Savage: The Battle for Newerth [Archive]

Wamplet

09-14-2003, 08:04 PM

OMG ThIS GAME IS MY FAVORITE!!!!!

WOW!

I bought a copy for myself and my cousin.

It's basically like playing Empire Earth or Age of Empires but in a First person perspective as one of the attack units.

The resource management is done very nicely.

You( the commander actually ) gets a few workers to use as Drones that are really just computer AI.

Human players can help work/repair/build at a much faster rate too.

They got monsters and Humans. I love the monsters. They are both neat as hell though.

You spend about 5 mins or less helping the Commander prepare by building a few structures like towers and garrisons, etc.

Then he can have te drones collect the loot after that.

When you kill or attack people, they drop gold and loot. You collect it for your Commander and team. You also collect personal gold and get to spend it on upgrades like a stronger warrior or TONS of weps and items, like repair packs, ammo packs, sniper like bows, etc.

Very cool shit. I will take a screen shot or 2 next time i play tonight.

The best part is the matches don't take 2 or 4 hours to play. Most of them are done within 30 mins or so.

Here is the website link:

http://www.s2games.com/savage/

Check the gameplay video out. Please note, What you see is exactly how the game is played. ( 1st/3rd person. ) I think the commander plays that AND a top down view like EE/warcraft and toggles between the 2 modes. He can go to topdown to command you or a group of people to gather gold, or go attack, build, etc.

Gameplay Trailer: ( no demo and its' online only, but no monthly fee. \o/)
http://www.s2games.com/gameplaytrailer/Savage_Gameplay_20030618.zip

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Reaper978

09-14-2003, 08:26 PM

You know sombody's got their head on straight when there is no fee. I want to play it, but of course I cant spend any of my cash images/icons/frown.gif

Grendel187

09-14-2003, 08:26 PM

No monthly fee?! That is strange, I always thought there was going to be a fee like Planetside etc.

Wamplet

09-14-2003, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Grendel187:
No monthly fee?! That is strange, I always thought there was going to be a fee like Planetside etc. Hell no and I am SOOO glad there isn't. Although, I actually would pay a fee for this one. I am gonna go play it and I will post some screenshots in a bit. images/icons/smile.gif

\o It's a very welcome genre for me. This is EXACTLY the kind of multiplayer game i have been looking for.

Wamplet

09-14-2003, 11:46 PM

Ok, as promised. Here are a few screenshots I just took.

Unfortunately, we lost this one. I took out a ton of infantry and 1 Catapult. they had another left and it was mowing us down, though. images/icons/blush.gif

http://www.wamplet.com/savage0.JPG

A gangrape shot of me being plowed through by 2 giants and a regular human.

http://www.wamplet.com/savage1.JPG

Me mining during the pre-match. I was returning some ore to the Stronghold.

http://www.wamplet.com/savage2.JPG

Same Level. Match just started and the commander asked us to set up a Spire ( Monster Defense Tower ).

http://www.wamplet.com/savage3.JPG

Me chopping up a weird animal for gold.

http://www.wamplet.com/savage4.JPG

Tropical Level. It's night time and looks perty cool. The blue clear thing to the left is a building waiting to be constructed. Waterfall is straight ahead.

http://www.wamplet.com/savage5.JPG

Same Level. Day time. ( night/day changes ) We just set up some buildings and then went on to win the match.

http://www.wamplet.com/savage6.JPG

Aegeri

09-15-2003, 12:12 AM

Ok at first this game looked like a cheapo Natural Selection rip off.

Now it looks like it MIGHT actually be pretty decent. I like the look of it myself and might give it a go.

Wamplet

09-15-2003, 01:44 AM

It's some new RTSS ( real time strategy shooter ) game, supposedly released recently.

It looks like it's multiplayer only. Has anyone played the game yet? images/icons/confused.gif

Alex

09-15-2003, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Grendel187:
No monthly fee?! That is strange, I always thought there was going to be a fee like Planetside etc. I'm assuming this game doesn't operate solely on company-owned servers, but on player computers like Battlefield 1942 and most other fee-less multiplayer games. Of course, assuming is always bad images/icons/smile.gif

Wamplet

09-16-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Alex:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Grendel187:
No monthly fee?! That is strange, I always thought there was going to be a fee like Planetside etc. I'm assuming this game doesn't operate solely on company-owned servers, but on player computers like Battlefield 1942 and most other fee-less multiplayer games. Of course, assuming is always bad images/icons/smile.gif <hr /></blockquote>Correct. I think there are about 50% company run servers and 50% player run ones right now. The game just came out this weekend, so plenty of home-based servers will skew the percentage eventually.

I'll post more in a sec. boss is coming. images/icons/grin.gif

EDIT: ok, he's gone now. images/icons/blush.gif

It plays like Tribes 2, where they have an autoupdate server and authentication server.

Once you get in, it loads up a listing of all servers on the Master Server browse list, just like Tribes 2 or your other run of the mill Online shooter. It has an IRC channel in the Game, buddy list, etc.

I have yet to play as a Commander. I wanna run a LAN game to try it out, so I am not sure what all is involved. Although the Game box shows a few pics of the command interface and it looks fairly straight forward.

I had a blast playing yesterday.

The key to winning is having a good Commander. People complain about balance issues for each race, but if you play with a good commander AND team, you will realize the true importance of teamwork. We played as Beasts and tore up some Humans. Then they whined and we said, ok everyone switch to Beasts and we will play as Humans. We won faster with Humans that next round. images/icons/grin.gif

It's a very fun game and it's really neat how you can get awards at the end of the match, like most kills, most NPCs killed, most deaths, most commands accepted, etc. It probably helps the commander out more than anything, as far as knowing what people are doing each match and how better he/she can use them.

I'm sure I am forgetting some stuff, but if anyone has some questions on it let me know and I will try to answer them.

I think there are about 5 units per team that you can pick or buy. There are about 25 weapons/ranged weps/spells outside of your standard melee wep ( which varies based on the unit you pick )

Then there are about 20 items per team you can buy. ( 3 items max in inventory ) Sensors, mines, health packs, ammo packs, mana crystals, invisibility... etc.

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Aegeri

09-16-2003, 10:33 AM

Hmmm now this sounds REALLY interesting.

Definitely buying this if there are NZ servers.

Mountain Man

09-16-2003, 02:40 PM

Sounds interesting. One thing I like is that they are supporting the Linux platform. A few Linux only clans have already started forming, too.

Wamplet

09-16-2003, 03:08 PM

I didn't notice any NZ servers, although there were several people from Isreal running a server.

