Deus Ex

[Blade Runner 3]

Anybody play the games in this series? You could pretty much choose your own style in the first game.

DX 1 was cool but IW was a few steps above mediocre. And stealth doesn't even work in IW.

I hear there's another game in the works.

[Steve]

Oh **** yes Deus Ex! :love: I've said it so many times around here: Best game I've ever played. Ever :D
Here's a vid of mine:
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvClV94Zl8&feature=related
;)

IW? I'd rather not go there. I'm not looking forward to the 3rd game due to the 2nd. If they don't know what they did wrong with the 2nd then they have no chance with the 3rd.

[Phait]

I can't get over the stiff death animations when you shoot someone and just haven't given it a fair go.

[vivftp]

Deus Ex was a masterpiece. I've completed that game 68 times and never really get tired of it.

After the whole IW thing, I wanted the Deus Ex franchise to flourish again so much that I actually tried begging George to purchase the whole thing and make the next Deus Ex game :D ... Unfortunately he shot down that idea :(

[Steve]

I can't get over the stiff death animations when you shoot someone and just haven't given it a fair go.

Your loss! :D

[NutWrench]

Your loss! :D

Indeed. Deus Ex is as close to perfect a game that I've ever played. I played it endlessly when it came out. I'm really looking forward to Deus Ex 3. :)

The story in Invisible War is not too bad but dumbing it down for consoles was a huge mistake.

[Kennerado]

hehe Do Sex

[leilei]

I can't get over the stiff death animations when you shoot someone and just haven't given it a fair go.

yeah i mean, wtf, its not like in dx:iw when you shoot someone they are like a thrown puppet, WTF THAT'S NOT AS REAL AS THAT

[Telee]

yeah i mean, wtf, its not like in dx:iw when you shoot someone they are like a thrown puppet, WTF THAT'S NOT AS REAL AS THAT

I loved the ragdoll effects on IW. I remember killing some innocent WTO guy and trying to stuff his corpse into a locker... I almost had it, was bashing the guys arm with the locker door trying to get it in when I heard a scream behind me and some woman ran off.

Doubt it would have worked anyway, even if I got him in :( :p

[Damien_Azreal]

Invisible War had a lot of good things going for it, but sadly it was unpolished and just felt rushed.

A bad engine, bad lighting code... the lack of a true skill system and smaller levels (due to engine constraints) hurt it. Story was good and solid, characters were actually pretty good and some were very interesting.

But stupid ideas (unified ammo) really killed it. I hope DX3 is closer to the first game than the second.

[Aegeri]

Invisible War had a lot of good things going for it, but sadly it was unpolished and just felt rushed.

A bad engine, bad lighting code... the lack of a true skill system and smaller levels (due to engine constraints) hurt it. Story was good and solid, characters were actually pretty good and some were very interesting.

But stupid ideas (unified ammo) really killed it. I hope DX3 is closer to the first game than the second.

Don't forget the fact you can kill every single character in the game and by the end of it they are still all begging for your help, despite that fact you're the most dangerous thing on two legs (not to mention a pure psycho).

Edit: If you've never done so before, push a flaming barrel next to an NPC. Hilarity ensues within 10 seconds or so or your money back.

[razgriz]

Love Deus Ex. So complex and intelligently designed. Great music, audio, and possibilities.

I don't think we'll get a game this intelligently designed in the near future.

[leilei]

Edit: If you've never done so before, push a flaming barrel next to an NPC. Hilarity ensues within 10 seconds or so or your money back.

or even better, shoot a scientist with a silenced pistol point blank range in front of their face. They wonder where the shot came from and go run around searching for the perpretrator!

[Aegeri]

Hmm, I think the spontaneous human combustion wins myself :P

[Water12356]

Of course we played Dues Ex. Its brilliant. :p

[Destructor]

Both Deus Ex and Deus Ex: Invisible War are awesome games. I love how Invisible War is more simplified over the original, I think it's close to perfect.

[Malgon]

I love Deus Ex, although I haven't played it in a few years. :o

[Klaus Kinski]

Dues Ex is easily one of the best and deepest first person perspective games. I remember how hyped I was when they announced the second and how disappointed I was after playing it. Although, throwing someone in the air and keep him/her there by repeatedly shooting at the falling corpse was always great fun.

[Malgon]

Yeah, I remember being hyped for IW and being disappointed as well. It's `good elements' were mediocre at best.

[Daedolon]

I'd replay it if I just could find my CD. I have the big box around but I lost the jewelcase when I moved. That's what you get for having jewelcases near your computer when you play the game, instead safely hidden away in the closet.

[Hudson]

Deus Ex is one of the greatest games ever made :love:

[Sang]

Ah yes, Deus Ex. Boring, crappy game.

;)

[slapnutz]

Wasnt there a Hi Res Texture project for DX1?

Also, what happen to that DX conversion into Unreal Engine or something. I think it was called Deus Ex Reloaded???

[Hudson]

http://offtopicproductions.com/hdtp/?page_id=3
http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-hdtp/

[Sang]

Also, what happen to that DX conversion into Unreal Engine or something. I think it was called Deus Ex Reloaded???

Deus Ex itself was built with the Unreal Engine so ;)

But I do remember a Deus Ex remake mod for UT2k4.

[slapnutz]

Deus Ex itself was built with the Unreal Engine so ;)

But I do remember a Deus Ex remake mod for UT2k4.

Yeah, thats it I think! It was something to do with the fact that they were not just doing a Hi-res version but were tweaking the Animation, A.I and some code to take advantage of the UT2k3 upated stuff. Some screenshots looked pretty cool. I wonder what happened to it. :confused:

EDIT: Found it:)
http://dxr.deusexgaming.com/

[evanazzo]

I completed the first mission then after that I got my new computer and I don't know if my save data is still intact. I have to reinstall this.

