone was eventually sacked.

The second job was much better, as I was simply trying to put IT managers, even CEOs of small companies, in touch with software consultants, and I actually had to gather information and writeup each opportunity, submitting it for QA.

I have no idea what I'm going to do when I graduate though, and the idea of doing a 9 to 5 job for the rest of my life seems like a death sentence to me.

gt1750

07-12-2007, 02:38 PM

I study transportation engineering at technical university, currently 3rd year.

There's this little issue with my laziness - if I don't manage to pass two exams and one credit (Physics II, Elasticity and Rigidity, Road Projection) from 2nd year, my studies will be terminated :( :brickwall:

If this happens, I'll have to search for job. With having no specialization/experience from previous education, it's going to be damn hard... :o

Destructor

07-12-2007, 07:45 PM

I did a certificate IT course in 2002, and a 2-year diploma computer systems course from 2003 to early 2006. I struggled somewhat with those but I enjoyed them. But I don't really want a job in the IT sector. It may be comfortable but I don't want to sit in front of computers all day and even though it wouldn't be boring (especially with something challenging like programming or networking) it's something I don't want to get caught up in. I have bigger dreams than that and want to do something creative and which will break me out of my shell, like acting for instance. But so far I haven't done anything about that either and am just coasting. I say I wanna be a rich bastard, but I don't know how I'm going to be just going on like this. Maybe I should do another course, as I do like studying. I was gonna start an Electronics Engineering course this year but I didn't have the money for it at the time because I spent it foolishly on other shit. But that course is not the direction I wanna go in anyway.

Phait

07-12-2007, 08:31 PM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3171/3144315011f5dd7c2a9oqk0.jpg

Syph

07-12-2007, 08:48 PM

I finished high school and never really wanted to go through that crap again. I hated school, more than anyone I know. I had a few short lived jobs until 2004 when I started working in a tinshop, fabricating ductwork and other parts for HVAC type applications.

Sometimes it's ok, most of the time it's sweat inducing, pain in the ass, physical labor. But I like the people I work with for the most part, although all of the original people I started with have quit with the exception of my boss.

So from bottom rung in '04 to next in line in '07... Not doing to bad I guess.

Wooloomooloo

07-12-2007, 09:41 PM

dare i ask at what company? It's a small start-up company in Brazil, so I doubt my answer would be useful. ;)

jimbob

07-13-2007, 01:02 AM

It's a small start-up company in Brazil, so I doubt my answer would be useful. ;)

it is, it was a long shot anyway :p

Mariamus

07-13-2007, 03:03 AM

I take care of my kid while trying to find a job that doesn't suck donkey balls.
It's not like I'm getting paid to watch after you silly kids ;)

MAT

07-13-2007, 04:26 PM

I'm studying electrical-electronics engineering. 3rd year. I like what I learn in books, but I don't know if I'll like the real-life work. Difficult times await.

Hudson

07-13-2007, 04:44 PM

Dairy manager at a local supermarket. Should be employeed by Baltimore County sometime in the next six months, where i'll kickoff my career in the IT dept.

axion

07-13-2007, 04:48 PM

I'm a student studying Mathematics whose current summer job is installing and servicing irrigation systems. It's long days (usually 10 hours) and I have to get up early, but at least I'm outside all day and getting exercise. There's worse jobs out there for sure.

Steve

07-13-2007, 11:41 PM

Jayne, my partner, is currently at uni and doing well. So well that she doesn't study and waits for the last minute to write her essays. It's really annoying because she's getting, on average, A and Bs and tops marks in exams. I can't damn well do that! I have to study my ass off. But that's cool ;)

What I do for a living? I run a Video game arcade and at Uni part time.

Sang

07-14-2007, 06:32 AM

she doesn't study and waits for the last minute to write her essays. It's really annoying because she's getting, on average, A and Bs and tops marks in exams.

That's insane :o Seems like you have a really intelligent partner..

Dave-ros

07-14-2007, 06:35 AM

If she's so intelligent, what's she doing with Steve... sorry, someone had to make the obvious jibe :hhg:

Simon Charles

07-14-2007, 07:16 AM

I'm a lead for a video game company. The programmers hate it when they see me coming down their aisle because it always means bad news and more work for them.

I love my job. :D

Phait

07-14-2007, 07:18 AM

A lead what? And what company?

Blade Nightflame

07-14-2007, 07:25 AM

If it counts, a growing pixel artist. Maybe once I kick off my lazyness and sharpen up my skills, I'll start working on games (And maybe some to piss off Altered Reality on purpose. :D), 2d ones specifically. :)

Steve

07-14-2007, 07:42 AM

If she's so intelligent, what's she doing with Steve... sorry, someone had to make the obvious jibe :hhg:

STFU :D ;)

JobivanHiob

07-14-2007, 08:58 AM

I'm a agrar technique assistent. But this job is just the start of my career. At the moment i'm cleaning a tool market to get some money in my pocket. In August i go to a job-college to make up my "Fach-Abitur" (it's the second best level of school graduation here in germany.) After i finished the job-college i want to study nature conservation. You see i'm gonna protect and obtain our planet. This is my mission. :)

NetNessie

07-14-2007, 10:20 AM

I just started University, double degree. Nasty stuff. As for a job, my work fluctuates. Most of the time I work as a painter; doing exterior and interior work, building repairs, renovations, etc.

Of course I ultimately want an IT job somewhere down the line, but alas not an option at the moment.

Blade Nightflame

07-14-2007, 10:37 AM

You see i'm gonna protect and obtain our planet. This is my mission. :)

Unless you want Earth No More to happen. :D

JobivanHiob

07-14-2007, 10:56 AM

^:D
No more Earth No More. i hope it never happens.

Kalki

07-14-2007, 01:13 PM

Great, jinx another 3D Realms project why don'tcha

Theseus314

07-15-2007, 06:53 AM

I am a level designer at one of the larger UK independent game developers. It's quite a nice job actually.

Destructor

07-15-2007, 07:18 AM

A lead what?

Tester.

m3kun

07-16-2007, 06:25 PM

widowmaker

07-16-2007, 07:05 PM

I am a level designer.
I was inspired by Duke and Doom and here I am.

Steve

07-16-2007, 09:31 PM

I am a level designer.
I was inspired by Duke and Doom and here I am.

Turok looks awesome btw :)

ShakeItBaby

07-16-2007, 10:56 PM

I just zone out and do ten hours of work a week and then bill forty. I can barely remember any of it. :P

Dave-ros

07-17-2007, 02:10 AM

I was an electrician, but the 70-80 hour weeks away from home were killing me, I live in sheffield but was working in devon, driving 500 miles round trip. So am now unemployed and looking for a new job.
God damn, and I thought my mother had it bad living in Worthing but working up in Surrey. As though living in Worthing wasn't itself enough of a curse :o

Don't they have electricity in Sheffield, then? :p

Destroyer

07-19-2007, 11:41 PM

im a full time student, major in computer Science
currently im a software engineering intern.
I just test software, and make little changes to when asked to.

Over-Kill

07-20-2007, 05:22 AM

I'm still a student, finished 7th grade. I am thinking of going to study architecture.

oak man

07-20-2007, 01:13 PM

Student, I'm ready to kick ass and start my Junior Year(11th grade).... God I hate Highskool... I'm a straight C student, 70s all the man!!

Phait

07-21-2007, 05:21 PM

I wrote this in my journal today...

I often wonder why my parents are so proud of me. I know at the heart of it, it's just a quality most parents possess - there's always something to be proud of. The reality is I was a high school failure who had to attain a G.E.D. diploma and spend 4 years toiling about with various creative skills and paths I couldn't quite pin down as a career choice. Until a couple years ago, when I realised my confidence is highly concentrated in graphic and webdesign, which presented me with a clear career choice that I intend to pursue. Unfortunately, I've had very little experience with employment. I have had 2 jobs: one I kept 2 months, the other 8 months, within a span of 3 years, and both in the retail industry as a cashier. So I have relatively little experience, and gaps of non-productivity.

What is to be proud of? It must be a riddle I haven't solved yet.