The netcode seems perty good. Most of the servers I play on have 32 people max, although I saw a few with 64.

Something I forgot to mention is that you gain experience during a match. It doesn't carry over, but if you spend a few mins attacking or building, you get an upgrade related to the skill used.

Looks like you get just 1 upgrade max for each skill, Laboring, hand to hand, armor, but it's a free upgrade nonetheless.

This was the kind of game I was expecting PlanetSide to be like, as far as the FPS element was concerned. However, Planetside suffered from a land that was just too damn big.

In Savage, you have the basic spawn point at base and then can set up sublairs/garrisons along the way to spawn closer to teh enemy base. In some maps, they even have a spawn flag. If you touch it, you can spawn there as an option.

It was funny last night. we managed to set up an early spawn base up on the outskirts of the enemy's main fortress, so it was a fairly easy match. images/icons/grin.gif

I'd say the first few mins are extremely critical, You can tell very shortly, whether or not you are doing well, or if you have a good commander, etc. For example, If a minute has gone by and your commander has not asked you to set anything up like towers or other buildings, then you are probably screwed, because he is a n00b. images/icons/blush.gif

Takes no more than a minute or less to cross the map. They allow running and jumping, stamina, etc., for movement. Of course, if you are a gigantic Behemoth ( tree wielding monster ) ora siege/catapult, you won't be the fastest guy on the block. images/icons/grin.gif Much slower than a Heavy on Tribes2, but talk about dealing some damage. images/icons/shocked.gif

Mountain Man

09-16-2003, 08:49 PM

Most reviews say that combat is melee oriented with long range weapons not being terribly useful. They also say that combat is largely a clickfest with the victor being decided mostly by luck.

What's your take on this?

Reaper978

09-16-2003, 08:57 PM

I would really like to see a big rain of arrows coming at you while you charged them in a fps.

Wamplet

09-16-2003, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Mountain Man:
Most reviews say that combat is melee oriented with long range weapons not being terribly useful. They also say that combat is largely a clickfest with the victor being decided mostly by luck.

What's your take on this? If you mean people don't have unlimited ammo, yeah, you have to switch to your primary wep, which is close-range.

Combat is NOT a clickfest. BUILDING is a clickfest. images/icons/tongue.gif Depending on the weapon, you can hold down the attack button and it will auto attack. However, what i REALLY wished they considered was allowing auto-building, by holding down the button.

Either way, you aren't clicking constantly. Yes, clicking is required, but only because of the building and primary weapons.

The victor is NOT decided by luck, If you are a bigger class and have full HP and attack a smaller unit, the smaller unit dies. He may take off 25 or 50% HP, but you will most likely win, assuming, you know how to "dance."

Ranged attacks work best when done as a group. See below quote. images/icons/smile.gif

Originally posted by Reaper978:
I would really like to see a big rain of arrows coming at you while you charged them in a fps. That happens in the game. All too often. images/icons/blush.gif

Ranged Weapons vary. Some are targetted, like seige, bows, crossbows primarily good for attacking buildings or sniping.

Other kinds are spreaders, like shotgun blasts and best done medium to close range for maximum effect.

However, if the spread attacks are done in groups, then they can be effective long range.

Kevin9er

09-16-2003, 10:24 PM

I want it, but i dont want to buy it! Damn laws!

Alex

09-16-2003, 11:09 PM

How is the damage modeling? Do you go down after 2-3 hits, or can you take some significant punishment before going down?

How about controls? Are there a whole lot of keys for a whole lot of actions, or are the controls of the simpler shoot/use/move type? I'm referring to the players on the ground, not the commander. I'm sure he gets plenty of controls to worry about. images/icons/smile.gif

I'm really interested in this game, but I don't want to buy it too late and be a newbie in a sea of elitist veterans. That's why I could never enjoy most popular Half-Life mods. On the other hand, I want to wait around long enough for patches and such to come out.

Reaper978

09-16-2003, 11:26 PM

I am definately going to buy this game. Sounds fun as hell.

Wamplet

09-17-2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Alex:
How is the damage modeling? Do you go down after 2-3 hits, or can you take some significant punishment before going down?It depends on the wep:

Melee - 1 or 2 hits if you are a tiny unit versus a larger unit. If you are a unit below, you can definitely take a few hits, though.

The closer you are to the attacking unit, the more hits you can take. Maybe 5 or 6 hits max to kill someone in a duel, if you are both fairly weak.

Ranged, It depends. Some weps, like the scatter/shrapnel ones only do insta-kill damage upclose, and that is assuming you are attacking a small unit. Otherwise, it takes 2 - 5 hits upclose.

Originally posted by Alex:
How about controls? Are there a whole lot of keys for a whole lot of actions, or are the controls of the simpler shoot/use/move type? I'm referring to the players on the ground, not the commander. I'm sure he gets plenty of controls to worry about. images/icons/smile.gif Not really too many. Just like your standard shooter.

WASD for movement.
Spacebar - jump.
left mouse button - fire/attack
scroll button - switch wep
press scroll button- zoom
number keys switch to a wep or use an item in inventory.

1= primary melee wep
2= ranged/spell attack
3=Inventory
4=Inventory
5=Inventory

Commander has similar controls. The primary difference, is that he can zoom in and out, kinda like Empire Earth, from Isometric to First person view. However, the first person view is an actual first person view, not some low poly shit like Empire Earth had. images/icons/grin.gif

Originally posted by Alex:
I'm really interested in this game, but I don't want to buy it too late and be a newbie in a sea of elitist veterans. That's why I could never enjoy most popular Half-Life mods. On the other hand, I want to wait around long enough for patches and such to come out. They are working on a patch right now to fix a few things, like the buddy list not loading on startup, something with the IRC server and a few other issues.

There are already veterans, because those that played the beta have extensive knowledge of the tactics required to win. I have played on all kinds of teams. I prefer the ones where the comander is good, but doesnt go for an immediate rush. I like my games to last long and not just 10 mins. images/icons/smile.gif

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Streak

09-20-2003, 03:05 PM

Umm, do you mean there is no CD-key checking? Or there is cd-key verification but no monthly fee?

Aegeri

09-20-2003, 03:12 PM

There be no monthly fee yarr.

Wamplet

09-20-2003, 05:13 PM

There is a CD key, requiring you to create an account for online play, like Tribes 2, ultima online, etc.

There is NO monthly fee, nor will there ever be, according to the game's FAQ. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wamplet

10-05-2003, 11:43 AM

Update: S2Games are planning to release a demo for Savage tomorrow on Monday.