[The Stinger]

I've tried it numerous times, the last time I installed my GOTY version, installed a patch and skipped the tutorial, tried to change the weapon and it would let me a few time, but after that it just kept holding 1 weapon and couldn't change it. :doh:
So I've given up on playing it.

[8IronBob]

Mleh, I would've said that Valve or Monolith should've gotten the rights to develop DX3, imo. Those would've been the two best FPS developers around to actually do something that would really give a good rep to the franchise.

[X-Vector]

Despite the fact that neither of these two companies have ever developed a Deus Ex style game?

[Sang]

I dunno - Monolith did NOLF.. It's close, maybe. ;)

But I wouldn't let Monolith or Valve handle it anyway. We need some new developers to make stuff like that.

[Damien_Azreal]

Despite the fact that neither of these two companies have ever developed a Deus Ex style game?

TRON 2.0 has a great stats and program (similar to augs) system the enhances your abilities. But, I'm glad Lith is not doing it... gives them more time to pursue their own IPs.

I'm not letting myself get hyped for DX3 just yet, need a lot more info/media first.

[crunchy superman]

Hopefully, given that they now have examples of both what DeusEx should and shouldn't be, maybe they'll learn. I still have my doubts, but you never know.

[jimBoss]

Deus Ex: genius.
Deus Ex 2: not so much :p

I hope #3 offers more real choice than the sequel did.

[Sayantan]

Do I need to comment about it when it's already so obvious? ;)

[Wamplet]

It was a great game.

[Thief]

Just chiming in to say Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made and is in my top 3 games of all time.

[Telee]

I've played through it a dozen times and it's still just as amazing as it was on my first go.

[Aegeri]

Every time I play it I still find something new or random I never found before like

that little crawl space in Alex's office. Took me almost 3 years and I found it by complete accident. Never realised it was there and I was like, wtf?

[fast-1]

I got the PS2 version and PC version and Deus Ex Invisible War which is a bad port to PC might sell it. You need a good enough PC to play it without slow down.

Mods ?

The Cassandra Project

http://downloads.cnet.co.uk/0,39100207,39095464s,00.htm :dopefish:


HotelCarone ;)

http://www.carone1.de/HotelCarone/HCDownload.htm

http://www.offtopicproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1042

I'm having problems installing the Deus Ex SDK ? :(

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/357/Deus+Ex+SDK+v1.112f

[YicklePigeon]

I agree with everyone on the subject of how great Deus Ex (the original is), as for Deus Ex: Invisible War it should have just been called Invisible War and used different characters or something, as it [b]is[/i] in the same spirit as the original but also hampered by what the original achieved.

Oh and also eliminating the sub-title in the process...

With regards,

Yickle.

[Yenji]

I just finished replaying Deux Ex a couple of days ago. Deus ex is everything a game should be :)

I haven't played the second one yet :o

I actually like the console version of Deus Ex better though. When I played the PC version I always hated writing stuff down and the limited inventory. The Playstation 2 version inputs codes and passwords for you automatically and allows you to hold many more items

[8IronBob]

Tsst... Yeah, IW was even worse when it came to trying to remember things. At least other games like Doom 3 made it easy to remember codes and passwords, since you could just pull up your PDA, go to the message that you most recently added, then use the number from there, and you'll have your access. Just wish that DX IW would've been that easy.

[Hudson]

Jesus, Project Snowblind was a better sequel to Deus Ex than Invisible War..

[Steve]

that little crawl space in Alex's office. Took me almost 3 years and I found it by complete accident. Never realised it was there and I was like, wtf?
WTF indeed... I don't even know what you're talking about :o :o :o I've played the game over 40 times. I'm going to check it out.

[Thief]

Jesus, Project Snowblind was a better sequel to Deus Ex than Invisible War..

Um, I wouldn't go that far. I thought Project Snowblind was quite terrible. IW can still be called a FPS/RPG hybrid (although nerfed), which is the basis of the Deus Ex world, while Project Snowblind is just a bad shooter with countless enemies, some augs and health droids.

As always, of course, this is just my opinion.

[vivftp]

Heh, I think I can safely say that I've found everything there is to find in Deus Ex by this point. Even after playing the game 40 - 50 times, I was still finding little things here and there.


So what's everyones favorite gameplay style? For me, the vast majority of my plays have been as a silent assassin moving in the darkness, picking off enemies without alerting any of their comrades and when I eventually leave an area, there isn't a single enemy standing.

I put my skill points more towards pistol and rifle skills as well as computers. Augs, I usually go with speed, see through walls, spy drone, regeneration, swimming, cloak and radar transparency as the main ones I'd use. Weapons, I usually carry sniper rifle, stealth pistol, mini crossbow, LAMs, gas grenades, EMPs, scramble grenades, flares, medkits (not so much in later levels due to the regeneration aug), biocells, flares and if I feel like it, the assault rifle for its HE ammo.


Ahh... so many ways to play Deus Ex... one of my favorite runthroughs had to be playing it without killing anyone at all. The hardest part was getting past Anna to escape UNATCO HQ... that took a few hours to get it just right. :D

[jimBoss]

I reckon the funnest way is to play stealthily... it doesn't really feel right to run and gun :p
And I should mention that I love the first mission, Liberty Island, to bits. So many ways to play it, and so many little things you can do differently.

I dunno if it needs spoiler tags... but

- killing the terrorist leader or not
- going in through the base of the statue or the top
- giving Gunter your gun or letting him go
- grab the password from the mole dude
- the choice of weapons at the start
- characters recognize if you kill everyone, or be more pacifist
- removing all the gas grenades
- plus all the cool stuff in nooks and crannies- the mods behind the forklift, the sunken ship, etc, etc, etc.

