Call of Duty: World At War

[Damien_Azreal]

Yep. Activision sortof officially announced CoD5 today.

Activision has announced that Call of Duty 5 is in the making, which they announced in an announcement released yesterday which can be read here. The confirmation is not really unexpected, as the CoD franchise has always been a success. Details concerning Call of Duty 5 has not yet been revealed though.


Probably Treyarch will be developing the game. It's already known that Infinity Ward will not be developing the game. Activision announced they want to bring out a new Call of Duty game every year.

There was a factsheet available here (http://www.vivendi.com/corp/en/Activision_Blizzard/fichiers/20071203_EN_factSheet.pdf)... but now nothing is coming up. Seems to have been taken down.

[Nessus]

Please be Vietnam, no one has done it justice yet.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Too early. Just my opinion.

[Damien_Azreal]

Since it's not being done by Infinity Ward.... I'm more of the opinion of... meh.

CoD3 was okay, but it was no where near as polished or fun as the CoD games IW does.

But Nessus, I agree with you. A CoD Vietnam would be awesome... oh I what I would give for that to come true.

[Vivi]

Call of Duty 3 was terrible. I think only InfinityWard can do this series justice, but I guess we will seen.

[psyborg]

They sorta announced this a while ago when they said that Infinity Ward will be doing even numbers and Treyarch(I think) will be doing odd numbers.

Ive been saying this since Cod3 was anounced, but seriously we are gonna get a new Call of Duty every single year. Activision is the new EA and Call of Duty, Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk are the new Madden, FIFA, Tiger Woods etc etc.

It makes it hard to get excited about these games when you just played one and you know another one is coming next year.

[Danule]

iraq! cmonn!

[Water12356]

Uh oh... I smell a milking machine ahead... >.<

[big fat lazy]

Uh oh... I smell a milking machine ahead... >.<

I think it started back when CoD3 was announced.

[Airtraffic]

I just finished CoD4-MW, not bad i guess but it didn't have any flow and was very short IMO.

[Decker]

Infinity Ward is smart to walk away from this. Everything they've done so far has been great, this game-per-year crap doesn't fit in well with their track record.

[hanged_man]

it's probably going to be another modern warfare game but with different locations

[psyborg]

Infinity Ward is smart to walk away from this. Everything they've done so far has been great, this game-per-year crap doesn't fit in well with their track record.

Yup I think thats why Harmonix left Activion/Guitar Hero as well.

[Sang]

Milk :o

[Fjallraven]

I really like the idea about a vietnam CoD... I think Vietcong is a great game, but I need better graphics :tinyted::tinyted::tinyted:. In the hands of Treyarch I think they can make a good Vietnam game.

I think a Iraq game would be too controversial... I think Treyarch would get into a lot of trouble for that.

I don't think the "milk" opinion is very good. Since they take turns and have two years each, I don't concider it "milking".

[Sang]

What do you mean, it's not milking? They're all near-identical games (not saying they're bad) in the same franchise with a new installment released every year. Developer is irrelevant, it's all about the name. If they call this Treyarch's Shooter nobody would really care and would probably call it a Call of Duty ripoff ;)

[Hudson]

No IW = No CoD.

[Needle]

I think a Iraq game would be too controversial... I think Treyarch would get into a lot of trouble for that.
There wouldn't be a point for that anyway. If they want a shooter in a middle easter setting, they can just as well use a fictional threat. Which they already did in Cod 4. There are only two possible reasons to have it take place in a real war that still wages on today: crude provocation or to make a political statement. Both bad ideas.

[Bludd]

Meh, I'm bored of the CoD formula. It is very intense, but it is so limited due to the scripted nature of the game. I only played the CoD4 demo, but the hordes of respawning enemies the computer controlled characters were fighting annoyed me to no end. If I didn't go through the door the game wanted me to, the computer controlled characters would fight the respawning enemies until our Sun burns out. Meh, and another meh.

[John]

Seriously, CoD4 *just* came out.

Call of Duty 1 and 2 were great (imo, atleast in terms of war games), and now they've turned the series into another EA-fest.

[Cleric]

Please be Vietnam, no one has done it justice yet.

That's my only hope. If it's anything else, I won't be interested. But I'm not sure if the COD gameplay will work well in the jungles and stuff . . .city areas would obviously be fine, but I'm not sure about the wilderness. Also, I don't mean to gripe, but Vietnam was pretty violent. COD would have to up the gore level to make it feel like a decent Vietnam game. There was a 3rd person shooter out for consoles (Vietcong, I think?) that handles it pretty well, it was very gritty and mature.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, a lot of people didn't think CoD's gameplay would work well in Modern Warfare... but it was great.

I would kill for a CoD: Vietnam... but only if it was done by IW.

With CoD5 being made by Treyarch I have little faith in it.

[Cleric]

Treyarch picked it up? They didn't mention that on IGN (that's where I first saw this news). I'm familiar with the name, but no games come to mind . . .is that a bad thing? o.0

[Damien_Azreal]

Call of Duty 3

Treyarch did that, not sure if they did any of the other GameCube and PS2 CoD games either. CoD3 was pretty bland, it felt like a copy of CoD2.... but a poorly done copy.

[Sang]

Well they made COD: Big Red One (I think) and CoD3. IIRC it has ex-Gray Matter members on board (which, in turn, are ex-Xatrix (or was it Interplay) members!)

[Cleric]

I didn't mind COD3 too much. I still think that it's the most fun I've had with a multiplayer shooter, but the singleplayer was so-so.

I don't know, I still haven't even picked up COD4. I love WWII games, but I hope that isn't the case for COD5. I need to try a new franchise, maybe I'll try out Brothers In Arms.

[MegaMustaine]

There was a 3rd person shooter out for consoles (Vietcong, I think?) that handles it pretty well, it was very gritty and mature.

Nam 67. I like it but many people don't. It isn't great, but it could be much worse.

[Damien_Azreal]

So far the best Vietnam based game, IMO, is Vietcong. But it had it's share of problems. I would love to see Infinity Ward put it's polish and style towards Nam.

[Hudson]

Well, admittedly.. at this point I would take a CoD Vietnam even if it wasn't done by IW.

I have CoD3 for the 360, and while it lacks every bit of flair that the IW games have.. it's really not a bad title.

That and I would just KILL for a decent Vietnam FPS.. Vietcong can only be replayed so many times ;)

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

FUTURE WARFARE!!!

;)

[Telee]

Activision announced they want to bring out a new Call of Duty game every year.

Oh, man.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Call of Duty 2009
- Updated rosters

[Steve]

FUTURE WARFARE!!!

;)

With plasma guns and more guns with err... lights!

Don't give them ideas... :o

[Acid]

COD5 Wild West Shootout

[Steve]

COD5 Wild West Shootout

Or COD5: Food fight of honor ;)

[peoplessi]

Possibly it is a true singleplayer experience this time, since CoD4 is multiplayer game with a short and not-good singleplayer clued to it. It is good in multiplayer, but that's basically it, and you pay money for that.

[Damien_Azreal]

What? CoD4's single player may have been short, but it was awesome. Very intense, good story and with great pacing.

I think had it been longer it would've started feeling dragged out.

Of course this IMO, but I loved CoD4's single player.... it was great.

[ZuljinRaynor]

CoD 5 is only gonna be a roster update. Seriously.

