Firefox 3 Betas [Archive] - 3D Realms Forums

Usurper

02-10-2008, 10:33 PM

Mr.Fibbles

02-10-2008, 11:05 PM

Don't tell me they took a page out MS' screw your user play book?

ADM

02-10-2008, 11:25 PM

Ouch those changes don't sound pretty good. I'm perfectly happy with FF2 and the only reason I would update to 3 is due to my job as a web dev. Otherwise FF2 does everything perfectly and there's nothing I would add that isn't a plugin anyway.

LeadBullet

02-11-2008, 12:26 AM

Betas are generally where new ideas are tried and works in progress are present etc.

I'd assume through feedback they'll get the idea those things suck and change it back. Honestly though they seem like it would have been common sense to know those were bad ideas before anything happened. I use my home button all the time.

If they want to do that kind of stuff they should just do a simple and advanced mode, if their goal was to make it user friendly for newbies or something.

Droid

02-11-2008, 04:32 AM

I looking forward to FF3, I heard there is quite a speed up, and it will be ACID2 compliant. I have no complains with FF2's interface, I won't mind if they leave it as it is.

yossa

02-11-2008, 06:40 AM

I don't like the url bar. And the oldbar extension doesn't fix it. I navigate by url, not page title, and have been doing so for over ten years. If I wanted to search by page title, I'd open the history sidebar.
Yep, until there's a fix for this, I'm not switching to 3.0

IwantMORE

02-11-2008, 07:41 AM

Have not seen anything I like in FF3 yet. I hope they don't do a IE7 with it and change things for the sake of it.

FF2 with better complicance and lighter memory load would do fine. Although there are a few nice background changes like only asking to save the password if a login is successful which is nice.

Just don't mess with the UI too much, has no one learnt from the Vista mistakes??

avatar_58

02-11-2008, 08:29 AM

I'm using FF3 beta and so far I haven't really been impressed. Every change I notice seems like it's done for change sake. I mean it took me 10 minutes (steamchat users can verify) to find out how to move bookmarks into folders. Turns out they removed the functionality from the menu and from the advanced "organize bookmarks" menu. You have to first load the bookmarks into your sidebar and THEN you can drag them.

I also hate the menu bar. What the fark. They made every menu a few pixels shorter, which is boggling. All it does is make it look weird, which is funny because they made such a big deal about fitting in with Vista and OSX's themes...and this menu thing flies right in the face of that.

I also HATE the way alt-text shows up before anything is loaded. Anyone else get this? If I clear my cache and load up 3DRForums it looks like crap. Theres alt-text everywhere for like 30 seconds before the page loads all the images.

8IronBob

02-11-2008, 08:56 AM

Hmm... Hopefully FF3 will come in 64-bit as well, to counter that of IE7's 64-bit browser. However, I don't know too many plugins that will support those environments yet... Flash Player being one of them that has yet to develop a version for the newer browsers...

Dopefish7590

02-11-2008, 10:27 AM

Theese are a few reasons I rather Apple Safari.

IwantMORE

02-11-2008, 10:55 AM

There is a new version of Safari due out, will be interesting to see if they can make it better than FF. Not holding up much hope, but if they stick with the curent look and direction FF is going in I could find myself using Safari more...

TBZ

02-11-2008, 10:59 AM

Anyone feel like posting pictures showing what it looks like? Pretty please? That way people could see the issues, please :)

Dopefish7590

02-11-2008, 11:02 AM

Edit: Nvm, I misread.

avatar_58

02-11-2008, 11:08 AM

Anyone feel like posting pictures showing what it looks like? Pretty please? That way people could see the issues, please :)

The issues aren't visual, they are only seen during use. FF3 looks exactly the same as 2.

TBZ

02-11-2008, 11:12 AM

I guess I was mostly thinking of this:

"They stole my home button. Again. Pissed me off when Mozilla did it. I don't like it stapled to my bookmarks menu. If I wanted it in my bookmarks menu, I would frickin' drag it there. Alas, it is permattached, and cannot be moved or removed.

Back/forward goofiness. I hope they enjoy the ten pixels they saved in making the back/forward buttons look stupid. Hope there are themes that can fix this."