[vivftp]

Heh, anyone else ever gone pigeon hunting with the GEP gun? TONS of fun! I have a tiny video of that on Youtube :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P__-P9Jo00

[Steve]

I reckon the funnest way is to play stealthily... it doesn't really feel right to run and gun :p
And I should mention that I love the first mission, Liberty Island, to bits. So many ways to play it, and so many little things you can do differently.

I dunno if it needs spoiler tags... but

- killing the terrorist leader or not
- going in through the base of the statue or the top
- giving Gunter your gun or letting him go
- grab the password from the mole dude
- the choice of weapons at the start
- characters recognize if you kill everyone, or be more pacifist
- removing all the gas grenades
- plus all the cool stuff in nooks and crannies- the mods behind the forklift, the sunken ship, etc, etc, etc.

After talking\killing the terrorist leader, kill the UNATCO soldier coming up the stairs... Free assault rifle! Manderly will have something to say about it, too ;)

Heh, anyone else ever gone pigeon hunting with the GEP gun? TONS of fun! I have a tiny video of that on Youtube :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P__-P9Jo00





Check this out. Seriously. :eek:
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-a_xI7oww&NR=1
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=ioiOAdFJKYE&watch_response

My body hurts from laughing too much :D

[Water12356]

omg lol!! :D

[jimBoss]

lol :p

I thought it was cool how you could wander into the chick's toilets in the UNATCO base and talk to the chick in there, and afterwards Manderley tells you off. And then a little later, the chick and her bf (I assume) are sitting on the couch, and they give you crap about it.

[Steve]

the chick and her bf (I assume) are sitting on the couch, and they give you crap about it.

I remember that. I put a bunch of boxes and plants on their heads and around them. Bastards :tinyted:

[Malgon]

I reckon both times I played, I leaned heavily on the stealthy approach, so I tended to use the crossbow a fair amount. I do remember modding the hell out of the silenced pistol on the first go, and the second playthrough I did it to the sniper rifle instead. I can't remember all the skills and augs, but I do remember a lot of the other elements in the game. When I play it again I might go through with the brute force approach instead. ;)

[Destructor]

Tsst... Yeah, IW was even worse when it came to trying to remember things. At least other games like Doom 3 made it easy to remember codes and passwords, since you could just pull up your PDA, go to the message that you most recently added, then use the number from there, and you'll have your access. Just wish that DX IW would've been that easy.

It was that easy, wasn't it? I don't recall having to write down numbers or anything. :confused:

[Yenji]

I found the crawl space in Alex's office the first time I played the game though :)

When I play I take my time and search everything so I'd like to think that I've found everything, but I doubt it. One day I'll need to print off a walk through or something and explore everything.

Too bad the game doesn't contain a counter for all the secrets you can find :p

[Steve]

I found the crawl space in Alex's office the first time I played the game though :)

When I play I take my time and search everything so I'd like to think that I've found everything, but I doubt it. One day I'll need to print off a walk through or something and explore everything.

Too bad the game doesn't contain a counter for all the secrets you can find :p

You can always open the levels up in unrealED. I've found a few codes that way :D :eek :D

[Sang]

Crawlspace in Alex' office? I've heard about a "false floor" in his office but I could never find it :( WHERE IS IT

[KaraBulut]

After talking\killing the terrorist leader, kill the UNATCO soldier coming up the stairs... Free assault rifle! Manderly will have something to say about it, too ;)







Check this out. Seriously. :eek:
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-a_xI7oww&NR=1
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=ioiOAdFJKYE&watch_response

My body hurts from laughing too much :D
Is that Malkavian mod like the Malkavian's in Vampire Bloodlines ? Or just something else ?

[Steve]

Crawlspace in Alex' office? I've heard about a "false floor" in his office but I could never find it :( WHERE IS IT

Still can't find it :(

edit:
I had to open unrealEd to find it :o I can't believe I missed it all these years. For shame :(
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3731/wtfmw3.th.jpg (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtfmw3.jpg)

[vivftp]

Shannon (the chick in the washroom) tells you about the false floor later in the game.

[Sang]

Yeah but she doesn't actually show you where it is, hence me asking.

[beam]

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-a_xI7oww&NR=1

Nice vid, whats the song that starts 00:30? Does it have a name or is it in the soundtrack?

[Steve]

You mean the conversation music? It has always been in the game

[ZaphodB]

I got Deus Ex GOTY from hitpoints on gamespy. IW is available (I have the points I could spend on it) but the forum seems split whether it's good or not. Never did finish the original, think I got about halfway through the game and just got frustrated with it. HELP!!! Should I get it or leave it alone? Should I try to finish the original, is it worth it?

[SniperZERO]

Should I try to finish the original, is it worth it?
Hell yes.

[Sang]

IW is okay but at the same time it's really lame.

[Wamplet]

Ok, if i ever get finished with all of my games, I am going to replay Deus Ex again.

I've played through it about 2 or maybe 3 times.

[Yenji]

You can always open the levels up in unrealED. I've found a few codes that way :D :eek :D

I only own the PS2 version now ;) I also don't know how to use unrealED. The newest map editor I've used is Warcraft 3's. After that is BUILD ;)

It would be pretty cool to be able to see all the secrets though. My only compliant about the game is that eventually you HAVE to join the NSF. It would have been interesting to be able to undermine UNATCO and eventually become the evil top dog :p

[Phait]

Is there any mod that lets me have a perfect shot, or I can edit my stats? Can't find anything. It's the one thing keeping me from continuing this game. I just am not that patient. I can understand if it was an old school RPG.

[jimBoss]

If you upgrade your weapons skills- pistols for pistols, etc- you'll be more accurate. There's also weapon accuracy mods you can install (there's at least one in the first level, from memory), and there could be an aug that helps.