:p

[psyborg]

Guys don't get your hopes up for Vietnam or Iraq this is just gonna be a standalone full priced map pack for Modern Warfare. Infinity Ward might be cooking up an actual new game for Call of Duty 6 that will no doubt come out holidays 2009.

CoD 5 is only gonna be a roster update. Seriously.

:p

Haha, right.

[Decker]

CoD4 is multiplayer game with a short and not-good singleplayer clued to it.

Strongly disagreed regarding SP. As short and simplistic as it was, the gunplay was fantastic, as was the atmosphere, varying settings and... almost everything except the depth.

The flashback sniping/sneaking mission (All Ghillied Up), 'Shock And Awe' and the mission building up to it and the AC-130 mission are absolutely brilliant shooter moments in their own right. And 'No Fighting in the War Room' is the most LOL mission title I've heard in a while.

But yes, it's still the multiplayer part that carries this game beyond the 6 hour mark. The SP could use a little more attention and thought.

[Cleric]

COD5: The Crusades.

[Hudson]

a short and not-good singleplayer clued to it.

I thought the SP was absolutely amazing, albeit short.

[peoplessi]

Atmosphere consisted of respawning enemies, it just didn't reinvent the series in anyway to justify the scores it has gathered. It is sub 90/100 for me, the SP. MP is great fun.

[Hudson]

The MP is the most fun i've had with an online game in eons, even over Battlefield.

[Damien_Azreal]

Call of Duty 5 will return to World War 2 setting.

http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_news.phtml?id=120807_2

http://shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50278

Not sure what i think of this. I really enjoyed CoD4's setting, but was worried about Treyarch screwing it up... but I'm not sure I want to go back to WW2 either.

[Komb.at]

COD5: The Crusades.

oooooooohhhhh i didn't read this till now ....

we have a winner!

this would be awesome, i dig medieval warefare :)

[FrozeN91]

Call of Duty 5 will return to World War 2 setting.That's bad news for me. I'm getting pretty tired of WW2 games..

[Micki!]

If there's gotta be a COD 5, Infinity Ward should make it... Call this one whatever they want, but don't let it be another "official" sequel, i think it's sad those things happen to great names like this...

[Damien_Azreal]

What really sucks, is these guys did CoD3... and it was console only. But CoD2 and CoD4 were both on PC as well. Felt really odd not have a 3 in there.

[Micki!]

What really sucks, is these guys did CoD3... and it was console only. But CoD2 and CoD4 were both on PC as well. Felt really odd not have a 3 in there.

Yes, that kind of thing bothers me...

[sawn_off]

I was just thinking I'd like a new WW2 Call of Duty with the new graphics and the create-a-class.

Sounds good, long as they lose those damned airtstrikes and martyrdom......

[Betelgeuse]

Considering the past, Perhaps they're going into a pattern of a "Console release" from Treyarch one year, and then the next year infinity ward comes out with the next game for the "PC"...

/speculation

[Hudson]

Console only + backpedaling to WW2 = Suck

[Steve]

WW2? Oh man I'm already bored!

[ZuljinRaynor]

WW2 + PC = Me happy.
WW2 + Console = Me no care.

[Cleric]

I was just thinking I'd like a new WW2 Call of Duty with the new graphics and the create-a-class.

Sounds good, long as they lose those damned airtstrikes and martyrdom......

Martyrdom is such a pain in the ass until you get to use it yourself :p

But I don't know about going back to WW2. I'd still really like to see a 'Nam setting.

[Damien_Azreal]

I to vote for Vietnam.

But not by Treyarch, I want a good Nam FPS dammit.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Full Metal Jacket references all around in a Vietnam game please. :p

[Damien_Azreal]

No please.

I would like a serious Vietnam shooter. :p If I want to play a stereotype driven FPS in Nam... I'll simply play Men of Valor... and cry to myself about it later.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Call of Duty had references to movies I believe though...

Like the first Russian level boat scene was like straigh outta Enemy at the Gates.

[Destroyer]

I think it really sucks that they are taking the EA approach to call of duty. a new iteration of the game every year.

[Reaper]

WW2 + PC = Me happy.
WW2 + Console = Me no care.
I don't see what everyone's problem is with WW2. There are quite a few good WW2 games, and there are still many points of view unused. Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway looks to be another great WW2 game.

I think all this WW2 anti-hype is way too overblown. WW2 may be a "tired" genre, but that doesn't mean there are games coming out in it that aren't deserving of praise.

[sawn_off]

Considering how many people here fall in love with another generic sci-fi FPS every couple of months, I find the WW2 hate pretty hypocritical.

[Blue Lightning]

They need to try a WWI setting. Call of Duty: Battle of the Somme, or something like that. No one has done WWI, and I think it would be very different indeed. Plus there were tanks in WWI, so we could still drive tanks!

Also, I wouldn't mind an American civil war game from CoD, although the civil war has been done in an FPS. I think the musket re-load would be hilarious, and it would take about 30 seconds to complete.

[hanged_man]

Also, I wouldn't mind an American civil war game from CoD, although the civil war has been done in an FPS. I think the musket re-load would be hilarious, and it would take about 30 seconds to complete.

i've played that one (done by History Channel !!) ..god it sucks, it takes hours to reload, it just makes me wanna shoot whenever i really have to, and i felt so guilty for killing those old people, i felt like shooting my grandpa (if you hate him then you might enjoy it)

[Nacho]

Considering the past, Perhaps they're going into a pattern of a "Console release" from Treyarch one year, and then the next year infinity ward comes out with the next game for the "PC"...

/speculation

Actually that is what they're doing. Infinity Ward works on the "big" CoD game while Treyarch works on a sequel which, while good is meant to fill in the gap till the Ward Version. That way we get a CoD game every year.

[Daveman]

Also, I wouldn't mind an American civil war game from CoD, although the civil war has been done in an FPS. I think the musket re-load would be hilarious, and it would take about 30 seconds to complete.
It really isn't that long. A trained soldier could get off 6 shots in a minute. Musket-bayonet games have been done (BattleGrounds mod for HL/HL2) and they can be quite fun, but I can't imagine single-player would be all that great.

[Damien_Azreal]

I don't see what everyone's problem is with WW2. There are quite a few good WW2 games, and there are still many points of view unused. Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway looks to be another great WW2 game.

That is the problem. There are quite a few good WW2 based games... there are to many. The FPS genre was flooded with WW2 based games there for a while... and now the genre has started to drift away from that.

We don't need to go back do we?

[Reaper]

That is the problem. There are quite a few good WW2 based games... there are to many. The FPS genre was flooded with WW2 based games there for a while... and now the genre has started to drift away from that.

We don't need to go back do we?
Yes. We do. :p

I don't see how too much of a good thing can be bad.

[Steve]

I don't see how too much of a good thing can be bad.
Eat a few bags of cheetos then come back and tell me that ;)

[Damien_Azreal]

Well it's all personal opinion.

But to me, to much of anything can be bad. No matter how good or great it is.... it can wear out it's welcome.

[Orochi Avlis]

GH4 is coming out by the end of the year.
But yet they still haven't fixed that stupid mono bug issue nor have the spare guitars (and faceplates) for sale. Both Wii related.

[Wamplet]

Maybe it's just more practice for the B-team?

Also, as Nacho said, I think this is how they can put out a yearly game, by having more than 1 team work on the games.

Of course this can hurt them just as much as it can help sales every year.

The one thing i wish they could work on for single player mode is to get rid of all the scripting that is required to run through. It really kills the replay for me.

