Crysis Warhead

[JobivanHiob]

http://www.crysis-thegame.com/
an expension for Crysis or the PS3 version of Crysis....interesting. :)

[Litude]

Guess this is the reason the 1.3 patch was canceled. I'm betting it's an expansion pack for the original game. Could turn out interesting...

[avatar_58]

Guess this is the reason the 1.3 patch was canceled. I'm betting it's an expansion pack for the original game. Could turn out interesting...

Forcing people to pay for a patch is not a wise business decision.

[ADM]

Forcing people to pay for a patch is not a wise business decision.
It is when you can then just blame poor sales on piracy ;)

[Danule]

expansion? man the first game was short enough lets hope this expansion isnt like 2 hours long.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

It was longer than most other recent fps games.

Anyway, it's probably a expansion.

[Damien_Azreal]

expansion? man the first game was short enough lets hope this expansion isnt like 2 hours long.

Length was not a problem with Crysis. It featured 11 levels, each of them an hour or longer.

The games problem was story telling and the ending.

[Talos]

http://www.crysis-thegame.com/
an expension for Crysis or the PS3 version of Crysis....interesting. :)

... and/or 360 version I might add ;)

[Damien_Azreal]

A long time ago, shortly after Crysis was released... a few members of Crytek rumored that the sequels would not be numbered. But would have surnames similar to this.

It could just be the sequel and not an expansion pack. You can tell from early videos there were a lot of levels that did not make it into Crysis and could easily serve for the sequel.

[alexgk]

Hard to tell what it it right now :confused:

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, the image of the guy on the website looks like Psycho from the game.

[boglito]

I find it hard to believe that they are announcing an expantion unless it will be free to owners of crysis. I predict free MP a'la FEAR Combat.

That said, I would definately prefer if it was an expantion. I am ready for more.

[Damien_Azreal]

After their complaints about piracy effecting Crysis' sales, and overall low sales of the game... I seriously doubt that Crytek would simply give away a free expansion of MP portion of the game.

[boglito]

After their complaints about piracy effecting Crysis' sales, and overall low sales of the game... I seriously doubt that Crytek would simply give away a free expansion of MP portion of the game.

You may have a point, but they also said that the new update would somehow make up for axing patch 1.3, and a console-edition of crysis certainly will not do that. MP needs players to be successful, and making it free would bring in those players. They could even throw iga in there to make a buck. I'm betting on free MP, but mostly because I really want it to be a sequel/expantion... ;)

[timothy2]

I find it hard to believe that they are announcing an expantion unless it will be free to owners of crysis.


:doh:

[boglito]

:doh:

How about fleshing out that little comment there, pal?

[timothy2]

My memory might be bad but I can't seem to recall any expansion pack that was for free, at all. If there is any, it's seriously overshadowed by the huge amount of commercial ones.

[Hudson]

... and/or 360 version I might add ;)

I thought Crytek said the only console capable of running Crysis was the PS3..

[MegaMustaine]

I thought Crytek said the only console capable of running Crysis was the PS3..

They have demoed the crytek engine on the 360.

[Damien_Azreal]

I thought Crytek said the only console capable of running Crysis was the PS3..

I think that was EA that made that claim, Crytek had demoed the CryEngine 2 on both the 360 and PS3. And whatever this new game is... chances are it will be multiplatform given Crytek's new stance on never doing another PC exclusive.

[JobivanHiob]

http://worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=52723
:p
But cool to have so fast a second crysis game! :cool:

[SyntaxN]

Funny, now we´re getting Crysis 1.5, developed by the new super cheap studio and they will stop supporting their game if it doesn´t sell well. Keep on blaming the consumers but shove some more stuff up their ass to get the maximum out of it...

[ADM]

I'm surprised it's exclusive to PC's considering they had a hissy fit about piracy. In any case not interested in this game, at all.. aside of course for graphics.

Seems to me that it's just an expansion pack made into a full priced game to cover costs lost from the first one.

[peoplessi]

I'm surprised it's exclusive to PC's considering they had a hissy fit about piracy. In any case not interested in this game, at all.. aside of course for graphics.

Seems to me that it's just an expansion pack made into a full priced game to cover costs lost from the first one.

My thought exactly, I can't disagree on anything :cool:

[JobivanHiob]

ok the PC Gamer exclusive is about Crysis Warhead!
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/crysis/news/pc-gamer-announces-crysis-warhead/a-200806041226105024/g-2006032914441159019

[avatar_58]

ok the PC Gamer exclusive is about Crysis Warhead!
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/crysis/news/pc-gamer-announces-crysis-warhead/a-200806041226105024/g-2006032914441159019

As interesting as it is, I'm laughing at how this announcement was hyped. Especially since oh I don't know - the internet once again heard about it before their exclusive hit the shelf?

One of these days people will stop paying attention to their hype.

[FireFly]

This is what Crytek said recently about porting to the 360 and PS3:

"Yes, we definitely tailor the engine specifically to each platform. More than just the difference in CPU and video hardware capabilities of PCs and consoles is at play here. So are the much smaller memory budgets we must work with, the lack of a hard disk on some models, and the acceptance requirements of the hardware vendors themselves. All have an effect on how we approach each version of the engine.

The surprising thing has been how well the consoles can perform visually, once this tailoring is in place. We expect the final outcome will result in games that look like they're running at high settings, or nearly high settings, on a PC. Actually, we found it as much or more challenging to address the memory limitations of the consoles when converting our current AI system, as we did while converting our rendering engine or physics system, which was not something you might have expected at the start."


"Well there is no doubt that porting our engine to the PlayStation 3 is the more challenging of our two ongoing conversion projects, but that works to our advantage in the end. We feel certain we have the ability to get the most that is possible out of that platform, and therefore PS3 games which run on our engine in the future will definitely stand significantly apart from other games that don't."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/865/865020p1.html

Of course, they're just talking about the engine, not the game itself, so perhaps porting Crysis over as-it-is would have been too much work. Just because they're committed to multi-platform development doesn't mean it makes sense in this case - for what is ostensibly an expansion pack, of a game that they have said (in the past) that it would be unfeasible to port.

[peoplessi]

First they said that CryEngine 2 wouldn't work in that enviroment, how clever of them :)

[boglito]

ok the PC Gamer exclusive is about Crysis Warhead!
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/crysis/news/pc-gamer-announces-crysis-warhead/a-200806041226105024/g-2006032914441159019

Hrm, a major anouncement from a legendary PC developer, huh? The hype is on... :D

[Nessus]

We feel certain we have the ability to get the most that is possible out of that platform, and therefore PS3 games which run on our engine in the future will definitely stand significantly apart from other games that don't."



Sounds like he's saying they have gotten better visual results out of the PS3 than anyone else has so far.

[Daveman]

It's about damn time. We're a good way into the second generation of releases for this generation and still developers aren't exploiting the PS3's potential. It definitely requires a different approach and a readjustment, but I want to really see what it can do.

[Babe]

In Crysis Warhead, players will don the Nanosuit of Sergeant Sykes, also known as ‘Psycho’, one of the most memorable characters from Crysis. More brash and aggressive than his Delta Force squadmate Nomad, players will experience Psycho’s parallel story during the events of the original game, finding that life on the other side of the island is even more intense and explosive than they ever could have imagined. Luckily, Psycho’s Nanosuit is just as capable and he’s equipped with an even bigger arsenal of fully customizable weapons and new vehicles, giving players access to the tools they need to dominate any situation. Aside from this new, exciting single player campaign, Crysis Warhead will also feature new multiplayer content. Stay tuned for more details this summer.

Source: http://www.crytek.com/news/news/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=116&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=1&cHash=7733199cd1

[Rider]

Now that DOES sound interesting. I like how they're using a different character to tell the story from a different perspective... and since there where some key moments where some or all of the characters came together I'm interested to see how they're going to pull that off... since you played one of those characters before :D

[Needle]

Parallel story, eh? So we most likely still won't know how the story continues. Grrrrr.

[Damien_Azreal]

I like the parallel story idea... but does that mean whenever we meet up with Psycho in Crysis... that as Psycho, we'll meet up with Nomad and have to sit through the same cutscenes?

And suffer through the same shitty ending?

[MAT]

I'll read some reviews before getting hyped about this as I surely don't want more of the same. Warhead will have to improve lots of things to become a must-buy for me.

Less sentinels and more creative enemies this time, please.