Fellow thread-posters, what's your favorite level/area/moment/ from the game?

I'm a huge fan of the first mission. So many ways to approach it.

[Wamplet]

I am trying to remember the game levels, as it's been a few years since i last played.

There was just so much to like about the game. :o

Since i can't remember a favourite level, i will just go with a "moment."

My favourite moments were when i would read the news and see them LYING about a situation, like framing me or just saying they had to put down a hostile group by force or something like that. Quite entertaining.

[Klaus Kinski]

For the perfect shot you need to upgrade your skills. A master with the rifle skill can dish out head shots with an modified assault rifles at 100% accuracy. You can snipe with it.
I think there was an accuracy upgrade in the underground garage like construction near the huge stacks of boxes right outside the statue's building. Another upgrade was, IIRC, in the sunken ship at the Dock the informant (Philbin?) is located.

My favourite levels would be Paris and Vandenberg. Lot's of Sniping opportunities. Oh, and wiping out the HK MJ12 base with poison gas is pricless too.

[NutWrench]

Another cool thing about master skill level with the rifle, is that you can use the sniper rifle to destroy cameras and turrets, instead of having to hack them.

[Dave-ros]

Damn, I have no time to replay this right now, with Stalker: Clear Sky and the remade version of The Witcher to contend with :tinyted:

/me waits for "Someone will reinstall Deus Ex after seeing this" macro :p

[Karthik]

I already have.....is MP fun anyway?

[Steve]

I already have.....is MP fun anyway?

Only with people you know. My father and I fire it up every now and then :)

[Tang Lung]

My favorite parts of the game were the Hong Kong levels. They had such an awesome atmosphere. And it was at that point in the game where **** starts hitting the fan and you're waking up to all the conspiracies. Deus Ex really is an amazing game.

*resists urge to reinstall*

[Sang]

My favourite level.. hmm, must be one of the Hell Kitchen levels.

[Nihilanth]

No idea which level I'd choose. I'm just too much of a fan boy for Deus Ex 1 to choose just one or two, I guess. :)

[aces-high]

Deus Ex is perhaps one of the best games ever created. My favourite level is Hells kitchen. Enjoyed the sequal too, not in the same league ofcourse.

[MeatWagon]

I loved Hong Kong the most, great atmosphere and locations.

[Reaper]

Deus Ex is perhaps one of the best games ever created. My favourite level is Hells kitchen. Enjoyed the sequal too, not in the same league ofcourse.
"Not in the same league" is a huge understatement.

Look, why can't people just come out and say it? Deus Ex IW was shite, it was the biggest turd ever, besides Big Rigs! It was lame, okay? It sucked. It licked. It tasted. Bad. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Point. Made?

Stop making it out to be something it isn't. It isn't and never was Deus Ex 2. End of story.

EDIT: okay I admit I was a little rough, but the point is there. I hate visiting other forums (I'm looking at you, Eidos Deus Ex 3 forums) and hearing "oh Deus Ex IW was so great! I love it to bits", etc.

[Rider]

Tried the game yesterday, I didn't really like it. Maybe in part because there is no autosave. I had 3 instances where I was doing fine... or should I say, perfectly, when all of a sudden... *BLAT BLAT* dead! Start over thank you very much... so I uninstalled the bastard!

Maybe I'll give it a fair shot later :p

[Dave-ros]

I have to admit, I've been spoiled by autosaves in recent games, and having to backtrack really sucks -- as Leisure Suit Larry would say, "save early, save often!" ;)

[Stense]

"Not in the same league" is a huge understatement.

Look, why can't people just come out and say it? Deus Ex IW was shite, it was the biggest turd ever, besides Big Rigs! It was lame, okay? It sucked. It licked. It tasted. Bad. It left a bad taste in my mouth. Point. Made?

Stop making it out to be something it isn't. It isn't and never was Deus Ex 2. End of story.

EDIT: okay I admit I was a little rough, but the point is there. I hate visiting other forums (I'm looking at you, Eidos Deus Ex 3 forums) and hearing "oh Deus Ex IW was so great! I love it to bits", etc.


And why can't people just come out and acknowledge that some people did like it? I don't think there are many who would try and say its better than the first game, but lots of people did enjoy it. It was Deus Ex 2. You happen to of not enjoyed it, but that doesn't make it suddenly stop being a sequal. Get over it.

[Klaus Kinski]

Yeah, but it's an awful sequel. Like the Hellraiser films after part 4.
I really tried to like it, tried hard, but it wasn't possible. They just ****up. Big time. I played through the entire game and in the end I was just glad it was over.

[Steve]

I tried so hard to like it I finished it three times. Still... can't... bring...self...to...like

[Phait]

I put in cheats to get all skills... I hate cheating, but I cannot for the life of me stand the 'wavy' gun aiming. Just shoot like a normal FPS ffs. I may actually be able to play through and finish this game now :o

[Steve]

I put in cheats to get all skills... I hate cheating, but I cannot for the life of me stand the 'wavy' gun aiming. Just shoot like a normal FPS ffs. I may actually be able to play through and finish this game now :o

Part of the fun of the game is upgrading those guns :tinyted:

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

I remember during the plane part, where you have to assassinate that guy (or choose not to). I went right up to the guy with my crosshair dead center on his forehead, I was struggling over what to do, so finally I shot...

and the bullet ended up about a foot from his head. :doh:

[8IronBob]

Wish I knew where my copy of Deus Ex was, I'd like to start mapping for that one, too (after all, it's the same engine behind UT2004, so I'm no stranger there). Might do some good mansion-based map with that one where you have to interact with the residents there, and rid yourself of security guards around the house, so to speak. :D

[Reaper]

Wish I knew where my copy of Deus Ex was, I'd like to start mapping for that one, too (after all, it's the same engine behind UT2004, so I'm no stranger there). Might do some good mansion-based map with that one where you have to interact with the residents there, and rid yourself of security guards around the house, so to speak. :D
Dude. You should seriously fact check your statements. Deus Ex doesn't use the same engine as UT2k4. It's an offshoot of UE1 (ie. pre-Unreal Warfare tech -- Unreal 2 and up). ;)

[peoplessi]

I put in cheats to get all skills... I hate cheating, but I cannot for the life of me stand the 'wavy' gun aiming. Just shoot like a normal FPS ffs. I may actually be able to play through and finish this game now :o

Part of the fun of the game is upgrading those guns :tinyted:

For me, the combat was the most akward thing in the game. They should've handled that differently, the wavy aim is irritating, and the combat is the weakest side of Deus Ex. I just didn't let that bother me after the story started rolling.