The Demo servers will allow Retail users to connect to them as well. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'll post download links, if someone else doesn't beat me to it, as soon as they are available. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

EDIT: #2. They also released a critical patch that more or less fixed several requests. They added in a "autoattack" button so you don't have to keep clicking \o/. I can't wait to try this one out.

They made some optimizations of course, but focused the patch on some balancing issues.

fyi, The Demo will include the patch as well.

Wamplet

10-07-2003, 01:01 PM

Update: the demo is out! \o/

http://www.happypuppy.com/games/index.jsp?gid=70

Windows and Linux versions available. It is about 150Mb

You can only play as Humans, so it's gonna be a bit confusing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

They said they put in 2 maps, as well.

smattbac

10-07-2003, 01:07 PM

Sweet. Downloading.

Alex

10-10-2003, 08:50 PM

Okay, I got the demo a few days ago, and I've been playing it for hours every day! I'm definitely digging it; I don't think it's terribly difficult to understand, at least for non-commanders. I only had to ask one newb question: How do you heal without medkits? (I know the answer now, of course: You can't, unless you're near an officer.)

I don't dare try commanding, because I've never played any RTS game longer than five minutes. Yeah, not a single one ever made!

Wamplet

10-11-2003, 12:54 PM

Cool Alex! If ya get the game let me know what your name is so I can be out on the look out for ya. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I play as Wamplet, naturally.

I'm downloading the demo today, since I am stuck at my mom's babysitting. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Maybe I will see ya on there.

FYI, there are tons of links for the demo now.

I'd recommned using www.gamershell.com (http://www.gamershell.com) and picking one of the 1000 MB servers. You can get the demo in just a matter of minutes there.

Just to clear something up, I found out that the Commander doesn't get to play as a warrior at the same time. He is actually "stuck" in the commander view, but he can zoom in and out to see the action in an isometric 3d view. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Edit: the latest patch also took care of annoying problem. They added a button for autoattack. That way your finger doesn't get tired when you need to build or reapir something. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Just hit 'R' \o/.

I don't use it for attacking. I just use it primarily for building and repairing. The only bad part about that new button, is that it cannot be held down and allow you to move at the same time. You will move, but cease attacking/repairing/building. This makes it worthless assigning it to the left mouse button to replace regular attack. In either case, it's still quite an improvement.

Reaper978

10-11-2003, 01:07 PM

I found being commander incredibly challenging, I don't know how those guys do it. The game is definately one of the best I have played in a while though.

Soilwork

10-11-2003, 01:35 PM

This game dosen't make any sense what so ever..
1 minute i'm using a bow and arrow, the next I have a f*cking flame thrower, like what the f*ck is the deal here?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wamplet

10-11-2003, 02:33 PM

Lucky bastard! Sometimes I can play a whole game and be stuck with just the damn bow and arrow. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Not even a crossbow! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

The commander builds buildings and researches new weps. That's how you get the new weps and items. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Commanding isn't too bad. There are several guides at Savage Grounds and Savage times on how to start off as a commander. My cousin has logged a few hours commanding and does pretty good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif As long as you have access to stone, you shouldn't have a problem being commander. Of course, that means you need your guys to control those areas.

GuyFawkes

10-12-2003, 02:22 AM

Ive been playing this demo for about 3 hours now and it is GREAT FUN! Can believe how much teamwork helps. My only problem is getting a really crap of a commander and losing completely because hes incompetant. Other than that its really fun.
Whats your guys highest level? Mines 32.

Alex

10-12-2003, 04:45 PM

Hmm, the highest I ever got was only level 8. How can you possibly raise your XP that high in one game? Also, what kind of stuff do you get at such high levels? Full plate mail armor, electrified melee weapon, and a pet dragon, I imagine http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

GuyFawkes

10-12-2003, 06:45 PM

How long was your game and what did you do? I killed a bunch of guys took down about 12 guard towers, took out one of there bases myself. After level 10 all you do is get updated stats. I was in the game for probably 3-4 hours. Its damn fun too.

Alex

10-12-2003, 09:02 PM

Huh, the games I play last no longer than 20 minutes. On the other hand, very rarely do I play games with two equally skilled commanders.

Alex

10-12-2003, 09:03 PM

GuyFawkes

10-12-2003, 09:05 PM

A 20 minute game? Damn, youve not even scratched the surface. You need to get into a huge game.

Wamplet

10-12-2003, 11:22 PM

Hehehe.

yeah most battles are over within an hour, but many are around 20-40 mins long usually.

I took this from one of the savage web sites.

Level and bonuses:

2 40 Improved Laboring
3 80 Improved Armor
4 140 Improved Hand Weapon
5 220 Extra Stamina
6 300 Medium Armor
7 400 Shield ***
8 500 Crush Buildings
9 600 Full Armor
10 700 Level Up... no bonus
11 800 ...and so on...

You get the most money and EXP from attacking humans and buildings, but you can sit around and kill monkits or them ostrich things all day and level up decently. It's easier to level up that way if you are a Beast, cuz you can have Carnivore and always get health from your attacks. If you fight animals as a human, you gotta keep going back to buy medkits.

Streak

10-13-2003, 07:45 PM

Just got the demo today, seems pretty good so far.

My highest level in a game so far was level 8, but I don't know what the crush building power let me do.

Wamplet

10-13-2003, 08:07 PM

You basically get an attack bonus when attacking buildings. Kinda like using a Mortar Cannon. They have an excellent bonus attack when used on buildings, especially towers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

1 guy can quickly take out a tower with the mortar and if he has that crushing attack ability and a few medkits, he can do just as good.

Wamplet

12-08-2003, 07:43 PM

Several stores ( compUSA, Best Buy, EB Games, etc. ) will be selling Savage: The Battle for Newerth for $29.99 during the holiday season. \o/

http://gamershell.com/news_BSavageBHolidayPromotion.shtml

AndOne

12-09-2003, 12:36 PM

But even at 49.99 it was well worth it. If you get it post your screen names if they differ from here that way we can get on the same server to play and teach you if needs be. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Simon Charles

12-10-2003, 12:37 AM

Well, Wamplet was right. It rocks! This game came as a totally unexpected surprise for me. Finally, a place where you feel there's some real teamwork going on and not just raking in the kills.

I never thought I'd have this much fun. It runs flawlessly, excellent framerates, battles are huge, melee combat can become fierce, tense affairs where you get to slice and dice to your heart's content.

True, melee weapons feel nerfed down and imbalanced compared to sabers and axes but they're not as bad as they seem. Their learning curve is steeper though, as is the whole game's.

Only thing that's bugging me is that combat often boils down to a clickfest (yes, I agree with that comment) when you hope to strike something in the slashing. I've never encountered anyone who blocked (or even tried to), and luck does play a part. Well, from what I've seen so far.