As that seemed like something you could show in a screenshot, but if it's not, then no, no need for anyone to post pics :)

avatar_58

02-11-2008, 11:15 AM

Well he is using a Nightly, maybe thats why. To me it looked mostly the same, with just terrible changes.

Usurper

02-11-2008, 04:05 PM

8IronBob

02-11-2008, 04:08 PM

Heh... Guess that Microsoft has the edge in design, I take it.
However, yeah, I'd like to see what Apple's coming out with.
How about Opera, are they still same old/same old with their browser?

Mr.Fibbles

02-11-2008, 04:34 PM

The bookmarks thing might take some getting used to. I have nothing against "smart bookmarks" but I wonder how smart it will prove to be. I don't feel like beta testing Firefox right now though, so I might go back to 2.0.12 until they make the final release.
@ the screenshot: At least they left the menu bar there. . .

Dopefish7590

02-11-2008, 05:06 PM

Let us compare Safari to Firefox here...
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/dopefish7590/Screenie.png

Safari is 10x faster on my Mac than any other browser I've tried.

Mr.Fibbles

02-11-2008, 06:11 PM

key there is "on my Mac". . . Safari is optimized for Mac, not for Windows. But that is not the topic.

I confused my computer trying to have them installed in parallel. I am going to wait until it is released and see what they do to it. It is also important for me to have some add-ons that are not supporting 3.0 yet.

Roger

02-11-2008, 08:16 PM

Personally I'm not getting the issues you guys seem to be getting, although it could be because I've never used the default Firefox scheme anyway. I must also say that I :love: rgba and am looking forward to CSS 3 standards adoption. I'm very disappointed in their stance on SVG, however.

Off-topic: Safari runs like ass on Windows and its font rendering, as well as its window scheme, is absolutely hideous. Other than being standards compliant I have no reason for wanting to use it.

Droid

02-12-2008, 04:23 AM

http://thecomitatus.com/misc/stupidgui.png

You can see the back/forward button change. I think it's kinda ugly. The home button is underneath, inseparable from the bookmark toolbar.

The REALLY GROOVY star in the url bar is Firefox's answer to AOL's lame-o hearts.

It's not that bad.

The back/forward buttons look weird though. It's going to be a bit hard to get use to.
The home button I never use. Frequently users will probably have to change their habits. But having it on the bookmark bar does make it bigger.

IMO far cry from the mess that was IE7, WTF was MS think. :doh:

ADM

02-12-2008, 04:29 AM

IMO far cry from the mess that was IE7, WTF was MS think. :doh:

IE7 was/is actually quite good aside from the lack of the File toolbar in the proper place. I'm sure they were 'think' to change and innovate, which they definitely did after the crap that was IE6.

TBZ

02-12-2008, 04:38 AM

Samji

02-12-2008, 05:01 AM

I don't like the asymmetrical Back/Forward buttons and I'd agree someone's made a very bad decision when its come to hiding the Home button.

But like mentioned earlier, betas are often about taking risks and I'm sure if this look is strongly criticized by end-users, they will scrap it. The Back/Forward buttons are a minor criticism, but the Home button has to be back for me to accept this.

The Mac design on the over hand looked good, last time I looked at the plans.

Samji

02-12-2008, 05:05 AM

IE7 was/is actually quite good aside from the lack of the File toolbar in the proper place.

Agreed. Even though I rarely use IE7 other than to test sites. That registry hack was the first thing I did after installation.

Droid

02-12-2008, 09:03 AM

IE7 was/is actually quite good aside from the lack of the File toolbar in the proper place. I'm sure they were 'think' to change and innovate, which they definitely did after the crap that was IE6.

I think the problem was I was used to IE 6 and firefox.

In IE 7 they moved a whole bunch of stuff all over the f*(king place. And IMO for no good reason. :doh:

What can I say maybe I'm a guy that doesn't like change. Office 2007's ribbon interface never caught on with me, I'm now back to using Office 2003. :p

But I definitely don't like relearning stuff unnecessarily.

As some one mentioned above, there are changes that are made to improve things, then there are change which are made for the sake of being made (or for a sake of appearing "innovative" :rolleyes:).