[CommanderZx2]

Actually that is what they're doing. Infinity Ward works on the "big" CoD game while Treyarch works on a sequel which, while good is meant to fill in the gap till the Ward Version. That way we get a CoD game every year.
Well Gray Matter Interactive made Call of Duty United Offensive. I'd much rather have them make the sequels than Treyarch...

United offensive is so much better than any Treyarch sequel so far.

[Karthik]

Well Gray Matter Interactive made Call of Duty United Offensive. I'd much rather have them make the sequels than Treyarch...

United offensive is so much better than any Treyarch sequel so far.
Gray Matter is part of Treyach.

[CommanderZx2]

Gray Matter is part of Treyach.

Well Call of Duty united offensive was made before that.

It looks like Activision caused the merger, as activision created Treyarch and owned gray matter.

[Damien_Azreal]

You are correct Commander.

Gray Matter was an awesome developer before that buy/merger. But soon after that it just sortof.... meh.

[Kev_Boy]

I don't see how too much of a good thing can be bad.
Eat a few bags of cheetos then come back and tell me that ;)

Not a bad way to put it :)

[Betelgeuse]

Actually that is what they're doing. Infinity Ward works on the "big" CoD game while Treyarch works on a sequel which, while good is meant to fill in the gap till the Ward Version. That way we get a CoD game every year.

ahh ok, i wasn't entirely sure, well at least we get the infinity ward make of a CoD game :D

i never played CoD3 :o

[Daveman]

The CoD console iterations are exactly like the Medal of Honor console iterations. They're all linear, on-rails trash. I played the Medal of Honor game for the Wii and it was exactly like a CoD game. The two series are exactly the same now.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Well, it's not like Call of Duty 1 and 2 weren't bascially on-rails too. ;)

[Damien_Azreal]

Activision has announced new titles and such for the next year.

CoD5 is listed...
Call of Duty 5 to be released before 2009 for PC, PS3, Xbox 360, PS2, Wii.
... for every console and PC. Milk it up boys.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/36578/Activision-Announce-New-Titles

[CommanderZx2]

Activision has announced new titles and such for the next year.

CoD5 is listed...

... for every console and PC. Milk it up boys.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/36578/Activision-Announce-New-Titles

Don't forget the mobile phone release as well.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Oh god... a PC Version? :o I don't know if I should be happy or cringe...

[Damien_Azreal]

Demo... or no buy from me.

[Nessus]

COD4 was one of the biggest titles in the history of gaming, oy course there will be a sequel. Hey Damien there are already 4 demos out for COD5, COD 1-4! They're all the same thing!

[someguy2435]

No please.

I would like a serious Vietnam shooter. :p If I want to play a stereotype driven FPS in Nam... I'll simply play Men of Valor... and cry to myself about it later.

I thought Vietcong was pretty good at avoiding stereotypes. Anyway, I hope IW does 'Nam for COD6

[Damien_Azreal]

No... they are not.

CoD1 and 2... great games. CoD3... meh. Big letdown, not made by Infinity Ward and it showed.
CoD4... the new setting, the improved engine, and amazing shooter. Truly one of the best released last year.

CoD5... back to WW2, not made by Infinity Ward... same team that churned out crap like CoD3. No thank you. :) Demo... or no buy.

[Betelgeuse]

Activision has announced new titles and such for the next year.

CoD5 is listed...

... for every console and PC. Milk it up boys.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/36578/Activision-Announce-New-Titles

oh wow? so it IS coming to pc. demo for me too then, if it tickles my fancy then i will make a purchase.

[Daveman]

Well, it's not like Call of Duty 1 and 2 weren't bascially on-rails too. ;)
A shooter can be on rails without feeling like it's on rails. That was the case for the first two Call of Duty games and wasn't the case for the third. The MoH games are also on rails and don't try to hide it (Airborne Assault is still on rails, it just doesn't have a set starting point all the time).

[ZuljinRaynor]

A shooter can be on rails without feeling like it's on rails. That was the case for the first two Call of Duty games and wasn't the case for the third. The MoH games are also on rails and don't try to hide it (Airborne Assault is still on rails, it just doesn't have a set starting point all the time).
Well, the third one seemed to be hidden too for the most part.

[Blue Lightning]

COD4 was one of the biggest titles in the history of gaming, oy course there will be a sequel.

Huh? Mabey CoD 1 is "one of the biggest titles in the history of gaming", but I wouldn't go so far as to say CoD 4 is...not just yet. ;)

I'm really thinking CoD 6 will be WWI...just got a feeling about that.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, Infinity Ward will be doing CoD6 and they've said in interviews they were very happy to finally leave the WW2 setting. I don't think they will go backwards... they will most likely stick with the modern warfare setting for another title.

[Nessus]

CoD5... back to WW2, not made by Infinity Ward... same team that churned out crap like CoD3. .


Ahh I hadn't realized it wasn't the same team making it. I should have ommitted COD3 from my post as I never even saw it in action never mind played it. To me this is a sequel in name only. I'm only interested in the next game by the core team.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, CoD3 was made by Treyarch and it was nowhere near as good as the CoD games made by Infinity Ward.

Treyarch are the developer making CoD5 as well... hence my rather large lack of faith in their ability to deliver.

[big fat lazy]

The 5 minute demo of CoD3 I played was enough for me to avoid it. I doubt COD5 will be different.

[Echo Black]

COD3 was a piece of shit. If it didn't have "Call of Duty" in the title, it wouldn't have sold over 10 copies. COD1, COD2 and COD4 ftw.

[psyborg]

I know Activision needs to use the name for financial reasons, trickery, etc, but as gamers maybe we should just consider COD4 & 6 "Mondern Warfare 1 & 2"?

[Cleric]

Uh-oh . . . (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/856/856851p1.html)

Activision + Vivendi = Blizzard possibly lending a hand to this . . .I've never played World of Warcraft, but I've seen how addicting it is. This could be bad, but so good at the same time. Discuss!

[Telee]

Could be decent if done right, I suppose... Still, I'm a little skeptical.

I'm not holding my breath on this.

[ZuljinRaynor]

It'll be like World War II Online... possibly sucking as much or more OR it might be good.

[Betelgeuse]

yeah i think it could work if done well, another "wait and see" kind of deal, i guess.

[psyborg]

Interesting.

[Cleric]

Seeing as how the idea was just floated around, nothing is official yet. Still, I'd like to see what ideas they could come up with for this.

[Mr.Fibbles]

Since a lot of people play the games online anyway, how is this different? That is other than not having a single-player? Maybe charging you money to play every month. . .
Of course, I am not a fan of MMO in general. There are too many stupid people in the world right now.

[HazMat]

I always liked the idea of a MMO but yeah Mr.Fibbles is right, it will be flooded with asshats who ruin it but with a close group of gamers it could be fun.

[The Stinger]

CoD Master: WTS gold Scoped Lee-Enfield accuracy +3 HRT 20% chance - 15k
Snipah: OMG sux! Cod Master is a nub!
Bomber Ace: Running to Normandy - 2k per player
Fisher: Hello! Give me money plz!

[Cleric]

^That just destroyed my hopes for this already. Thanks :doh:

[Superczar]

How I mine for K-Rations?

[Hudson]

CoD Master: WTS gold Scoped Lee-Enfield accuracy +3 HRT 20% chance - 15k
Snipah: OMG sux! Cod Master is a nub!
Bomber Ace: Running to Normandy - 2k per player
Fisher: Hello! Give me money plz!