Despite the akward feeling of having futuristic weapons with ancient swords, it's a whole lot of fun. Truly, I recommend this game to anyone who really wants to be part of a team. It's a welcomed change from Counterstrike and its scene of godlike aiming brats. Bottom line: a pure breath of fresh air.

Oh, and the marksman's sniper bow = http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

Simon Charles

12-11-2003, 05:41 PM

Savage rules. This thread deserves a bump. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

megarust

12-12-2003, 01:57 AM

I've been interested in this game for a while, so I'm downloading the demo at the moment. I despise most strategy games, but this sounds like something I will enjoy.

Wamplet

12-12-2003, 09:30 AM

I have the retail version, but I typically play on the Demo Servers as "Wamplet"

US West 212 Demo normally.

If i'm not there, I am normally on one of the other 21x servers ( 215, 217, etc. )

Simon plays on there as "Simon," JT plays on there as "JT", and my pal AndOne plays on there as "AndOne." Look us up or send me a PM if you wanna hook up. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'm making my rounds and then taking a shower. After that I will try to be on one of the servers.

I think Simon plays on the East coast servers ( US East 161, I think ) I'd play on them too, since they are lower ping half the time, but they are normally full when I check. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

It's a heavily team-based game. If your team sucks, then you are gonna lose and you will get frustrated. It's gonna happen. ( bad players, bad commanders, etc. ) At least try to stick around till you win a game or two, or make a good contribution to the team, like take out some buildings. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The game is as frustrating to play as it is awesome. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Some days I get on there and we don't win shit. Other days, it's a mix of wins/losses and yet others are just wins right down the board.

If ya get bored being a player, you can always command, but I'd definitely get a matches under your belt before you try, so that you know what buildings should be built. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Simon Charles

12-12-2003, 12:26 PM

For two days now I've had a streak or newbie commanders who suffered from the "idle peon" syndrom. Twice the command seat remained vacant for a long time at beginning of the games, meaning no one wanted to do it. And twice I've been too chicken to try it out. I just don't do well as a leader.

Hey Wamp, could you please tell me how the officer works? Everyone tells me he can give orders, but when I press the "officer command" button, all it does is order people to move someplace on the map. And yet I've seen officers give other orders. What gives? I want to honor the flag strapped to my back! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wamplet

12-12-2003, 04:45 PM

Simon, don't be scared. Just do it. when you do, make sure you say that since no one else wants to command, you are gonna try. Any commander is better than no commander, even if he sux or is a newbie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As far as the Officer goes, you generate health much faster and supposedly generate a healing aura ( invisible ) to nearby teammates.

His commands are basic. Attack a person or structure is one of the verbal commands. Moving to a spot is the other. That's basically it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

You are a bit stronger as an Officer as well. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

this is a good place to read up on stuff as well as strategies:
http://www.rtscentral.com/sav_home.asp

This one has tips as well:
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/savage/
I think this one has a more detailed guide on how to command. ( what you should be doing at the beginning of the game, what to build, what to research, etc. ) A very good read.

Simon Charles

12-12-2003, 09:01 PM

Well, there's some good news. At my local EB Games, the price tag on the box hadn't been updated. Since I was in a hurry, I just got in, looked for the box, cursed at the price, and left.

I went back today and asked the girl at the counter if they were expecting a rebate on it soon. She said no, but checked the price and said it was out of date. New price: 40$. So with taxes, that should come to around 60$, which is still high, but acceptable.

So, I'll let the holiday season pass, and buy it around January or February. Hopefully a update will be available by then, and the price will have dropped again. So if you can wait a while for me to get it, I'll cleave skulls like a rotweiller as your proud officer.

In the meantime, there's always the demo. I'll try commanding soon.

Say, is there a way to increase the score screen and chat window / font? It's insanely small... can't see a thing.

Kronx

12-12-2003, 09:45 PM

Well, I downloaded the demo and gave it a try. Fun, but not a game I want to buy.

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Hmmm, that wasn't quite in-depth enough. Savage was pretty cool. I'm a big fan of online team-oriented games. And this is a good one. It's nice to see how the RTS-side mixes in with the FPS-side. It's not too complicated, and it's easy to jump in and figure out what's going on.

The reason I won't buy it (but will play the demo a bit more) is it just isn't the right look and feel for me. I don't know how to explain it, but the art design is a turn-off. Also, the FPS portion is a little too basic for me. Still, it's a neat little game, and I think it's going to be around a while.

Wamplet

12-12-2003, 11:47 PM

Hahaha, Simon. Yeah, Like I said, I play on the demo servers, primarily anyways, so don't worry bout it. JT and a few others only have the demo so that is why i hang out there. We did awesome today.

I just pissed away about 5 hours playing it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

I still can't believe it's already 11 almost.

Anyways, not really sure what ya mean Kronxy, but they are working on a big patch that will updating a few things like the weps and graphics in first person. Anyways, I love it. It's frustrating as hell when you have no team, but when ya do, it's pure bliss. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

\o

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 01:41 AM

Did I read correctly? They're gonna add healer units on both sides? And they're gonna redo the weapon models? That's great!

Heh... Wamp, I took your advice and started a game on my own. Hosted one so no one would bother me. I started commanding with just the peons and it really took the stress off. The interface REALLY annoys me but I suppose it just takes some getting used to.

However, after understanding the basic mechanics, I forgot to start commanding modestly on a server with just a few people. As a force of habit from days of playing, I immediately joined the 42 players server. I didn't see it at first and started building a garrison and research center, and upgraded to produce the Savage.

But then, I don't know why, I stopped building completely! The peons were just mining the stone, all the guys were out in the middle getting slaughtered, and I was wondering why the hell I had nothing to do. I wasn't building all the other stuff! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

I was impeached within five minutes. But I was lucky, they didn't all whine and called me an ass. Just one, and some other guy politely suggested me to remember not to command on big servers.

Really. I simply forgot to keep building after the research center. You should have seen it! Our base was three buildings. And I was going "Yeah, this is cool! I'm so good!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now, all that's left for me is to learn how to assign commands to players (attack this unit, move here...) and how to make some players my officers.

Dogy

12-13-2003, 03:17 AM

Now, all that's left for me is to learn how to assign commands to players (attack this unit, move here...) and how to make some players my officers.

When you click on a unit, look at the lower right corner. There's orders you can issue them.

Wamplet

12-13-2003, 12:21 PM

Now, all that's left for me is to learn how to assign commands to players (attack this unit, move here...) and how to make some players my officers.