So I keep myself creatively busy with design, and if I feel motivated - I search for another job to plant myself in. I'll be honest, I don't like work. I wonder how people do it... stick themselves in a mundane routine and still want to be alive. What kept me 8 months at the last job were friendly co-workers. They are a big relief, and if you don't have them where you work, I seriously feel for you. I have come to find people really need other people, and this especially applies in our "9 to 5".

Work brings me down. It's probably my attitude at fault, and I don't know how to remedy it. I don't expect or require to earn a high wage - I'm happy if I can feed myself and pay any bills I may have, and have a little left over. I am not a person of excess. However, there is quite a secure feeling in excess of income - you'll have money when you need it most. That's comforting, and that is my financial goal: to always be financially secure.

I'm 24. I still live at home and I feel very behind my peers. They either graduated high school and went on to college to make something of themselves, or stuck with the workforce from high school on up. But me... always grasping and letting go.

And I feel like a complete failure.

A month ago I looked back on the past year, the choices I've made and my general laziness. I looked back remembering where I wanted to be 2 or 4 years ago, and how I haven't accomplished it because I haven't committed to making my goals a reality, or how I spent all my income last year because I had no discipline. I hadn't worked for 3 years, I made money, and I spent it like crazy. It's like if you hadn't eaten in a week and suddenly all the foods you'd desired are foisted upon you. You're not going be moderate, you're to go all out! And that's what I did, and I'm back at square one. I should've been at square 5 right now.

But I've looked back and observed myself - my laziness, the weight I've gained from crappy food, my current circumstances of living at home and not having transportation -- everything all the result of doing absolutely nothing for myself.

I've essentially betrayed myself.

And so, I resolved to amend it all. I began jogging and working out a week ago, and it's going generally well. I've started applying for jobs again. I am starting to take hold of myself and be the person I've always wanted to be - successful. The decision, practically overnight. The results... won't be so swift. Commitment is in order.

As Jerry Maguire said:

And suddenly it was all pretty clear. The answer was fewer clients. Caring for them, caring for ourselves, and the games too. Starting our lives, really. Hey, I'll be the first to admit it. What I was writing was somewhat "touchy feely." I didn't care. I had lost the ability to bullshit.

It was the me I'd always wanted to be.

Destructor

07-21-2007, 08:13 PM

I just zone out and do ten hours of work a week and then bill forty. I can barely remember any of it. :P

You, Sir, are a shining example of easy living! :D

I wrote this in my journal today...

Phait, I think that maybe you've got to be slightly more ambitious. Don't say that you just want enough money to feed yourself, to be financially secure and maybe have the odd one or two luxury. No, say to yourself you want to be rich! Go for the whole hog, so to speak. And then when you do get a good job you can tone it down and be satisfied. But until then you've got to be not so desperate. Have faith that your dreams will come true one day. After all, when you do get a job, it's not like your whole life will become complete. It never does really. You will still have to be wise on how you handle your money, etc. So, yeah. For now, aim for the sky. That's what I say to myself to keep me positive anyway. And keeping positive is the key. :)

DavoX

07-21-2007, 08:15 PM

You know what you have to do to be sucessfull? Kill the little boy inside of you. KILL HIM.

Phait

07-21-2007, 08:17 PM

Well I'm thinking realistically, I don't have much confidence in making myself a big financial success. It takes little for me to be content, and I think that's a good thing - then I don't have to let myself down by not getting what I want (excess).

Dave-ros

07-21-2007, 08:21 PM

I think I know where you're coming from, Phait -- I feel like my life's been a waste of time too, as I've got a BSc and an MSc, yet I'm working in a low-paid stressful HR job and renting a place with friends, and I'm nearly 30! I have dreams of doing comic strips, but even if I do, it'll just be amusement for people on teh Intarnetz unless Stan Lee happens to come across it and thinks I'm the next big thing, which is unlikely :(

Right now, I think my best prospect would be to marry a rich woman and become a house husband :p

DavoX

07-21-2007, 09:05 PM

But thinking "My life's been a waste of time" won't get you a rich woman :P

Destructor

07-22-2007, 02:27 AM

You know what you have to do to be sucessfull? Kill the little boy inside of you. KILL HIM.

Well, I don't know about that. What do you mean by this little boy anyway? Care to elaborate a bit more on what you said?

For me to get slightly more hyped up for success, financial success that is, I listen to rap albums and try to sort of have the 'gangsta' hip-hop image. Lately, I've been thinking of getting some cheap bling-bling jewlerry off eBay in order to do that. You know, maybe a watch with a spinning dollar sign on the front of it and maybe a big dollar sign pendant. Then I can walk down the street with the stuff on feeling like a million bucks. I should probably get myself some new threads aswell as I don't buy clothes much. Last time I bought an article of clothing was in 2004, which was a 50 Cent jumper that I still wear occasionally. Not that I'm a big 50 Cent fan though. Also, I should get myself a new, proper pair of shades as my current ones are just cheap plastic with cracks in it.

Another thing I want to do for personal pride is bulk up and get a really good physique. Then I can go down the street looking like Duke Nukem, winking at the ladies. :cool:

Well I'm thinking realistically, I don't have much confidence in making myself a big financial success. It takes little for me to be content, and I think that's a good thing - then I don't have to let myself down by not getting what I want (excess).

Yes, I understand your reasoning behind it, and like your average Joe, you just want your fair slice. Heck, I just want my fair slice too. But in order to get that fair slice I think you have to be a bit greedy in a way. I mean, once you've got that good job, even if it's just a low income job but still nice and satisfying, you can rest on your financial laurels so to speak. There is more to life than money after all. But until then, while your still your unemployed, you've got to get motivated and let's face it, money is a good motivator. You can harp on about how much you love art or whatever and wish you were employed as a graphics guy or whatever till your blue in the face. But until you combine that with a desire to make a living it will just remain a nice dream that's not neccessary to fulfill. But when it's a thing you have to do in order to live the life you want to live, then you will got for it with a stronger intent. Work to live, not live to work as they say.

I think I know where you're coming from, Phait -- I feel like my life's been a waste of time too, as I've got a BSc and an MSc, yet I'm working in a low-paid stressful HR job and renting a place with friends, and I'm nearly 30! I have dreams of doing comic strips, but even if I do, it'll just be amusement for people on teh Intarnetz unless Stan Lee happens to come across it and thinks I'm the next big thing, which is unlikely :(

One thing I notice about you, Dave-ros, is your rarely satisfied. Your always joking around that you haven't got a girlfriend yet or what-have-you, and while that's good to let out your stress and not to take life to seriously, you don't seem to be making much progress. I think what you have to do is get a bit more serious about your life, not so much you get depressed and negative of course, but just enough to get you more motivated. Also, maybe you need to make some other changes somehow. Work hard at getting into a different career or something, and out of that stuffy office. Stop being so nice to the ladies too.

In the end though, rarely any of us are 100% satisfied with life. Even the rap artists just probably go through the ordinary banal routine way of life when they're away from the recording studio. But we can go about things in such a way where we will rarely whinge because we are self-confident and constantly making changes to live in more harmony with ourselves and what-have-you. Ironically, the most improtant thing is to minimize resistance. But yeah. :)

Mister_Anderson

07-22-2007, 02:28 AM

It takes little for me to be content, and I think that's a good thing - then I don't have to let myself down by not getting what I want (excess).

It is a good thing. Im of a similar mindset.

My manager (and good friend) has just bought a newsagency & is essentially now working 7 days a week. Hes doing it to make money, which is understandable. To me its just plumb loco - I crave my free time...it more precious to me than money.

Im managing to live comfortably, I don't require travel overseas but because my wife likes it, we do. I'd be quite happy to stay at home & veg out...thats my idea of a holiday.

Just do whatever makes you happy.

Right now, I think my best prospect would be to marry a rich woman and become a house husband

Dude, I think you should reach for that dream! I think it achieveable, it might be a huge challenge....but I certainly don't think its impossible. You only said rich too, so as long as you aren't too picky & want a supermodel, because that will add immeasurably to the challenge. Used to work with a guy whos wife earned twice what he did, when they had a kid he stayed at home to look after the children...it was what he wanted to do. Theres certainly no shame in it...whoever earns the most should be the one to work & the other can take care of the house & kids.

