View Full Version : Romero VS Mike Wilson
avatar_58
01-20-2008, 12:06 AM
Wow, these two REALLY don't like each other anymore.
http://blog.shacknews.com/blogarticle.x/50838
Romero:
"Once again, just like with Godgames, Wilson is taking all the credit away from the indie devs and pasting his asinine logo everywhere," wrote Romero. "He pretty much just partied all the time [at GodGames],"and after the whole thing got reined in by Take 2 he went underground for a while, waiting for his next victim/investor so he could go hogwild all over again. And thus was born Gamecock."
Wilson:
"I fought on a daily basis to try to save that company from the poison which you had invited into it (and watched spread like a cancer while you kept your head in the sand), only to find myself ushered out the door," writes Wilson. "I do owe you a thank you for that little shove to get me started on Gathering of Developers, a company that I was an actual partner of, and which Take Two 'reigned in' buy [sic] buying for 30 million dollars."
I wouldn't even begin to imagine what happened at godgames, but recently gamecock pulled that little attention grabbing stunt at an awards ceremony just as Bioshock was receiving one. Although they did apologize (and I think it was spike anyway....)
Karthik
01-20-2008, 01:14 AM
What stunt?
Aegeri
01-20-2008, 02:17 AM
Huh, what?
Llama Gibbz
01-20-2008, 02:27 AM
Read this.
April 1st joke or the actual truth? :D
Mike Wilson .plan file Apr 2 2001 (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=235&time=20010402004330/t)
I always admired romeros work.(fan boy)
But other than hyper space delivery boy (which was good) what has he done the past 8 years?
I even bought gauntlet seven sorrows for fact he worked on it.
It was average at best.
Anyway i think mike and john are one of the same really.
Malgon
01-20-2008, 06:34 AM
I read the comments posted after the article, and a lot of valid points were made. It is unprofessional for anything like this to be let out, as it does no favours to either side. We may all be curious to really know what happened, but still matters should be left private between the two of them. Somewhere in between lies the real truth, and each of them knows what happened. There's really no use in bringing it up years later either imo. Not worth it.
Karthik
01-20-2008, 06:38 AM
I wouldn't even begin to imagine what happened at godgames, but recently gamecock pulled that little attention grabbing stunt at an awards ceremony just as Bioshock was receiving one. Although they did apologize (and I think it was spike anyway....)
WHat was it like?
Echo Black
01-20-2008, 11:10 AM
Pretty childish to attack Romero's personal life - The whole wife thing was unnecessary. If you gotta argue, argue the matter at hand.
avatar_58
01-20-2008, 12:00 PM
What stunt?
http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/11/gamecock-interrupts-ken-levine-at-spike-vgas/
Damien_Azreal
01-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Sucks the youtube video of it has been taken down.
avatar_58
01-20-2008, 12:09 PM
The way I see it this Wilson character is a bit of a flake. The way he attacks Romero on a personal level is just plain unprofessional. Especially since Romero simply posted a minor jab. Gamecock in general seems like a real "LOOK AT ME" sort of company with this guy at the helm.
Damien_Azreal
01-20-2008, 12:11 PM
I watched a video of Gamecock's offices.... meh. The whole place looked like a bunch of college guys going around like "Look at me!!"
Since Gamecock is the publisher of Croteam's tactical shooter I'm not signing off on them completely. But right now they seem very childish.
SyntaxN
01-20-2008, 01:08 PM
Romero needs to shut the **** up...strangely there still seem to be people who care about some random crap he writes.
I believe I said about GameCock a while ago that the primary focus doesn't seem to be games.. Which is bad :p I browsed their site a while ago, I don't remember finding info about any game..
Damien_Azreal
01-20-2008, 04:16 PM
Yeah, after hearing they would be publishing Croteam's new title I checked out the site. But couldn't find any info on upcoming titles... developers they were working with.
It was all stupid shit about the rooster and the companies name. :doh:
Hudson
01-20-2008, 05:38 PM
Didn't the originators of Godgames just use it to sell out?
I heard there was a lot of unsavory shit behind the scenes there..
