id Super Pack 50% off until Monday, Sept. 8

[Echo Black]

I bit the bullet on this one despite already owning over 50% of the games that come with the pack. The price is just unbelievable. Under 40 bucks! :dopefish:

The only games I reckon to be missing are Quake 4 and Heretic II.


Individual price $214.78
Package price $69.99
limited time discount -$35.00

Cost to you
$34.99

You save
$179.79

[alexgk]

Bought it a few hours ago. Totally unbelievable, as you say...

[avatar_58]

Seriously if everyone doesn't own these games by the end of the weekend (region permitting) they are truly missing out.

[Zztx]

Damn! What a bad time to be unemployed and devoid of plastic.

I'll be sure to tell my buddy, though.

[Babe]

I would rather have the freedom for the rest of my life and spend 150 bucks more for one time in my life. And that fredom will ensure that I can install and play whenever I like without any type of online requirements.

[Echo Black]

I would rather have the freedom for the rest of my life and spend 150 bucks more for one time in my life. And that fredom will ensure that I can install and play whenever I like without any type of online requirements.

...What?

There are no online requirements for these other than being online while downloading them (duh), since all games in the pack are compatible with Steam's offline mode. You'll need a connection to play online, of course.

EDIT: Also, in case you don't know: You can legally burn any Steam game you've downloaded to physical media (discs) of your own, if you so desire. You won't even need a connection to reinstall. I could understand being reactionary and cynical when Steam was new and full of problems, but it has been a very stable platform for a while now.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Also all the Dos games you can play in source ports.

But this is a steal... BUY IT NOW!

[Vroomfondel]

Also all the Dos games you can play in source ports.

They're not ports, they run through DOSBox

[ZuljinRaynor]

They're not ports, they run through DOSBox

I never said that. I said you can play in source ports. Just copy that wad. ;) Oh and for Wolf and Sod copy the respective .SOD files and .WL6 to the ports.

[Vroomfondel]

Ah sorry, misunderstood. Anyway, I bought this pack when it originally came out. Can't complain.

[Babe]

...What?

There are no online requirements for these other than being online while downloading them (duh), since all games in the pack are compatible with Steam's offline mode. You'll need a connection to play online, of course.

EDIT: Also, in case you don't know: You can legally burn any Steam game you've downloaded to physical media (discs) of your own, if you so desire. You won't even need a connection to reinstall. I could understand being reactionary and cynical when Steam was new and full of problems, but it has been a very stable platform for a while now.

You can not go into offline mode starightway when you start the game, but rather need to verify the authenticity online before going offline mode. I know I can back off steam games to a disc, but once you re-install, you again have to online for authentication each and every time you start your game, offline mode or online play.

[ZuljinRaynor]

You can not go into offline mode starightway when you start the game, but rather need to verify the authenticity online before going offline mode. I know I can back off steam games to a disc, but once you re-install, you again have to online for authentication each and every time you start your game, offline mode or online play.

Every game in this pack that is DOS based (Keens, Wolf3d, Spear of Destiny, Doom 1, Doom 2, etc.) you can copy from teh folder steam installs it to and play it where ever you like. So you don't need to run steam for those.

[Qbix]

might want to get all the xcom games that are on steam as well since yesterday

[Mountain Man]

You can not go into offline mode starightway when you start the game, but rather need to verify the authenticity online before going offline mode. I know I can back off steam games to a disc, but once you re-install, you again have to online for authentication each and every time you start your game, offline mode or online play.
Then don't buy it. :shrug:

(Just so you know, Steam hating went out of style about three years ago. ;))

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

Shame I already own these games, so no reason to get this.

[8IronBob]

Hmm... Maybe id Software may have made Windows ports for all their old classics by now, or one would think...

[ShadeEX]

Ahh man to bad I bought them at full price allready, could have saved some cash for more games..

Oh well the id Super Pack is still well worth the full price I payed for it..