[Malgon]

I didn't expect this at all. So Crytek has opened a new studio to work on this one I take it?

[Reaper]

I didn't expect this at all. So Crytek has opened a new studio to work on this one I take it?
Yup. Crytek Budapest.

[Stense]

I guess that leaves the main Crytek studio to continue development on their top secret up comming incredible looking tropical island epic called Crykey.

[Damien_Azreal]

Actually.... Crytek's next game is the sequel to Crysis. :) Crysis is the first in a trilogy, and this new expansion is an added bonus it seems.

[Sang]

Yup. Crytek Budapest.

How nice of them to put Eastern Europe on the video gaming map. :o

[timothy2]

Well I think it's a PC Exclusive because you can only find Crysis on PC. It would be extremely pointless making an expansion on consoles that don't even have the original game to begin with ;).

This is just delaying the inevitable, Crytek will indeed be NON-Pc-exclusive.

[Rider]

added bonus

Please stop robbing words of their meaning.

Thanks :)

[Damien_Azreal]

Please stop robbing words of their meaning.

Thanks :)

Okay.... whatever.

[Malgon]

It's probably too early to ask, but will the game be priced as an expansion or a full title? :o

[peoplessi]

Honestly, after Crysis, I don't really care if Crytek isn't PC exclusive anymore. Mediocre games sell in large quantities on consoles easier - e.g. Haze.

[avatar_58]

Honestly, after Crysis, I don't really care if Crytek isn't PC exclusive anymore. Mediocre games sell in large quantities on consoles easier - e.g. Haze.

If haze sells well that is very dissapointing.

[Daveman]

Honestly, after Crysis, I don't really care if Crytek isn't PC exclusive anymore. Mediocre games sell in large quantities on consoles easier - e.g. Haze.
Ech? I'm pretty sure Haze has been pretty disastrous from a retail point of view. Gamestop stores have already started marking the price down to 40 bucks to get the game to sell. Console gamers are more knowledgeable about game reviews than they have been in the past.

[Damien_Azreal]

Screenshots are up at inCrysis.... showing off one of the new vehicles and both new weapons.

http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=667

Also, a few quotes taken from official Crysis forums...

introducing 2 new weapons the grenade launcher and dual SMGs. 2 new vehicles for MP and SP use. Some kind of hovercraft(not the original one it doesnt have a name yet) and the ASR:Armored scout recon(a heavily armed vehicle the size of a jeep mounted with an advanced machine gun. Also to juice the story up Crytek hired the head writer of the games Bioshock and Gears of War making the story even more intense. Also MP has a new mode to it(name still yet to be announced) it is less complex than Powerstruggle but involves the classic US vs NK teamwork we all know and love. Also some tweaks to the engine/game. The engine has more dynamic lighting and the old hovercraft has a mounted machine gun

Seems the story will be getting much needed attention. It was my only real complaint with Crysis, a shallow almost pointless story. If they can really create an intense, deep story... this will definitely be worth it.

a PC running an Intel E2180 (2GHz), 2GB, an 8600GT 512, and Vista could run the game "silky-smooth with all the bells and whistles."

The preview goes on to talk about how the engine is newly optimized even with the new lighting techniques and particle system. The game apparently starts when Psycho leaves Nomad mid-Crysis and takes place allt he way through until you rendezvous back on the aircraft carrier. It's not a sequel, it's not an expansion, pack, it's a stand-alone chapter with about 8-12 hours of gameplay. It will also be much more action-oriented with more of the airstrikes, tanks, and explosions like CoD4. Will be out this Holiday.

Performance seems to be much improved as well. While this is a great thing, it's also a bit annoying as "huge performance improvements" were supposed to come to Crysis in future patches.
Seems they saved them back for the next title instead.

EDIT: IGN has a small article up about the engine optimizations...

http://pc.ign.com/articles/882/882940p1.html

[Karthik]

There's no point in releasing performance patches for the first Crysis. By the time it comes out, hardware prices would have dropped to the point where USD500 PCs can play it at full settings.

[Malgon]

I'm keen to play this game, but those performance claims I find a little hard to believe. I won't be complaining if it does come true of course.

[Damien_Azreal]

I'm getting a little more interested in this one.

My main grip against Crysis... the story. It completely fell apart a few missions in, specially after the alien ship. So, if Crytek are truly able to make the story more compelling and intense I will gladly pick it up.

Also, the word on performance increases... I can believe it. So it will be nice when Warhead is released. I can already run Crysis at high, so running Warhead should not be a problem at all.

[Kristian Joensen]

What is your spec like Damien_Azreal ?

[Damien_Azreal]

WinXP
AMD x2 4600+
2GB Ram
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB

[Kristian Joensen]

Crysis running on high on that system isn't exactly what I would call high system requirements. It seems to me that the main problem with Crysis is inconsistent performance across similar systems. What resolution are you playing it at ?

[Damien_Azreal]

1280*1024

All settings at high, no AA (since high shaders includes edgeAA).

Crysis seems to really like the G92 models of the 8 series. On a GTX or regular GTS the game may run okay, or may chug like mad. But on most GP2 chips (GT and new GTS) it seems to run very well.
And the core clock speed on my card set to 700mhz with a memory speed of 2000mhz... the card picks up the slack.

[peoplessi]

Well, someone plays the game with 20fps and is happy, another one plays with 50fps and is happy. People have different opinions on what runs good and smooth.

[Damien_Azreal]

With the console command my frame rates average around 35 to 40. I consider anything over 26 playable, 30 smooth and 60 ideal.

[timothy2]

I play it on 45 fps all settings at very high.

[Kristian Joensen]

What resolution ? What spec ?

[peoplessi]

The snow level will bring any PC to it's knees and begging forgiviness.

[Jokke_r]

Man i ran the snow level with everything on very high on 1600x1200 with 4xAF 0xAA and man, it lagged like hell and froze every now and then, but i figured it was lack of ram so i turned texture and model detail to high and kept the rest on very high and it ran smoothly (albeit with FPS's in the 20's but not dipping). Looked absolutely insanely good. I mean it totally looked like a pre rendered cinematic. I usually play the game with everything on High in 1280x960 and get a good smooth FPS in the 40's and up.

Core 2 Duo E8400 oc@3,6GHz
2GB DDR2-1066
nVIDIA GeForce 9800GX2 1GB @ core: 720MHz, Shader: 1800MHz, Memory: 2100MHz

[timothy2]

What resolution ? What spec ?
1280x1024

Win Xp with very high settings hack.

Quad core extreme 9650

4 gb ram

8800 gt 512.

[Lethe]

1280x1024

Win Xp with very high settings hack.

Quad core extreme 9650

4 gb ram

8800 gt 512.

So 45 on average? I don't think so...

[timothy2]

Why not? Crysis works differently for everyone.

[Lethe]

Why not? Crysis works differently for everyone.

It's not that random ;)

There is a benchmark in game folder. Do it and post pcs please :)

[peoplessi]

Well, the "very high" settings explains some of it.

[Lethe]

Well, the "very high" settings explains some of it.

It's still demanding as hell.

[Phayzon]

I get about 20FPS average in DX10 mode and 23FPS in DX9

Vista Ultimate x64
8800GTS 512
C2D E8400
4GB DDR2-800

1280x1024
These (http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=16487) settings
HDR off (Although turning it on only drops about 0.5FPS)

I dont believe timothy2 one bit

[Damien_Azreal]

The snow level will bring any PC to it's knees and begging forgiviness.

Snow level ran fine for me. The only level that chugged any was the final battle on the ship deck.
But that's not really that surprising.

[Malgon]

Crysis seems to really like the G92 models of the 8 series. On a GTX or regular GTS the game may run okay, or may chug like mad. But on most GP2 chips (GT and new GTS) it seems to run very well.
And the core clock speed on my card set to 700mhz with a memory speed of 2000mhz... the card picks up the slack.


I have heard of people getting good framerates with G92 series over the G80 series. I have a 320MB GTS, and according to the CPU test I get an average of 44fps at 1600 x 1200 (Medium), but I've been playing at 1024 x 768 with an average of 58fps instead, since it feels better to play. With the Very High setting under XP, I get an average of just 15fps at 1600 x 1200, which is a huge difference. I would like some performance increases, so I could maybe play at High settings instead.