8IronBob

02-12-2008, 09:15 AM

Surprised nobody brought up Opera... Where are they in all this? Are they still doing the same stuff, or were they about to go through the changes as Microsoft, Apple, and Mozilla are doing?

avatar_58

02-12-2008, 09:25 AM

Dopefish7590

02-12-2008, 09:41 AM

Surprised nobody brought up Opera... Where are they in all this? Are they still doing the same stuff, or were they about to go through the changes as Microsoft, Apple, and Mozilla are doing?

Opera sucks. :p

Samji

02-12-2008, 05:15 PM

Opera doesn't suck. Its support for CSS hasn't been beaten as yet.
You're gonna get flamed like a burger on a barbecue for saying that.

Dopefish7590

02-12-2008, 05:21 PM

I'm guessing along the lines of... :flame: right? ;) :D

IwantMORE

02-13-2008, 04:49 AM

Beta V3 out now. Still with silly graphics.

Droid

02-13-2008, 07:53 AM

Beta V3 out now. Still with silly graphics.

I tried out the portable version (http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable/test) so I don't screw up my FF2 install.

So far it feels like ... well ... Firefox. :p

The changes to the buttons were not as annoying as I though it would be.

Usurper

02-15-2008, 05:38 PM

Their recently released official beta is now letting me drag the home button back where it belongs. Yay and stuff.

Yenji

02-15-2008, 09:27 PM

I don't think it looks so bad, although I do like the looks of firefox 2 better. I never use the home button either so I don't care about that change.

I guess someone will release a theme that will bring it back to the way you like it

avatar_58

02-16-2008, 12:32 AM

You know if they chromed-up the back button it wouldn't look half as bad. Right now it's just hideous...

ixfd64

02-16-2008, 03:01 PM

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Seriously, the Firefox 3 buttons are indeed ugly. I hope that this will not be the case for the actual release version.

edit: It appears that earlier beta versions of Firefox do not have this problem. See this (http://flickr.com/photos/redux/2099862422/), for example.

IwantMORE

02-16-2008, 04:46 PM

There is always themes

Rellik66

02-17-2008, 02:10 PM

image (http://thecomitatus.com/misc/stupidgui.png)

You can see the back/forward button change. I think it's kinda ugly. The home button is underneath, inseparable from the bookmark toolbar.
I was able to move both the home button and the bookmarks by customizing the toolbars, this is how I always like my FF layout:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3484/ff3b3xk5.png (http://imageshack.us)

On the theme, I am hoping for a Kempleton (http://arvidaxelsson.se/kempelton/) version of this theme with the keyhole style back/forward buttons.

Usurper

02-17-2008, 05:42 PM

Toolbar customization seems buggy. Half the time, I'm unable to move any existing buttons around. I should try a profile wipe and see if that's the problem.

Ended up installing Phoenity Modern. The back and forward buttons are still linked in a IE7 style, but are less stupid looking overall.

Rellik66

02-17-2008, 06:34 PM

for a good time, type about:config in the FF3b3 address bar ;)

Cipher

02-18-2008, 08:18 PM

I wonder if the humor will be removed by release time.
The man doesn't like humor.

Joe Siegler

03-11-2008, 09:35 AM

Beta 4 is out, and holy crap is it fast. Combined with it's own speed increases (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=548&tag=nl.e539), if you turn on pipelining (http://forevergeek.com/open_source/make_firefox_faster.php) too, it's incredibly faster. I mean it's seriously better. Bring on the final release, guys!

Joe Siegler

03-11-2008, 10:23 AM

Make sure to read this. It's linked from the first page I linked to. Really great post on beta 4.

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/03/firefox-3-beta-4-review/

avatar_58

03-11-2008, 10:34 AM

I thought it was agreed upon that pipelining is bad for servers, since you are requesting too much at once whether or not you even need to. I remember all sorts of people complaining about this, and some very vocal threads on mozilla's forums.

http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/

This guy suggest it's okay, but set it to "8" and not "30". Otherwise you are requesting more than you can ever use, which only serves to mess up the server side. Just a thought.