[Nihilanth]

I don't know, I found the "wavy aim" pretty cool. I mean, you can master it so it's perfect and not wavy at all but I remember trying and practising to snipe enemies with shaking aim as something challanging and nice in some way.

[Phait]

I actually don't mind wavy/more realistic sniping but it was just awful in Deus Ex. COD 2 did it better (then again, that was a tad more grounded in realism)

[YicklePigeon]

Let me guess, you actually used the scope on the sniper rifle? Here's a better thing to do until you're rated in-game as being a master (or cheating for that matter! Tsk tsk tsk! :P )...simply don't use the scope.

If you just let the crosshairs zero in on the target without using a scope (just as you would on a standard unmodified pistol), and move the mouse very carefully you'll be just fine and your target won't be. :D

Besides, you're never really that far from your intended target and with most of us no doubt playing Deus Ex in 1024x768 and greater on very big monitors, you should be able to determine an enemy's head :)

I just wish I still had my old test/experimental maps I made for Deus Ex. :(

Regards,

Yickle.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Of course it's :mryuck:, it's Bloodlines WITHOUT vampires! How could that be good?

Controls are crap. I had to remap them. WTF is up with that? F12 for light!?!?! WTF!? :mryuck::mryuck::mryuck::mryuck:

[Sang]

yeah and you quicksave using plus and quickload using slash I mean wtf is up with that??? terrible terrible game

[ZuljinRaynor]

yeah and you quicksave using plus and quickload using slash I mean wtf is up with that??? terrible terrible game

It's more than that. This game is like Halo to me in hype from everyone and it just fails on every level so far. :mryuck:

[Damien_Azreal]

Tried Deus Ex. So far :mryuck:... let's hope it gets better cause this game was so hyped up for me. :mad:

Blasphemer. ;)

[ZuljinRaynor]

Blasphemer. ;)

This game is like Halo to me. Honestly.

[Damien_Azreal]

:eek:

[NutWrench]

This game is like Halo to me. Honestly.

How far along are you?

[evanazzo]

Steve is going to kills you

[ZuljinRaynor]

:eek:

I mean in hype vs actuallity. Not in gameplay. :p

[Steve]

This game is like Halo to me. Honestly.

You are dead to me.

Steve is going to kills you
RIP AND TEAR!

[Damien_Azreal]

I mean in hype vs actuallity. Not in gameplay. :p

Main difference... Deus Ex deserves it's hype and praise. ;)

[ZuljinRaynor]

You are dead to me.

Well you already were dead to me when you refused to play Vampire: Bloodlines.

Main difference... Deus Ex deserves it's hype and praise. ;)

Sadly, too overhyped for me. :( It's fallen flat on it's face for me. I'll give it more of a shot, but not expecting much.

[Steve]

Well you already were dead to me when you refused to play Vampire: Bloodlines.



Sadly, too overhyped for me. :( It's fallen flat on it's face for me. I'll give it more of a shot, but not expecting much.

I hated it the first time I played it, too. No... REALLY HATED IT. Just how far along are you? I bet only the first level :p

[Damien_Azreal]

The game really gets interesting at about five missions in.

[Lethe]

Well you already were dead to me when you refused to play Vampire: Bloodlines.
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Vampire: Bloodlines is a great game that tried hard to be Deus Ex. It fails short of it, but it is still a great game. As far as Deus Ex go, first few levels tend to turn off lots of people, try playing more.

[Travis]

i should really play deus ex again, i didn't get too far into it.

[someguy2435]

it really seems to be a love or hate thing with this game... :love:

[BloodWolf806]

The original Deus Ex remains the single greatest game I've ever played....Followed very closley by Duke Nukem 3D.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I have never enjoyed a game that doesn't grab me from the start. Even if it gets better later on it still feels like a chore.

I'm trying to think of games that start slow (in my view of slow, something like Half-Life or Doom 3's intros aren't slow for me) and later get good that have grabbed me and I can't think of any.

[crunchy superman]

I have never enjoyed a game that doesn't grab me from the start. Even if it gets better later on it still feels like a chore.


I'm usually the same way. I didn't care for DeusEx at all when I first played it. I set it aside for almost a year before, for some reason, I picked it back up and went on into it a bit further. Glad I did, as it turned out to be the best game I've ever played.

Still, to each his own - there are indeed some who don't like it.

[John]

I have never enjoyed a game that doesn't grab me from the start. Even if it gets better later on it still feels like a chore.

I'm trying to think of games that start slow (in my view of slow, something like Half-Life or Doom 3's intros aren't slow for me) and later get good that have grabbed me and I can't think of any.

You still didn't answer. :p How far have you gotten? Because saying "This game is like Halo to me" doesn't make any sense, other than the "hype" factor, but like D_A said, this game diserves it's praise. Honestly, one of the best games ever designed.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I don't care. I don't like it. Obviously this is one of those elitest games, same as if you go on a 360 forum and say Halo or Gears sucks. They'll say the same thing you guys claim, that those games deserve the praise they got. Or if you go to a PS3 place and say MGS is garbage. Or if you proclaim that Mario is crap.