[Malgon]

New teaser trailer (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53349). :)

[0marTheZealot]

I get about 20FPS average in DX10 mode and 23FPS in DX9

Vista Ultimate x64
8800GTS 512
C2D E8400
4GB DDR2-800

1280x1024
These (http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=16487) settings
HDR off (Although turning it on only drops about 0.5FPS)

I dont believe timothy2 one bit

I have the exact same computer as you, minus the C2D 8400, I have a E6600, and I got acceptable frame-rates (45-60) when I bumped the resolution down to 1024x768.

[peoplessi]

Do you run the benchmark tool or toss out figures from your hats? It's no use if one checks the fps in a corridor and another reports the real definitive fps from the benchmark.

[Jokke_r]

Ran the Benchmark in DX10, Very High mode, everything on very high, no AA or AF forced. At 1600x1200.
Got an Average 34FPS

Asus Maximus Formula x38
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6GHz OC'd
4GB DDR2-800
Nvidia GeForce 9800GX2 OC'd

[Damien_Azreal]

Do you run the benchmark tool or toss out figures from your hats? It's no use if one checks the fps in a corridor and another reports the real definitive fps from the benchmark.

I don't use the benchmark tool... I just display my frame rates as I'm playing. Which is why I said my frames are usually between 35 to 40.

[avatar_58]

Theres screens up on shacknews. However I really think they should stop showing anything unless they have something different from Crysis. I look at these shots and wonder what the difference is. I understand it takes place on the same island, but if theres nothing new to show then don't show anything at all....

[Aegeri]

Snow level ran fine for me. The only level that chugged any was the final battle on the ship deck.
But that's not really that surprising.

My computer ran like crap on the snow levels but the entire rest of the game ran flawlessly :p

[razgriz]

Me?

I just didn't download the patches for the game.

It ran well.

[Damien_Azreal]

Actually runs a little better for me after the patches.

[Detharin]

Ok wait. Etiquette question here. Since apparently everyone pirated Crysis except me what do i do with the expansion pack? Is everyone going to buy it, and I'm supposed to pirate it? Is no one going to buy it and I'm stuck buying it again? Is their some form of lottery, perhaps paper rock scissors, or a coin toss to determine who is going to be the token guy to buy it this time around?

Because all i keep hearing is everyone pirated the game, and really if everyones doing it I do not want to be "that guy".

[Jiminator]

if you liked the game and want the developer to make more, then by all means support them and buy the game, the expansion, the gold version, action figures, and so forth. it doesn't matter what "everyone else" is doing.

Developers of good games should be rewarded by your support. Take it away and the developers start taking resources away from PC games and moving towards consoles.

I find questionable the piracy estimates, it sounds like the game did not sell well, for a lot of justified reasons, so they came up with the excuses and made up some numbers to justify them.

[Detharin]

The post was a bit of a joke, but you do raise an interesting point. We should reward companies that makes good games, and punish companies that make poor games. However what does a person do in the face of more of a mediocre game?

Crysis felt like it ended to soon, and i have quite a few complaints about the game play that ive addressed previously. Sadly I do not feel a patch or expansion will address them.

On the subject of Crysis sales, i feel it sold about as well as it deserved.It was a wonderful way to test my computer, and bring it to its knees. However i found it lacking in the actual game department.

[Malgon]

So how many of you guys are going to buy this straight off? Or will you read reviews first and then decide?

[Jiminator]

well, I don't believe in punishing companies, but neither do I believe in supporting them when they are doing a money grab, which is what this appears to be. It is like ok, the game didn't do well on release, so we will stop updating it and spend our time making a bunch more generic levels so we can rerelease the game. Now to be certain, crysis has a lot of great features. But overall the game needs a lot of tweaking, balancing and adjusting to really make it right. The suit, that has a lot of positives and also negatives. The level builder, well, it seems to take all of the variety and creativity out of the levels. They spent a ton of time making a great game engine, but not enough time in making a great game.

[Damien_Azreal]

I will buy this, but I'm not sure if I'll get it right at release or wait.

With the news from Crytek... from improving the engine and adding in huge optimizations to the fact they've hired and brought in people to improve the story telling and add in scripted events (similar to CoD4)... it sounds like they've fixed the problems I had with Crysis.

[timothy2]

I'll buy it as soon as it comes out, it's a great game.

[Aegeri]

I'll buy it when it comes out, the game was great and runs well on my new computer. I actually wanted more of the game at the end, especially of the opening levels with the KPA.

[Malgon]

What're you running it on now?

[Aegeri]

What're you running it on now?

Toshiba X200 laptop
Dual Geforce 8600 GT SLI video card
Dual Core Intel 2.6ghz motherboard
4gig DDR2 RAM
Two 200gig 5400 RPM SATA hard drives
HD-DVD rom

etc

Overall runs very well, especially with Service Pack 1 installed and the SLI enabled. Only the snow levels severely hamper FPS.

[Malgon]

Yeah, a lot of people have said the snow levels are sluggigh compared to the rest of the game. I can't remember any real performance dropoff, but I was only playing on Medium settings. Perhaps it's more noticeable on higher settings, idk.

[Aegeri]

Yeah, a lot of people have said the snow levels are sluggigh compared to the rest of the game. I can't remember any real performance dropoff, but I was only playing on Medium settings. Perhaps it's more noticeable on higher settings, idk.

Oh it is, especially in DX10. It literally bends the computer over :p

[Water12356]

Im definately waiting for reviews.

[Damien_Azreal]

I've been around to a handful of various gaming websites. Sitting different interviews with CEO Crytek.... and in each one he is bitching about PC piracy.

And honestly, I have to say..... grow up and stop bitching. Either stand up, make an effort and try to find a better way to combat PC piracy... or shut up and live with it. I'm starting to get a little annoyed by Crytek's attitude since Crysis didn't sell like they had hoped.

They make great games... but damn.

[Jiminator]

you know, I saw some UT3 ads today. That game also came out at the same time, sold poorly, and suffered from many of the same issues that crysis did. *BUT* I don't recall them ever bitching about piracy. Because you probably can't blame piracy for an online game.

But it is much easier to say piracy is the cause, instead of...

imagined interview follows...


Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli admits to putting out a rushed product
Well, we had a whole bunch of ideas, some worked well, some did not work at all. We were rushed to get the game out in time for christmas season, so naturally we were not able to address many polish and gameplay issues. In retrospect we should have released the game later, when there was not so much heavy competition within the same month.

We built a wonderful game engine and editor. But the final product was a bit... boring. Too many sections looked the same. We probably should have spent less time on the game engine and more time on the actual game itself.

I think we built up many peoples expectations about what the game would be, how it would look and how it would play. We put out a lot of trailers and previews to hype up the game, but then when people purchased the game, the reality did not live up to the expectations. So we made a mistake in releasing so much information in advance.

The piracy issue? Ok, I got carried away about the piracy aspect. In many cases piracy will act to give people a taste of the finished product, and if they like it, and want to experience the online content, they will go out and buy it. Unfortunately the pirates also did not like the finished product, so we also lost sales.

We made a big mistake in abandoning the first crysis product. We see now that we should have made a bigger effort to address the gameplay issues and to really make the online play a stronger factor for purchasing the game.

We hope to correct many of these issues with our expansion. Only I hope that we have not alienated too many of out customers based on our previous behavior.

Oh, and sorry to you Koreans, we did not mean to stereotype you as a race, but you have been receiving much bad press lately and besides, what can you do about it anyway? We could have used nazis, but there have been enough nazi games, and we would have had to go back in time for that.

I personally want to apologize to our shareholders for the poor performance of the product we put out. I pledge to you that we will do better on our next game. If you choose to fire me, then so be it, I accept responsiblity.

[timothy2]

you know, I saw some UT3 ads today. I don't recall them ever bitching about piracy. Because you probably can't blame piracy for an online game.



You're kidding, right? Epic, because of "Piracy" is no more a PC exclusive company, and they said so many times.

Also, what does "online game" has to do with anything?

[The Deadsider]

Didn't they blame Gears of War PC not being the best thing since ever because of piracy, too?

[Caboose O'Malley]

Didn't they blame Gears of War PC not being the best thing since ever because of piracy, too?

Yep, and also Dell for making crappy integrated gfx chips, and I think CliffyB*tch also blamed God and his mom in the process.

It feels like the gamers are acting more mature than most game developers these days...

[Delicieuxz]

Off topic:

Gears of War was shitty dumb meat-head game with completely un-appealing characters, many lame enemies and stupid situations, which were painfully cheesy in a "we honestly thought this was cool and clever" way. It's a game that meth-smoking chotches would think is sweet due their perceptions have been so warped by their desires to look tough, while lacking the brainpower to think up anything impressive.


