View Full Version : NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM MCAFFE (ever!)
bobthefish
07-14-2008, 01:23 AM
hey,
im getting extremely pissed at this stupid excuse for an anti-virus. currently, i use a family computer as my personal one clocks in at a whooping 500 mhz processor and no video card.
now, my father installed Mcaffe antivirus and firewall. BIG FU****G MISTAKE!
its one of the dumbest things he has ever done.
heres what it does to me, and what it will do to you if you install it:
waste a good 300 mb of ram
use a very large amount of cpu
wont let me dissable it (and im the system administrator)
and, on top of that,
if i kill all of its about 10 processes it has running, they just restart.
on top of that, its virus removal capabilities are generations behind. avg free edition and spybot search and destroy are MUCH more advanced then this shyte.
the one time i managed to get a virus on my system (well, wasn't a virus. was just adware), Mcaffe found it. when i clicked on "remove", it said "this file cannot be removed". ok, so i clicked "quarantine". "this file cannot be Quarantined."
absolute bull F***ing Shyte.
then i opened the task manager and noticed that the adware had an exe running. so i killed it. i then hit "remove", and mcaffe deleted it with no problem.
is it really nessisary to make such crap and charge so much money for it?
i mean, if spybot cant remove somthing, it reboots your pc and deletes it BEFORE it has a chance to run. so does avg. (BOTH WHICH ARE FREE!)
i am begging my dad to get kaspersky, and with no luck. i know when i get my next PC, i'm just going to install AVG Free and SpyBot S&D.
(or i wont bother with windows, and just install Ubuntu)
Steve
07-14-2008, 02:29 AM
Kaspersky is bloody great! But Mcaffe? You poor, poor bastard. You'd have to pay ME to use that crap. :D
Dave-ros
07-14-2008, 02:48 AM
It is ironic that free software works better than expensive stuff like McAffee -- fortunately I managed to make my mother realise this before it was too late ;)
Rumble
07-14-2008, 04:04 AM
Avast ftw!
jimbob
07-14-2008, 04:44 AM
Mcaffee was the source of many many problems i encountered during my computer guy days. i worked in a school that had Mcaffee as thier virus scanner on all computers and they all had Win98 running. Mcaffee had the very wonderfull feature of removing a few drivers causing boot errors ( network card and some video driver if i remember correctly )
sometimes the damage was irreparable and i had to format the entire system just because of some program that was supposed to help prevent just that.
Stevey Boy
07-14-2008, 06:44 AM
Ive only ever used avg free and spybot S&D, never had any problems with them, so I cant see the point in paying for anything;)
The Stinger
07-14-2008, 07:06 AM
I've used Macfee, Norton, one I can't remember the name of(was in the p1 days and it came on 1 diskette :D) and norman which where all crap. Though there was a time when they actually worked. :o
The better ones that I've used are Kaspersky, Active Virus Shield (which is just a free version of Kaspersky form aol, they use macfee now. I think the 2 compliment each other well :D) and AVG. AVG being the better one, with a smaller memory footprint and it scans you hard drive faster than Kaspersky. My sister and brother in law had some trojans on their computer so I scanned the computer with their copy of Active Virus Shield and it took a whole freaking day and 3 hours. So I uninstalled it and installed AVG and it was done in less than an hour.
8IronBob
07-14-2008, 07:48 AM
Yeah, Trend Micro would probably be the only one I'd touch now.
It's cheaper, does its job better, more proactive, and not as annoying.
Phayzon
07-18-2008, 08:17 AM
I stopped using McAfee in favor of AVG years ago, Ive since deciced to use avast! instead of AVG. I dont really know why (well for my 64bit system I know why, becasue AVG free isnt 64bit while avast is).
SniperZERO
07-18-2008, 10:21 AM
I agree, McAfee is just as bad as Symantec. I'm using NOD32 at the moment and have used it for years, works perfectly.
XTHX2
07-18-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm using Kaspersky and will keep using it. Had no problems since I got it. Not even a little. Thanks for the warning though :rolleyes:
Wamplet
07-18-2008, 12:49 PM
The corporate version of Mcafee seems fine.
Of course they don't have all the extra bloat of the firewall and other stuff you don't need, like backup crap.
Shadow Master
07-18-2008, 12:54 PM
It is ironic that free software works better than expensive stuff like McAffee -- fortunately I managed to make my mother realise this before it was too late ;)
McAffee? What is that?
Antivirus? I haven't used an antivirus for ages...
IwantMORE
07-18-2008, 01:00 PM
The corporate version of Mcafee seems fine.
Yep we use it in the office too. But then again it's configured for our network and computer needs in a securely locked down VPN. Then rubbish you get 'free' with off the shelf PC's don't seem to be as good...
I've not tried the Mac version though ;)
Hudson
07-18-2008, 02:37 PM
AVG baby :cool:
Wamplet
07-18-2008, 05:27 PM
Yep we use it in the office too. But then again it's configured for our network and computer needs in a securely locked down VPN. Then rubbish you get 'free' with off the shelf PC's don't seem to be as good...
I've not tried the Mac version though ;)
Yeap, there is a big difference between corporate and retail versions.