Also I like how beta 4 fixed the buttons, it looks way sleeker now compared to those strange green ones. I can't vouch for the speed increases yet, haven't used it too much. I hear it's supposed to use less memory, but we'll see because the previous betas didn't.

Joe Siegler

03-11-2008, 10:57 AM

Also I like how beta 4 fixed the buttons, it looks way sleeker now compared to those strange green ones. I can't vouch for the speed increases yet, haven't used it too much. I hear it's supposed to use less memory, but we'll see because the previous betas didn't.

Feh. It's all about me. I'll set it to 100! :)

ADM

03-11-2008, 11:00 AM

Yeah pipelining hammers the servers and can even lead to lag due to ddos protection on certain servers.

I found that the portable apps version was already updated to b4 so I tested it out.. pretty quick, the look isn't too bad. I'd prefer it if the back and forward buttons were the same size but it's cool.

Here's what it looks like on Vista:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8182/ff3b4vistacb3.th.png (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff3b4vistacb3.png)

Seems the back and forward buttons are a dark blue compared to the green on XP (FF3 has different looks depending on OS').

Joe Siegler

03-11-2008, 11:10 AM

I upgraded my main machine to this beta, as I wanted the serious speed increase. I had tested it on my secondary machine here at 3DR which is XP. My primary machine is Vista.

There's something in the notes about how it "looks different" on other OS's. I didn't see much difference beyond the combined forward/backwards buttons - they look a little different. See attached.

It did nuke almost all of my plugins, though. Only three survived without manual intervention, those being Adblock plus, flashblock, and Google Preview.

(Yeah, the blanked directory on my screen dump is something I'm not ready to discuss).

M-Jay

03-11-2008, 11:11 AM

at least one site doesn't show right and is completly black in firefox beta 4.
was the same with beta 3.
firefox 2 and beta 2 show the site correct.

but wow beta 4 is fast!

avatar_58

03-11-2008, 11:14 AM

There's something in the notes about how it "looks different" on other OS's. I didn't see much difference beyond the combined forward/backwards buttons - they look a little different. See attached.

Yeah it's there, check the screen posted earlier in this thread. The XP look of firefox is different than Vistas, and I'm sure OSX looks more like an OSX program. It's subtle, but it just makes it look more like a native program and not some hacked together gui.

Joe Siegler

03-11-2008, 11:38 AM

Found something that doesn't work right.

If you use the "Gmail 2.0" interface, the contacts don't display right. They're there, but the listing is all blank. I had to go back to the "old version" to get them to work right. Gmail itself works right, but the contacts list does not.

mon2908

03-11-2008, 02:52 PM

What's the Version of the Gecko the new Fox uses?

IwantMORE

03-11-2008, 06:15 PM

Beta 4 out now :)

Wellenreiter

03-11-2008, 06:33 PM

Is anyone else beta-testing FF3 nightlies? I'm wondering if I'm the only one getting pissed off at the changes.

I don't like the url bar. And the oldbar extension doesn't fix it. I navigate by url, not page title, and have been doing so for over ten years. If I wanted to search by page title, I'd open the history sidebar.

They stole my home button. Again. Pissed me off when Mozilla did it. I don't like it stapled to my bookmarks menu. If I wanted it in my bookmarks menu, I would frickin' drag it there. Alas, it is permattached, and cannot be moved or removed.

Back/forward goofiness. I hope they enjoy the ten pixels they saved in making the back/forward buttons look stupid. Hope there are themes that can fix this.

At least page zoom is awesome. The fact that it remembers the zoom level per-site is nothing short of brilliant.
Strange that you mentioned almost the same things that annoy me, too. You forgot to mention the download window though:cool:; It feels really unfinished, empty and quite useless. I'd like to have an option there to actually delete the file, heck, I'd like to have the native context menu there. Opera has this.

8653

There are some good things though, which I really like: It's fast. It feels altogether more responsive. The bookmarks drop-down-list loads much faster.
Resized images don't look jagged anymore, which really bugged me. Also, it is now possible to change between tabs that are still loading in the background. This, for me, is the biggest improvement, as I tend to do that a lot. Nice!