But definatly a steal for all who don't already own the games..

[Superczar]

I'm trying to get my friend to get this, he has only a couple of the games (DOOM 1 & 2) and for him this would be a great deal and then some.

I already got it last X-mas though when it was $60 so :(

I might jump on the X-Com pack though, hell it's only $14?

[big fat lazy]

Sounds like a good deal, I wish I had any interest in any of those games.

[Boo Boo Juice]

This is waaaayyyyy too good of a deal to pass up. I've been wanting to play Doom 3 again, and that is 20 bucks alone. I also wouldn't mind getting into hexen and heretic again either.

[Damien_Azreal]

Is a great deal.

But, I can't justify spending the money on it. I already own all those games in retail form.

[Boo Boo Juice]

Is a great deal.

But, I can't justify spending the money on it. I already own all those games in retail form.

Well then it is totally pointless for you :p. I don't own any of these anymore :o

So its a fricken must have for me! I'm downloading Doom 3 right now. Can't wait to play that again.

[Damien_Azreal]

Oh I completely agree. If I didn't own the games, I would buy that in an instant.

[Kien]

I would buy if it was was boxes too. :) Not just digital.

[Zero]

I'm with babe on this one, if steam ever goes down and you need to hose your windows install for any reason all that software litterly means nothing, all that money you spend you might as well have burned it in a fire, at least it would have kept you warm.

I do buy some games online, but not from steam if I can help it, I bought Darwinia, Uplink and Defcon from the makers of the game and was quite happy to realize there were no protection on these games.

Bionic Commando Rearmed I used a cracked dll, the way I see it is, if I bought the game no one has the right to stop me from playing it by any means. Unless they feel like returning my money. I don't care i it worked while the "server" was online there is no garentee that server will always contenue to support those games and or who says it will be up at all in the future?
That's why I prefer digial downloads that don't restrict me or hard copy!

[thefly]

Cost to you
$34.99

You save
$179.79

I can't stand the "you save $X.XX" statements. No one can save money if they are spending money.

People are stupid.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Oh I completely agree. If I didn't own the games, I would buy that in an instant.

I own like 75% of them. I still bought it.

I can't stand the "you save $X.XX" statements. No one can save money if they are spending money.

People are stupid.
:doh:


Bionic Commando Rearmed I used a cracked dll, the way I see it is, if I bought the game no one has the right to stop me from playing it by any means. Unless they feel like returning my money. I don't care i it worked while the "server" was online there is no garentee that server will always contenue to support those games and or who says it will be up at all in the future?
That's why I prefer digial downloads that don't restrict me or hard copy!

Sorry but your logic does not make sense. You see you don't buy the game, you buy a license. And those are terms. So they have every right to stop you from playing them by any means. They can terminate the license. The license might have a clause that says that service is not guaranteed forever. It's not your say. Your say is if you agree or disagree.

[thefly]

^Explain then how one saves $179.79 by spending $34.99.

[8IronBob]

Yeah, I'd like Hexen II out of this, I mean, with the Ultimate Quake package, I'd rather have Hexen II to complete the package I need to make the QED II editor's experience complete. Should be pretty good...

[LeadBullet]

^Explain then how one saves $179.79 by spending $34.99.

Its a price comparison of the sale vs. if you were to buy all the items under normal circumstances.

I'm pretty sure 99% of people, including Wal-Mart shoppers understand this.

[fast-1]

I own Quake 2 PS1, Doom ( includes Ultimate doom & doom 2 )PS1, Final doom PS1 , Doom 3 PC. So wont bother to get.

[ZuljinRaynor]

^Explain then how one saves $179.79 by spending $34.99.

Its a price comparison of the sale vs. if you were to buy all the items under normal circumstances.

I'm pretty sure 99% of people, including Wal-Mart shoppers understand this.

Bingo. I don't know what your problem is thefly, but that's how it works. When a price drops you save compared to the MSRP or whatever.