And don't worry about the naysayers....it clear they often don't know shit because they've never experienced it!

Dave-ros

07-22-2007, 05:28 AM

Destructor, you're right about many things, but not this:
Stop being so nice to the ladies too.
If it weren't for the 5char thing, I'd have simply quoted this and said "?" Are we getting back into that Simon Charles-initiated debate about being a "nice guy"? As I remember, he wasn't slagging off guys who are simply nice to girls, he was slagging off pathetic, simpering doormats with no self-confidence. You can be confident in yourself and yet not treat girls like dirt and tell them they like it. Sorry, but I'd rather remain single for the time being than only get a girl by negative "conquest" means ;)

And Mister Anderson (me tries to avoid Agent Smith voice :p), I agree about free time being more precious than money. There have been times I've been in temp jobs (working at an hourly rate) and I've simply taken time off when there wasn't any work to do, rather than staying in the office doing nothing but getting paid for it. Of course, if I'm the only one in the office and providing coverage until 6pm, I'll just edit Wikipedia instead :p

DavoX

07-22-2007, 10:29 AM

You can be confident in yourself and yet not treat girls like dirt and tell them they like it.

I don't get why people think that stop being nice = be a jerk. Of course it's an easy way to counter an argument but it has no fundament when you look at it deeply.

You see, you are nice because you respect girls, right? Well, if you respected them...you wouldn't bore them to death by being "bad nice". What do i mean by bad nice? I mean overly caring, overly wussy and overly needy. They hate that, period. Ever had a girl telling you that you should be friends? It's because you're being too nice, not only because you're ugly as **** (hey it's not directed to you, i'm speaking in general ;) ).

Then comes the "Real Nice" guy, which is the nice guy all girls talk about and most men misinterpret. The real nice guy is a MAN who knows where he's standing in life, knows what's going on, Knows how to threat her without being a wussy, he respects them of course, he appreciates women, he doesn't threat them like "dirt", but he gives her what women likes the most, passion, adventure, special moments (no, not a poem in the friggin beach under the stars), and sometimes...a little bit of danger like "hey...not here, someone could see us" ;), And most importantly, he is confindent about himself, he has a path in life, he has a GOAL and he's CHARGING towards it.

So stop being so caritative, sending her poems, giving her presents because that will only make you her friend or boytoy, harsh right? but unfortunately the truth. I wish it was as easy as threating someone overly well and then bang, you're in bed. But it's not like that, no matter how many times you try to state the opposite.

On the other hand, you COULD do it...but...how long is it going to last until the REAL NICE guy comes and bangs her skull?.

@Destructor: What I meant by that is that you should become a man, get a good job or at least start studying to get a real career, it's never too late to study again. Then stop worrying about many banal things like "oh man i must level up today when i get home" and stuff like that...basically kill the little boy inside of you and finally become a man.

Phait

07-22-2007, 10:37 AM

he respects them of course, he appreciates women, he doesn't threat them like "dirt"

I wish it was as easy as threating someone overly well and then bang, you're in bed.

Heh...

Dave-ros

07-22-2007, 11:18 AM

DavoX, the stuff you're talking about is the "doormat" stuff I meant, i.e. overly needy. I don't act that way to my female friends, or to any girl I've dated -- quiet confidence FTW ;)

One thing I'll say is, I'm happy having my female friends as friends and not as lovers (which would feel a bit like incest :o). I won't say "just friends", because to me, there's no "just" about it -- why would a girl I'm close friends with, share secrets with, tell her how I'm feeling etc. be a lesser relationship than a girl I barely know but happen to knock boots with? By that token, all your male friends are "just friends" if you're not sleeping with them... I wonder if Yatta or Wamplet will have something to add there :p

DavoX

07-22-2007, 11:45 AM

Heh...

Oh because with every single female friend you've never had the mere thought of sleeping with them, riiiiiiiight? :D (Good looking ones of course).

Phait

07-22-2007, 11:47 AM

This should be a new thread :o

Aegeri

07-22-2007, 12:47 PM

I'm a scientist researching making new vaccinations.

Zztx

07-22-2007, 05:58 PM

I've been a part-time janitor at the community college I attend since late February, but my position is being axed because of "restructuring."
My ass. That's management speak for "we want more money."

My last day is July 31st, and I need a new job.

Destructor

07-22-2007, 06:03 PM

@Destructor: What I meant by that is that you should become a man, get a good job or at least start studying to get a real career, it's never too late to study again. Then stop worrying about many banal things like "oh man i must level up today when i get home" and stuff like that...basically kill the little boy inside of you and finally become a man.

Ah okay, I see what you mean. It's all about having the right priorities I suppose.

Destructor, you're right about many things, but not this:

If it weren't for the 5char thing, I'd have simply quoted this and said "?" Are we getting back into that Simon Charles-initiated debate about being a "nice guy"? As I remember, he wasn't slagging off guys who are simply nice to girls, he was slagging off pathetic, simpering doormats with no self-confidence. You can be confident in yourself and yet not treat girls like dirt and tell them they like it. Sorry, but I'd rather remain single for the time being than only get a girl by negative "conquest" means ;)

Ah okay, fair enough. Just thought I'd add that in just in case because I do know you have female "friends", which is sometimes considered a no-no in the world of getting laid. :)

Phait

07-22-2007, 06:10 PM

8IronBob

07-22-2007, 06:17 PM

Mleh, I'm a proof machine operator at a big-brand bank that's HQ'd in the area. Not to say that it pays that much, but at least it'll be something to hold me so I can get myself into other things down the road.

Zztx

07-22-2007, 06:18 PM

I wouldn't mind working in a video rental, except that all the video rentals around here are Movie Galleries.

The problem with that being, Movie Gallery sucks. There's New Releases, Porn, and everything else, or "Gallery." Total lack of organization, save for alphabetizing. The selection is generally terrible, and I doubt there's any demand for it to be better given that I live in a freaking hick county. I'd be like Randal Graves working at one of those places.

But hey, a job's a job.

Phait

07-22-2007, 06:24 PM

I have to continually remind myself that I hate job hunting that when someone who hasn't seen me in awhile asks "where are you working?" and I have no answer. So next time, I stick it out at a job I don't like until I find another one instead of being dormant again. It's just soooooooo hard, you know - that kinda energy/anxiousness to leave you can feel it in your body and time begins to crawl because you just don't want to be there AHHH THE PRESSURE. And then I crumble and quit without 2 week notice.

Destructor

07-22-2007, 07:28 PM

One thing that pisses me off in jobs ads is the unnecessary use of the words 'technician' or 'engineer' just to be politically correct. Janitor isn't used anymore, it's something like 'custodial technician'. Anyway, other positions that use these words make me think "ok, there is quite some experience and knowledge needed in this position, and I don't have that" and I skip it - when it could be something as easy as cleaning dishes but they don't say outright cause they have to be so PC :tinyted:

Heh, I came across a job titled something 'technician' and when I clicked on it it was just an ad for a sandwhich maker. Thinking that would be easy I applied. But when a lady rang me up about it she said she was looking for people with at least one years experience of making ******* sandwhiches! I mean, it can't be that hard can it!? :doh:

Phait

07-22-2007, 07:34 PM

That's roflsome ^

DavoX

07-22-2007, 08:23 PM

Heh, I came across a job titled something 'technician' and when I clicked on it it was just an ad for a sandwhich maker. Thinking that would be easy I applied. But when a lady rang me up about it she said she was looking for people with at least one years experience of making ******* sandwhiches! I mean, it can't be that hard can it!? :doh:

I hope you lied at least, to try.

Destructor

07-22-2007, 08:52 PM

I hope you lied at least, to try.