[Lethe]

I don't care. I don't like it. Obviously this is one of those elitest games,.

No, it is not. You're just stubbornly convincing yourself in something which is not true at all.

If you didn't like the first level it is not a great measure for the rest of the game. Generalisation that you can judge every game by its begining is simply plain wrong. Deus Ex is perfect example of that. Person who didn't played far from first levels don't actually know nothing about story, twists, intrigue and general feeling about this game. Forming opinion about this game and abandoning it solely cose its beggining seems infinitely ignorant to us who played and experienced the whole thing.

Comparision with Halo is just wrong. On all levels.

[axion]

No matter where you go and say "x sucks" people will dispute with you if you haven't played the game... Like everyone is saying, stick with it and you will most likely come to love it. Unless you dislike good stories, and innovative gameplay, and other cool stuff, then you still might not like it. I should note that I don't believe your opinion is wrong, just that it may not be well formed from having only played so little of the game.

[Steve]

Play the game properly, Zulie :p You know, pass the first level :D

[Sayantan]

I hear some guys here recently said Deus Ex is hyped :insomnia:

*/takes out the Doom shotgun and reloads it.

Edit: Moreover the game is like a "good trip" which takes you high in a slow exponential manner unlike other games. And the balance in this very feature is what makes this one of the best game till date.

Edit2: Another point is that if you're ever playing the 6th mission, that IS IT. You can't leave the game after that unless and until you finish it. Trust me on that. ;)

[thefly]

I don't care. I don't like it. Obviously this is one of those elitest games, same as if you go on a 360 forum and say Halo or Gears sucks. They'll say the same thing you guys claim, that those games deserve the praise they got. Or if you go to a PS3 place and say MGS is garbage. Or if you proclaim that Mario is crap.

The 3DR boards are a reliable place of what games are good and which are not, regardless of the genre, date, company, or system. So when someone gets beat down regarding a specific game here, there is a reason.

When Deus Ex, a game that is pretty much loved to death here, gets the "gee this ain't really that good treatment," it is a shock to the system. Truly, it baffles me for someone not to like Deus Ex. Not because my taste in games is super refined, but there is so much to like in that game as a true entertainment experience, it is hard to fathom what is not to be liked.

In conslusion, ZuljinRaynor, do this: :doh:

;)

[YicklePigeon]

I couldn't leave the game after the second mission...totally sucked in this spy/conspiracy adventure story :D

My favourite!

With regards,

Yickle!

[ZaphodB]

I hear some guys here recently said Deus Ex is hyped :insomnia:

*/takes out the Doom shotgun and reloads it.

Edit: Moreover the game is like a "good trip" which takes you high in a slow exponential manner unlike other games. And the balance in this very feature is what makes this one of the best game till date.

Edit2: Another point is that if you're ever playing the 6th mission, that IS IT. You can't leave the game after that unless and until you finish it. Trust me on that. ;)

I dunno. I quit when you got stuck fighting those ED-209 like things when you HAVE NO WEAPONS. I quit there, haven't tried to replay it or finish it since. At that point the game became for me "this sucks". Was enjoying it before that point.

[John]

Is that

After you get captured by the MJ12 and wake up in a holding cell? There is a room with all of your weapons, including a plasma gauge and such to take out the robots.

[Sang]

I dunno. I quit when you got stuck fighting those ED-209 like things when you HAVE NO WEAPONS. I quit there, haven't tried to replay it or finish it since. At that point the game became for me "this sucks". Was enjoying it before that point.

When there are bots, there's always a workaround to get past them.

[NutWrench]

I couldn't leave the game after the second mission...totally sucked in this spy/conspiracy adventure story :D

My favourite!

With regards,

Yickle!

Same here. The Deus Ex demo originally ended at the end of the first level, at the cutscene where the boat takes you to Battery Park. After playing that level, I remember thinking, "Meh. it's ok. Maybe I'll wait until the price comes down a bit."

Then, Ion released the second level as a huge patch to the original demo. When I got to the end of THAT level, I was totally hooked. The story really starts to grab you at that point.

[Steve]

Come on guys, if he doesn't like the game that's cool :)



Gaming. Serious business :D ;)

[ZuljinRaynor]

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2493/motivator55690065dcda23ry3.jpg

You know, originally I was gonna say why I don't like it, but that would be a waste of my time since I've stumbled upon DeusExCodex obviously. Deal with it guys. It's probably the same kind of ridicule I'll get for saying I like FOT and FO3 more than FO1 and FO2.

I go around saying X-Com is the best game ever, and X-Com does have many followers who would say the same, but do I go flaming you guys cause you like other games better? If I ever compare it to your favorite game, I do it jokingly and nonseriously.

For anyone who's willing to know why I don't like it, it boils down to the look and feel. I do not like cyberpunk. I do not like the feel of the game either. These are two turn offs right there. If the game feels strange for me, then it will not grow on me and I will not enjoy it.

I wish I never gave this game a shot since apparantly you have to like this game or something is wrong with you. Well, fine. I rather have problems than play this game.

Seriously... it's YOU guys who have to problem. It's as if I killed your first born.

[Steve]

it's as if i killed your first born.

rofl :D

[The Stinger]

Zulji, your not the only one. I tried numerous times to play this game, but maybe it's not
my kind of thing. Even worse the last time I tried to play it, it just ****** up on me and didn't let me change weapons. :doh:

[alexgk]

Seriously... it's YOU guys who have to problem. It's as if I killed your first born.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=209&pictureid=2327

[Phait]

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1673/pandadanceqj1.gif

[Dave-ros]

I liked Deus Ex when I played it, but I haven't played it in ages. I'm sure I'll get around to replaying eventually... maybe about the time that hi-res pack comes out properly ;)

[The Stinger]

I liked Deus Ex when I played it, but I haven't played it in ages. I'm sure I'll get around to replaying eventually... maybe about the time that hi-res pack comes out properly ;)

I thought that just stopped being in the make.