Bahahaha

[big fat lazy]

Well as long as there aren't any elves.

[Sang]

So what's gonna happen once the Russians take over Berlin? Game starts over? ;)

[leilei]

hi
i am a level 80 nazi
will you marry me!

[MAT]

hi
i am a level 80 nazi
will you marry me!

lol :D

[Cleric]

So what's gonna happen once the Russians take over Berlin? Game starts over? ;)

Who's to say this will be a WW2 game? I mean, this is all just speculation, but I would think that another modern setting would be a better choice for this kind of game. I wouldn't think that WW2 would leave much room for customizable weapons and the like, and you KNOW that would be in the game after COD 4's success with it.

[Sang]

mmkay

I don't see how they'll manage to make it believable though. I mean soldiers generally aren't one-man-army loners, are they?

[hellchicken]

Who's to say this will be a WW2 game? I mean, this is all just speculation, but I would think that another modern setting would be a better choice for this kind of game. I wouldn't think that WW2 would leave much room for customizable weapons and the like, and you KNOW that would be in the game after COD 4's success with it.

In my mind there's this great idea that it would rule if this game wasn't based on just one war but on a couple.
Imagine a MMO Shooter were the weapons and equipment you use depend on the type of map you're playing: European and Russian battlefields in a WW2 scenario, Jungle Warfare a'la Vietnam and of course Middle-Eastern and Rural combat zones in a modern day setting.

After all they do have the assets from all their previous games (CoD 1-3 and CoD4MW), reusing them and maybe creating some new wouldn't be too much work, would it?

If it's Modern Warfare only I'd be happy, too. But if it's another WW2 shooter then I wont care for it. Surely there's other conflicts that we can recreate in a video game, but WW2, c'mon, *yawn*.

[Denz]

no

it will fail

to many degrees


they should keep offering high quality epic single player game, with a fast paced mp.

[Sang]

Middle-Eastern and Rural combat zones in a modern day setting.

Maybe they should be more original and not automatically associate "modern combat" with "middle-east" and "russian arms dealers giving nukes to middle-eastern terrorists". :o

[Karthik]

My suggestion is to go with the US going rouge on the rest of the world. It begins with US invading Canada and then slowly taking over South America. After that a counter attack on Japan slowly making their way to Russian shores.
The Russians fight back with help China. And suddenly the Great Britain is wiped off the map by USA's 15 strong tactical nuke. Parts of Europe end up with the same fate. South East Asia is pulled into the war when Australia side with the US. A coalition of Russia and Asia is formed against the US/AU world domination.

[Cleric]

It begins with US invading Canada and then slowly taking over South America.

That'll be the 3-minute tutorial level :p

[hellchicken]

Maybe they should be more original and not automatically associate "modern combat" with "middle-east" and "russian arms dealers giving nukes to middle-eastern terrorists". :o

Yes, my thinking, too. I'd love modern day battlefields in or around major american, australian and european cities/regions. Nothing like urban combat in western (infra-)structures.
What I meant in previous statement was the fact that the Middle-Eastern and Russian assets are already provided for.

[Mr.Fibbles]

It begins with US invading Canada and then slowly taking over South America.

That'll be the 3-minute tutorial level :p


LOL

How does one do a MMO army game? That is the traditional MMO? America's Army is MMO (for all intents and purposes) and so is TF2 and much of the Orange Box and HL stuff aside from HL itself.
I doubt this will be like any MMORPG, but more Online Only with rewards and such. You get so many kills and you are ranked higher and get more options for guns or something. You could also have more "power" as it were in the game itself since you are ranked so high.

[peoplessi]

So are all previous CoD versions if that would define it :)

[Mr.Fibbles]

^exactly my point.
So many FPS are played online so much more than the anything else. There are some games where people don't even play the single player campaign and just go online right away.

[hellchicken]

MMO is just fancy term for multiplayer game. CoD and RPGs don't mix, but I could see them go the QW:ET or Battlefield route in gameplay design.

As far as FPS and RPGs are concerned though, let's see what Fallout 3 brings to the table. Anything else is either just fragfest or magical quest. :)

[sawn_off]

One thing I think needs pointing out here is that it's one hundred percent hypothetical and hasn't been announced or confirmed or anything yet.

I'd play it, though.

[Denz]

if they make it it better not be level but ranks

seriously guises

[Cleric]

One thing I think needs pointing out here is that it's one hundred percent hypothetical and hasn't been announced or confirmed or anything yet.

I'd play it, though.

It's been pointed out already, but it doesn't hurt to repeat it around here :p

Kidding guys! I probably just made some enemies . . .

[Fjallraven]

At first, you guys made me nervous. Now, I think that it will be just another CoD game. Nothing special.

[Cleric]

Well, here are the plans for the next COD game coming sometime before March '09.
Wait, did I get that date right?
[re-reads article]

. . .sonofabitch.

For God's sake, give it some more time! At least wait until people get a little bored with COD4 . . .

Source (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/872/872797p1.html)

Still no word on who's developing it.

[sawn_off]

So now Call of Duty 5 IS being developed by Infinity Ward, and it's NOT WWII?

Also, you're not even a little bored with COD4 yet?

[alexgk]

Player1: "Look at me, I'm Hitler"

Player2: "What are you talking about? All I can see is that you're a big pink rabbit!"

Player1: "Oh, I forgot. You're from Germany"

[Cleric]

So now Call of Duty 5 IS being developed by Infinity Ward, and it's NOT WWII?

Also, you're not even a little bored with COD4 yet?

No, I'm not bored with COD4 since I play it with my friends. And IW still hasn't been named as the developer, but it at least isn't WW2 again. They said that there are a lot of areas in the world that are rife with conflict, so they shouldn't have a problem choosing a new location.

[sawn_off]

I guess once you hit level 55 and you get all the Golden Guns, you don't have much to look forward to. Aside from airstrike spam, that is.

I wouldn't mind another WWII Call of Duty at all though.

[Cleric]

^Or prestige mode :p

Like I said, I don't get bored with this game because I play when my friends are playing. It's a lot more boring if you don't know anybody you're playing with online.

[superevilcube]

I didn't feel like making a new thread, so...

Call of Duty: World at War (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/09/call-of-duty-world-at-war-revealed-treyarch-to-develop/) - developed by Treyarch and will take place in the Pacific in WWII.

I guess going back to WWII won't be that bad if the manage to make it different from CoD 1 - 3. Hopefully for the multiplayer they'll incorporate all the things that makes CoD4's awesome (like perks and customized classes).

[Sang]

According to the article, Treyarch aims to "explore the darkest corners of WWII," giving the military shooter more of a survival horror flavor by "tackling darker themes" and pitting players against a "new, seemingly alien fighting force."

No thanks, I'll pass.

[peoplessi]

Hopefully for the multiplayer they'll incorporate all the things that makes CoD4's awesome (like perks and customized classes).

Those features are great for public play, but for clanplay not so much.

[Daveman]

I didn't feel like making a new thread, so...

Call of Duty: World at War (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/09/call-of-duty-world-at-war-revealed-treyarch-to-develop/) - developed by Treyarch and will take place in the Pacific in WWII.

I guess going back to WWII won't be that bad if the manage to make it different from CoD 1 - 3. Hopefully for the multiplayer they'll incorporate all the things that makes CoD4's awesome (like perks and customized classes).

IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/880/880288p1.html) says it's not just the Pacific. And it's got 4-player online co-op - confirmed for Xbox Live at least.