Nah, I didn't unfortuantely. :o

Also, it wasn't ordinary experience she was after. No, it was commercial/ industry experience. :dopefish:

DavoX

07-22-2007, 09:52 PM

Destructor

07-22-2007, 10:54 PM

Commercial/industry experience on making sandwiches? You mean putting them into bags and stuff? The 1 year experience is still ridiculous, 1 month or 2 would be TOO much asking IMO. since everyone would learn the process in a day or two, and get really good at it by the end of the week.

Those were exactly my thoughts. You can't help but feel society is built on a pile of shit sometimes. :mad:

The reason for it is probably part-time working Mums trying to feel more important than they really are. What they don't realize is looking after the kids is important enough. They always have to compete with the men for some reason.

Dave-ros

07-23-2007, 02:52 AM

Ah okay, fair enough. Just thought I'd add that in just in case because I do know you have female "friends", which is sometimes considered a no-no in the world of getting laid. :)
Are you kidding? Having lots of female friends shows what a sensitive, caring guy you are, who doesn't sleep around and must therefore be seeking that one special person. Chicks really dig that :D

And yes, every evening the sanitation engineers go along our street :p

TerminX

07-23-2007, 03:13 AM

Commercial game development.

helious

07-23-2007, 05:38 AM

I own a Company i started a year ago.
We already have several employees.

We make high quality innovative Fashion accessories for Men and Women.
Really cool bracelets with changeable aluminium badges on top of them, that you can design for your self.

For example with your favorite videogame logo. :)
Its extremely high quality and relies on Danish design. Every one of them are hand sewn in denmark.

Check it out:

http://www.muwo.dk

Remember, newest flash player for your browser is required.

Phait

07-23-2007, 08:51 AM

Commercial game development.

What? Since when? With who? I don't remember that fro #3DR...

thefly

07-23-2007, 01:10 PM

Accounting work.

DavoX

07-23-2007, 09:53 PM

Are you kidding? Having lots of female friends shows what a sensitive, caring guy you are, who doesn't sleep around and must therefore be seeking that one special person. Chicks really dig that :D

Only if you want to be their friend...But let's not start that discussion again :D

Mister_Anderson

07-23-2007, 10:15 PM

And you've just bought it up again :rolleyes:

Doesn't anyone have the smarts to walk away from this sort of rubbish anymore? :doh:

Heres a crazy idea....how about we let the thread be about what people do for a living again?

Destructor

07-24-2007, 12:46 AM

Heres a crazy idea....how about we let the thread be about what people do for a living again?

Yes, Mister_Anderson. Whatever you say, Mister_Anderson. :rolleyes:

We don't seem to get along do we? :o :)

MegaMustaine

07-24-2007, 01:18 AM

I'm in my 4th year as a Speech Com major at Colorado State University. Currently working as an intern selling life insurance at Northwestern Mutual Financial Network.

ShakeItBaby

07-24-2007, 02:41 AM

We don't seem to get along do we? :o :)

Ever heard the analogy of the man who got chewed out by his boss coming home and yelling at his wife who then nagged their son who then went and kicked the dog? :p

Destructor

07-24-2007, 03:51 AM

Ever heard the analogy of the man who got chewed out by his boss coming home and yelling at his wife who then nagged their son who then went and kicked the dog? :p

Zing! :D

Took a while for me to get that actually. :)

ShakeItBaby

07-24-2007, 03:59 AM

Took a while for me to get that actually. :)

;)

Just realized I'd better add something somewhat relevant to the topic so as not to raise the ire of certain overly emasculated individuals who, adhering to the utmost respect afforded by this forum, shall remain nameless: my best mate's sister's husband is lead musician in a band. :cool:

Raiden93

07-24-2007, 06:59 PM

I work at the EB games down the highway from my house, and I like it alot when we're not busy cause I can sneak play on the PS3 :p

Kevin Wolff

07-24-2007, 07:32 PM

What? Since when? With who? I don't remember that fro #3DR...
Heck, I don't remember him doing anything....

Damien_Azreal

07-24-2007, 07:44 PM

I design tattoos, business cards and logos... shit like that.

Phait

07-24-2007, 07:51 PM

^ For a living? I didn't know that.

The Baskinator

07-24-2007, 08:05 PM

I'm working a crappy retail job, living alone, and putting myself through university. I'm supposed to finish my B.A. next year, and then I'll start work on my M.A. right after that.

Steve

07-25-2007, 01:37 AM

I design tattoos, business cards and logos... shit like that.

That's cool :)

Phait

07-25-2007, 01:19 PM

I have a job interview tomorrow for a hotel, and I only handed in the application yesterday. Yay.

Mister_Anderson

07-25-2007, 06:04 PM

Remember to try and be positive & upbeat in your interview Phait, even if it isn't your dream job. In fact it should make it easier for you if it isn't, so you should be more relaxed come interview.

I still think you should be focusing all your energy into GD, but if you can turn this new position into a positive experience it will still be of great help to you.

Good luck.

Phait

07-25-2007, 06:08 PM

I could focus all my energy into design but I'm several skills short, especially in knowledge and that's what I'm looking at school for. No reason to sell myself if I'm only partially capable.

All my interviews go pretty well, I'm honest about my mistakes when asked and I think people get the point I take measures to amend those and improve.

DavoX

07-25-2007, 06:27 PM

If it's a hotel then you need to show confidence and give them a good smile, show them that you can interact with people.

Destructor

07-25-2007, 06:33 PM

Remember to try and be positive & upbeat in your interview Phait, even if it isn't your dream job. In fact it should make it easier for you if it isn't, so you should be more relaxed come interview.

I've had interviews where I didn't give a flying **** if i got the job or not but I still got nervous as hell. The reason being is because I was so concerned about performing well (i.e answering questions in a very articulate manner) I couldn't relax at all. What I'm going to do in my next one is just concentrate solely on feeling relaxed and being at ease with myself and not give one whit of attention to what I say, or how I sit or whatever. I think I'll do better that way, just being natural. :)

Phait

07-25-2007, 06:39 PM

Don't stress over how you answer questions and react. I hate "um's" and blank stares of a few seconds like anyone, but hey we're human. The best you can do is be prepared for questions you didn't know how to answer previously - a big one I get is "why do you think you'd be a good choice for our company?".

If you research who you're applying for before the interview - i.e. you know what their business is about, what your position entails to - and then look at your past experience and see how that knowledge/experience can help you be a good asset, you'll have answers.

Hudson

07-25-2007, 06:41 PM

I wrote this in my journal today...

Phait, honestly man just kick yourself in the ass and dive in head first. I was almost in the same situation you're in now, and i've made a lot of progress since then. Sure, it took a year.. however I look back now and the difference i've made makes me proud.

Phait

07-25-2007, 06:44 PM

That's what I've done, and that's why I've got an interview tomorrow. :)

Destructor

07-25-2007, 11:10 PM

Don't stress over how you answer questions and react. I hate "um's" and blank stares of a few seconds like anyone, but hey we're human.

Actually, I thinks it's sometimes better to say shit without the ums and ahhs and hesitation rather than being Mr. Fidget saying good stuff. Of course, balance is the key. If you interviewer is really listening to you then what you say better be at least half-decent. But if he or she is not, and is just looking at the image you project, shit confident turds all the way, baby! :cool::p

The best you can do is be prepared for questions you didn't know how to answer previously - a big one I get is "why do you think you'd be a good choice for our company?".

Yeah, I know, I know. Doing your homework can pay off dividends. But doing that and going in looking like you're on drugs probably won't seal the deal. :o

That's what I've done, and that's why I've got an interview tomorrow. :)

Good work. :)

ShakeItBaby

07-26-2007, 12:35 AM

Some amusing anecdotes:

At one of my past jobs where I was a team leader, I once interviewed an older guy who was all stammering and nerves and spilled water glasses. But under all that, he came across as truly genuine and I told the boss to hire him. Great decision, he turned out to be a solid performer for the company.

Then for another position at the same place, I interviewed this silky smooth bullshit artist who had a great confident-sounding performance but who tried to bluff his way past the tough questions. I recommended to the boss not to hire him, but the boss ended up doing so anyway. The guy turned out to be as crap at his work as I'd predicted, a brown-nosing handballer that nobody respected except for the boss.