Hahaha cool Simon! I was on US West 212 all night yesterday.

I will be on there all day again probably after i finish up some more Christmas shopping.

Yeah hilight a person on your team and you get a flag and you can make them an officer or take it away and give it to someone else.

Yeah, Basically the thing to do is constantly build and upgrade. arsenal is your main upgrade place for weps. research center is your other one for items.

You gotta pick a weapon tech. Most go Magnetic first and then Chemical. If you are on Defense, i see more commanders go Chemical first, since you get demos and mortars ( to take down middle map garrison and towers )

You don't wanna sit back and babysit your guys until you have most of your stuff researched, otherwise, you will end up not getting anything built or researched. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif I've made that mistake before. Just let your guys fight as well as they can and just keep teching up. It's basically all you can do, other than the occaisional buff.

Also, the most important button in the world is "[" That is autoapprove requests. It's off by default and you should only enable it when you don't need to save up for something like a tower conversion or upgrade.

I was gonna command on X-roads, but Andone was on with me and he asked for it. He has much more success and EXP. as commander so i let him and we wont about 3 matches in a row, until someone finally decided to command for our team. We did really good yesterday. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyways, yes they have a new patch supposedly that will fix a ton of problems. some Packet loss/ping issues, netcode optimization, several exploit fixes ( like the mortar tower auto-placement ), several new renderings and changes to the visual effects of some of the weps, like the repeaters and the electrical weps.

I'll go dig up a link from their forums with the info. they posted a few shots of what some of the graphic changes would be. I know there is another thread with a complete list of the things fixed. It may be in there a few pages into the thread.

Savage update pics (http://forums.s2games.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100600955&f=1876023712&m=1826000784)

Also, a survey about Savage for people who have not yet bought the game or bought the game after playing the demo:

http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/58709596.html

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 12:31 PM

Now, all that's left for me is to learn how to assign commands to players (attack this unit, move here...) and how to make some players my officers.

Hahaha cool Simon! I was on US West 212 all night yesterday

What? Damn! How did I missed you? I was there last night. Oh well, my holidays have started yesturday (finished typing my final paper), I'm handing it in this monday and there probably won't be a class, unless that cute chick stays, I'll stay too. (That smile, and her funny lip shape... aah!)

So, in other words, I'll be free for Savaging away. And as I said, the drop in price and recent patch announcement have made me want this game more than ever. I'll get it eventually.

Hopefully I'll see you today on the field.

--==EDIT==--

Thanks for the survey link. I felt like answering it, and I usually hate those things. But S2 immediately gave me the feeling of actively supporting their customers, fanbase and product. They have the Blizzard glow.

Dogy

12-13-2003, 01:14 PM

Are you guys playing the demo version or full version? I'm playing the demo version. THIS ROCKS!

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 02:28 PM

I think Wamplet plays both. I only have the demo right now, but I plan on buying the full version. And yes, this game rocks!

Dogy

12-13-2003, 04:25 PM

Suggest we look for a server that way we can play together?

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 05:48 PM

Yup. Wamp has already said which servers he visits most often, and I'm usually there, or on the only one with 42 players. Check the top servers when you sort them by number. I'm usually there. I don't like playing when there's not at least 20 people on.

Wamplet

12-13-2003, 06:40 PM

Thanks for the survey link. I felt like answering it, and I usually hate those things. But S2 immediately gave me the feeling of actively supporting their customers, fanbase and product. They have the Blizzard glow.

Yeah same here. They are a small team and I want the game and them to be sucessful. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I've been doing all I can to help support them and get them sales.

Yeah, My favorite Server is US West 212, because it's usually not quite full.

I prefer a server with about 20 to 28 people. Anyways, I typically stick to any US West 21x server. ( 212, 211, 215, 217, etc. )

Look for me ( Wamplet ), JT, and AndOne on there. I may sneak in a quick game before I cook tonight, and then after that I will be on there all night! \o/

I bought Savage the day it came out for myself and AndOne, so we can play on both Retail/Full or Demo servers.

The Retail servers are awesome, because you get to play Beasts vs. Humans and it's a lot easier to tell who is on which team. Plus there is different tech and strategies behind all that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif But, like I said, I play on the Demo servers, because JT only has the demo version right now and I just know more people on that one.

Plus it's good to own a few newbies every now and then! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 06:52 PM

Wamp, is it true the beasts are unbalanced and much stronger than humans?

Wamplet

12-13-2003, 07:01 PM

lol. Yes and no.

If a clan plays as a beast, then yes, if they play as a Human team, then no. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The retail version is infinitely different than the demo servers due to the Beasts vs. humans perspective.

Beasts typically rely on hand to hand command more and less tech. They have ranged magic, though.

Humans rely on ranged weps more but still have decent melee.

It's an old arguement and it basically just comes down to who is playing on the beasts team. Beasts win more, because they are a funner team to play on.

For example, they have Carnivore ( 2nd wep ability ) it basically gives them health when they attack something, so with just a few wacks at a monkit or a person, you are back up to full health. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

For Beasts, the siege is different. You get a summoner/sorceror as ballista who is just a guy that walks with a staff and shoots big ass purple fireballs.

Behemoths are giant ass bears/elephants that use a tree trunk to smash stuff to pieces. They are the catapult equivalent for beasts. They are fricken HUGE. About 1.5 to 2x taller than a Stronghold! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

anyways, that arguement doesnt hold true. Both are fairly balance, in my opinion. Most of the good players just pick the Beasts and that is why so many people whine about the beasts being overpowered.

Take a Human who uses an immobilizer and Repeater. People whine like crazy just because someone threw an immobilizer at them and they got stuck and then torn to shreads by a repeater. You hear that all the time in the Demo, but in the Retail, the Beasts have Snare, which does the same thing.

Beasts dont have a demo, but have Sacrifice instead. I think it does less damage AND you commit suicide in the process, ( your entire body becomes the time bomb ) The beast version sucks, because you gotta time it just right, when attacking a tower, other wise, you wont last long enough for the blast to go off.

Gonna go cook, but i will be on the rest of the night on Savage. Prolly at US West 212.

Beasts are stronger, if you have a predator ( Lego equvialent), but stalkers suck versus Savages.

Stalkers and Savages both suck, because their second swing is much slower than the Tier 1 unit.

Not sure what I mean: Get a savage and attack an Oschore for a while. You will be dead if you don't time the attacks right.

If you get a Nomad, though, you will almost never die, unless lag rapes you, because the second hit is much faster in connection with the first hit on the Nomad.

Simon Charles

12-13-2003, 09:06 PM

Gonna go cook, but i will be on the rest of the night on Savage. Prolly at US West 212.