[sawn_off]

it's got 4-player online co-op - confirmed for Xbox Live at least.

This translates to "single player with crappy squad commands and A.I." on the PC.

[Cleric]

Boo Treyarch, but yay to the Pacific front. There haven't been many games at all that have covered that side of the war as far as I know.

[Damien_Azreal]

According to the article, Treyarch aims to "explore the darkest corners of WWII," giving the military shooter more of a survival horror flavor by "tackling darker themes" and pitting players against a "new, seemingly alien fighting force."

What the hell? An alien fighting force... excuse me.. but what in the f**k?

[Cleric]

"Seemingly alien", DA. Don't worry :p

They'd have to be incredibly stupid to do something like that . . .right?:(

[Damien_Azreal]

Still seemingly alien... I still go with what the hell. What, in WW2 was seemingly alien? It just sounds like a really bad idea.

[Cleric]

Maybe they mean something along the lines of "gamers haven't really experienced fighting the Japanese side of WWII yet". Or maybe they've just gone completely off their rocker.

[boglito]

Still seemingly alien... I still go with what the hell. What, in WW2 was seemingly alien? It just sounds like a really bad idea.

It's Treyarch, how much worse could it be? Let Infinity Ward make the real Call of Duty's and let Treyarch do whatever they want with their odd numbers. Who knows, maybe they make something different and fun.

[Damien_Azreal]

Maybe they mean something along the lines of "gamers haven't really experienced fighting the Japanese side of WWII yet". Or maybe they've just gone completely off their rocker.

I'm voting for the "completely off their rocker" option. :)

[Cleric]

I'm voting for the "completely off their rocker" option. :)

Seconded.

[Loke]

Debut trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35412.html

[Sang]

Looked uninteresting. Will need more.

[hellchicken]

Debut trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35412.html

Hm, at least the trailer looks visceral and exciting, maybe there's a little hope yet.
I figured how awesome it'd be, if you could use those flamethrowers and swords ingame. :D

I'm a sucker for flamethrowers and swords. :p

[Nessus]

I'm still waiting for the holy grail of wargaming. a unified theatre of all the gamers. Submarine simmers, aircraft carrier simmers, launching flight simmers off the deck. FPS soldiers under the command of RPG or strategy gamers. It probably can't work for real but it would be cool.

[Sang]

FPS soldiers under the command of RPG or strategy gamers.

I've been wanting that for such a long time now. Would be awesome participating in a huge Conscript attack in Red Alert 2 as an actual Conscript :D

[Cleric]

Man, those graphics are pretty as hell.

Like I said before, there haven't been many games focusing on the Pacific side of the war. I'm not taking this one off my radar just yet.

[Acid]

Flame throwers, it looks like Vietnam abit.. im sold, lets hope it does well.

[Daveman]

No PS3 version? :confused: I see "Games For Windows" and I see Xbox 360, but no PS3...

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, saw that as well.

Oh well, seeing as how it's not being made by Infinity Ward... I doubt it would be worth it anyway.

[Daveman]

I guess it's just that the trailer was exclusively released on Xbox Live Marketplace, so they didn't throw the PS3 tag on there.

[Cleric]

Preview is up on IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/883/883381p1.html).

-Treyarch has had their hands on the Modern Warfare engine a year before IW got it for COD4.
-2 campaigns - Russian and American.
-Multiple paths to take in a mission (not to be mistaken with multiple objectives).
-The Japanese are promised to be much more dynamic and brutal than Germans, using surprise attacks, hiding in the bushes and trees, etc. Because of this, the game itself will have a darker and grittier tone.
-Split screen and online co-op for up to four players :D:D:D
-Self-adjusting difficulty in co-op depending on the number of players and their stats.
-Multiplayer will follow COD4's lead with unlockable weapons / skills and create-a-class.

[hellchicken]

Preview is up on IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/883/883381p1.html).

-Split screen and online co-op for up to four players :D:D:D


This caught my eye. :)

Perhaps the most impressive new feature in World at War is the four-player cooperative mode, which lets you and three other buddies go through the single-player campaign together. It's a first for the series, and it'll support split screen on a single display or four players online. Plus, the game will scale its difficulty based on how many players, and how good they are

Well neato, the information about this game so far make it at least seem not too bad. And Co-Op SP Campaign mode alone puts this on my "to play list".

[TBZ]

-The Japanese are promised to be much more dynamic and brutal than Germans, using surprise attacks, hiding in the bushes and trees, etc. Because of this, the game itself will have a darker and grittier tone.

Soooo.. Closet Japanese a'la Doom 3? I'm so very excited about this! Woo!

:p

[Cleric]

^Ouch . . .:p

But hell, if that's what they did in the war, then so be it ;)

The preview says Treyarch is using first hand accounts from war veterans to get the scenarios right. One thing they talked about was how they learned that Japanese snipers would tie themselves into trees and wait for days for the enemy. They'd intentionally wound a target to try and draw others out in the open and aid the guy that was hit.

Bastards . . .:D

[Damien_Azreal]

The Japanese were ruthless in their tactics, much like the Vietnamese were extremely brutal and cold.

War is completely different to them. I would love for this game to be good, to surprise me and actually be worthy of the CoD name. But, I have yet to see Teryarch do a good CoD title... so I'm very hesitant about getting excited for it.

[Reaper]

The Japanese were ruthless in their tactics, much like the Vietnamese were extremely brutal and cold.

War is completely different to them. I would love for this game to be good, to surprise me and actually be worthy of the CoD name. But, I have yet to see Teryarch do a good CoD title... so I'm very hesitant about getting excited for it.
Well, Grey Matter was absorbed into Treyarch, so they do have the United Offensive expansion pack going for them. But that is if they do, in fact, still have the same people working on it.

To their credit they were only given 8 months for CoD 3. (According to The Shack (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53273))

Preview is up on IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/883/883381p1.html).

-Treyarch has had their hands on the Modern Warfare engine a year before IW got it for COD4.
-2 campaigns - Russian and American.
-Multiple paths to take in a mission (not to be mistaken with multiple objectives).
-The Japanese are promised to be much more dynamic and brutal than Germans, using surprise attacks, hiding in the bushes and trees, etc. Because of this, the game itself will have a darker and grittier tone.
-Split screen and online co-op for up to four players :D:D:D
-Self-adjusting difficulty in co-op depending on the number of players and their stats.
-Multiplayer will follow COD4's lead with unlockable weapons / skills and create-a-class.
Great news, other than the "grittier" part. Why does every new game gotta be gritty? It's like everyone's trying to make a Gears clone.

There's a less in-depth and more speculative slash blunt preview over at 1UP.
(http://http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3168366&p=4)

[Nacho]

I don't mind Treyarch's attempts at CoD, they're mindless fun. I hope eventually we get a Vietnam game.

[Echo Black]

I think Treyarch sucks shit. COD3 was a mess (and especially disappointing since it had the COD brand going for it, and was also named as a "canon", numerical entry in the series), and one of the only games I completely regret buying. I'm glad they're making this a non-numerical spinoff (a simple subtitle makes it easier to dismiss as an actual entry after it comes out and sucks[Like their also-terrible COD2: Big Red One]), this way they won't stain the COD name too much.

COD = Infinity Ward. Treyarch, sadly, makes cheap imitations that fool no one.

[Reaper]

I'd hold off saying Treyarch is shit until you actually play their next entry. They may actually live up to "turning their bad reputation around". Unlikely, but possible.