I own Quake 2 PS1, Doom ( includes Ultimate doom & doom 2 )PS1, Final doom PS1 , Doom 3 PC. So wont bother to get.

All those ports are inferior to the PC versions. Not to mention you don't have Wolf3d, SoD, Hexen, Keen, Quake 3, etc etc... $35 for all that is a steal.

[Zero]

Sorry but your logic does not make sense. You see you don't buy the game, you buy a license. And those are terms. So they have every right to stop you from playing them by any means. They can terminate the license. The license might have a clause that says that service is not guaranteed forever. It's not your say. Your say is if you agree or disagree.

It is my say, thats why I use cracks. My computer, my rules! I may not own the rights to the game itself, but I'd love some company to tell me i can not longer use there software and actually try to up hold that in court, since they are not providing me with a service, but rather a product that has a one time fee I am untitled to use it whenever I want, there is no "life" on a already finished product, it's not like I am adding things to the program and i need support. A perfect example of this is Quake, iD doesn't support Quake anymore, they don't make patches for it anymore. It's finished as far as they are concerned.

And if you are referring to Microsoft's EULA it wouldn't hold up in court.

"No Court has ruled on the validity of EULAs generally"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA#Enforceability

[ZuljinRaynor]

It is my say, thats why I use cracks. My computer, my rules! I may not own the rights to the game itself, but I'd love some company to tell me i can not longer use there software and actually try to up hold that in court, since they are not providing me with a service, but rather a product that has a one time fee I am untitled to use it whenever I want, there is no "life" on a already finished product, it's not like I am adding things to the program and i need support. A perfect example of this is Quake, iD doesn't support Quake anymore, they don't make patches for it anymore. It's finished as far as they are concerned.

And if you are referring to Microsoft's EULA it wouldn't hold up in court.

"No Court has ruled on the validity of EULAs generally"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA#Enforceability

:doh::brickwall:

Sadly I can't call you anything here cause that would be inappropirate but there are over 100 words as to what you are.

You're computer, you're rules, you're illegal activity. No one should sell you any licenses with you attitude.

If you think what you are doing is morally correct, then I laugh.

[Babe]

Then don't buy it. :shrug:

(Just so you know, Steam hating went out of style about three years ago. ;))

Huh who says I am buying it. Not giving them a single cent after the incident I had with them with my legit purchased copy. And it is not about style. Steam is anti-freedom, and the point remains valid till now, that hasn't changed in last 3 years.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Huh who says I am buying it. Not giving them a single cent after the incident I had with them with my legit purchased copy. And it is not about style. Steam is anti-freedom, and the point remains valid till now, that hasn't changed in last 3 years.

Being able to go on any computer, log in as myself and download and play my games sounds like enough freedom to me.

There is no such thing as 100% freedom. No where.

[alexgk]

Enjoying the pack. Full of great stuff :)

[avatar_58]

Huh who says I am buying it. Not giving them a single cent after the incident I had with them with my legit purchased copy. And it is not about style. Steam is anti-freedom, and the point remains valid till now, that hasn't changed in last 3 years.

Not to go into a rant here, but you do realize releases that are not steam-only (aka a retail copy exists) have only their exes switched? If you are that anal about it backup the steam copy with a regular 'fixed' exe. Problem solved. For the dos games just replace the dosbox install with the regular version - no steam necessary anymore.

So if steam kicked the bucket the only games that you'd lose are the ones that NEED steam like Half-life 2 and it's episodes.

[Zero]

If you think what you are doing is morally correct, then I laugh.

So then why buy any game at all? if you don't actually have any right to play it because a company no longer wants you to, and you wonder why there is so much illegal activity these days, if they would stop putting stupid rules on everything maybe people wouldn't pirate as much. Not that i do, but i will crack the games I buy like I always have, I have a lot of games installed, if i where to get the cds for these games every time I want to play a random game, I just wouldn't want to play it.