I was just there... got off around 20h50. A long fun game but it looked like we were in a deadock near the end. Then it stretched into boringness and it looked as though we we'd lose in the long run.

I'll get back on later tonight.

Wamplet

12-13-2003, 10:01 PM

Ok, bout to get on now. JT is already in one of the servers.

I'll look for him, but he will most likely be on 212.

Alex

12-14-2003, 01:08 AM

I'm definitely still playing the demo version, and I agree that it is quite fun. I'm leaning toward getting the full version, but Savage is just one of many games I want to get, so who knows when it'll happen. This game definitely has me hooked much more than most other multiplayer games, even Battlefield 1942.

Simon Charles

12-14-2003, 08:14 PM

I have to admit my experience with BF1942 is what's still preventing me to getting Savage ASAP. The novelty and multiplayer fun quickly wore off when I saw how individualistic people were being. Even in big war maps, no one played cooperatively.

However, Savage feels like it might give me more replay value, which is the #1 quality I look for in a game. I don't have much money; my games need to last me a long time. And I trust Wamplet a lot on this matter. Savage does look promising, with good support from the developers, and a good community to boot.

AndOne

12-14-2003, 10:51 PM

Simon were you on the saVage server with Wamplet earlier this week? I may have seen you there. \o

Wamplet

12-14-2003, 10:52 PM

I hear ya man. I'm the same way with multiplayer games. I wanna pick something that is fun, lots of replay value, and has meaning to me.

If you could only play the retail version. It's highly organized. It's sometimes quite common for a game to be won within 10-15 mins ( or less ) when playing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Others drag on for 1.5 hours wen both teams are really good.

Anyways, you definitely need teamwork to win. It's frustrating to see a team lose because the commander is good but no one listens, or the players are good but the commander is a complete n00b.

I'm gonna be there for a long time, so I hope ya end up getting it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Simon Charles

12-15-2003, 07:29 PM

Okay, it's monday evening, I just arrived from the university to hand in my final paper. So that means one word:

HOLIDAYS! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

It's Savage all the way now, baby! I'm wolfing down porkchops and beer (slightly tipsy) and I'm heading down to cleave some skulls. Hope I see you one evening.

Wamplet

12-15-2003, 08:04 PM

I'm soooo there! I'll be on the look-out for ya. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I played about an hour with JT on an empty server learning him to command. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif All rested up now, though.

I spent most of my time in that one just killing monkits and Oschores with a Legionnaire. I don't get to do that very often. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif \o/

Simon Charles

12-16-2003, 05:56 PM

Got Savage! Woot! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif See you there, Wamp! Which retail servers are you on usually?

Wamplet

12-16-2003, 06:22 PM

Uh.... Retail servers? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

What are those? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Hahaha. I have no clue. I normally play on the demo servers, unless I wanna get completely owned on a retail one.

There are so many clan folks on the retail version that it's usually a really quick match ora very long and grueling stale-mate.

In either case, I'll try to find ya. I normally play on a server with 15-32 people. I try to pick a server with something more closer to 20-25 if i can, because i like the smaller matches, but they fill up so quickly.

One of the guys I was talking about earlier took me under his wing and was learning me on how to "use the force." \o/ It was too cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

to answer your pm, You may wanna uninstall Savage and then delete the folder. then reinstall.

OR, before you do that, check your server filters to make sure that only Demo servers are being shown or not. there should be a retail filter.

Simon Charles

12-16-2003, 06:31 PM

Gonna go play Splinter Cell a bit. I'll be back to play Savage around 20h00.

Wamplet

12-30-2003, 10:12 PM

Simon Charles

12-30-2003, 10:25 PM

FYI, the much anticipated Savage Patch will be available shortly for beta testing to retail customers:

forum link (http://forums.s2games.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100600955&f=1876023712&m=8586073925)

It's supposed to fix a few exploits http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif ( most demo server players don't see some of the stuff that goes on in the retail ones. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif pretty sad. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif )

Anyways, they also are adding in the Medic class and are balancing some of the weapons.

IMO, the tech tree needs an overhaul. This is just like Warcraft 2. Even though there are two races, it's really just one mirrored, with cosmetic changes. There aren't enough differences between the tech or its production costs to establish real strategies. Just rush the stone and pray you have a good Commander who gives you ranged weapons fast.

On a lustful note, it would be nice if they changed the Summoner and make that unit a 'Priestess' instead, like the one you see on the Beast's splash screen. Watching a cute chick running around in third person is always nice.

With that said, Savage is a kick ass game and I am in no way bashing it. I can't wait for the patch.

Wamplet

12-30-2003, 10:59 PM

Simon Charles

12-31-2003, 11:46 AM

Wamplet

12-31-2003, 11:53 AM

I agree on the tech between both being similar. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

They said they are still considering female units. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Is it just me or is S2 Games very supportive of the community? I mean, considering female units... only 3DR probably does it with such dedication. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yeah, they sure seem to. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif They play on the servers, too. I've played with James and few others before. If they command, you can pretty much kiss your ass goodbye. I logged in once and James picked up commander, when their commander bailed on them and they were losing big time. Within just a matter of minutes, the guy had 2 forward garrison and we lost the middle on Eden. It was hilarious to watch him in action.

Actually, I think they had plans to put them in the original beta, but held back on it. I think their intent was to offer female versions of all units. I think catapults could be left out, but anyways they still talk about it as posibly making it in a future content update. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

FYI: There are posts that the authentication server(s) is(are) down, meaning they are probably patching the servers right now and then going to release the patch to the retail folk. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Simon Charles

12-31-2003, 12:57 PM

FYI: There are posts that the authentication server(s) is(are) down, meaning they are probably patching the servers right now and then going to release the patch to the retail folk. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Do I hear woot? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif How large is the update? Are we talking about a massive download?

Wamplet

12-31-2003, 01:17 PM

I'm not quite sure of the size yet. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd wager it's just a few megs, although I can definitely be wrong, depending on how they patch the files. There will be new artwork for the Medic buildings and the new medic unit, as well as several updates to the graphics of some of the weapons, their effects, and the player's hands.

I'm gonna guess 20 megs max. hopefully a lot less though. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

i posted a question about the filesize ont he forums there, but I'd wager we will get the link for the patch shortly anyway.

I'll let ya know when i find out.