Sorry, that's the first time I've gotten to say that, and I guess I'm insecure enough that I wanted others to know what I think on the matter.

[Lethe]

^^ Agreed :D

Gears of War is epitome of sterileness that is going on in today's gaming. Keep that crap on consoles please. Oh, and... COD4 is not much different.

Ontopic:

As far as Crysis go, i actually managed to finish it yesterday, and It really saddens me somehow.

The engine is downright perfect. Freaking photorealistic at times. Effects are not overused. If they only invested little more time in crafting the story, it could've easily been the fps of decade. Also, while it is unarguably a flawed game, It really is not THAT bad.

You know what? I think this engine is perfect for AvP game. I would really like to see that thing happen.

[avatar_58]

^^ Agreed :D

Gears of War is epitome of sterileness that is going on in today's gaming. Keep that crap on consoles please. Oh, and... COD4 is not much different.


Careful not to drop your monocle when you make statements like that.

[Lethe]

Careful not to drop your monocle when you make statements like that.

I don't understand that :D

[avatar_58]

You just insinuated that sterile games belong on the consoles, as if the platform has anything to do with it.

[Lethe]

You just insinuated that sterile games belong on the consoles, as if the platform has anything to do with it.

Misunderstanding! I don't have anything against consoles. I just wish that they stop wasting time in porting such games from consoles. I would like to play Burnout on pc. Hell, I would kill for GTA4 on pc, and that is definitely a console game.

Actually, the majority of games I'm interested in at the moment, are from consoles. But I can't live without keyboard/mouse combo.

[avatar_58]

I sort of agree in the sense that shitty games get ported, but in this day and age I would think the PC platform needs all the help it can get. Capcom for instance is porting tons of it's games for the PC now. While I don't particularly see the charm in Devil May Cry, I'm glad it was ported.

I mean frankly if GOW is the worst port we see all year then we're in a very good place.

[boglito]

Yep, and also Dell for making crappy integrated gfx chips, and I think CliffyB*tch also blamed God and his mom in the process.

It feels like the gamers are acting more mature than most game developers these days...

I don't think shitheads on forums denying the problems of piracy while they have their torrent-client pumping 24/7 are more mature than developers...

[Damien_Azreal]

What? Where did that come from?

[Jiminator]

ummmm... yeah. thanks for the characterization. is it a problem? yes. is it the reason that games do not sell? no. Certainly they would sell more, but how much more is questionable. I don't think I have ever heard anyone quote the 10 to 1 ratio before. As for the torrent thingy, on the rare occasions when I use them, it is to download pron. :) For games, I have a shelf full of them, but the reality is that good games worth buying are rare. If the industry wants to solve the piracy problem then it needs to get serious and honest about what a game is and how people use it. The online model works well, distribute a game for free, have a level as a 'trainer' and get online to fully play the rest. There will be plusses and minuses to any system imagined, but right now the industry is attacking piracy by draconian measures that only affect the customers that are actually buying the product. How ridiculous is that?

[Malgon]

A few new screenshots here. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53523)

[Malgon]

Details and pricing. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53569)

[Damien_Azreal]

At thirty bucks, a better story and improved more optimized engine... it could be worth it.

[timothy2]

ummmm... yeah. thanks for the characterization. is it a problem? yes. is it the reason that games do not sell? no. Certainly they would sell more, but how much more is questionable. I don't think I have ever heard anyone quote the 10 to 1 ratio before. As for the torrent thingy, on the rare occasions when I use them, it is to download pron. :) For games, I have a shelf full of them, but the reality is that good games worth buying are rare. If the industry wants to solve the piracy problem then it needs to get serious and honest about what a game is and how people use it. The online model works well, distribute a game for free, have a level as a 'trainer' and get online to fully play the rest. There will be plusses and minuses to any system imagined, but right now the industry is attacking piracy by draconian measures that only affect the customers that are actually buying the product. How ridiculous is that?


Console games sell more because they are hard to pirate, end of story.



On topic: More crysis, YEAH!

[Jiminator]

crysis warhead review http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=934

looks like the new crysis is just more lazy levels using the super level editor

If you want to play more Crysis levels without having to deal with all the cost of fresh-feeling content, you're in luck.

Where to start? After thirty minutes of playing Crysis Warhead, I saw a couple new guns, some new particle effects, and a new mission. A mission that, outside of a dull scripted vehicle sequence, could have passed as content from the original Crysis.
Don't get me wrong: I very much enjoyed the original Crysis, and the stand-alone Warhead's $29.99 price point keeps the lack of new features from being insulting.

[Mr Bear]

That's not a review, just some guy's initial impressions from playing a small section of the game....but I still think what he said could be accurate.

[Malgon]

crysis warhead review http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=934

looks like the new crysis is just more lazy levels using the super level editor

I didn't really expect anything significantly new for Warhead anyway. I'll probably pick it up once I'm done with some other games.

[timothy2]

Yes I'm going to get it too. I can never have enough Crysis!

[KO Gilligan]

Not to bash Crysis, but after playing the Demo, I was left severly unimpressed... Especially with all the concept art and all the hype about system requirements and AI and even a few very nicely chosen screenshots that just were not how the game looked while playing it. Maybe the actual game would have been fun for me, I may never know.

Is the game as mediocre as the PC demo, or was it a mistake to release a map that just wasn't very impressive? Because when I see that they are saying they gave too much information early on, I can read between the lines and see they regretted that demo as well.

As far as being the game everybody upgraded their computer for, was anyone else underwhelmed by the use of latest generation GPU capabilities (kinda felt like another stinky - "any ol' platform" port to me.....)?

[boglito]

Not to bash Crysis, but after playing the Demo, I was left severly unimpressed... Especially with all the concept art and all the hype about system requirements and AI and even a few very nicely chosen screenshots that just were not how the game looked while playing it. Maybe the actual game would have been fun for me, I may never know.

Is the game as mediocre as the PC demo, or was it a mistake to release a map that just wasn't very impressive? Because when I see that they are saying they gave too much information early on, I can read between the lines and see they regretted that demo as well.

As far as being the game everybody upgraded their computer for, was anyone else underwhelmed by the use of latest generation GPU capabilities (kinda felt like another stinky - "any ol' platform" port to me.....)?

If you didn't like the demo then you will probably not like the full game. I can't think of any game that can be compared to Crysis except Far Cry, though. The game is different from most others, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.

[Mr Bear]

Brand spankin' new trailer at gametrailers.com.

This has to be the most extreme case of a trailer or advertisement convincing me to purchase, well....anything. I was very much on the fence about buying Warhead but after seeing that trailer I'm totally sold- many times over.

There is no way I'll be missing this one. The gameplay mechanics haven't changed drastically but that's a plus imho, due to the fact that Crysis was pretty damn good to begin with. Warhead looks to be tweaking those few minor to moderate problems with the first game and making it what it could have been originally. Simply put, Crysis was an ultra awesome, but Warhead looks like it will be even better.

Needless to say, I highly recommend giving the new trailer a look. :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38396.html

[Steve]

I rather like that trailer :) I see Jason Statham has a pretty big roll in this ex pack ;) ;) (Yeah, I haven't been following this ex pack at all :o )

[Damien_Azreal]

You play as Psycho this time. He's the main focus of the story. And Crytek hired and brought in a professional writer for the story, hopefully fixing the weak/bland story elements from Crysis.

Also, they released the system specs a few days ago... lower than Crysis' were. Warhead is actually looking to be better than the original game.

[Steve]

You play as Psycho this time. He's the main focus of the story. And Crytek hired and brought in a professional writer for the story, hopefully fixing the weak/bland story elements from Crysis.

Also, they released the system specs a few days ago... lower than Crysis' were. Warhead is actually looking to be better than the original game.

Cool. Cheers :) Crysis was pretty game... but I felt that's all it had going for it :o It was like a dumb sexy blonde. :eek: A very sexy one at that.

I'm glad crytek hired writers for the ex pack :)

[Mr Bear]

It's not an expansion pack, it's a standalone title.

[Steve]

It's not an expansion pack, it's a standalone title.

