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Sehaga
07-09-2008, 08:21 AM
Me and a friend of mine have been debating about which Duke Nukem 3D level contains the most monsters ( excluding episode 4 since we didn't have that one back then). The debate has been going on for over 11 years now and we still don't know which one has the most monsters. I've tried to run the levels and see what the maximum amount of monsters I would encounter but it seems that the protozoid slimer cocoons distort the figure I'm looking for. If I don't kill the cocoons immediately they'll spawn "extra" slimers. I'm looking for the amount of monsters of all the levels including all the monsters that need to spawn but not including all the protozoid slimers the cocoons spawn ( so just the cocoons and the protozoid slimers that were already there). As a kid I always thought L.A. Rumble ( including all spawned monsters) had the most monsters, my friend always thought Movie Set had the most monsters. I hope someone can help me end this debate that has been going on for over a decade :D


P.S.

If Movie Set has the most monsters then please lie to me :p
Mr. Crow
07-10-2008, 08:46 AM
Play on the Damn I'm Good, and you can't miss: kill it - it spawns back:p
XTHX2
07-11-2008, 03:18 AM
I think Tier Drops at skill level 3. I'm not quite sure but it can be Flood Zone as well.
Phayzon
07-20-2008, 01:16 PM
Hmmm... L.A. Rumble does have a LOT of monsters, but so does Flood Zone. Also, The Queen has plenty as well
EDIT: If you want to include user maps, BattleField3 has the most by far :p
XTHX2
07-20-2008, 02:18 PM
EDIT: If you want to include user maps, BattleField3 has the most by far
How much does BattleField have? 250? 450? 650? Or, are they even too low?
Hunter_rus
07-21-2008, 03:26 AM
I suggest using mapster32 to count monsters on each map in question.
1. Run mapster32
2. Open a map.
3. Hover the mouse pointer on a wall and press F6.
4. You'll see statistic on amount of monsters so you can count them.

Notes:
1. Respawn monsters appear at specific situations(activated by tags) such as after killing a female, entering a sectors and so on.
2. Queen can spawn the infinite number of newbeasts.
XTHX2
07-21-2008, 03:34 AM
2. Queen can spawn the infinite number of newbeasts.

Hmm, then we should put a time limit or just don't count E4L10 in?
Sang
07-21-2008, 10:55 AM
How much does BattleField have? 250? 450? 650? Or, are they even too low?

Oh just a couple thousand

Also, my maps are being discussed! yay! go me
XTHX2
07-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Is it your map? I'm... scared... THOUSANDS? :insomnia:
NutWrench
07-21-2008, 11:06 AM
I remember early user maps that tried to push the limit with chained explosions.
Why, you needed a 300Mhz Pentium 2 to run one of those! :D
Steve
07-22-2008, 08:01 PM
I remember early user maps that tried to push the limit with chained explosions.
Why, you needed a 300Mhz Pentium 2 to run one of those! :D

Haha. :D I remember in reading stuff like that in the readme files. My 100Mhz could not cope! :D
Blue Lightning
07-23-2008, 10:49 PM
I would think "The Queen" has the most monsters.

But 'Faces of Death" is the hardest.
Sang
07-24-2008, 09:37 AM
Is it your map? I'm... scared... THOUSANDS? :insomnia:

Well BF3 consists of 3 seperate maps (the build board was too small heh), these are estimates of the enemy count for each map (based on pressing F6 in 2D mode in the maps :o)

Map 1 = 1516
Map 2 = 291
Map 3 = 1112

So in total that'd be 2919 enemies :o
XTHX2
07-24-2008, 09:48 AM
Hmm, that's still too much.... lol I'd probably get pissed after a couple seconds.

I still bet on Flood Zone and Tier Drops. Someone should really do a research for us and take a small step for humanitY!
Sang
07-24-2008, 09:56 AM
Hmm, that's still too much.... lol I'd probably get pissed after a couple seconds.

Oh come on, it's not like you just spawn inside a large square and have 3000 enemies coming at you all at once. It's pretty much like Serious Sam ;)
Hockeykid
07-31-2008, 07:08 PM
L.A. Rumble has tons of monsters on "Come Get Some" mode.
XTHX2
08-01-2008, 06:24 AM
Oh come on, it's not like you just spawn inside a large square and have 3000 enemies coming at you all at once. It's pretty much like Serious Sam ;)

I would probably pump my devastator and shoot it while circling around :) or chaingun/freezer :D
Phayzon
08-01-2008, 01:45 PM
Well BF3 consists of 3 seperate maps (the build board was too small heh), these are estimates of the enemy count for each map (based on pressing F6 in 2D mode in the maps :o)

Map 1 = 1516
Map 2 = 291
Map 3 = 1112

So in total that'd be 2919 enemies :o

Does that include triggered spawns? I kinda thought I killed 3000some in Map1 and missed some...
Kenny mckormick
08-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Don't have any link for download this map who looks very nice? :insomnia:
Phayzon
08-01-2008, 10:52 PM
Id upload it somewhere if I can find an unmodified copy. For now, ask Sang ;) After all, its his map
Sang
08-02-2008, 05:20 AM
Does that include triggered spawns? I kinda thought I killed 3000some in Map1 and missed some...

3000 in Map 1 - Nah, impossible.

The map can be found at DNR and at MSDN in the Hot Maps section (the second subsection, the one that goes up until June 2006)
Chip
08-02-2008, 09:54 AM
The most enemies I ever had in 1 map was 1500+. I don't know the exact amount since its been a while but I started expanding the map when I first got ahold of Eduke32 and seen the increasement of sectors / walls and spritrs limit.

One day I plan on recycling this map and actually finish off the expansion to it.....but that's a story for another time.