I can't edit my posts!

[XTHX2]

I don't know why but I can't edit some of my posts such as the thread I have at duke nukem modifications section. I'm unable to edit my first post and some of my other posts. Why can't I do that? :(

[Steve]

How old are the posts you are trying to edit? There's a time limit.

[XTHX2]

7-09-08 Is the date of the post

[ADM]

Yes it's because it's past the cut off time for editing posts. Which I believe is 24 hours.

[XTHX2]

That's not good :P Anyway thanks for replies.

[Joe Siegler]

That's not good :P Anyway thanks for replies.

No, it's very good. It's designed to keep troublemakers from changing the past. History has proven that more trouble comes when you allow unlimited editing.

[XTHX2]

Well I was in need of that because I thought it would be easier to edit the first page where I had to link for my mod for recent updates :P At least I thought it would be easier for other people to get it.

[ryche]

You could ask a mod to edit it for you with the new information but I'm not sure exactly on how they feel about doing that :)

[peoplessi]

They don't like that sort of stuff, that's for sure. I am not sure what is meant to prevent with this? Since you leave a mark everytime you edit something.

I visit a lot bigger forum daily, and you can edit your post as long as the thread isn't locked. It works fine there, though their forum software doesn't even leave a mark when you edit - which is bad.

[bobthefish]

No, it's very good. It's designed to keep troublemakers from changing the past. History has proven that more trouble comes when you allow unlimited editing.

well, i recently came across some spelling errors i made in 2006 on these forums (this thread: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23312 )
i would have liked to correct them so i don't look like a complete dumb ass, but i cant.
i tend to make a lot of spelling errors, as i if a learning disablement which inhibits my ability to spell correctly. (i haven't gotten anything wrong in this post due to spell check in Firefox.

[Scotty]

If I remember correctly, the worst of the "edit post" abuse was from ppl being able to delete posts outright (which was allowed briefly in the 1999-2001 timeframe when UBB added that as a feature) because this allowed users to troll other users to the point of major outbursts of flaming, and then remove their trolls without a trace to make it look entirely like the other user's fault. :mad: In extreme cases, certain troublemakers would start a troll thread, piss off half the ppl on the board, and then delete the entire thread before Joe saw it by deleting the first post. :mad:

Of course this doesn't work if an Archivist (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/archivist.htm) saves copies of such threads and emails them to the proper authorities... :D

-Scotty

...I've seen fire, and I've seen (yellow) rain... :eek:

[wayskobfssae]

It's designed to keep troublemakers from changing the past.

http://www.dvd1081009.com/images/Timecop.jpg

[Joe Siegler]

Heh. That made me laugh. :)

[Superczar]

Ah yeah Scotty I remember those days. More than a few times I remember conversaions turning ugly and then someone "bailed" out with the edit trick...

[Joe Siegler]

You know, I just thought of something. When vBulletin 3.7 was put out, there was a feature that could be useful here.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1450775&postcount=13

We have Wikipedia style histories of posts and their editing, so staff could see what was edited out. Let me think about it a bit. It would on the surface appear to remove the need to keep people from editing their posts.

[ADM]

I'd still leave the edit limit on as it would then require mods to monitor all edits manually.

[peoplessi]

You honestly think that majority of users here would abuse the feature? For me, that sounds a cool feature. Since you could update the first post, e.g. if the thread is about a game, with up to date info. So no need to check through tens and tens of unneeded messages to see "what's new".

I doubt there is real interest for people here to distract admins, and you can always report posts.

[Joe Siegler]

You honestly think that majority of users here would abuse the feature?

There were enough that abused it before that caused the limit we have now.

Yes. Yes I most certainly do believe it would get abused. The question is how much. "majority"? Probably not, but as online forums have proved, you don't have to be a majority to ruin something.

[peoplessi]

Wouldn't such feature limit it greatly? The above mentioned feature, edit history. That would seriously lessen that stuff. I highly doubt it would ruin this forum, as I see it, it would make this forum more clean, as people could correct thread titles, first posts and so on.

[Joe Siegler]

I didn't say "ruin", either.

[peoplessi]

I just think this should be given another thought, since I can't really see how it would make anything for the worse. As I said, it would improve on what we have now.

[Joe Siegler]

Well, you twice put words in my mouth that I didn't say. Both of which would severely change the direction of the conversation. I never like that.

[peoplessi]

Well, english isn't my native language, that was not my intention. For me, only the "ruin" part might be taken as putting words in your mouth, and I apologize, it wasn't my intention. In lack of a better word I used ruin, but I didn't realize that would imply you saying that.

[Scotty]

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...it would make this forum more clean, as people could correct thread titles, first posts and so on.

It's been awhile since I tried it, but I don't think it's possible for a user to edit a thread's title after the thread has been posted, though it used to be possible.

Back in the old days before General Messages had a moderation queue, someone could post a thread, get ppl to reply to it, and then go back and rename the thread's title to "Post here if you suck!" or something similar.

[peoplessi]

Well, that would be just childish. I think the general messages is a lot cleaner nowdays.

[XTHX2]

I guess they won't change it so, why not lock this thread?

[Joe Siegler]

Well, that would be just childish. I think the general messages is a lot cleaner nowdays.

The kind of stuff you refer to there is the kind of crap that actually got Gen Msgs removed for a time.

[Scotty]

I remember 8 years ago when someone posted a really bad (and ban-worthy) MS Paint sketch of Joe. :eek:

The offender not only edited the post, but also removed the pic from the site it was hosted on. :eek:

However, I had already saved a copy of it. :D

-Scotty

...and I had to open an old Outlook archive from 2000 to find it again... :)

[XTHX2]

ROFL! Haha, I wonder what happened to that "someone" after that epic fail!