EDIT:

ok, a guy just said the following at the s2forums:

"fyi: The patch is over 60mb" -XxsynxX

Simon Charles

12-31-2003, 04:03 PM

I'd like it if the buildings' textures were more colourful and different. Every building looks the same, especially for the humans. You know, slap shields above the doors, put some flags on top of the roofs, make some in dark wood or have more moving parts for the tech buildings (like chemical or siege workshop)

Wamplet

12-31-2003, 09:12 PM

^ I agree. some flags would be awesome. anyways, JT and I are gonna be chilling on a demo server chopping up some n00bs hopefully until you show up.

We will be on S2 West 211 or 212 probably.

Wamplet

01-20-2004, 08:32 PM

Savage 2.0 Patch is finally out. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

2 new units, 3 new levels and several exploit fixes.

Simon Charles

01-20-2004, 10:29 PM

Do we hear woot? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

Man, this new patche is like a whole new game! Some servers now offer 48 and 64 player slots. When you get into a heated battle with healers on both sides, it's a frantic race to see who will ressurect fallen warriors the fastest! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sometimes the same battle is fought over and over again until someone has the brains to gun for the healers! I was a kickass chaplain, healing my teammates in a heartbeat. Too bad healers don't get XP points for healing or ressurecting.

Overall, a kickass patch! One hell of a job from S2 Games. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Karthik

01-21-2004, 11:41 PM

Hey since you guys have updated to version 2.0 does that mean you can't play with demo users?

Wamplet

01-22-2004, 10:38 AM

Correct, according to my cousin. I haven't played the game since the patch, because I've been playing Far Cry. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif I don't know if the patch will hit the demo servers or not anytime soon. I thought it was supposed to, but I don't know if they want to push out a 30-70 mb patch to everyone. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm sure they will, though. They said the netcode was optimized by 80%. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Simon Charles

01-22-2004, 11:23 AM

I'm sure they will, though. They said the netcode was optimized by 80%. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

And boy, does it show! I'm getting excellent ping and framerate even with +45 people on. This game is totally different with that many people. I only get dips in framerates when there's a healer dick size war going on. But aside from that, lag spikes and packet losses are gone, gameplay is silky smooth even on my aging GF4, and everything runs great.

Must say it again: SAVAGE RULES! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

Wamp... could you remind me the adress to log on to the S2 clans website with your profile and stuff? There doesn't seem to be any link on the official Savage webpage.

Wamplet

01-22-2004, 11:26 AM

clans.s2games.com

Although, the server is currently down. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

AndOne

01-24-2004, 05:26 PM

omg Simon you may get mad at me for this and i feel as if i'm cheating on my gf but.... saVage has hit an all time low. I will actually say the game showed its first signs of sucking. That's right sucking. I'm a long time saVage gamer and lover but as of today i'm extremely pissed off at the game. I got on with Wamplet for his first retail game since the new patch and it blew big chuncks.

First of all only 3 different people would be the comm. secondly after about 5 min of playing everyone would vote to restart the game or move to next level. these vote options are good if used properly but to be abused makes me as a player wanting to play really dislike the game. So back to the demo i go until a lot of these KIDS grow up and learn to take an ass whooping. (steps down from the soap box) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Simon Charles

01-24-2004, 07:12 PM

As with any game that relies heavily on teamwork and online play, servers play a big part. The game does its best to promote and encourage teamplay. But if you have lone wolves on your team or a noob commander, it can indeed sour your experience of the game.

Since it's online and 100% multiplayer, you're not guaranteed to have an amazing experience every single time. You must be ready for that if you're going to play these games.

Sorry to hear you don't like the patch. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Wamplet

01-24-2004, 08:07 PM

Simon, his concerns are just realizations I have had from the Retail ever since the demo was released.

The retail is dominated by too many clans. the problem with this is that if you wanna command and their clan memeber wants to command, they will vote you out, even if you are good.

There is a higher degree of teamwork if you call the entire team heads to the enemy's base to isntantly win or set up a garrison right off the bat to win it.

In either case, it spoils the fun in playing and I am gonna just keep playing the demo servers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif It's much more enjoyable to me.

AndOne

01-25-2004, 11:00 PM

Sorry to hear you don't like the patch. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Simon I'm sorry let me rephrase that. I like the patch as a matter of fact i wish it was on the demo i guess my problem lies more with morons that play the game. And even with that being said i still play it but late at night around midnight or later. Only because in my opinion more civilized players play then, my European brothers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Wamplet

01-25-2004, 11:13 PM

^ Seconded.

It's not the patch that's the probelm. It's the way the retail servers are played.

It's hard to find a server to play on now, and the ones that are up are full of clans and if they don't have a commander from their clan, they will vote you out half the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Anyways, I love the game. I just don't like the invisible hand that forces you to play the way "it" wants to, on the retail servers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Simon Charles

01-25-2004, 11:34 PM

Never felt that invisible hand. To me, the game's as much fun to play as it ever was. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Wamplet

01-26-2004, 10:45 AM

Never felt that invisible hand. To me, the game's as much fun to play as it ever was. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

You probably play later than me, which explains a lot. AndOne has better luck playing the retail servers later at night.

Simon Charles

01-26-2004, 11:23 AM

Alex

02-02-2004, 09:01 PM

I'm particularly proud of this one. The game was a back-and-forth donnybrook, lasting over 45 minutes. And yes, my team prevailed in the end and I think I did pretty well. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif The deaths column is blurry, so I died 16 times if you can't read it.

smattbac

02-25-2004, 11:50 AM

There's a new version of the demo (2.0) (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=47303). Downloading now.

Anyone know if this demo has any of the new stuff that was released for the retail version has?

And in case someone else than me didn't know, Savage is also coming to Europe (http://www.savageeurope.com).

Wamplet

02-25-2004, 03:10 PM

Anyone know if this demo has any of the new stuff that was released for the retail version has?

The demo has yet to be patched as of the last week or so. I honestly don't know if they will patch the demo version. I haven't played it much lately, but when I do I only play the demo server. It's just not as enjoyable playing the retail servers. It's dominated by too many clans and it's really hard to get a whole match in without half the damn team voting to forfeit, concede, kick anyone they wish, etc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

smattbac

02-26-2004, 01:28 PM

KaiserSoze

02-26-2004, 01:33 PM

i dl'd this last night.

didn't install it yet.

someone can perhaps teach me how to play or give me a brief rundown?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wamplet

02-26-2004, 01:47 PM

It has the healer and stuff, if that's what you are refering to.

It also has this annoying 60 second respawn wait time that happens occasionally with a message to buy the full game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Yeah, silly me. I noticed it was a 2.0 DEMO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Bah. Man I really liked this game, but I really could care less about the healers.