People have brought computers they just bought from a store up to work for me to set up remote work connections on and fortunately, we have home licenses for Mcafee enterprise and can wipe out the trial norton or mcafee on their computer and put the good one on.
Still, I'd feel better/safer buying a retail product than using one of the free ones.
When someone brings a personal computer in, they always have 6 or 7 "antispyware programs" and AVG or one of the other free programs on it.
If you downoad pr0n all day and visit farm animal sites, it's gonna get on your computer one way or another, though. :o
Hudson
07-19-2008, 12:40 PM
Running Spybot S&D, Adaware, Spywareblaster and AVG I never have any issues. It's a great combination and is very light on resources.
Wamplet
07-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Those are the good ones.
I'm talking about the no-name kinds that you can't tell if it's a legitimate one or not. :o
Well you can with a quick check, but these people install everything that's free.
And besides, I know you don't download farm pr0n. \o
Karthik
07-23-2008, 04:07 AM
I used PC-Cillin 2007. Very effective. Too effective in fact. Each time I run a program(Games mostly) it warns me it's a virus and I have to manually click 'Yes' to allow it to run. It's good against those autorun pen drive viruses. Also you need a lot of RAM to run it. My laptop has about 1GB of RAM. So those with 512 and below AVG is your best bet.
I've since changed to AVG cause I didn't renew my license this year. As for Kaspersky, now that is the mother load of anti virus. The most uber and effective antivirus/spyware software IMHO. Expensive but effective. Good for people who visit adult sites daily. :)
Blade Nightflame
07-25-2008, 11:47 AM
Avast ftw!
Sorry, but.. *Ahem*
VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED.
Dave-ros
07-25-2008, 11:52 AM
You can turn that annoying message off ;)
Just wish I could stop Comodo from asking me if I want to allow Windows Update to do its thing. IT'S A WINDOWS COMPONENT, MORON!!!!! I even tell it so, and it still queries me :doh:
Steve
07-25-2008, 04:00 PM
VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED.
Yeah, that's not so fun when you have your volume up high :eek:
8IronBob
07-25-2008, 04:10 PM
I've been more of a Norton fan than a McAfee user, and even Norton's a bit on the passive side, as far as what it can do for you. I've even given Windows One Live Care a chance, and still think that's a 50/50 suite at best. However, I do believe that Trend Micro might be the best as far as commercial internet security suites, but you're right, going freeware and open-source may be the only sane way to keep the bad stuff off your back anymore.
wayskobfssae
07-25-2008, 07:20 PM
It is ironic that free software works better than expensive stuff like McAffee -- fortunately I managed to make my mother realise this before it was too late ;)
Irony, 10 years ago, McAfee was top notch, and at the time was free if I'm not mistaken. And then one day, around '97 I think, it all just went to crap.
And while everyone's shouting out favorites, I've been using Panda ever since I dumped McAfee.
Scotty
07-25-2008, 08:43 PM
I used Norton for a long stretch, but kept having problems with the firewall: It would sometimes take a minute or two to prompt that a program wanted outbound access, and by then, the program in question had often hung. :mad:
Since then, I've been using the version of McAfee that Comcast licenses for its users, and I've never had a problem with it. It doesn't appear to be a corporate/enterprise version, but it seems to work really well, and I've never had it crash.
The only place I had a problem was with email, but then again, I always had problems with Norton and email. I generally disable email scanning now, as it seems to cause nothing but problems (mail client crashes, mail server timeouts, etc) and the virus will get nailed the second it hits memory, Temp Files, etc. anyways.
LeadBullet
07-25-2008, 08:54 PM
I have similar issues with AVG once when it was recommended to me. It found a few zip\rar files on my drive that had been infected with some virus. Basically all it did was add a few extra files to the compressed files which were various randomly named exe files and all the other original files seemed completely fine.
The program said it was unable to remove them, even though if I opened up the compressed files in winrar I was able to manually delete them easily. That just isn't a good option when you have several files.
I've never been satisfied with an anti-virus program because they all want to run constant processes which are bloated and hurt performance worse than adware, and most of the time I've ever found shit it tells me it can't automate actions that I'm able to manually do myself.
alexgk
07-26-2008, 01:37 AM
Antivir rules 'em all!
Chimera
07-26-2008, 03:10 AM
Sorry, but.. *Ahem*
VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED.
lol yeah, first thing I do after installing Avast is disable the sounds :)
Little Conqueror
08-01-2008, 01:15 AM
See, I've not had problems with McAfee. Symantec, on the other hand, has been a million times worse.
Taril
08-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Yea. I will never use a McAfee product ever again.
I use Eset NOD32. Best antivirus I've ever used.
Ill never use anything else.
LeadBullet
08-02-2008, 07:19 PM
Are there any AV projects like Mozilla which are pretty decently quick on updates and run off of donations?
8IronBob
08-02-2008, 08:23 PM
Actually, upon looking at my cable provider's security suite, it seems like they teamed up with McAfee for their bundle, so I basically get McAfee for free through them, which may be pretty good, since that's $40 - $50 back in my pocket, but then again, I'm just curious as to why they would team up with them as opposed to something far superior? Guess that's what your cable companies want for you anymore...
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