Feels like an ex pack :o

[Damien_Azreal]

It's not an expansion pack, it's a standalone title.

it is an expansion pack, just a stand-alone expansion. Same as Blue Shift was for HL, or Perseus Mandate for FEAR, or Overdose for Painkiller. ;)

Just because it doesn't require the original game to function doesn't mean it isn't expanding the universe/story set forth in the original title. As Warhead clearly is.

[Telee]

it is an expansion pack, just a stand-alone expansion. Same as Blue Shift was for HL, or Perseus Mandate for FEAR, or Overdose for Painkiller. ;)

Or Contract JACK for NOLF2.

EDIT: Or Episodes 1 and 2 for Half-Life 2. ;)

[Mr Bear]

Not wanting to scrutinize this much further, but while being an expansion I didn't think Warhead was an expansion pack....

Yes, it technically does come in a cardboard box making it a sort of "pack" in the literal sense, but I was always under the impression that the industry term "expansion pack" almost always referred to a game that required a core product.

Please tell me if I'm wrong, no biggie. :)


Edit: After rereading Damien's and Telee's posts, they seem to be saying that any game taking place in the same setting/world as a previously released title is an expansion pack....so with that reasoning in place every game "sequel" that fits this description would also theoretically be considered an expansion pack?

If Bioshock 2 took place in Rapture and coincided with the events of Bioshock 1, yet used the Unreal Four engine in 2012 it would still be an expansion pack?

[Damien_Azreal]

Man, your reading way to much into this.

[Steve]

Indeed. :o

[Mr Bear]

Lol, you're probably right....boredom on a Saturday night. :)

[boglito]

Preordered at play.com.

GBP 15 - Crysis warhead
GBP 6.5 - Universe at war (from sendit.com)
GBP 18 - Colonization
GBP 18 - Stalker clear skies
GBP 15 - rainbow six vegas 2
GBP 18 - space siege
GBP 18 - warhammer mark of chaos gold (+ expantion)

Play.com rocks.

On a related note amazon.com sucks. I tried to order a USD 30 game there (shattered suns) but I couldn't find the shipping options and the total went up to USD 90 with "international priority courier". Grumblemumble.

[0marTheZealot]

I think the term expansion pack is outdated, no publisher is going to kill their potential sales by having a requiste nowadays. In recent times, I can't think of a single expansion pack that actually required the first game to play. The two crap expansion packs for FEAR and Resurrection of Evil was the last true expansion pack that I can remember.

[boglito]

I think the term expansion pack is outdated, no publisher is going to kill their potential sales by having a requiste nowadays. In recent times, I can't think of a single expansion pack that actually required the first game to play. The two crap expansion packs for FEAR and Resurrection of Evil was the last true expansion pack that I can remember.

First of all they were not crap and secondly they were both stand-alone.

[Damien_Azreal]

No.
Persues Mandate was stand alone, Extraction Point required FEAR to run... and yes, Perseus was shit. Extraction was pretty good though.

[Malgon]

Crysis Warhead minimum specs here. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54175)

[razgriz]

I'm actually looking forward to this game.:)

Hope to actually use a weapon with a warhead.:D

[peoplessi]

I will wait for reviews before picking this up, if it's more of the same - well, I can't be bothered. If it's not better than Crysis.

The original ran like shit due Crytek's inability to optimize the game properly. Hopefully, or so I've heard, that is solved.

[M-Jay]

new screenshots (of the ice world):
http://www.pcgames.de/aid,656766/Bildergalerie/Ego-Shooter/Crysis_Warhead_Erste_HighRes-Screenshots_aus_der_Eiswelt/

[Damien_Azreal]

Sucks that Crytek has already said no demo for this one. I would really like to see the performance enhancements before placing down the cash for it.

[Aegeri]

new screenshots (of the ice world):
http://www.pcgames.de/aid,656766/Bildergalerie/Ego-Shooter/Crysis_Warhead_Erste_HighRes-Screenshots_aus_der_Eiswelt/

Hopefully the snow levels won't make the game run like shit.

[NutWrench]

I'm not going to get this one. I'm a little peeved that the original game was only supported for six months and they've saved a lot of the enhancements for a whole new game. Who's to say that they'll support this next game for even six months?

[Mr Bear]

Gone gold!:D

[M-Jay]

and a trailer:
http://www.pcgames.de/aid,657184/Video/Ego-Shooter/Explosiver_GC-Trailer_zur_Erweiterung_Crysis_Warhead_erschienen/

[Malgon]

This (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54613) might give an idea of what to expect performance wise, on CW.

[Kit]

I’ve had my opinion swayed after listening to GFW a few weeks ago. According to them Warhead was inspired by the new Rambo movie, and as such will be more action orientated.

They also mentioned the possibility of introducing some of the things left out of the original Crysis - like destroyable cover and a section where the ocean gets frozen.

Oh and if you google Warhead reviews, one of the (US) PC mags gave it 92%.

Preordered at play.com.

GBP 15 - Crysis warhead
GBP 6.5 - Universe at war (from sendit.com)
GBP 18 - Colonization
GBP 18 - Stalker clear skies
GBP 15 - rainbow six vegas 2
GBP 18 - space siege
GBP 18 - warhammer mark of chaos gold (+ expantion)


Same here buddy.

Ordered Warhead for £15 and pre-ordered Brothers in Arms and Far Cry 2.

Good times ahead for PC gamers. :)

[boglito]

Oh and if you google Warhead reviews, one of the (US) PC mags gave it 92%.



Sweet! Read some of it. More fun aliens, same old Koreans, lots of stuff to blow up.

Time to kick ass.

[Malgon]

Couple of new screenshots (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54647) showing the ice area. Looks nice. :)

[hanged_man]

ice and aliens levels were the worst part in the first crysis, looking at those screenshots are putting me down instead of exciting me

[Kit]

I wasn't a fan of those section either Hanged Man, but according to the PC Zone review (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=196747) they've fixed the dull parts by improving the AI.

But are the aliens better? "A fairer question might be 'are the aliens as oddly unexciting as last time round?' - the answer to which is a straight no. They're a lot more dynamic now, they get into scrapes with the Korean army and they jump from rock to rock with AI routines that have a lot more in common with your be-nanosuited foes.

"Warhead honestly is the finest burst of action gaming released so far this year, and if you're canny then you'll be able to pick it up for a mere £15 from online retailers. It's a five hour tour-de-force that's plugged the holes in Crysis with diamonds."

Five hours is short but for £15 who’s arguing.

[Water12356]

So thats $26.35 in US dollars... im guessing it will retail for $30? Hmmm, maybe it might get my wallet to open, lets see some reviews then.

[boglito]

I wasn't a fan of those section either Hanged Man, but according to the PC Zone review (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=196747) they've fixed the dull parts by improving the AI.



Five hours is short but for £15 who’s arguing.

I bet its not 5 hours on delta, the only way to play.

[razgriz]

I played the first one twice (normal then Delta) and I uninstalled it.

I may play this spin-off though.

[Echo Black]

Delta made no sense. Regular enemies took more shots to the body to kill than you, despite not having a nanosuit. Also, the crosshair is supposed to be a feature of Nomad's visor, and it's off in Delta.

[FullMetalJacket]

God, I can't STAND shooters where unarmored human enemies soak up multiple shots to the vitals from close range and just shrug them off. Even worse is enemies that survive being shot in the face. The first Max Payne, awesome as it was, was guilty of this. I'm also not crazy about one-hit-kill models, either (like in the original Rainbow Six games, where you'd be wearing heaviest armor and a shot to the foot with a pistol from 400 yards would kill you instantly).

The damage model in Call of Duty 4 is perfect IMO.

[boglito]

Also, the crosshair is supposed to be a feature of Nomad's visor, and it's off in Delta.

Because on Delta Nomad turns off his crosshairs. ;)

[Kit]

God, I can't STAND shooters where unarmored human enemies soak up multiple shots to the vitals from close range and just shrug them off. Even worse is enemies that survive being shot in the face.

Yeah, it can take a hell of a lot of bullets to take someone down in Crysis. I can recall a few times when I've unloaded an entire clip on a solider only to be called a 'yankee coward!' as he stood back up. :doh:

I think* they fixed the problem with the 1.1 patch by lowering damage tolerance and sorting the hit boxes out. I'm not sure how drastic the difference was though.

[big fat lazy]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/909/909584p1.html
IGN review- 9.4

[Daveman]

Eurogamer gave it a 9/10, which is a very rare score for them to give.