[Thief]

It's still around, but I can count the amount of news updates they make in a year on one hand.

[Damien_Azreal]

You know, originally I was gonna say why I don't like it, but that would be a waste of my time since I've stumbled upon DeusExCodex obviously. Deal with it guys. It's probably the same kind of ridicule I'll get for saying I like FOT and FO3 more than FO1 and FO2.

I go around saying X-Com is the best game ever, and X-Com does have many followers who would say the same, but do I go flaming you guys cause you like other games better? If I ever compare it to your favorite game, I do it jokingly and nonseriously.

For anyone who's willing to know why I don't like it, it boils down to the look and feel. I do not like cyberpunk. I do not like the feel of the game either. These are two turn offs right there. If the game feels strange for me, then it will not grow on me and I will not enjoy it.

I wish I never gave this game a shot since apparantly you have to like this game or something is wrong with you. Well, fine. I rather have problems than play this game.

Seriously... it's YOU guys who have to problem. It's as if I killed your first born.

Calm down man. :) Most of us were just messing with you, as it's uncommon to find someone who doesn't like it. For the majority of us, we were just having fun with you (or at least I was).

We don't all have to like the same thing.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Calm down man. :) Most of us were just messing with you, as it's uncommon to find someone who doesn't like it. For the majority of us, we were just having fun with you (or at least I was).

We don't all have to like the same thing.

Oh I know you were. ;)

[Damien_Azreal]

Awesome. :)

[vivftp]

Ahh Deus Ex...

To date I've completed the game 69 times :D

It's just so much frickin' fun!

[Echo Black]

Deus Ex is definitely among my top 5 best games ever. Not shooters or RPGs - Games.

[Kalki]

For anyone who's willing to know why I don't like it, it boils down to the look and feel. I do not like cyberpunk.
I get that. I never really got into Thief, System Shock 2 and probably won't bother with Left 4 Dead either. I do not like zombies.

[Steve]

I do not like zombies.

Your moderator status should be revoked. REVOKED.

:ted:

[Ironside]

Deus Ex was total awesome when it came out but trying to get into it now would be a bit hard considering how dated it is.

[Phait]

Yeah theres like no death animations, like you're killing pop up targets.

[Kalki]

Your moderator status should be revoked. REVOKED.

:ted:

:ted:

[TBZ]

text and stuff

It's alright :love:

Hey, want to come over to my place, and we can talk about how I don't like Wolf3D, Doom, Quake 1/2, RtCW, and Half-Life?

[Lethe]

For anyone who's willing to know why I don't like it, it boils down to the look and feel. I do not like cyberpunk. I do not like the feel of the game either. These are two turn offs right there. If the game feels strange for me, then it will not grow on me and I will not enjoy it.



Well, you could've said that in the beginning. You get such reactions from people for trolling the thread. Comparision with Halo, saying that Halo is elitist, and that Deus Ex was overhyped just screamed with the same type of uninformness and ignorance for which you and the rest of your clan use to bash a "certain guy" in Hl2 and Bioshock threads.

[Echo Black]

(...) and the rest of your clan use to bash a "certain guy" in Hl2 and Bioshock threads.

I hope you don't mean Blue Lightning, 'cause the heat he gets is more than deserved. The man has a reputation in more than one forum for his, er, "difficulties".

Anyways, there's no point into trying to get into Deus Ex if one cannot stand cyberpunk. Though I find it a somewhat silly reason, as the game looks like a regular "futuristic" shooter. The plot deals with transhumanism before it tries to pay homage to cyberpunk, and in several areas it differs greatly from the classic definition of the word (of course, in most it matches perfectly). I usually care for the gameplay before I do about the setting, but that's just me.

[TBZ]

Well, you could've said that in the beginning. You get such reactions from people for trolling the thread.

Actually, he said he didn't like it in the Last Game Played thread, but it got moved into here later. So he didn't start out trolling in the Deus Ex thread.

[GoodAndyBadPizza]

You can't go into a game pre-conditioned to wanting it to be like something you're already familiar w/& in luv with. Nor to go in mainly to judge it. In the right, neutral mind frame going in to just play, really take the time & enjoy it...I think most will luv Deus Ex, both of them.

Zul, may be just so accustomed to something very different that she/he? is just not acclimatized to it at all. Things she/he's used to maybe not there, etc. & turned off by something different.

Deus Ex this last recent 2nd playing of it, it was much easier it seemed! 1st time seemed pretty hard, scary...those MJ-12 mech type hunters, etc.

I still agree it's probably the best, most quality filled out video game to date, at least that I'm familiar with. It actually has a very involved & believeable story, very mind-philosophically engaging. Very fun upgrades & special type characters. And alot of different ways to play it.
_____________
I'd like to play System Shock 2 again but gave it to someone else & they've moved.

[peoplessi]

Deus Ex doesn't work if you are all against that conspiracy & cyberpunk feel. I didn't like BioShock, but that's again just me.

[Travis]

i find the style of deus ex to be a little lame looking but i do like conspiracies in games. i've started playing it again but i can tell i won't be rushing through it.
i thought i'd dislike bioshock's setting more than i did but i grew to like the crackly 50s music combined with underwater stuff, it's fairly unique.

[Sayantan]

i find the style of deus ex to be a little lame looking

Actually how I look at it, if the age at that time was 2008, you would have loved the style. Problem is not the character design style, it's the incapability of the technology to hold the character design style. I wish I was a character artist, I could have tried giving you an example.