Thriller

07-26-2007, 10:02 AM

Right now, im doing nothing. :|
I´ll start studying again, so atleast now I have a goal in mind.

Problem is, im now 23, and since a graduated (19) I´ve pretty much done foru years of nothing. 8 different jobs that wasnt right. Two two-year-long releationships that wasnt right (pretty much the biggest factor in my "do nothing" lifestyle).

When I finaly broke up with my last girlfriend a few months ago I crashed. Problem was, in the last two years I had a girlfriend who was hot, had good sex, I lot of romantik moments but nothing else. Nothing that would make me grow. More like slowing me down.

Meanwhile, most of my friends who was "fortunate" enough not to meet a girl or smart enought not to let their own dreams fall really made something of their lifes, on their terms.

So yeah, I know, im still "only" 23, and still have time. I just didnt think I would spend 4 years of doing pretty much nothing. :(

Phait

07-26-2007, 11:24 AM

I just got back from my interview with the hotel. It was nice, the lady in charge is nice but you can tell she wants her employees to do very well, it's the hospitality business after all.

It would be night laundry, only Fri and Sat @ 8.50/hour. I'm happy with that pay, but the hours... I'm in a bit of dilemma. I am looking for full-time work, so I don't want to accept the job only to leave after weeks if I find a fulltime job. I suppose I could keep a 6 month stint at minimum and work 3 days at another job... but both would be part time and I'd prob. miss out on fulltime benefits.

I have noticed in my interviews I have gotten quicker to respond to questions, not a lot of thinking on my part, I know how to answer things. This is a great quality. The hardest questions poised upon me were - what would I do in an emergency situation? Night laundry person is the ONLY person in charge there at night. Nobody is at front desk I guess? She asked if a lady came down the elevator hysterical because there was a fire, what would I do? She gave me actual scenarios that have happened. In this case, some guest left a hot dog on a pan and it burnt up, billowing smoke out their room door ajar. Someone thought it was a serious fire, it wasn't even a fire - and the fire dept. was really dissapointed.

Another case was they had a gang fight on the 3rd floor, what do I do if I see a fight? I thought she meant argument-fight, which I tend to intervene calmly - but she was talking people with knives and wounds... :o or what if a customer said he couldn't breathe and his chest hurt? These are think quick scenarios and I didn't have a quick answer besides the obvious 911, but that usually wasn't my immediate choice - it was assess then respond... ugh. These things don't happen often, but they DO happen, and I'd really, really hate to not be prepared.

She mentioned they have a lot of guests during the EAA Airventure airshow going on yearly this month, I remarked that's my favorite time of the year, I went to the show last year. She then offered me FREE TICKETS :o I politely refused, cause I can't get around on my own and its half hour drive and I would hate to spring it upon my dad "hey we're going to the airshow, btw you doing anything today?" :D

She showed me the small laundry room and we talked more about the position and she offered me once again for the tickets but I again politely refused. I can always go next year. If I do take the job I'm sure she'll give me some next year.

8IronBob

07-26-2007, 05:11 PM

Well, here in the Cleveland area, most schools and businesses are promoting medicine and healthcare. That could wind up being a big thing here in the Midwest after a while. Even tho I'd love a job working with 1s and 0s, I'm guessing that a lot of hospitals may need some IT training to keep records and computer technology in check. I probably could get into that more than ever, we'll see... It's probably gonna be far better than encoding checks and doing boring bank operations, lemme tell ya.

Mister_Anderson

07-26-2007, 05:23 PM

Well Phait if you are offered the position now, you will have to weigh up all the good & bad points and decide if its worth it or not.

The mere mention of a gang knife fight made an excamation point appear over my head. Something like that is enough to turn me off completely, even if they were paying $30 an hour. My life is worth infinately more than that. But thats just me, if you think you can work there knowing the possibility that it might happen again, then go for it.

I personally would stay away.

Dave-ros

07-26-2007, 05:27 PM

My work might be getting better tomorrow: my boss has managed to get me access to the Word templates we use every day to generate letters. Now, aside from phone numbers needing to be updated and references to prepaid envelopes needing to be removed, the documents themselves are, to use the technical term, b0rked and in need of a thorough going-over by someone who thinks of Word as something other than a prettier version of Notepad ;)

Jeff

07-29-2007, 10:53 AM

Deliver mail to the people that work at city hall.

Thief

08-01-2007, 05:34 PM

Full-time Testing Analyst for Canada Revenue Agency (Gov't).

Been working there slightly over a year. I'm only 22, but I earned this job. Took endless tests over a year and a half. The first part of the test had 2,000+ applicants. Sold myself well at the interview, told a few jokes, and at the end of the interview when they ask if you have any questions, always have something ready. They'll never completely cover everything over a 5-10 minute interview.

Cash flow is nice, but I do miss having the summer off. May never happen again... :(

Phait

08-01-2007, 06:08 PM

All I'm seeing at this point in online job ads is crap like WORK FROM HOME! BE PAID TO TAKE SURVEYS! BE A SECRET RETAIL SHOPPER!

I think I'll just jump off a bridge :p

DavoX

08-01-2007, 07:15 PM

BTW Phait, how did that interview go? :p

Phait

08-01-2007, 07:22 PM

It went well but I didn't get a call back, probably cause I didn't know what to do in emergency situations. I didn't want it cause of that, and it was 2 days/wk.

ShakeItBaby

08-01-2007, 08:10 PM

Destructor

08-01-2007, 09:30 PM

My main job is Oracle software development over the net. I currently work from home, but my wife and I want to see the world a bit, so I'll soon be roaming around coffee shops and libraries in Britain and Europe and doing my work on the wireless laptop while sitting in various scenic locales drinking coffee and eating exotic meals.

Whilist getting RSI. (Laptops aren't as ergonomic as desktops).

By the way, I did work experience programming/maintaining an Oracle server. It was Linux based and pretty damn fun. Don't know if I'd want a career doing that sort of thing though. Speaking of programming, I haven't written code for more than half a year now. :insomnia:

ShakeItBaby

08-02-2007, 12:41 AM

Whilist getting RSI. (Laptops aren't as ergonomic as desktops).

True, that has concerned me. I might lug it around in a shoulderbag that's big enough to store my USB keyboard in it as well, or buy one of those foldable keyboards.

Destructor

08-02-2007, 02:01 AM

True, that has concerned me. I might lug it around in a shoulderbag that's big enough to store my USB keyboard in it as well, or buy one of those foldable keyboards.

Getting one of these (http://www.standit.com/) might be a good idea too. :)

Dave-ros

08-02-2007, 02:31 AM

So, ShakeItBaby, you're vicariously responsible for the place I work using Oracle, the dreadful, buggy, overbloated piece of rubbish that it is? In that case, I will vicariously beat the stuffing out of you :p

Phait

08-02-2007, 02:34 AM

And then feed it to the children \o/

ShakeItBaby

08-02-2007, 06:16 AM

I program with Oracle, not for Oracle. Besides, it works just fine if you have the SKILL to make it work bwahahahaha!

ShakeItBaby

08-02-2007, 06:19 AM

Getting one of these (http://www.standit.com/) might be a good idea too. :)

Hey thanks, I will definitely consider that.

Dave-ros

08-02-2007, 11:54 AM

Fair enough -- but on that topic, I'm pretty sure the people who administer Oracle at my workplace only know the basics, and probably have so much work to do just keeping the whole tottering edifice from collapsing entirely that they can't work in any improvements. Maybe you should pay them a visit when you're on this side of the pond ;)

Kennerado

08-03-2007, 05:16 AM

I work in tech support for an Aussie ISP.

Bud Bundy

08-04-2007, 04:51 PM

Trainee management assistant in wholesale and foreign trade, so nothing special.
A lil bit boring ^^

Simon Charles

08-04-2007, 04:56 PM

Tester.

No. I started in QA like everyone else but I'm now a TEAM lead, thank you. I teach the noobs how it's done, bully the programmers and make everyone's day a living hell. I love my job.