[Cleric]

New preview (http://pc.ign.com/articles/887/887836p1.html) from IGN talking about how Treyarch is trying to mix the gameplay up a bit. 9 New screenshots as well . . .those are some pretty dense jungles :insomnia: : paranoia :

[Cleric]

IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14222039/call-of-duty-5/videos/cod_coopdemo_0715081.html) has a 4 minute co-op video up, being played on two separate consoles. I'm sold on this idea :D

Destructible foliage is in. And those flamethrowers look awesome. Just needs more smoke coming from the aftermath. Kiefer Sutherland is also voicing one of the main characters in the game.

[Sang]

Four years ago Treyarch developed Call of Duty: United Offensive, the expansion pack to the original Call of Duty on the PC, and it featured a level where you manned various machine guns on a US bomber over Germany.

Good lord, at least 3 errors in this quote. :o They oughta replay the game ;)

Anyway going back to Russia doesn't sound that interesting... They should just stick with the Japanese front. I'm pretty sure many players will be annoyed with suddenly being on the Eastern Front again, it'll be one of those gaming moments nobody really likes :p

As for the jungle stuff - well, for now this is as close as we can get to a Vietnam COD ;)

[TBZ]

Doesn't the briefing/soldiers in UO say that they borrowed the bomber planes from the Yanks?

[Sang]

Now that you mention it, yes, oops :o

Maybe it is I who should replay the game.

Still though, The Netherlands aren't Germany :(

[Cleric]

Anyway going back to Russia doesn't sound that interesting... They should just stick with the Japanese front. I'm pretty sure many players will be annoyed with suddenly being on the Eastern Front again, it'll be one of those gaming moments nobody really likes :p

I personally loved the Russian campaigns in COD and COD2 especially. I just love the whole feel they have. It gives off such an Enemy At The Gates vibe, my favorite war film. :D

[Sang]

Well yeah, but come on - For once you get to fight the Japanese. Are you really going to tell me that when you're suddenly back on the Eastern Front fighting nazis, you won't be thinking "HEY WHAT THE FOCK? I WANT TO GO BACK TO SHOOTING JAPANESE DUDES!"? In the previous games it was just fine because you kept fighting the same enemy in more or less the same part of the world.. Here there'd be 2 different theatres altogether.

[Cleric]

^Well, I might say that, but I don't know yet. I still go back and play the Russian campaigns in previous COD games for the hell of it. I'm very excited to finally see a (good) Pacific theater in a game, but those crazy Russians will always have a place in my heart. I welcome the two sides.

[Daveman]

CoD 5 perks leaked (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/689669/Leaked_Call_of_Duty_World_at_War_Perk_List_Seems_L egit.html)...allegedly. Martyrdom is still there. Assuming this is a real list, that means I won't be getting it. How they could leave in a perk that breaks the flow of the game so much (and is even out of place, given the setting) is baffling.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=43&ch=4&sd=1

Zombie Nazi 4 player Coop.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=43&ch=4&sd=1

Zombie Nazi 4 player Coop.

[Cleric]

That's a pretty clever unlockable. I'm sure I'll have fun with that.

[ZuljinRaynor]

So stupid. They see Left 4 Dead, they throw it into this game. Now the two of the most saturated things, WW2 and zombies, are in one package more than Wolfenstein even had it.

[Opus131]

Looks like Blizzard has just lost all rights to their creative freedom if they are going to be directly involved with this. What a disgrace.

[Klaus Kinski]

Yeah it's silly and not very innovative but...
Common! It's not just shooting Nazis or Zombies, it's Nazi Zombies! You gotta have a warm, fuzzy spot in your heart for that. I just hope there's a cheat/option that turns the enemies into Zombies in SP too.

[M-Jay]

Lef4Duty or is it Call of Wolfenstein?

However as long as its fun, why not? I am looking forward to play it.

[Phait]

Er it says nothing in that video about zombies.

[Klaus Kinski]

Ee, then you watched the wrong one. :)

[M-Jay]

Er it says nothing in that video about zombies.

it is AFTER the mirrors edge part.

[Phait]

Ah, well whatever was linked was Call of Duty World At War.

[M-Jay]

Ah, well whatever was linked was Call of Duty World At War.

You need to watch the video for longer:
It is: CoD, Mirros Edge, CoD Nazi Zombies!

Here the infos out of the video:

unlocked once sp is completed,
unlimited waves of zombies are coming to you,
you need money (points?) to rebuild barricades and to open new ways for you
4 players
looks bloody

[Acid]

Looks good, a WW2 game,which i prefer over Modern warfare..and you get zombies at the end of it, once youve finished the full game, nice. :)

[Nacho]

I think thats a really awesome extra for when you beat the game.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Ah, well whatever was linked was Call of Duty World At War.

It's the last silver bar.

[Klaus Kinski]

unlimited waves of zombies are coming to you,

Didn't they say it's maximum 23 waves?
The more I think about it, the more I like it. It's like UT2004's Invasion mode, just cooler. I hope they have a Hitler Zombie. :D

[TBZ]

Didn't they say it's maximum 23 waves?

I think they said that the developers survived for 23 waves, that was their "high score", and the waves are unlimited.

[Echo Black]

Treyarch never ceases to amaze me (in a bad way). :mryuck:


In all seriousness though, this looks like decent fun. Albeit weird as hell, and not at all expected. :confused:

[sawn_off]

Eh. Valve wasn't the first to do a Zombie shooter. Overall I think it's great to see more games and developers lightening the hell up, laying off the super serious business that's stuffed into all those army guy shooters.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Eh. Valve wasn't the first to do a Zombie shooter. Overall I think it's great to see more games and developers lightening the hell up, laying off the super serious business that's stuffed into all those army guy shooters.

So not only is World War 2 saturated, but zombies now even more! Why not mix them together for ultimate lolz!?

[sawn_off]

Why not indeed!

[Klaus Kinski]

So not only is World War 2 saturated, but zombies now even more! Why not mix them together for ultimate lolz!?

Dude, it's a free addition you get after finishing the game. It's not a major selling point, just a free game mode they added to it (on top of the others). Since when has this become a bad thing. If you dislike it, it's not an integral part of the game, it's not like you are required to play it.

[d3ad connection]

So not only is World War 2 saturated, but zombies now even more! Why not mix them together for ultimate lolz!?

... Wolfenstein?!

[ZuljinRaynor]

Dude, it's a free addition you get after finishing the game. It's not a major selling point, just a free game mode they added to it (on top of the others). Since when has this become a bad thing. If you dislike it, it's not an integral part of the game, it's not like you are required to play it.

It still feels like "OH LOOK LEFT 4 DEAD! YAY LET'S ADD THIS AS A BONUS!!! OGM MONEY!"

Oh and since it says Treyarh on the box, that's why I'm not required to play it.

... Wolfenstein?!

Woflenstein is a granddaddy though so he has his rights. ;)

[Yatta]

I played the 360 multiplayer beta. This game is not my cup of tea.

I felt the multiplayer offers nothing new. It's like a mix of Quake 3 and Battlefield 1942 with graphics comparable to UT2004.

[Klaus Kinski]

It still feels like "OH LOOK LEFT 4 DEAD! YAY LET'S ADD THIS AS A BONUS!!! OGM MONEY!"