Daveman

03-11-2008, 07:29 PM

I don't like the url bar. And the oldbar extension doesn't fix it. I navigate by url, not page title, and have been doing so for over ten years. If I wanted to search by page title, I'd open the history sidebar.
Yeah, I had been trying the beta until I got pissed off at this part and couldn't take it anymore. It was really unbearably annoying.

evanazzo

03-11-2008, 10:08 PM

OMG THIS THING IS JESUS. it used to take me like 2 minutes to load page now its taking me like 30 seconds YAY

Dopefish7590

03-12-2008, 02:22 AM

What? Are you on dialup or something?

Wellenreiter

03-12-2008, 05:27 AM

I upgraded my main machine to this beta, as I wanted the serious speed increase. I had tested it on my secondary machine here at 3DR which is XP. My primary machine is Vista.
[...]
It did nuke almost all of my plugins, though. Only three survived without manual intervention, those being Adblock plus, flashblock, and Google Preview.

You may already know that, but in order to be able to use your old extensions, you have to

1) Override the MaxVersion setting by installing 'Nightly Tester Tools (http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly)' ('make compatible')
2) Disable the 'secure update setting (http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Extensions..2A)': Open about:config, right click->New, Boolean-> "extensions.checkUpdateSecurity"->OK->Set to 'false'.

Most of the old extensions will work then.

IwantMORE

03-12-2008, 06:56 AM

Supposed to be 5 times faster than IE7. That IE8 beta is looking like it still needs much work to catch up with FF3...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/images/sunspider_test_465.png

Joe Siegler

03-12-2008, 09:53 AM

Beta 4 out now :)

Supposed to be 5 times faster than IE7. That IE8 beta is looking like it still needs much work to catch up with FF3..

Did either of you read the whole thread before you posted? :)

You may already know that, but in order to be able to use your old extensions, you have to

1) Override the MaxVersion setting by installing 'Nightly Tester Tools (http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly)' ('make compatible')
2) Disable the 'secure update setting (http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Extensions..2A)': Open about:config, right click->New, Boolean-> "extensions.checkUpdateSecurity"->OK->Set to 'false'.

Most of the old extensions will work then.

Yeah, I do know that, but I was letting it go for a few days to see if there's any plugins I can really do without in my regular browsing - try and pull some out to save memory, that kind of thing.

IwantMORE

03-12-2008, 12:36 PM

Did either of you read the whole thread before you posted?

Not before, after! :o

p.s we are the same person ;)

Joe Siegler

03-12-2008, 02:13 PM

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Samji

03-12-2008, 04:59 PM

Beta V3 out now. Still with silly graphics.

It's alright with GNOME. Here it is using Tango icons (default theme), so its integrating nicely with my desktop.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3729/ffbeta3tangomy1.th.png (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ffbeta3tangomy1.png)

Incidentally, I noticed that the de.licio.us extension doesn't work with beta3, even forced with Nightly tools.
I wonder what's changed in 3, to stop that working?

evanazzo

03-16-2008, 11:58 AM

Anyone know why the beta wont let me see a .PDF file.
I need to see this page (http://www.opconline.ca/calendar/Calendar.pdf) for a project I'm doing. I dont know if i cant see it because i have a missing plug-in or if its just the Firefox 3 beta I'm using

Usurper

03-16-2008, 12:16 PM

Works fine for me in beta 4 with Acrobat.

evanazzo

03-16-2008, 12:22 PM

Hmm I have Acrobat and its still not working. Oh well I'll use IE for that page.

NetNessie

03-24-2008, 08:18 AM

I installed Beta 4 earlier, and I've yet to encounter any real issues. The new interface is rather nice, though I feel the graphics are a little incomplete. I'm looking forward for the final release.

Little Conqueror

03-27-2008, 03:16 AM

Christ. I still get random hangs with this beta. I just had to start downloading a 3 GB game from Direct2Drive again after getting it to 90% because I made the mistake of going to a news page that uses JavaScript. :doh:

I like the speed increases, but would they fix that damn hanging already?!?