[boglito]

It makes me really glad to see these first review are so positive. 3 reviews now on metacritic and they average 92, which is awesome. I was a little worried that reviewers would be slightly tilted by the general negative attitude towards crysis and crytek on gaming forums, but it seems warhead can take the heat. I'll reserve final judgement untill I have the sweet box in my filthy little hands, but if it's better than the original I should be in for a treat.

[MAT]

It looks like they polished every aspect of the game with Warhead. Can't wait for it now.

[avatar_58]

The Eurogamer review piqued my interest. I may end up getting it after all.

[Damien_Azreal]

If they managed to fix the issues that caused Crysis to stumble about, I would pick Warhead up instantly. So the reviews sound very good.

[hanged_man]

i have to get a new pc for this one ...im getting excited

[Damien_Azreal]

I could run Crysis on High, so I should have no issues with Warhead. :) That's at least one plus.

[Kit]

At what res though? even the newly released 280GTX is stuck at 30-40fps - at 1920x1200 Admittedly.

Saying that if it's as optimized as they've stated who knows.

[Damien_Azreal]

1280*1024.... that's enough for me. It's the res I played Crysis at on High.

[Kristian Joensen]

Crysis and Crysis Warhead are both coming to Steam it seems. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54725)

[Damien_Azreal]

Not that surprising really. EA's download system is horrible, and it caused a lot of problems during Crysis' release.

[razgriz]

Neat!

Hopefully, both of them will be optimized.

Warhead sounds tempting. Should I give in or is it just the same sexy but dumb girl as before?

[Malgon]

The IGN review sounds fairly positive. I'm excited for some more Crysis. :)

[razgriz]

The IGN review sounds fairly positive. I'm excited for some more Crysis. :)

I read the review too.

All the talk of more sandbox action and better multiplayer sounds great!:cool:

Plus, it is only $30!

[Echo Black]

Over at Shacknews, they're saying it'll be up for preorder this weekend. I think I will get Crysis Warhead via Steam.

They should make a Crysis pack for a few bucks less, or whatever. Draw attention to the series. I'm also wondering if I'll be able to register a Steam copy of Crysis using the cd-key of my (store-bought) Crysis. I'm guessing not, tho.

[Daveman]

Probably not. I think only Valve CD keys can be registered.

[avatar_58]

Damnit, I *almost* thought this was EAgames way of giving in to steam. Turns out Crytek is using the EA partners program, much like valve. So EA was NEVER involved with Crysis, they simply boxed it up.

Ah well, good news either way. I just may buy Warhead over steam.

[Steve]

I just may buy Warhead over steam.

Heck yes!

[Orochi Avlis]

Probably not. I think only Valve CD keys can be registered.
CoD keys are accepted too.

[big fat lazy]

CoD keys are accepted too.

I tried it with CoD 2 and it didn't work.

[ShadeEX]

CoD keys are accepted too.

Nope not true



Which retail CD Keys are accepted on Steam?

All retail Valve games and a number of third-party games can be registered to your Steam account. All of the following games can be registered through Steam:

* Valve CD Keys in this format: ####-#####-####
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* The Ship CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q

Opposing Force CD-keys cannot be registered through Steam. Opposing Force was included in a retail Half-Life package. The Half-Life CD-key included in the package will unlock all of the games in that package, including Opposing Force.

Note: Only the retail third-party games listed above can be registered through Steam. No other third-party games can be registered and downloaded using Steam.

Source:https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-WUSF-3601

Only retail cd-keys listed in that support ticket (and in that ticket ONLY) are supported for use with Steam.

[Paroxysm]

Well I ordered through steam. The demo for Crysis ran well on my comp but I didn't think the full game would be worth the price. So it seems that fixed the issues I had with it, made it run better, gave an awesome action focussed campaign (and being short is a plus for me) and delivered it cheap as chips. Sounds good to me.

[Damien_Azreal]

Has anybody in the UK picked it up yet? Release date for the UK was listed as the 12, with US on the 16 and Australia a few days later.

[avatar_58]

I ordered through steam, should be fun. :D

[Mr Bear]

Has anybody in the UK picked it up yet? Release date for the UK was listed as the 12, with US on the 16 and Australia a few days later.

Nope, they pushed it back(slightly)......NA is getting it on the 18th and UK the 19th. I think AU gets it on the 18th, too.

[Malgon]

CW interview (http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=999) discussing some of the design choices behind the game.

[Stense]

I'd been thinking about picking up Crysis for a while now. Seeing it coming to Steam resulted in one of those impulse orders. I can't preload it yet though which is kind of annoying, I was hoping to be able to start playing the day of release.

[razgriz]

I'll be buying Warhead on Steam now.

Very promising.:)

[Paroxysm]

I really hope Warhead does well. Already I know probabyl at least 5 times as many people that have bought it than ever bought crysis. It's just a great example of what so many of us want (that's if the game is as good as it seems). A dev that listens to the community reaction, gives people the option to get the product how they like, a great price point. There was a lot of blame put on piracy for Crysis' performance which most of us didn't agree with. Now they've given us pretty much exactly what many of the critics were asking for and I hope it pays off for them.

[Malgon]

I checked at EB today and it's coming out on the 24th over here. I thought it was out today for some reason. :o

[Damien_Azreal]

Another reivew....

Gamesradar (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/crysis-warhead/review/crysis-warhead/a-200809161632358014/g-20080609143756441028/p-2)

And another.... Gamespy (http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/crysis-warhead/910630p1.html).

These reviews say it's good... but not great. Not as ass-kissing as IGN's review was. So, I'm not sure who to follow and I'm now a little glad I have decided against buying it just yet.

[avatar_58]

I checked at EB today and it's coming out on the 24th over here. I thought it was out today for some reason. :o

That's because steam said it would be, it's not delayed is it?

[CommanderZx2]

I've ordered it. It only releases on Friday in UK.

[huey_yeng]

Gamespot Review (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysiswarhead/review.html?tag=topslot;thumb;2)

I might consider buying Warhead if there is a demo to test out the performance. Crysis demo ran too slow for my liking on my current rig even at low settings. :o

[SpinX]

This is the best game of 2008 thus far, no doubt about it... really impressive... what a gameplay adventure... even much better gfx as crysis, much, much better level design...

Some console-esque features, like on every difficulty level except delta force, you pick up ammo intstantly, but delta force has become even nicer to play as in the original...

what a game experience for only 30 euro... THIS IS A MUST BUY... This is blockbuster movie experience on your desktop...

[avatar_58]

Some console-esque features, like on every difficulty level except delta force, you pick up ammo intstantly, but delta force has become even nicer to play as in the original...


How can you call something that's been in every shooter since Wolf3D console-esque? Personally I didn't like having to hit 'f' to pickup ammo for guns. Especially since I do not memorize the obscure calibres and names of guns in shooters, so I'd really rather the game grab this stuff for me.

Let me choose the guns themselves, however I see no reason why I must grab ammo manually.

[hanged_man]

Some console-esque features, like on every difficulty level except delta force, you pick up ammo intstantly, but delta force has become even nicer to play as in the original...


then im playing in delta ...i found picking up the ammo and the weapons much more realistic and i really liked it

[Kev_Boy]

Gamespot Review (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/crysiswarhead/review.html?tag=topslot;thumb;2)

I might consider buying Warhead if there is a demo to test out the performance. Crysis demo ran too slow for my liking on my current rig even at low settings. :o

Do consider, they gave the original Crysis 9.5 - which is frankly, quite absurd.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well it's been confirmed that Warhead uses SecuROM copy protection, same as most EA titles these days (only thing I don't look forward to with Dead Space). But no comment yet on installation limits or not.

[avatar_58]

Well it's been confirmed that Warhead uses SecuROM copy protection, same as most EA titles these days (only thing I don't look forward to with Dead Space). But no comment yet on installation limits or not.

Boy am I glad I bought the steam version now. Of course, it *could* be like Bioshock and still have the limits. Though I doubt they'd be that stupid.

[Damien_Azreal]

This is Crytek, remember the all the shit they said about how bad piracy was on Crysis. ;) And I've read rumors that even the STEAM version of the game has it in it. Just rumors, but an official statement from EA would be nice.

[avatar_58]

Well someone uninstall and reinstall it 3 times and find out! :D

[Vroomfondel]

According to the Steam forums, the Steam version has the same limitations as the retail version.