Oh and since it says Treyarh on the box, that's why I'm not required to play it.
Do you really think they added this in the hope to sell much more copies just because of that?
Yeah, they probably just copied Left4Dead but why give a crap? It happens all the time in gaming and some ideas are just that common. Nobody says Left 4 Dead copied Dead Rising either. It's silly, yes, but IMO not a reason to get all worked up about it.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Do you really think they added this in the hope to sell much more copies just because of that?
Yeah, they probably just copied Left4Dead but why give a crap? It happens all the time in gaming and some ideas are just that common. Nobody says Left 4 Dead copied Dead Rising either. It's silly, yes, but IMO not a reason to get all worked up about it.

I'm only worked up about it because... wait I'm not. It doesn't change my opinion of being completely stupid. Minigame or not or just feels stupid to me. Doesn't surprise me that Treyarch is on the box when something like this happens to this series.

It may be a fun mode, though I won't be getting the game for one mode since Treyarch will probably drop the ball on the regular game... It's what they do.

[Klaus Kinski]

It seems to me your sole problem is the developer and not the included game modes.

[ZuljinRaynor]

It seems to me your sole problem is the developer and not the included game modes.

It's in both.

[Cleric]

As much as I wasn't impressed with COD3's singleplayer, I had a lot of fun with it online. Yes, this game is made by Treyarch, but it's on the same engine as COD4, and they've been working on the game since before Activision started on Modern Warfare. The multiplayer has the things that make COD4's so enjoyable, and builds on it with more perks, some larger maps, and vehicles (providing the vehicles are balanced correctly).

I'll still give it a try, because (a.) I'm a sucker for anything World War II, and (b.) the new setting should feel fresh after pounding terrorists in the Middle East for so long in COD4. I'm expecting the same stuff from all the other COD games in terms of singleplayer: very linear, with lots of scripted events. IMO So what if the SP is sub-par if all you're going to care about is multiplayer, right? :D If it's done right, it's worth it.

And I don't see how the bonus game mode relates to Left 4 Dead except for the inclusion of zombies, and the relative closeness of the games' release dates. Methinks it's coincidence. I bet it'll be fun on those long nights of drinking with a bunch of your friends.

[Damien_Azreal]

I didn't even realize... I had ever registered at Call of Duty's website or forum.

I just checked my e-mail for the first time in a few weeks. And there's a link to retrieve my beta key. :p

[Decker]

I'm hearing a lot of bad talk from Cod2/Cod4 fans that Tryarch has f'ed up again. Starting from character movement and animation.

[KaiserSoze]

Here's my beta key for the PC version of COD: WOW.

Don't need it.

7J3S-MTCM-WWS9-TQ9C-DDE9

[bobthefish]

im not impressed by the beta. the quake 3 engine is just too old to do this stuff. they have to mod it so hard jsut to do this stuff. they should license unreal 3, or even renderware for COD games.

the gameplay is just the same old thing. nothing special added. just dogs that run around and kill people, and ive seen 1 drivable tank.

[Echo Black]

I'm hearing a lot of bad talk from Cod2/Cod4 fans that Tryarch has f'ed up again. Starting from character movement and animation.

If true, the least surprising thing to ever happen in the history of gaming releases.

[TBZ]

Is it just me, or is the FOV way to small? Everything feels so, close to your face.
Because of the consoles maybe? Since you generally sit further away when playing on consoles.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yep.

The game's FOV feels like it's at around 65 or so, same as Quantom of Solace. Since it's on the CoD4 engine it should be easy enough to simply modify a file and bring the FOV to 70 or 90.

[TBZ]

The beta also seem to have some issues when selecting resolutions, I decided to see if the game still handled widescreen properly.
I changed from a 16:9 res, to a standard 4:3 one, and the game just squished the image to fit 4:3, when I had Aspect Ratio set to Auto. Had to set it to 4:3 manually to get it to display the image properly.

[peoplessi]

Not impressed at all. So un-imaginative, total quick cash-in before Call of Duty 6. Poor sounds, poor gameplay design, poor setting. The guns are un-balanced, the sound effects are lame and weak. Essentially it's a CoD4 in new setting. They did this game for how long? It didn't impress me in anyway. Another funny thing is that you can't join a game your friend is in straight from the friends menu, you have to be invited by that said friend. Cumbersome, stupid, why?

im not impressed by the beta. the quake 3 engine is just too old to do this stuff. they have to mod it so hard jsut to do this stuff. they should license unreal 3, or even renderware for COD games.

the gameplay is just the same old thing. nothing special added. just dogs that run around and kill people, and ive seen 1 drivable tank.

Comparing that to Quake 3 engine, is like comparing apples to oranges. The engine is derived from there, but it's totally different at the same time.

[Daveman]

Another funny thing is that you can't join a game your friend is in straight from the friends menu, you have to be invited by that said friend. Cumbersome, stupid, why?

Are you playing on PC? Because this sounds like what usually is the case with games on PSN. I'm not sure if it's what happens on Live too, but it could be consolized interface.

[Echo Black]

Got around to trying the PC "Beta". From what I've played, it sucks ass, but maybe the SP is good. Who knows. :(

...Who am I kidding. I have a feeling Infinity Ward really hates the shit stains Treyarch leaves on their franchise every couple of years with their filler, imitation releases. It must be spirit-crushing.

I feel the urge to be a smartass and go "Ha, called it!", but this is more sad than anything. I'm not necessarily against frequent releases, but from what I gather, this is the bad kind of milking - The one where you put out cash-in titles of inconsistent quality between each good one. It basically screams "we don't even give a **** anymore". This cheapens an IP's impact immensely, IMO. At this rate, whenever a new COD is announced, gamers will simply go "Oh, is it that time of the year again? Damn, time flies!" and don't give it further thought.

[bobthefish]

Got around to trying the PC "Beta". From what I've played, it sucks ass, but maybe the SP is good. Who knows. :(

...Who am I kidding. I have a feeling Infinity Ward really hates the shit stains Treyarch leaves on their franchise every couple of years with their filler, imitation releases. It must be spirit-crushing.

I feel the urge to be a smartass and go "Ha, called it!", but this is more sad than anything. I'm not necessarily against frequent releases, but from what I gather, this is the bad kind of milking - The one where you put out cash-in titles of inconsistent quality between each good one. It basically screams "we don't even give a **** anymore". This cheapens an IP's impact immensely, IMO. At this rate, whenever a new COD is announced, gamers will simply go "Oh, is it that time of the year again? Damn, time flies!" and don't give it further thought.



+1
very true

[bobthefish]

Not impressed at all. So un-imaginative, total quick cash-in before Call of Duty 6. Poor sounds, poor gameplay design, poor setting. The guns are un-balanced, the sound effects are lame and weak. Essentially it's a CoD4 in new setting. They did this game for how long? It didn't impress me in anyway. Another funny thing is that you can't join a game your friend is in straight from the friends menu, you have to be invited by that said friend. Cumbersome, stupid, why?



Comparing that to Quake 3 engine, is like comparing apples to oranges. The engine is derived from there, but it's totally different at the same time.

true, but instead of having to revamp an old engine (which takes alot of time), they could licence a modern one and focus more on the damn idiot mistakes in the game (like like the fairly inconsistant textures on some of the guns compared to the enviroment. chough tompson cough!)

[Damien_Azreal]

Does anyone want a beta key?

I don't want mine anymore. Just send a PM and that'll be it.

[Blue Lightning]

Got around to trying the PC "Beta". From what At this rate, whenever a new COD is announced, gamers will simply go "Oh, is it that time of the year again? Damn, time flies!" and don't give it further thought.