Morally I am doing nothing wrong i paid for the software and i don't see anything wrong with what i am doing, i am choosing to play games on my own terms, if I want to play these games for kicks 20-40 years down the road I don't see why i shouldn't be able to.

When governments and companys make stupid rules like that, it's called censorship, there is no other explanation on why today i have the right to play these games but in 20 years I may not have that same right. I don't see why we need to censor content that a user has already paid for, it's almost as bad as the nokia phones these days, they can transfer all your cell phone games but they wont, why? because they feel that you should have to buy them over again, why? you already paid for them once, i don't see any contract when i bought them so I see no crime in unlocking my new and old phone and ripping the games from my old phone to my new one.

If that's how the gamer world is now, well I guess I'll find a new hobby, one that doesn't tell me when I can or can't do something I could do before.
This is the EXACT reason i love open source software, because even if it is no longer maintained, as long as i have the source and play by the GPL's rules I can do what i want without any EULA stating retarded software use conductions.

[avatar_58]

If that's how the gamer world is now, well I guess I'll find a new hobby, one that doesn't tell me when I can or can't do something I could do before.
This is the EXACT reason i love open source software, because even if it is no longer maintained, as long as i have the source and play by the GPL's rules I can do what i want without any EULA stating retarded software use conductions.

The GPL still tells you what you can and cannot do with software. It's not really freedom.

[Kristian Joensen]

Also all the Dos games you can play in source ports.

But this is a steal... BUY IT NOW!

Yeah, also there are source ports of Quake, Quake 2 and Quake 3. Basically Doom 3 and ROE should be the only games that can't non-steam .exe's for in a manner that is 100% legal in all juristictions. Although it probably won't be much longer until the source code for those two will be GPL'ed as well.

[Echo Black]

Was playing Heretic using ZDoom (http://zdoom.org/News) earlier. I recommend it over the Super Pack's sound-glitching, blurry DOSBOX setup. You don't have to set anything up, ZDoom detects the WADs for you and you simply click play.

[Kristian Joensen]

Hmm wanted to buy this but the order confirmation thing on Steam says 69.99, even though everywhere else on Steam it says $34.99.

Edit:

Fixed it by restarting Steam.

Edit2:

Now it says my credit card has been denied. Potentially because I am not currently in living in the same country as stated on the card info. YAY!

[ShadeEX]

First of all if Steam goes belly up, you will still be able to play the games, since they will make a patch so games work without the use of Steam..

Second, you can log on steam through any computer and play games.. If for some reason there is a game you can't play, it's NOT because of Steam, but either because of local law in a country (read: game being banned) or by the developers/publishers decition.

So far Valve hasn't made US/Canada only releases and I seriously doubt they will start doing it anytime soon.. The only developer/publisher I remember doing that is Ubisoft..

[ShadeEX]

So then why buy any game at all? if you don't actually have any right to play it because a company no longer wants you to

When did a game developer/publisher ever NOT want you to use their product anymore..

A game developer/publisher may not support old games anymore, that they released a long time ago.. But who has ever said you couldn't use them, NO one..

They may not work because of compatibility but they are not required in any form what so ever to make it compatible with future OS's, Systems/Consoles.. It would cost too much to do so..

But compatibility is not the same as they don't want you to use a said product.. Just that said product wasn't developed for said System/OS..

[Zero]

The GPL still tells you what you can and cannot do with software. It's not really freedom.

It's free as in beer. :P
And I can do whatever I want, as long I I never give away a modified version of the software without source, I can do whatever I want with it , as long as i include the source with my changes to the software, so if i waned to take out some feature i would have to include a patch/source with the distributed piece of software, thus still allowing me to do whatever i want.


First of all if Steam goes belly up, you will still be able to play the games, since they will make a patch so games work without the use of Steam..