[CommanderZx2]

Looks like people who never buy games anyway have found the Amazon comments section (http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B001ATHKVC/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_summary?_encoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending)

[Damien_Azreal]

Well someone uninstall and reinstall it 3 times and find out! :D

Unless you change your graphics card or some piece of hardware in between each install... it won't make any difference. :)

On any one setup, you can install as many times as you want. But your only allowed three installs on different hardware setups. Three different PCs. But you can install and uninstall as many times as you want on each machine as long as no hardware is changed.

To anyone overly concerned with the DRM/install limits... a nifty little article about it.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080916-ars-puts-spore-drm-to-the-testwith-a-surprising-result.html

They test the install limitations. Installing SPORE five times on one machine, one time on two other machines... and finally have an issue when trying to install it on a fifth machine.
Your allowed unlimited installs on one machine, as long as the hardware goes through no changes.

[avatar_58]

No offence to Amazon, but they need to fix that problem. If you aren't a member for a year and don't have a paying account you shouldn't be allowed to comment. It would stop the asshatery and comment spam big time.

Also I put Warhead in DX9 since it ran a little smoother, but now I get some texture bugs during cutscenes. :( Have to toy around with it some more.

[Amakou]

What does it take to run Crysis on MAX settings?

~Amakou~

[Damien_Azreal]

Also, your allowed five different computer installs in Warhead.

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=36974&sid=2c6296999b6003892470c7e9726cd33f

Now, if I can get some solid info about performance in WinXP I may look into getting warhead. :)

[Paroxysm]

**** I forgot to check that Crysis warhead had secureROM before I preordered it on Steam(why the hell is it even in the steam version? They could use the modified exe to make a crack? Geez shall we take bets on how many hours it takes to crack anyway?). God damn I wish I could cancel my order.

[Steve]

**** I forgot to check that Crysis warhead had secureROM before I preordered it on Steam(why the hell is it even in the steam version? They could use the modified exe to make a crack? Geez shall we take bets on how many hours it takes to crack anyway?). God damn I wish I could cancel my order.

Wh...why do they need that for the steam version :confused:

[Paroxysm]

I've written to valve demanding my money back and cancellation of my pre order on the grounds that they failed to mention Securerom in any materials or EULA.

[Paroxysm]

All the nice things I said about Crytek earlier in the thread I take back. I hope this game fails so hard they start talking about how great their crysis sales were in comparison.

[Paroxysm]

Oh BTW I just looked. It seems Crysis Warhead is cracked. EA and Crytek can both rot in hell (no I'm not pirating it).

[ZuljinRaynor]

Overreact much?

Atleast it's not Starforce which rapes you PC.

[Steve]

Oh BTW I just looked. It seems Crysis Warhead is cracked. EA and Crytek can both rot in hell (no I'm not pirating it).

No surprise there :)

[Damien_Azreal]

Overreact much?


Yeah, little bit.

[Paroxysm]

Overreact much?

Atleast it's not Starforce which rapes you PC.

Not to the same extent but it's still a resident program that runs in the background, can interfere with other software and is not removed when you remove the game.

And anyway the existence of this DRM scheme in Steam is completely counter intuitive to the point of Steam. We're going to have to start managing the DRM inside our DRM now?

[avatar_58]

Not to the same extent but it's still a resident program that runs in the background, can interfere with other software and is not removed when you remove the game.

And anyway the existence of this DRM scheme in Steam is completely counter intuitive to the point of Steam. We're going to have to start managing the DRM inside our DRM now?

While I agree with you I question what you said about the EULA. I'd have to re-read it, maybe there WAS something about Securom in there. I'm annoyed that they'd double-drm me, but frankly had I bought retail it would still be Securom'd. So....what can you do?

[ZuljinRaynor]

And anyway the existence of this DRM scheme in Steam is completely counter intuitive to the point of Steam. We're going to have to start managing the DRM inside our DRM now?

Yeah this I do have a problem with. It defeats the whole purpose of Steam; specifically the part where you can install anywhere.

[Steve]

Whenever I put my Crysis and\or Spore CD into my DVD drive they make a loud clicking sound. It's fuxing annoying. Securom?

[ZuljinRaynor]

More like LOLROM Drive.

[Paroxysm]

While I agree with you I question what you said about the EULA. I'd have to re-read it, maybe there WAS something about Securom in there. I'm annoyed that they'd double-drm me, but frankly had I bought retail it would still be Securom'd. So....what can you do?

Well I double checked before I sent off to valve. Certainly couldn't find SecureRom in there anywhere. Unless of course they put the text in part of an image that I couldn't do a keyword search on. And I'm trying to get my money back (I haven't even downloaded it yet) that's what I'm trying to do about it :P Seems like an appropriate way to protest something to me.

[Steve]

More like LOLROM Drive.

lol :D only does it with those two games :)

[avatar_58]

Does it? You'd rather not play a game if it means being restricted for future plays? Not me. I'd rather at least play it once and enjoy it, than just sit on the sidelines complaining about the copy protection.

Yes it sucks, but really - you can't think your one sale will change EA's mind do you? This is the trend. Complaints WILL make them change their minds as we see with Spore's loosening, but clearly they aren't giving up Securom.

Would you rather Warhead not be released at all? Crytek didn't like how the original was pirated. They are trying new forms of DRM. I think the Securom in the steam copy is a mistake actually, as Bioshock had the same problem. They quickly removed it to avoid issues. Why not wait and see if the backlash causes EA to do the same?

[ZuljinRaynor]

Does it? You'd rather not play a game if it means being restricted for future plays? Not me. I'd rather at least play it once and enjoy it, than just sit on the sidelines complaining about the copy protection.

Yes it sucks, but really - you can't think your one sale will change EA's mind do you? This is the trend. Complaints WILL make them change their minds as we see with Spore's loosening, but clearly they aren't giving up Securom.

Would you rather Warhead not be released at all? Crytek didn't like how the original was pirated. They are trying new forms of DRM. I think the Securom in the steam copy is a mistake actually, as Bioshock had the same problem. They quickly removed it to avoid issues. Why not wait and see if the backlash causes EA to do the same?

Hopefully they do like Ubisoft and do change. That's one of the best moves Ubi ever did (to drop Starforce).

[Paroxysm]

Does it? You'd rather not play a game if it means being restricted for future plays? Not me. I'd rather at least play it once and enjoy it, than just sit on the sidelines complaining about the copy protection.

Yes it sucks, but really - you can't think your one sale will change EA's mind do you? This is the trend. Complaints WILL make them change their minds as we see with Spore's loosening, but clearly they aren't giving up Securom.

Would you rather Warhead not be released at all? Crytek didn't like how the original was pirated. They are trying new forms of DRM. I think the Securom in the steam copy is a mistake actually, as Bioshock had the same problem. They quickly removed it to avoid issues. Why not wait and see if the backlash causes EA to do the same?

Yes I'd rather not play the game when doing so would be adding validity to a decision I totally oppose on all levels. Sure one sale doesn't make a difference but you might as well make the argument about any small effort. Why bother voting? One vote doesn't make a difference. Complaining only effects EA when it hurts their bottom line so not buying it and complaining > buying it and complaining.

Nobody buys Cryteks arguments about Crysis' poor sales being due to piracy. They've made a very bad choice here and I hope it hurts them financially.

[avatar_58]

So answer me this. Do you own Mass Effect or Bioshock? They used the exact same protection. Yet oddly enough neither recieved as much flak as Spore. In fact so far no one has even noticed Warhead yet, and that makes me laugh. It's all securom, it's all limited. The only difference being Bioshock had it's limit removed months after it's release.

Also, do you not enjoy Sam and Max? They use hardware fingerprinting too my friend.

[Paroxysm]

I own bioshock only because someone bought it for me for my birthday last year. I haven't installed it since my last rebuild because I prefer not to have secureRom running.

As for sam and max admittedly I do have it and although it does hardware fingerprinting I haven't had any trouble reinstalling it on several computer. I can't find much information on if those restrictions exist it merely seems to want you to reactivate if your hardware changes (which has been standard for many software products for a long time). Also:
We haven't turned on any of the malware-ish settings. All it does it check to see if the disc is in the drive. It doesn't install any securom components on your computer (and neither do the downloadable versions)

[avatar_58]

You are avoiding the question. If you truly wanted to "send a message" you'd not own any Securom games. It's like calling oneself a vegetarian but eating a burger every sunday.

[Paroxysm]

I didn't avoid it. The answer is yes I do. I said I didn't buy Bioshock and I was frankly unaware that Sam and Max was using SecureRom (even though it's implementation seems far more acceptable).