NetNessie

03-31-2008, 10:47 PM

Mr.Perfect

03-31-2008, 11:58 PM

Well i use it a while but did'nt find anything intresting in it And i again become a Opera user ...!

this beta version creating problem with my Flash player And acrobat reader ...!

Wellenreiter

04-01-2008, 08:14 AM

That hanging sucks, but I haven't encountered it. I've noticed that Flash movies have started acting weirdly as a result -- not registering mouse clicks. I suppose I still have to update the flash player.

Are you using Adblock Plus? There is a bug in the nightlies, maybe in the beta too, which is triggered by Adblock Plus(and maybe Noscript or some other extensions, not sure there). A development build of ABP cured any flash problems for me: http://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/

Also, concerning crashes: Make sure you make a new profile.

Reaper

04-02-2008, 05:59 AM

How do you import settings from FF2 without installing over it?

Llama Gibbz

04-02-2008, 10:39 AM

Imo the back and forward buttons look out of place,like it was just tacked on

Perhaps if they rounded the search and address bar it would come together better.

ADM

04-02-2008, 11:42 AM

Perhaps if they rounded the search and address bar it would come together better.

They are going to be doing that.. in the next beta of FF3 or something.

TBZ

04-02-2008, 04:32 PM

Firefox 3 beta 5 now available for download (http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/04/02/firefox-3-beta-5-now-available-for-download/)

Joe Siegler

04-02-2008, 04:34 PM

Firefox 3 beta 5 now available for download (http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/04/02/firefox-3-beta-5-now-available-for-download/)

Adblock Plus doesn't work with that out of the gate. Bummer.

avatar_58

04-02-2008, 04:42 PM

Theres some fancy visual changes I noticed, with the tabs, input forms etc. Also - FINALLY they fixed the bookmark issues. I can drag my bookmarks into folders without using the organizer or loading it into the sidebar. Such a silly feature that should never have been changed.

I guess we're getting closer to the final release.

ADM

04-21-2008, 04:06 AM

Since I've rolled back to XP (from Vista) I decided I might as well try my hand at using FF3 B5 as my default browser. Haven't had any problems so far and I'm getting used to the changes now.

Not bad :)

Thewho

04-21-2008, 09:18 AM

I think this is the last beta isn't it? Shouldn't be long before the final release then.

Rellik66

04-21-2008, 12:00 PM

I think the expected release is in June.

Usurper

04-22-2008, 08:07 PM

Now that the url bar "learns" from my choices, I'm starting to like the new behavior.

Ravey

04-22-2008, 08:14 PM

I switched to Opera because of the annoying bug that would delete your bookmarks and you'd have to reload a backup. Only thing i'm missing is the smooth animated .GIFs but other than that I think Opera is much better and more convenient, even without any extensions.

ADM

04-23-2008, 09:50 AM

Now that the url bar "learns" from my choices, I'm starting to like the new behavior.
I like the fact it searches through site names, descriptions and url. I can easily access sites now then before when you had to know the url.

I just don't like the design of it.. it's a bit too cluttered.

shiranui

04-27-2008, 11:24 PM

With the full page zoom feature working nicely, I think I might finally wean my wife off Opera once the final is released.

TBZ

05-17-2008, 10:19 PM

Firefox 3 RC1 released (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0rc1/releasenotes/)

Downloads available here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html)

NetNessie

05-18-2008, 01:17 AM

Ever since Beta 4 (I'm using RC1 now), FireFox has been running really really sluggishly for me. It will constantly freeze when loading pages or crossing between applications. As of yet there aren't any crashing issues, but its become really painful.

ADM

05-18-2008, 01:50 PM

I've thought it's even faster now, especially in startups (RC1 mainly for me has improved startup times dramatically.. like it's pretty much instantaneous for me to load up). I haven't had any freezing or slowdowns occur at all.

NetNessie

05-19-2008, 06:03 AM

I haven't had any freezing or slowdowns occur at all.

I figure it's just my setup. Everything has been a little weird. Hopefully I'll find some peace with RC2 or the final version. If not I'll be stuck with FF2 until I find a suitable upgrade.

Roger

05-21-2008, 09:34 PM

I wish they'd do more stuff with CSS Level 3 (http://www.css3.info/preview/).