I haven't played in ages. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Kaiser, I'll hook up with ya on the weekend if ya want. Also, you can check a thread that I made at Grudge's about it. Savage Thread (http://www.p0stwh0res.com/smf/index.php?topic=298.0)

KaiserSoze

02-26-2004, 01:57 PM

i want to try and play this one with you guys sometime this weekend.

i'll be a nOObie though so keep me at the back. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Alex

02-26-2004, 07:43 PM

I've got the full version (btw, the Morning map seems fine now, Wamplet), but due to uh, fluctuating Internet capabilities at my college I haven't been able to play as much as I'd like.

I feel so noob when meleeing in the full version: I play as human and get carved up in melee by the beasts. "Hmm, maybe playing as a beast will help me," I think. And of course, I get carved up by humans after I switch. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wid.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wid.gif

Wamplet

02-26-2004, 10:35 PM

^ yeah, I'm in the same damn boat as you. I do awesome on the demo servers, but completely suck when I go up against anyone in a Retail server. It's primarily because they are all in a damn clan. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

Ah welp, it was a good game and a good idea. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Dogy

02-27-2004, 07:42 PM

Hehe, just played a few matches.

Played 2 matches as Commander, won both of em. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Duke's New Chainsaw

02-27-2004, 09:31 PM

I read the new demo has both races, but I only see servers with humans. This sucks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

Simon Charles

02-27-2004, 10:16 PM

I read the new demo has both races, but I only see servers with humans. This sucks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

You must've read wrong. The demo can't play Beasts. That's the whole point.

Molten Brass

02-29-2004, 03:15 PM

Duke's New Chainsaw

02-29-2004, 03:23 PM

Simon Charles

02-29-2004, 05:39 PM

Molten Brass

02-29-2004, 06:20 PM

The Savage demo offers three maps and two playable races. The three new maps are Alpenglow, GlacierPoint and SacrificeLedge and there are new beast and human units available.

That's the info on the new demo at Fileplanet.... downloading now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I DLed it and it has none of that. All I see is eden, crossroads, and the human race. Like the first demo.

Ditto http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Simon.... your Majesty, I forgot your always right... sorry for saying otherwise *cough* http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Simon Charles

02-29-2004, 06:57 PM

Molten Brass

03-02-2004, 04:17 PM

W00t! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I've been playing it for a few hours, the game is bleedin lovely! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Molten Brass

03-02-2004, 04:18 PM

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wamplet

03-02-2004, 05:12 PM

so they actually put the beasts in the demo? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Molten Brass

03-02-2004, 05:22 PM

Oh, sorry... those screens are from the full game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wamplet

03-02-2004, 05:28 PM

^ I saw one of the "DEMO" clan members and figured it was the Retail.

Most people don't go through the trouble of playing the demo/retail versions, seeing as how they previously had to have separate installations. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

I assume if you have the retail version that you can now play on the Demo servers still? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Molten Brass

03-03-2004, 01:35 PM

I assume if you have the retail version that you can now play on the Demo servers still? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Yeah http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Molten Brass

03-06-2004, 04:27 PM

Mwhahaha.... Damn, this game rocks! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Needless to say... we were mowing the buggers down http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Wamplet

06-04-2005, 12:10 AM

http://www.projectoffset.com/index.html

There is a sneak peek video for download at the bottom of the page showcasing the new engine/game of Project Offset, which Sam Mcgrath is working on.

Karthik

06-04-2005, 02:31 AM

It's next-gen!

Simon Charles

06-04-2005, 06:09 AM

Wamp, you damn necro! Bringing this thread out from the dead, eh? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

How's Savage now? Looks like they're about to pull the plug on it. S2 haven't updated the game or their website in a year or so. Nobody plays the game anymore.

Wamplet

06-04-2005, 12:18 PM

JT still plays it.

I gave up as soon as they upgraded the demo servers to 2.0

When i bought the retail, all the clan people were just so completely gay and there were more bugs in the retail servers, as well as cheaters, so I just stuck to the demo servers.

Simon Charles

06-04-2005, 12:39 PM

Oh well. I guess it proves multiplayer games based on teamwork cannot work.

Jeff

06-04-2005, 12:43 PM

Simon Charles said:
How's Savage now? Looks like they're about to pull the plug on it. S2 haven't updated the game or their website in a year or so. Nobody plays the game anymore.

Hows Savage, you say? Well there are these things called "buffs", or powerups. For example, for humans, they've got electric (kills the guy in one hit), magnetic (protects you from projectiles for a short time), and chemical (speed running. FAST). For beasts, you've got a flame shield (burns the other players), heal (brings your health back to 100%), and a gateway (mostly used by the commander).

Anyways, what I don't like is people are stealing buffs, and basically killing one guy with one buff (not just a horde of guys, which that's what it's used for). Or taking them all for themselves.

Another thing is catapult whoring. Basically, once catapults are available from the siege workshop, people go around and instead of destroying buildings with them, they kill players on the opposite team. They were initially designed to destroy buildings, hence the name, "siege weapon". Beasts don't have good siege units, so they can't really fight back. The behemoth is an easy target. Although you carry an uprooted tree, you have to be close enough to hit something. Can't peg someone off from even 50 feet away. A human legionnaire or other unit, can rip apart a behemoth in 100 shots or less. This is one of the most effective weapons. A behemoth has 4200 health, although it can be killed easly. The other siege unit, a summoner, has 300 health, and although small, can be fluxed to death, or killed with a single marksman bow shot. Although you can "sacrifice" them. This means that you are running on fire with the frenzy item (speed boost), and when 10 seconds is up, you die, and everyone else within a small radius does too. The the demolition charge. Then again, some relocate back to the garrison like pussies, or move back far enough, so they won't get hit. Some players on your team would kill the player you are trying to sac, so ultimately you would kill yourself. Like me, if you don't time it right, you could be killed or blow yourself up.

There's also these guys who, when you kill someone, they run up and steal your gold. Now when you run up to the gold, you can't get it, even though you earned it. They'd even race for it like a pack of dogs. "No you don't. That's MY gold", they'd say, even though they didn't kill the guy.

There's more, but that gives you a basic idea of why I'm thinking of quitting, and playing something else. I'm even thinking of getting a console next year. Ahh, it's been a while for one of those.

Just though I'd post some interesting facts:

All Time Statistics (http://clansavage.com/statistics)
My Stats (http://clansavage.com/players/1806)
My clan's page (http://clansavage.com/clans/%7CCuRe%7C)
Guy who plays too much. Look at the bottom of the page under time played (http://clansavage.com/players/1105)
Little kid who everyone hates (Including me. You'll see why) (http://clansavage.com/players/2901)

That should get you started, but it serves a good point on why I hate this game.