[ZuljinRaynor]

Bioshock has unlimited activations now so it doesn't matter.

[ZuljinRaynor]

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54837

Posted this in the Spore thread too. The number of activations is gonna go up to 5 and there is going to be a deactivator to get your activations back.

Double Post for Bump.

[Steve]

So it's the same deal as Bioshock when that was first released?

[ZuljinRaynor]

I'm assuming so. I wonder if the outcry continues then maybe they'll just make it 50 installs. (I was gonna say unlimted but come on, it's EA ;)).

[Damien_Azreal]

Hey, EA is actually trying now.

Before, they probably would've just ignored all the complaints and walked away. But at least now they are making efforts to keep the community happy.

[Mr Bear]

Got it. Despite having taking a few steps back in some areas, the shortcomings are more than compensated for by the vast gameplay improvements made. I definitely prefer it over the original Crysis.

I've read quite a few reviews for Warhead where the unanimous verdict seems to be that the game runs faster despite having received a graphical update.

Yet in almost every forum I go onto, people are complaining left and right that the game not only performs considerably worse than it predecessor, but the visuals have been downgraded.....wtf?

I tend to trust the reviewers more, but I guess I'll just have to try it out for myself. :)

This nifty article (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,660402/News/Crysis_Warhead_-_Comparative_screenshots_with_DX9_vs_DX10_and_all_ quality_settings/) has seriously convinced me that the unimproved graphics claims are merely myths. Especially after looking at this (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,660402/News/Crysis_Warhead_-_Comparative_screenshots_with_DX9_vs_DX10_and_all_ quality_settings/?page=10) and even more so, this (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,660402/News/Crysis_Warhead_-_Comparative_screenshots_with_DX9_vs_DX10_and_all_ quality_settings/?page=9). ;)

[Paroxysm]

From what I've read the speed improvements are direct X 9 centric so those using 10 aren't' seeing a benefit. Of course for those of us who won't touch vista with a 12 foot clown pole it's all good :)

[Mr Bear]

So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there's a s**tload of Dx10 whores out there? Hence the contradiction?

[Steve]

So I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there's a s**tload of Dx10 whores out there? Hence the contradiction?

I honestly say I can't tell the difference between Crysis on high settings (XP) compared to very high settings (vista) :o

[Yatta]

I honestly say I can't tell the difference between Crysis on high settings (XP) compared to very high settings (vista) :o

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/41631/Crysis-Warhead-DX10-vs-DX9-High-Detail-vs-DX9-Low-Detail-Screenshots

Look at the sky.

Meh, **** DX10. I can't wait for the day when all this DX bs will be over with, and shaders will become so programmable that you won't be able to create stupid OS limitations that prevent them from working in XP or any other good OS.

[Steve]

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/41631/Crysis-Warhead-DX10-vs-DX9-High-Detail-vs-DX9-Low-Detail-Screenshots

Look at the sky.

Meh, **** DX10. I can't wait for the day when all this DX bs will be over with, and shaders will become so programmable that you won't be able to create stupid OS limitations that prevent them from working in XP or any other good OS.
Heh. Never looked at the sky :p

[Yetaman]

About performance...

In my system the game runs and looks better than the original Crysis did. With all the graphics set on "Enthusiast" at 1280x1024 (Thats like Very High), I get around 25-35 fps during most firefights, it never went below 20fps, or above 45fps, to make it clear, its playable and very fluid most of the time, with few exeptions (The swamp area, visited while riding the train is one of them, no idea why, its not very visually impressive).

The character models continue to impress me, they are the best i´ve seen on any game, ever, especially during cutscenes, it looks even better than most CGI out there, same about the explosions, totally fu**ing awesome.

Only thing I regret is playing it on Delta from the first time around, some areas are almost imposible, those KPA are tougher than Robocop, on the later areas of the game, it was harder to dispach some normal armored troops than the ones with Korean Nanosuits...

My specs:

Q6600, Stock.
AMD Sapphire R4850, also Stock
2GB DDR2 Gskill, nothing special.
ASUS P5Q E
Sound Blaster Live, got some audio issues during some cutscenes, I think something like that happened in Crysis, but i cant remember what I did to fix it, not a major issue anyway.

Screens:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9956/crysis2008091918290989cc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/crysis2008091918290989cc3.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img221/crysis2008091918290989cc3.jpg/1/)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8255/crysis2008091918295479mj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/crysis2008091918295479mj5.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img221/crysis2008091918295479mj5.jpg/1/)

[Amakou]

I honestly say I can't tell the difference between Crysis on high settings (XP) compared to very high settings (vista) :o

Well, you can get Very High on XP if you want to.

~Amakou~

[Damien_Azreal]

The only real differences are the sun shafts, parallax occlusion mapping and color grading. All possible in DX9 with a few tweaks.

[Talos]

Screens


It's Kurt Russel!

[Nessus]

So how is the gameplay? I think I'm going to pick it up anyway but no one is talking about it and I'm wondering how it compares to Crysis.

And for securerom they could solve the whole problem if they just guaranteed up front that in 3 years time they will release a patch removing all restrictions. This way people don't have to hope they will do the right thing in the future and take it off so we can play in decades to come without having to "reaquire" a copy.

[ZuljinRaynor]

So how is the gameplay? I think I'm going to pick it up anyway but no one is talking about it and I'm wondering how it compares to Crysis.

And for securerom they could solve the whole problem if they just guaranteed up front that in 3 years time they will release a patch removing all restrictions. This way people don't have to hope they will do the right thing in the future and take it off so we can play in decades to come without having to "reaquire" a copy.

It's apparantly much better in pacing and everything than Crysis.

[FullMetalJacket]

Game definitely runs smoother and is more action-packed...but for some reason, the audio kinda skips out a lot. Suggestions?

[hanged_man]

im having random crashes after playing like an hour. This game is real good and crytek guys really did a good job, i cant believe this is being sold only for 30$ and its definitely running smoother than the original crysis

[Yetaman]

About the gameplay...

I played it on Delta the first time, after credits rolled, I went back and started it again on Easy mode, aaaaand I have to say it was much more fun that way, because as the game gets harder and it starts sending waves after waves of aliens and armored koreans at you. The only way to survive is to rely more and more on the predator/sniper thing, and that gets REALLY difficult on the later stage.

The main problem is the amount of things you can do with the nanosuit before it runs out of juice and you realize that without it, stopping an alien invasion is not a very user friendly task.

Thats why I edited the files that the game uses to set the difficulty, by adding the enemy reaction times and characteristics of the delta level to the easier modes, but retaining the nanosuit easy mode regeneration abilities, that way I can actually play Rambo without depleting the damn thing after jumping/walking /running 10 meters in strength/cloak/speed mode.

I would also like to complain about the cutscenes, I think the ones in Crysis (1?) where much more....elaborated, interesting....I dont know, but at least they didnt have me watching a guy´s silent face for full 30 seconds waiting for something to happen.

Warhead is like HL2 E1, its the fun and beauty of the Original game, compressed and optimized.

More Screens:

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7034/crysis2008092019194496bxq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/crysis2008092019194496bxq5.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img364/crysis2008092019194496bxq5.jpg/1/)

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2377/crysis2008092019264275ql3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/crysis2008092019264275ql3.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img227/crysis2008092019264275ql3.jpg/1/)

PS1: Yeah, its Kurt Russell, British and bald.

PS2: Weapon customization is very, very nice.

[Amakou]

Alright...I caved...I bought the Crysis + Warhead pack off of Steam. And it's installing now.

~Amakou~

[ZuljinRaynor]

Alright...I caved...I bought the Crysis + Warhead pack off of Steam. And it's installing now.

~Amakou~

Sadly it's not much of a pack. It's just both together for full price.

[Yetaman]

Some things that are not very evident:

You can change ammunition types on various weapons, the ones that i remember:

The AK-like Korean Assault rifle (Normal, Incendiary, you can also change the rate of fire of most guns)
Grenades (Smoke, Flash, Fragmentation and EMP, this is done with a different key.."Y" I think, better look the manual)
Grenade Launcher, only in Warhead (Frag or EMP, selected in the customization menu)

Also...Remember to use the force err, I mean that using the nanosuit´s different powers to overcome your enemies is MUCH more fun than just shoot them like on most shooters, something that the game in its "free roaming" nature, sometimes forgets to emphasize.