I recently saw a guy in interview here at work. He was my former boss from another company and a real pain in the ass. Psycho, stressed out, dangerous, frightning (the kind of guy who says he's coming in for us next monday with a shotgun), a nuisance to any team and treated me like dirt. I told the HR girl not to hire him and she didn't. So be nice to your coworkers. You never know when you'll meet them further up the ladder.

I'm also a writer. I've got two publishing contracts under my belt so far, and more are on the way. My first book's coming out this fall.

8IronBob

08-04-2007, 05:47 PM

No. I started in QA like everyone else but I'm now a TEAM lead, thank you. I teach the noobs how it's done, bully the programmers and make everyone's day a living hell. I love my job.

I recently saw a guy in interview here at work. He was my former boss from another company and a real pain in the ass. Psycho, stressed out, dangerous, frightning (the kind of guy who says he's coming in for us next monday with a shotgun), a nuisance to any team and treated me like dirt. I told the HR girl not to hire him and she didn't. So be nice to your coworkers. You never know when you'll meet them further up the ladder.

I'm also a writer. I've got two publishing contracts under my belt so far, and more are on the way. My first book's coming out this fall.

Name of your book, please, so I can keep an eye out for preorders?

Simon Charles

08-04-2007, 05:57 PM

Name of your book, please, so I can keep an eye out for preorders?

The most beautiful girls read Asimov but you can't preorder. Limited print, local distribution, french only. Sorry. Still, you'll get pics of the book singing due next October. ;) :D

ShadeEX

08-04-2007, 06:16 PM

My plan right now is either fixing computers..

Or design some stuff like logos, tattos & other undecided stuff..

Maybe a combination of the two..

Destructor

08-05-2007, 02:31 AM

No. I started in QA like everyone else but I'm now a TEAM lead, thank you. I teach the noobs how it's done, bully the programmers and make everyone's day a living hell. I love my job.

So, you don't do any actual testing yourself anymore? :confused:

I recently saw a guy in interview here at work. He was my former boss from another company and a real pain in the ass. Psycho, stressed out, dangerous, frightning (the kind of guy who says he's coming in for us next monday with a shotgun), a nuisance to any team and treated me like dirt. I told the HR girl not to hire him and she didn't.

What goes around comes around, huh? :)

The most beautiful girls read Asimov

You'd know wouldn't you? ;)

What is your book actually about?

Simon Charles

08-05-2007, 11:53 AM

Simon Charles

08-05-2007, 11:58 AM

Simon Charles

08-05-2007, 12:01 PM

So, you don't do any actual testing yourself anymore? :confused:

Yeah, but a lot of other things too. Regular testers usually don't go in conference calls with the devs. ;) Gotta be polyvalent in multimedia.

What goes around comes around, huh? :)

It wasn't me exacting revenge on a former boss. I didn't go out of my way to trash-talk him behind his back. I told the HR girl how it was and that's it. The guy was stressed out, dangerous, and would have been a bad asset for any team.

You'd know wouldn't you? ;)

What is your book actually about?

Well, actually, the main character would know, not me. :D And no, it's not some lame "self-fiction". If you write about yourself and then just change the names, that's cheating the reader. It's legitimate fiction. Purely invented.

It's about a journalist talking about his wife and daughter. It touches topics such as lack of emotions, alcoholism, stuff like that. I played with seemingly mundane details such as water and the guy having lost his thirst for life, the absence of feelings (supported by the absence of "emotionnal punctuation"), etc. I never thought I could write a whole book without a single question mark or exclamation point but I managed.

I learned a lot while writing this book. While it's still on the beginner's level, there were a lot of good twists I was proud of. I pulled off a triple narration with three different characters all meshed into one and crammed a lot of meat into what deceptively looks like an empty book. Early reads from people have said they were flabbergasted at the amount of content that "hits" them after they've put the book down. You feel you've read something hollow and empty, but only after finishing the last page does it actually hit you. That's why nearly everyone who's read it so far have said the same thing : it's got insane "replay value". They've read it two and sometimes three times and there's still stuff to be discovered, which I consider a victory. I managed to veil an insane amount of complex content behind a simplistic decorum.

I don't really know if I can call myself a "writer". Even though I've started making money off my writings, it's still chump change and can't be considered a career. But I love it all the same, even if I know it won't sell a damn copy. I pitched that project to I don't know how many publishers and I got rejected every single time for four years straight. And then when you're ready to give up and burn your manuscript because you think it's a piece of shit and everyone else is right, suddently it finds its home, and a flock of people embrace it as being the best thing they've read in ages. Go figure.

I've had one guy hogging the manuscript at a party while I was at a friend's house. He couldn't put it down even with all the beer and music going on. One other guy read it twice in a row and called it 'absolutely magical'. A girl had sex with me after reading it. And one other guy actually read the entire book to his friends over the phone.

I swear, I don't even want to know what will happen once the damn thing actually goes on sale. I might get mauled to death by nymphos or something.

ShakeItBaby

08-05-2007, 05:32 PM

I recently saw a guy in interview here at work. He was my former boss from another company and a real pain in the ass. Psycho, stressed out, dangerous, frightning (the kind of guy who says he's coming in for us next monday with a shotgun), a nuisance to any team and treated me like dirt. I told the HR girl not to hire him and she didn't. So be nice to your coworkers. You never know when you'll meet them further up the ladder.

Heh, I had that pleasure once. Used to have an ass of a boss who, as an example, once spilled the coffee tin on the floor and then told one of the tester girls to clean it up as he was too busy. This tool later came for a job at my next company and would have been my new manager if I hadn't intervened with some subtle persuasion tricks when the hirers asked me if I'd worked with the guy before. I saw the guy in a restaurant a couple of years after that and he gave me a dirty look, so I guess he figured out why he didn't get that job. Muahahahaha!

Phait

08-05-2007, 08:34 PM

if I hadn't intervened with some subtle persuasion tricks when the hirers asked me if I'd worked with the guy before.

"This isn't the man you're looking for, move along"

thefly

08-07-2007, 01:45 AM

If you write about yourself and then just change the names, that's cheating the reader. It's legitimate fiction. Purely invented.

It's about a journalist talking about his wife and daughter. It touches topics such as lack of emotions, alcoholism, stuff like that.

Well, in the past, you displayed a disdain towards women and more than mentioned how alcohol affected your life in posts here at 3DR. So "purely invented" seems pretty "purely bullshit" to me.

In the past you've had trouble with women and booze. Wow, now that is a new take on life, isn't it?

avatar_58

08-07-2007, 11:46 AM

Hmmm...apparently my boss wants me to stay for another few months, at least until the end of December. O_O

So here I was getting all depressed and worried about what the frig I would do for the next few months, and then this gets thrown my way. I said 'yes' of course, but I wasn't thinking straight and just agreed with what was comfortable (as usual).

So....it all depends on what the folks upstairs decide. My guess is they'll say yes, because theres no reason not to with all these new machines needing to be setup around here.

It just struck me though, that come november I'll have worked an entire year. What happened? It sure as hell hasn't felt like it.

Destructor

08-07-2007, 05:59 PM

It just struck me though, that come november I'll have worked an entire year. What happened? It sure as hell hasn't felt like it.

"You keep'n busy, pal?" :)

Oh, BTW, Simon, good work! I laughed out loud when you said a girl had sex with you after reading it. Why didn't you write your book in English though, man? :confused: I wanna buy/read it! ;) At least ShakeIt's book (or manuscript still) is in English, is it not? That's something to look forward to at least. :)

ShakeItBaby

08-07-2007, 07:21 PM

Too bad the publishers don't feel the same way... :(

I had an idea for the structure of a philosophy/life advice/humor book last night that will be more along the lines of the persona I use here than my fiction writing is. Gonna mull it over some more for a while and talk to an artist friend about doing pictures for it. If I go ahead with it, I might even release it free on the net in periodic sections.

Simon Charles

08-07-2007, 09:24 PM

Well, in the past, you displayed a disdain towards women and more than mentioned how alcohol affected your life in posts here at 3DR. So "purely invented" seems pretty "purely bullshit" to me.

Well, considering I'm the author of the book and you've never even read it, I'd say I'm in a better position to know what is and what's not.