[Klaus Kinski]

I love Deus Ex. It has some flaws and, being a video game, didn't age too well. However, it is one of the finest games ever designed and to this day, I have nothing played in first person perspective that came even close to its complexity, be it gameplay or story, except System Shock 2.
But maybe DX simply isn't Zuljin's cup of tea. Heck, I don't give a shit how excellent Guitar hero 8 might be, I won't like it because I'm not interested in that kind of game. It's not my taste.

[Nihilanth]

Well, since there are quite few opinions on DX lately, I might as well state mine, thought I did it many times already. DX is the best game ever created, in my opinion (next to DOOM but DOOM is above the "oridinary" games ;)). I think I talked a lot about it in my FPS thread, DX is the game that to me gave the example of where the First-Person games should be going. Unfortunetely none has followed.

[Destructor]

Deus Ex is pretty cool. I've only played through the whole thing once though, not like Half-Life or something which I've played through numerous times.

[Klaus Kinski]

Play it again, dude. The first three times I played rather stealthily but the fourth time, I took the rocket launcher with me. By the end of the game I felt like the son of Rambo and Supergirl. I could jump 5 meters high and ate bullets for breakfast.

[Sayantan]

DX is the game that to me gave the example of where the First-Person games should be going. Unfortunetely none has followed.

Sad but true. Though loads of games took inspiration as small pieces from it and made their game better.

By the end of the game I felt like the son of Rambo and Supergirl. I could jump 5 meters high and ate bullets for breakfast.

ROTFLMAO! :insomnia:
Moreover the multiple endings are really appealing in this very game. :D

[Aegeri]

You know, originally I was gonna say why I don't like it, but that would be a waste of my time since I've stumbled upon DeusExCodex obviously. Deal with it guys. It's probably the same kind of ridicule I'll get for saying I like FOT and FO3 more than FO1 and FO2.

You just have terrible taste in games. It's ok ;)

You do save yourself with Bloodlines though, I wish Troika had been able to finish that game properly so much as they could have made a FPS/RPG hybrid that eclipsed Dues Ex if they had. Unfortunately, they just didn't have the time to do it properly :(

[ZuljinRaynor]

It's alright :love:

Hey, want to come over to my place, and we can talk about how I don't like Wolf3D, Doom, Quake 1/2, RtCW, and Half-Life?

Sure. :D

Well, you could've said that in the beginning. You get such reactions from people for trolling the thread. Comparision with Halo, saying that Halo is elitist, and that Deus Ex was overhyped just screamed with the same type of uninformness and ignorance for which you and the rest of your clan use to bash a "certain guy" in Hl2 and Bioshock threads.

I know you like being an *******, but come on. You're comparing me, someone who never said his opinion is a fact to someone who keeps stating his opinions as fact. I said I don't like it not no ove likes it and this random poll that I pulled out of my ass supports my facts.

Plus I never trolled, I just posted in the last game played thread that it was the last game I played and didn't like it. Get your facts straight if you want to even attempt to flame.

You can't go into a game pre-conditioned to wanting it to be like something you're already familiar w/& in luv with. Nor to go in mainly to judge it. In the right, neutral mind frame going in to just play, really take the time & enjoy it...I think most will luv Deus Ex, both of them.

Well, sadly, so many people said this game is fantastic so I decided to finally give it a try. Never planned on doing that since it's Cyberpunk but still went ahead and tried.


Zul, may be just so accustomed to something very different that she/he? is just not acclimatized to it at all. Things she/he's used to maybe not there, etc. & turned off by something different..

Well I enjoyed System Shock 2 for the part I played of it. Never got around to finishing it because I had other games hook me in more but I do like the hybrid game. With Deus Ex it's just nothing attracts me. I tried it again over break. Got farther and still nope, uninstalling it again.


I still agree it's probably the best, most quality filled out video game to date, at least that I'm familiar with. It actually has a very involved & believeable story, very mind-philosophically engaging. Very fun upgrades & special type characters. And alot of different ways to play it.
Well, depending on the Genre, cause I'd say that X-Com is one of those quality filled games. Turn based Tactics + Overworld map + RPG elements for the soldiers + research... that to me is quality.

Another game I would say is NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007. You may say "a manager game?" Well, this game is so deep, so enveloped in hockey that it's just quality.

I know many of you either categorize Deus Ex as FPS + some RPG elements or FPS/RPG but I just can't compare it to standard FPS games so I can't call it the most quality filled game since well you can't really compare all the genres together.


I'd like to play System Shock 2 again but gave it to someone else & they've moved.

I love Deus Ex. It has some flaws and, being a video game, didn't age too well. However, it is one of the finest games ever designed and to this day, I have nothing played in first person perspective that came even close to its complexity, be it gameplay or story, except System Shock 2.
Well, SS2 hasn't aged well and I enjoyed it much more. I think it goes down to the setting.


But maybe DX simply isn't Zuljin's cup of tea. Heck, I don't give a shit how excellent Guitar hero 8 might be, I won't like it because I'm not interested in that kind of game. It's not my taste.
Exactly.

You just have terrible taste in games. It's ok ;)

You do save yourself with Bloodlines though, I wish Troika had been able to finish that game properly so much as they could have made a FPS/RPG hybrid that eclipsed Dues Ex if they had. Unfortunately, they just didn't have the time to do it properly :(
I save myself with X-Com though more importantly. :p

Oh how I wish VTMB was made on the latest version of Source. :(

[Lethe]

Sure. :D



I know you like being an *******, but come on.

You were not really better that the "guy" you like to bash often. I know that you're not used to that kind of honesty here, but you got an ******* treatment, which you deserved at the moment and you know that really well. Good night.

[Sayantan]

I liked VTMB quite a lot (minus the bugs ofcourse). But it just didn't come even 50% close to the orgasms I had with Deus Ex. :love: