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hummertime
12-22-2007, 04:19 AM
We all know that Levelord made 2 unfinished levels (Sewer and Sweeney) which didn't made into the retail version of the game. (Which is bad, since they are, especially Sewer is much better, than most levels in the 3rd episode.)

However does anybody know more information about his levels in E4? He wasn't credited as he left the company, but some of those have a definate Levelord feeling. Most notably Pigsty and XXX Stacy.

I have read an old interview with Levelord and found another interesting comment on his site:

The interview snippet:

FM: How many times did you swear when you saw that line in the first 3DRealms press release that said something kinda like: "Richard Gray was brought in midway to help main level designer, <Forgot who it was>. Richard Gray only contributed one level to the shareware version." They didn't mention that you did a lot of registered levels, especially the real cool ones did they? :)

LL: ...it bums me incredibly! I know that they're pissed for me just picking up and leaving. I wasn't completely happy there and I had a great opportunity to join these dudes here, ...shit happens. I will always be indebted to Apogee for getting me started, but I will never forgive them for not giving me credit for my work. You may not know, and this is obviously *my* side of the story, but there's alot of levelord in the Plutonium Pack, too. "Pig Sty", my favorite level, BTW, is all mine except that the hanging jury near the exit was hanging monks when I left. It's got someone else's name on it, though, and my heart is truly broken. "Stacy's XXX" is mostly mine, and "Shop-n-Drop" was a good level when I left, ...don't like it much now, though. The real heartbreak is that I wish I was still at Apogee; it could be a great company. We had a great time making Duke and it's a real shame that the team, a true pantheon it was, is now mostly split up.
http://voretimes.planetquake.gamespy.com/inter17.htm

"Two of the places were playing the Plutonium Pack and I was really bummed because some ******* assholio took my name off my levels therein. "Pig Sty", no matter what that rancid bastard says, is 99 and 44/100's percent Levelord... ...only the Hanging Jury sprites at the exit were changed. "Stacy's XXX" is mine and, if the dickweed himself hadn't screwed it up so much, I'd say that "Shop-n-Drop" was mine, too. Ya, let's talk about stealing credit, ****face."
http://www.levelord.com/archives/index1997-03.html

Does anybody know is it true or what really happened?

Steve
12-22-2007, 04:25 AM
Hell... never knew any of that.

NutWrench
12-22-2007, 07:57 AM
That was a long time ago and everyone involved has gotten over it.

MusicallyInspired
12-22-2007, 09:33 AM
Are Sewer and Sweeney available somewhere?

Telee
12-22-2007, 09:56 AM
http://www.duke4ever.eu/index.php?view=d3d_rev_view&review=55
http://www.duke4ever.eu/index.php?view=d3d_rev_view&review=59

Personally I don't understand how Tier Drops got in the game yet Sewer and Sweeney were dropped...

Anyway, I had no idea about this Levelord vs. AHB thing. I believe Levelord on what he says considering the levels he mentioned had a lot of his design style to it.

MusicallyInspired
12-22-2007, 12:17 PM
Many thanks. These will fit nicely with my Duke Disc Collection.

Telee
12-22-2007, 12:25 PM
Oh, and here's some Dukematch levels by Levelord that were cut from the final game, for anyone interested:

http://duke3d.bur.st/maps/Chuckles
http://duke3d.bur.st/maps/Cigam

hummertime
12-22-2007, 12:43 PM
http://www.duke4ever.eu/index.php?view=d3d_rev_view&review=55
http://www.duke4ever.eu/index.php?view=d3d_rev_view&review=59

Personally I don't understand how Tier Drops got in the game yet Sewer and Sweeney were dropped...

Anyway, I had no idea about this Levelord vs. AHB thing. I believe Levelord on what he says considering the levels he mentioned had a lot of his design style to it.

Actually it's not really an AHB vs Levelord. The levels he mentioned credited George Broussard (Shop-n-Bag), Randy Pitchford (Pigsty) and Keith Schuler (XXX Stacy).

This actually means that 7 out of the 11 levels in The Birth belong to the two original authors.

gila
12-22-2007, 03:52 PM
yea, sweeny and sewer are very good. but his two dukematch levels are crap. they look and feel like something out of lameduke.

Telee
12-22-2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah, they're not very detailed. Chuckles looks like it could play pretty well in Dukematch though, with the teleporters and all.