True, I had problems with women and alcohol in my past but that doesn't mean I told my life story in my book and just changed the names. In fact, I went to great lengths to avoid that at all costs.

A writer will inevitably draw upon his knowledge, experience and emotions when writing. Words don't come from pure nothingness. But that doesn't mean every book ever written is actually always about the writer. And as a reader, you're robbing yourself the pleasure of a good read if you're looking for the parts where "it's the author talking". The best books don't have those parts anyway. My writing coach is an

thefly

08-08-2007, 01:04 AM

It's legitimate fiction. Purely invented.

Words don't come from pure nothingness.

I see?

Deep-Space Warrior

08-08-2007, 05:25 AM

I saw a lot of interesting jobs... But i'm still a student, and i'll still be a student for at least 3 years.

When i'll succesfuly finish the school, i would like to become a garden technician.:p

Simon Charles

08-08-2007, 06:29 AM

Wow, half my post got eaten up. Doh. Ah well.

Dave-ros

08-08-2007, 11:21 AM

I see where Simon's coming from -- you write about someone like yourself, but with significant changes. Maybe the core comes from your own experiences, and maybe there's a couple of knowing nods to real people you know, but the rest is fictionalised, because otherwise it's just an autobiography. It's not like the protagonist in this book is Charles Simon, great author and member of 3D Worlds forums, getting his work criticised by theflea :p

Remember, Stephen King often has authors as the protagonists in his stories, and you wouldn't call him a second-rate sensationalist hack... er... sorry, bad example :o

Parkar

08-08-2007, 12:20 PM

Studying computer engineering. Currently working on my Masters Thesis (last few weeks writing the report). The thesis consisted of studying the specifications and discussions of the Long Term Evolution of 3G and finally building a prototype based on it. Hopefully will be working with software development/maintenance once I am done. Might get offered a job later this week at the company I did the Thesis for.

Been studying for 18 years straight with just a few summer jobs so my life is defiantly going to change quiet a bit now that I am done.

Phait

08-08-2007, 01:23 PM

18 years straight?! How old are you? I remember a photo of you, can't be that old.

Parkar

08-08-2007, 02:01 PM

18 years straight?! How old are you? I remember a photo of you, can't be that old.

25 in a month.

9 years primary school, 3 years Secondary and 6 years at uni.

I am trying to upload an image in the photo thread but it's being a bitch right now, might just put it on image shack instead. It's 4 years old though. I have always looked a bit younger then I am, probably look more like 20 then 25.

Phait

08-08-2007, 02:06 PM

Well you said studying, so I thought you meant college - and 18 years in college... well you see my point.

Destructor

08-08-2007, 05:54 PM

Too bad the publishers don't feel the same way... :(

Have you thought about self publishing? My Dad who was a literary agent on the side for a while (even though he didn't manage to get any manuscripts published!) said for a couple of grand you can get a bunch of copies printed up, and then you can start going round to bookshops selling them yourself. Does that sound feasible?

Anyway, it took four years for Simon's work to find it's home and you only started submitting to publishers, what, late 2005 / early 2006. So you've still got two to three years before you can give up. :p ;)

I had an idea for the structure of a philosophy/life advice/humor book last night that will be more along the lines of the persona I use here than my fiction writing is. Gonna mull it over some more for a while and talk to an artist friend about doing pictures for it. If I go ahead with it, I might even release it free on the net in periodic sections.

Nice, I'd be sure to check that out! Don't sell yourself short though. :)

Dave-ros

08-08-2007, 06:13 PM

My mother's actually had a book published -- only a limited run, and I think it's this self-publishing thing Destructor mentions (I'll have to check), with sales online, but hey -- it's a start! Because you have to write about what you know, she's written about Japanese mythology (she's a Japanoholic)... and a serial killer. Uh-oh, Mumsy, what are you not telling me?! :o

ShakeItBaby

08-08-2007, 07:27 PM

I'm going to put it on Lulu at some point, so it will be sort of self published then. I'm not going to go the vanity publishing/self distribution route with it though.

As for submitting to more publishers, there are a grand total of four publishers in Australia that take unsolicited crime fiction and I have already been through them all. It's a small market here, and the book is too Australian based for overseas markets. Anyway, my new book is SF so I won't be restricted to local publishers when the time comes to send that out.

Batchelor

08-09-2007, 05:23 PM

Heh... I once wanted to be a writer... then I realized there was not a single original or creative idea in my head.

Currently, I'm an assistant in a jet turbine engine repair and overhaul company. Just think... whenever you catch a flight anywhere... theres a minuscule chance that I handled some of the components in the aircraft's engines.

Destructor

08-09-2007, 05:33 PM

I'm going to put it on Lulu at some point, so it will be sort of self published then. I'm not going to go the vanity publishing/self distribution route with it though.

Not willing to play dirty, eh? ;)

I say, you've taken the time and effort to write something you wanted to write, you should try to sell it anyway you can. After all, someone's got to compete with the mainstream commercial crap. :cool:

As for submitting to more publishers, there are a grand total of four publishers in Australia that take unsolicited crime fiction and I have already been through them all. It's a small market here, and the book is too Australian based for overseas markets.

Are you going to try anyway? Some overseas market, say the UK, may very well welcome an Australian book.

Anyway, my new book is SF so I won't be restricted to local publishers when the time comes to send that out.

SF!? Afraid of getting typecast already!? :D

Phait

08-09-2007, 05:34 PM

Currently, I'm an assistant in a jet turbine engine repair and overhaul company. Just think... whenever you catch a flight anywhere... theres a minuscule chance that I handled some of the components in the aircraft's engines.

^ I considered going into aviation maintenance, however I'd hate to have such important responsibilities on my shoulders - if I did something wrong in the slightest that contributed to various factors, that lead to a crash? No thanks.

ShakeItBaby

08-09-2007, 05:52 PM

Not willing to play dirty, eh? ;)

Yup. :cool:

I say, you've taken the time and effort to write something you wanted to write, you should try to sell it anyway you can. After all, someone's got to compete with the mainstream commercial crap. :cool:

Lulu (http://www.lulu.com) will achieve this sufficiently, and without the cost and effort of vanity publishing.

EDIT: Plug for my buddy's Christian SF novel (http://http://childrenofwrath.spaces.live.com/) that he's putting out through Lulu. The print quality looks pretty good from what he showed me, virtually the same as mainstream print.

Are you going to try anyway? Some overseas market, say the UK, may very well welcome an Australian book.

No, Australian-themed books only sell overseas if they've been a success here first.

SF!? Afraid of getting typecast already!? :D

Not at all - SF is my other passion, as well as mysteries.

Anyway, it's time to move on and keep writing new stuff, not get too hung up on the rejected material. If I get something else published and make a name in the future, there will be plenty of opportunities later on to show publishers my unpublished back list.

Batchelor

08-09-2007, 06:09 PM

I considered going into aviation maintenance, however I'd hate to have such important responsibilities on my shoulders - if I did something wrong in the slightest that contributed to various factors, that lead to a crash? No thanks.

Its very hard to foul something up, as there are countless safety checks. Unless you are ignorant, or deliberately malignant its almost impossible to make a mistake, and have that mistake avoid notice by inspectors and other workers.

Phait

08-09-2007, 06:29 PM

Yeah I suppose. Although I'm horrible at math too...

Simon Charles

08-09-2007, 06:38 PM

I see where Simon's coming from -- you write about someone like yourself, but with significant changes.

No, the point is to avoid that, which I did. I write about people that don't exist.

Maybe the core comes from your own experiences,

No. Not the core, not the sides, not the middle, not the fringes, nothing.

and maybe there's a couple of knowing nods to real people you know

HELL no. That's amateurish and tacky.

Came back from work today with a grin on my face. My project manager thanked me for a project well done yesturday. The client was very pleased and gave us more work. Apparently, I've provided jobs for 4 people tomorrow. Gotta love feeling like you make a difference. :)

bobthefish

08-09-2007, 07:08 PM

goin into grade 12.
im scared as i dont know what im doing after highschool, and i prolly cant get in to college/university cause my marks are too low

Destructor

08-09-2007, 09:29 PM

Lulu (http://www.lulu.com) will achieve this sufficiently, and without the cost and effort of vanity publishing.

Fair enough. Looks like I'll be ordering from there in not too long. :)

EDIT: Plug for my buddy's Christian SF novel (http://http://childrenofwrath.spaces.live.com/) that he's putting out through Lulu. The print quality looks pretty good from what he showed me, virtually the same as mainstream print.

Neat. Are most of your friends pen wranglers?

There hasn't been a complete absence of writing in my circle either. My Dad's best friend wrote a kind of mystical short story. It didn't get published though despite my Dad's best efforts. And my Uncle wrote a sci-fi novel but hasn't finished it yet. Don't know if he will. He did some very solid writing after spending many years in University and had many ideas for books but then he suddenly lost the motivation for it for some reason. I think he even destroyed his work, but luckily my Dad had a copy. He hasn't done anything since, just sitting on the dole and now dissability pension even though he's not disabled. :p

No, Australian-themed books only sell overseas if they've been a success here first.

Yeah, I suppose.

Not at all - SF is my other passion, as well as mysteries.

What about sci-fi mysteries? Doing something like Blade Runner would be heaven to you I bet. :)

Anyway, it's time to move on and keep writing new stuff, not get too hung up on the rejected material. If I get something else published and make a name in the future, there will be plenty of opportunities later on to show publishers my unpublished back list.

Yep, keep those keys rattling. :)

Batchelor

08-10-2007, 01:23 PM

Although I'm horrible at math too...

So am I. What difference does it make? You don't have to be a rocket scientist. If you can plug numbers into formulas, its pretty much downhill from there.

Phait

08-10-2007, 01:26 PM

No, I mean - I'm really not good at math! :p

Waiter

08-10-2007, 05:16 PM

Right now I am doing this for a living:

http://www.domstufen.de

Batchelor

08-10-2007, 05:41 PM

No, I mean - I'm really not good at math! :p

Like how bad? Do simple operations stump you? Sometimes they throw me for a loop. Multiplying 9 and 7 for instance takes me a good chunk of time. I consider that bad.

Thats why some guy, in his infinite wisdom, invented the calculator.

Phait

08-10-2007, 05:52 PM

The essentials are easy, it's just my problem with math has been often confusing 1 operation with another operation - the formula looked similar but had to be done differently.

Dividing fractions, numerator/denominators etc. I forget what all that means or how to do it. Most algebra, pfff.

I was in pre-algebra (a freshman class) for 3 years.

Batchelor

08-10-2007, 05:59 PM

Yes, there are all sorts of rules and exceptions... I really haven't held on to anything I was taught. I find I often must teach myself how to do certain types of equations over again, which takes an excruciating amount of time.

Destroyer

08-11-2007, 04:00 PM

Dividing fractions, numerator/denominators etc. I forget what all that means or how to do it. Most algebra, pfff.

The thing with algebra is its not fun, its quite boring actually. its meant as a tool to solve more complex mathematical problems, so if you just got through it perhalps you would enjoy the higher level mathematics and then understand it better.

Mike359

08-17-2007, 01:13 AM

I'm still in high school. Well I got suspended for the rest of the year. but I'm going back in September.
My part time job sucks. I push shopping carts and stock shelves :mryuck:

Malgon

08-17-2007, 03:33 AM

I'm new to the whole General Messages section, but this has been a great thread to read. :)

So I'm definitely not where I wanted to be 2, 4, 6 years ago. I'm 24 and I feel very behind my peers. I know what I want to do for career/long term (graphic design) but I've got to start at so-so jobs for awhile and get a damn car.

2 days ago after looking back at my depressing slump I decided to get in gear, started working out and now to apply for jobs again and hopefully not let myself fall back into that. I guess I just can't grow up.

I don't have the slightest idea how I "settle". I feel the same as you phait, seeing everyone my age (and hell....younger) having successful jobs, college credentials and rewarding relationships. Meanwhile I haven't done shit since leaving high school in 2003.

Sometimes I feel a bit like this, especially when a lot of my friends have completed Uni or Tafe courses and are going somewhere with there lives, but it's not always bad. It really depends on whether the now or the future is more important for you to live in, and I think it is a kind of balancing act between the two. You ultimately have to decide which is more important.
A lot of people who studied hard kind of missed out on the fun stuff over the years, and those of us who didn't study enjoyed it as it was (and to the detriment of the future perhaps) . Each has it's own pro's/con's and you have to go with what makes you happy. I know it sounds kind of generic, but if you overcomplicate everything it can seem worse than what it really is.

One thing I'm learning on these boards are that there are some very talented and intelligent people around, and with those attributes many of you could do anything you wish. I believe many good points have been made here, and I guess it's better to gather what's been said here, than for me to possibly misintpret! :p

P.s. As for me, I'll take it from my bio:
Forklift driving, box stacking, warehouse dude

Edit: It's good to hear you went in as positive as you could with your JI Phait, and it's cool that you'll still be a while yet at your job avatar_58! :)

Destructor

08-17-2007, 05:45 AM

I'm new to the whole General Messages section, but this has been a great thread to read. :)

Yeah, I've been here a while and I think we've had some good discussion in it. :)

P.s. As for me, I'll take it from my bio:
Forklift driving, box stacking, warehouse dude

I did some shipping container unloading for a while. Watching the forklifts do their stuff with the pallets was pretty fun, and made me want to drive one. I might get a forklift license one day even if it's just out of sheer interest, and not for a job or anything. I like learning how to use different vehicles etc. Pilot's license here I come! :cool:

Edit: It's good to hear you went in as positive as you could with your JI Phait, and it's cool that you'll still be a while yet at your job avatar_58! :)

I had a good job interview today for a UNIX position. They said they'd like me to go back on Monday for a second one for the same job. I hope I get the job as it's a company I'd really like to work for, friendly close knit team, and I'd be doing what I love or at least good at. Plus it would be challenging and stimulating. Learning all the time aswell. :)

...And it would make a nice change from sitting at home piss farting around all day long. :o

Shadow Master

08-17-2007, 09:45 AM

I'm in what you'd call in Chile "universidad". I think it's called "college" in the U.S. First year, studying for physicist. I think I'll study Astronomy instead, though. I think I'll also take some advanced programming courses next year. I think my game engine will be finished around 2020. I think I'll not do much with it anyway.

I think I'm thinking too much, don't you think so?

Parkar

08-18-2007, 06:02 AM

I'm new to the whole General Messages section, but this has been a great thread to read. :)

Sometimes I feel a bit like this, especially when a lot of my friends have completed Uni or Tafe courses and are going somewhere with there lives, but it's not always bad. It really depends on whether the now or the future is more important for you to live in, and I think it is a kind of balancing act between the two. You ultimately have to decide which is more important.
A lot of people who studied hard kind of missed out on the fun stuff over the years, and those of us who didn't study enjoyed it as it was (and to the detriment of the future perhaps) . Each has it's own pro's/con's and you have to go with what makes you happy. I know it sounds kind of generic, but if you overcomplicate everything it can seem worse than what it really is.

One thing I'm learning on these boards are that there are some very talented and intelligent people around, and with those attributes many of you could do anything you wish. I believe many good points have been made here, and I guess it's better to gather what's been said here, than for me to possibly misintpret! :p

P.s. As for me, I'll take it from my bio:
Forklift driving, box stacking, warehouse dude

Edit: It's good to hear you went in as positive as you could with your JI Phait, and it's cool that you'll still be a while yet at your job avatar_58! :)

Studying isn't always the super ambitious route either. In my case continuing to study was the easy way as having to look for a job seemed like pain in the ass not to mention maybe having to do work I wouldn't like (should probably mention that university studies in Sweden are free). I tend to not look further then a few years in to the future if even that.

I got offered the job I mentioned earlier in the thread btw. Just like the studies this job was nothing I planed or aimed at doing either just what turned out of my Masters Thesis, which in turn... well you get the idea ;). One step at a time.