Theonewayman

05-31-2008, 07:12 PM

I downgraded to Firefox 2 because any downloads i did with it came corrupted, in fox2 they work well. What is funny is that when i add Fox3 RC1 it affected IE7 also so downloads came corrupted in both, :? it seams i'm the only one with this problem as i don't see others reporting it what shows is some incompatibility that Fox3 have with my PC .

Wellenreiter

06-01-2008, 04:24 AM

What is funny is that when i add Fox3 RC1 it affected IE7 also so downloads came corrupted in both, :? it seams i'm the only one with this problem as i don't see others reporting it what shows is some incompatibility that Fox3 have with my PC .
I can't see any relation here. Firefox does neither change any windows networking settings nor any IE settings.
I'd rather think that your connection was bad, or the files you tried to download were corrupt already.

Theonewayman

06-09-2008, 03:52 PM

No they don't, but no matter now, i found out the problem, i uninstalled Fox3 but IE7 was still corrupting my downloads , what i found strange as i thought that Fox3 was the guilty, i them remembered that prior to fox3 i add installed the nvidia network tools that come with my nforce bourd, i deleted them and IE7 worked well so the mystery was solved.

Now i will try Fox3 again. :)

Litude

06-12-2008, 02:10 PM

Seems like I'm not the only one who has been having problem with the nvidia firewall. Likewise, all my downloads became corrupted when I installed it. I wonder whether they bothered to test it at all before release.
Well back to topic, firefox rc3 (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0rc3/releasenotes/) has been released.

The Stinger

06-13-2008, 06:30 AM

Nvidia firewall is the most useless piece of software Nvidia ever made.
Any news on the final?

Crosma

06-13-2008, 07:10 AM

Final is meant to be out on Tuesday. I imagine the current release candidate is the same as the final, at this point.

I remember arguing the merits of Mozilla as far back as M18. Everyone just thought I was an arse. These days I haven't really been following the development of Firefox 3.0, but I'm sure it'll be all right as long as Firebug works.

IwantMORE

06-13-2008, 07:15 AM

http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/11/coming-tuesday-june-17th-firefox-3/

17th June (or WID)!

IwantMORE

06-13-2008, 09:33 AM

anyone found a way to turn off the page titles in the address bar. I just want to get it to show the urls...!!!!

Otherwise I like everything else...

Wellenreiter

06-13-2008, 02:23 PM

Well, there is oldbar (https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/6227). Haven't tried it though, after some time I got used to the new behaviour, and I like it much better now.

Sometimes I'm a bit annoyed by the RSS feed bookmarks in the bookmark bar. How can I turn these off?

Rellik66

06-13-2008, 03:01 PM

you mean that green title that pops up for verified sites?

If so then install Stylish (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108)

and create a new style with the following CSS text@namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);

#identity-icon-label { display:none !important;} and presto, no text, but you still have the benefit of a green background behind the icon

IwantMORE

06-14-2008, 04:37 AM

It don't seem to work, maybe it's a windows only fix or something has changed in the latest RC. I'm sure I'll find a way to change it and I only find it slightly annoying.

The main problem I have is this is open source. The software revolution's most popular open source software. And it's not giving people the options they want.

For me the open source community interests me because there is the option to get the source code and change what you don't like. I could probably download the source code and find the code that creates the url bar and change how it works.

But the bigger problem is it should be obvious that a large minority of users will prefer the old look and feel of the address bar and the people that call the shots in the mozilla community have decided that everyone must use the new url bar and that's that. So the 'openness' of the software is still not filtering through to the top level.

This is a user interface (UI) issue. How you want the app to look rather than how it works. For me all software should have good advanced UI customisation. The main problems most people have with software is normally the 'well I don't like this function, and I use it all the time. It drives me mad' feeling. Firefox already has the great about: config feature where you can get in and change some of the features. How hard would it have been to put in a change url bar to look and/or work like old bar.

I hope this makes it into the final release, I can understand forcing people to use it in the betas, it's the newest feature and you want everyone testing it. But the final release should have an easy way of switching between the old look and feel and the new one..

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