How true. Loved CoD 1 and its add-on "United Offensive"...works of art...history making! But starting with CoD 2, the CoD games were not made as well (except mabey Finest Hour, but that didnt get a PC release). I stopped paying attention after that to the franchise.

[Steve]

How true. Loved CoD 1 and its add-on "United Offensive"...works of art...history making! But starting with CoD 2, the CoD games were not made as well (except mabey Finest Hour, but that didnt get a PC release). I stopped paying attention after that to the franchise.

You should give Call of Duty 4 a try, however. It's really good :)

[MegaMustaine]

You should give Call of Duty 4 a try, however. It's SP sucks but the MP is really good :)

Fixed ;)

[Scream]

Except that that's not true. CoD4's single-player was very good. Just very short.

[MegaMustaine]

I love the MP but absolutely loathe the campaign. Probably the most linear game I have ever played and don't get me started on the respawning guys.

[ZuljinRaynor]

How true. Loved CoD 1 and its add-on "United Offensive"...works of art...history making! But starting with CoD 2, the CoD games were not made as well (except mabey Finest Hour, but that didnt get a PC release). I stopped paying attention after that to the franchise.

Dude. Finest Hour better made than COD 2? No credibility left in you.

[Decker]

Probably the most linear game I have ever played and don't get me started on the respawning guys.

"So what?" on both accounts.

[Damien_Azreal]

Dude. Finest Hour better made than COD 2? No credibility left in you.

Agreed. Finest Hour was along side Big Red One, possibly the worst installation in the CoD series.

CoD2 was very well made, intense and very fun... true it pretty much was CoD remade, with prettier graphics... but that didn't take anything away from it.

IMO CoD4 stands as the best in the series, the extremely gritty, intense and cinematic single player campaign (even though incredibly linear) was one of the most polished experiences released last year. :)

I basically act as if the console only CoD games never happened. They are all well below the quality that Infinity Ward maintains.

[ZuljinRaynor]

IMO CoD4 stands as the best in the series, the extremely gritty, intense and cinematic single player campaign (even though incredibly linear) was one of the most polished experiences released last year. :)


I would agree only if it wasn't for the fact they made it even harder. More enemies, so more bad guys who have basically 99% accuracy. :p

I'll take UO as the best one.

[TBZ]

I'll take UO as the best one.

Same here. CoD UO is still a damn awesome game.
For me it's: CoD UO > CoD 4 > CoD > CoD 2.

[Echo Black]

CoD 2 > CoD (UO?) > CoD4 > The Rest

:D

[Decker]

On the MP side of things COD2 was a disappointment. The cb rule sets and mods like PAM/AWE were as good as ever. But Activision/IW shat on the entire community, the SDK took MONTHS to release after the game was out. :mad:

Overall it was still a very solid sequel. Better than UO for sure.

[TBZ]

Didn't CoD 2 also ship without any kind of anti-cheat system too?

[ZuljinRaynor]

Better than UO for sure.

No way in hell was Call of Duty 2 better than UO.

Didn't CoD 2 also ship without any kind of anti-cheat system too?

Indeed. It was added in a patch.

[Decker]

No way in hell was Call of Duty 2 better than UO.

You already said that, are we just repeating ourselves now without anything further to add? :) Overall, I own every single iteration of COD and the only ones I actually dislike are the ones made by Treyarch. So it's no big deal for me either way.

*edit* Pardon me, I don't have the PSP and DS versions of Call of Duty. I highly doubt they'd have anything to offer after all the others.

[Damien_Azreal]

No way in hell was Call of Duty 2 better than UO.



To each his own Zuljin. :)

[Reaper]

To each his own Zuljin. :)
Hells yeah, Damien. High five? :)

[Damien_Azreal]

:)

Yeah.

[Mr Bear]

Wow, no one's even mentioned COD3- my personal favorite.:)


But as I'm sitting here with my key in hand, dying to play the WaW beta I'm astonished that nobody here has brought up the beta's crashing upon start-up.

Many people were getting an "unhandled exception" before the game would even load and it could be easily fixed in Vista by changing some simple system audio settings.

But for XP users getting this message (like myself), there is still no clear-cut solution!!!

I've tried everything.....dl'd the lastest video drivers, directx versions, uninstalled, reinstalled, rebooted, etc.- still the same damn thing. It would show the WaW logo and then the screen would go black as though the game was starting up.....then after a few seconds it would give me "This program has encountered a fatal error and needs to close down...." and upon clicking "don't send" it shows an "unhandled exception caught" error message. Then back to the desktop......

I'm so fed up at this point, is anyone experiencing anything similar or have any clue as to what I can or should do??

It's ridiculous; I know it's a beta and everything so I'd expect a few occasional glitches in the game itself or maybe even a rare crash or two, but seriously- how can they release it with such a major problem that doesn't even let you play?? Yeesh. :mryuck:


And if you google what I'm talking about, you'll see how common of an issue this is; people are discussing it left and right.


Apparently some folks are also getting a missing .dll file notification, also not allowing the beta to even boot-up.

But I can't find anything to fix my problem- help!!:insomnia:

[Hyperactive Slob]

Seems like an Infinity Ward Developer is pissed at the guys who Promote COD: WaW telling them to stop giving "bullshit quotes".
Link (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=201353)

[ZuljinRaynor]

Awesome. :D

[Wamplet]

But as I'm sitting here with my key in hand, dying to play the WaW beta I'm astonished that nobody here has brought up the beta's crashing upon start-up.



Is the beta open for all?

[Hudson]

PC version?

[LiquiD]

Isn't it out already? Has anyone played it yet?

[Echo Black]

I've played a few missions of the SP campaign...I was surprised, the missions are actually very visceral and "epic". Don't like how recoil is gone for good, though (you can fire an entire BAR clip from any range using ironsights and the bullets hit one on top of the other, you don't have to control your aim even slightly). You can turn on a lot of effects that weren't on the MP beta too, like depth of field and etc. The game looks better than COD4, but there's often an overdose of blur and shader effects when you run/get shot, which can get extremely annoying. Often one shot is enough to send you into "can't-see-shit" mode, which is not only a terrible gameplay decision (prevents you from returning fire ASAP), but extremely unrealistic as well.

Most missions are good enough to be in any IW CoD title, though I've come across a few recycled gameplay parts and pacing problems here and there. I'll be willing to eat some crow and say this is Treyarch's best CoD to date, but that the overall package is still not quite what I've come to expect from a CoD release. I doubt its MP will uproot COD4's, for example.

It would be unfair to bunch this with COD3, it turned out much better.

[Cleric]

^That's good to hear - I'll have to try this out soon.

[Marty]

IGN gave it a 9.2

they said its pretty much the same (but with a different WWII setting) but also better.

*sigh* looks like another game i'll have to look into buying. my wallet is hurting lately from being raped by good video games.

[Cleric]

The game is getting a lot of positive press right now. It might just turn out to be better than some of you thought :p

[Micki!]

The game is getting a lot of positive press right now. It might just turn out to be better than some of you thought :p

There'll always be people who are too proud of their pre-made opinions, that they refuse to try and enjoy the game, and bash it to stand by their word... Sorta like the case will be with DNF when it's out :p

Well anyhow, i couldn't know better myself, i'd have to try it...
But i liked COD4, if this is COD4 all over again, but behind different curtains, i'll get it...