Damien_Azreal
01-20-2008, 05:39 PM
Pretty much.
Godgames didn't last to long, and they were not favored by developers that much.
Steve
01-20-2008, 05:44 PM
I watched a video of Gamecock's offices.... meh. The whole place looked like a bunch of college guys going around like "Look at me!!"
Funny, that's exactly what I thought when I seen that tour video.
Zombie_Boy
01-20-2008, 07:11 PM
In a somewhat related topic: where's those nude photos of stevie chase?:D
Simon Charles
01-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Dick wars. Avoid them.
Damien_Azreal
01-20-2008, 07:26 PM
In a somewhat related topic: where's those nude photos of stevie chase?:D
Who... cares.
Karthik
01-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Pretty much.
Godgames didn't last to long, and they were not favored by developers that much.
True but some of the games are so bad it's still good like Oni, Heavy Metal FAKK, Blair Witch, etc.
I remember getting a free CD bundled with a Mag and it contains behind the scene photoshoots for some of the hottest babes(we're taking big butt and ripe bossoms). I think it was for the calenders I think. It also contains early trailers of Max Payne, Nocturne, Oni, 4X4 and a few more.
Duke's New Chainsaw
01-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Funny, that's exactly what I thought when I seen that tour video.
You just have to look at their name.
avatar_58
01-21-2008, 09:20 PM
Sounds to me like Romero is the level headed one here:
http://rome.ro/2008/01/wilson-emails-kotaku.html
Damien_Azreal
01-21-2008, 09:40 PM
Romero is a decent guy, and not one to start shit just because.
Wilson on the other hand... wow. Just look up some of Gamecock's advertising and other shit. The guy is just... wow.
Paroxysm
01-21-2008, 10:04 PM
They're both right about the other.
ShadeEX
01-22-2008, 03:48 AM
Mike is definatly an asshat IMO
After seeing their tour video all I can say is:
Gamecock looks so god damn unprofessional.. blech :mryuck:
And Mike is definatly an attention whore
Malgon
01-22-2008, 05:35 AM
Sounds to me like Romero is the level headed one here:
http://rome.ro/2008/01/wilson-emails-kotaku.html
Haha! You have to read some of the comments posted there guys. :D
Haha! You have to read some of the comments posted there guys. :D
Yeah, approval process of bitch ad:
mike: hey, here's the kickass ad the richards group did - i think it's great and we should do it
john: uh, i would never say that to someone "you're my bitch" - that's kinda gay
mike: don't be a *****! people will get it - it's trashtalking.
john: ok, whatever...
rofl :D
Reaper
01-22-2008, 07:33 AM
I don't think Romero has made a good game in his life. This Mike guy I have no idea about. Seems like a nobody to me. At least Romero has a recognizable name. This is bad publicity for Gamecock, but I'll let the games do the talking.
Wamplet
01-22-2008, 09:21 AM
Who... cares.
Word up,
I can't believe she was in that group on PCGamer as up and coming video game people. :o It was pretty obvious they put her in just to sell the magazine.
Mountain Man
01-22-2008, 09:25 AM
Romero is a decent guy, and not one to start shit just because.
I agree. He's always struck me as a reasonably down to earth guy.
avatar_58
01-22-2008, 09:44 AM
Word up,
I can't believe she was in that group on PCGamer as up and coming video game people. :o It was pretty obvious they put her in just to sell the magazine.
Oh you mean like....JADE RAYMOND PRESENTS A JADE RAYMOND PRODUCTION....assasin's creed
Mountain Man
01-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Word up,
I can't believe she was in that group on PCGamer as up and coming video game people. :o
In hindsight, I can't believe they put anybody from that group on the cover as up and coming video game people!
I don't think Romero has made a good game in his life.
Obviously you have never played Doom & Doom II
Damien_Azreal
01-22-2008, 11:47 PM
He also worked on Heretic and Hexen. ;)
someguy2435
01-23-2008, 12:29 AM
Gamecock is such a joke and this was just petty of both of them.
Reaper
01-23-2008, 03:26 AM
He also worked on Heretic and Hexen. ;)
Okay, maybe he hasn't made a good game since? :p
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