Says who? There are a lot of company's that say things and actually never do them, who's to say Valve won't do exactly that? I don't have any doubts that they might, but when investing in entertainment and all you have in a company's word in this day and age it means next to nothing.


When did a game developer/publisher ever NOT want you to use their product anymore..

A game developer/publisher may not support old games anymore, that they released a long time ago.. But who has ever said you couldn't use them, NO one..

They may not work because of compatibility but they are not required in any form what so ever to make it compatible with future OS's, Systems/Consoles.. It would cost too much to do so..

But compatibility is not the same as they don't want you to use a said product.. Just that said product wasn't developed for said System/OS..


Yes, this is true but at the same time, it is a more convenient way controlling what is to be considered "abandoned" once steams goes down and if valve doesn't do what they say, how do you intend to ever play Half-Life2, Sin: Episodes or anything else released like that? Surly you don't beleave your windows installation will last forever do you? so eventually you will have to reinstall steam and when that happends then you will be screwed.

All this type of system does is basically it puts a time line on when things are available, if you buy it now you have no garentee it will work in 10-20 years because the platform it runs on (steam) doesn't exist anymore, so basically there telling you once steam is done all the games you paid for are done as well. I have a problem with that, if I am "renting" the software, then at the end of the softwares life cycle i should get my money back. If I buy a game in 1991 that was on 5.25 disks, all i would need today is a drive to play them, there is no magical seal that stop the disk from working (unless i took a dump on it). I paid for the disks and I have the disks until I either mistreat them or decide it's time to part with them, this should NOT be the at the software vendors choice, it should be at my own, not theirs.

It's like if you had a car say something that is not made anymore from a company that is defunct, same something from DMC, a Delorean, if that car beaks down I should be able to fix it, and I can, DMC didn't put a time line on when the car just vanishes so nether should the software companies. Your money, your descion, not theres, they want your money, then why should they be the ones telling you when the product can no longer be played?

[ShadeEX]

Well I trust Valve in that reguard.. And I really do think the patch will be released..

Then again if it dosn't happen then yes we're screwed, unless other people make it work.. But I don't think it will come to that since, as I've said, I have faith in Valve..

But I'm fine with people not liking Steam, their decition..

[Llama Gibbz]

Valve is sitting on a gold mine with steam.

Imo steam isn't going anywhere unless.........
1.Somebody makes a offer for steam,thats ridiculously obscene.
2.Game industry crashes like it did in the early 80's.

[Stense]

Tis a good price for the pack. Picked it up earlier despite owning some of them already (for the record this makes it the third time I've purchased Doom 3). Some of the games could do with patching though, but they all seem to work well on modern PC's.

[ZuljinRaynor]

If that's how the gamer world is now, well I guess I'll find a new hobby, one that doesn't tell me when I can or can't do something I could do before.

Please do.

So if you don't like Steam... KEEP OUT OF THE STEAM THREADS. WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS ANYMORE.

[Nacho]

Bought it. That is an amazing price...

I totaly am in debt due to school and scrounged up some money for this... crazy talk...

[8IronBob]

Right, and I'm hoping that Hammer will be compatible with the Quake games and Hexen II when it comes to level mapping, since it's done well with Valve's own games, id should probably get some benefit with that.

[Nacho]

Well, I just looked at Quake and it comes with the Quake map editor QuakeWorld so I'm assuming the other games come with their respected editors.

Note: the editor does not show up in tools but when you right click the game in the 'my games' tab.

[8IronBob]

Yeah, I think that you should really download Hammer v3.5 outside of Steam, and maybe from FilePlanet, then set it up from there, and d/l a third-party build compilation suite, which is what I did for other games.
Unless v3.5 is only Source based, and not compatible with the old Quake games.

[Echo Black]

Right, and I'm hoping that Hammer will be compatible with the Quake games and Hexen II when it comes to level mapping, since it's done well with Valve's own games, id should probably get some benefit with that.

I thought you made a thread for this already?

[fast-1]

:flame:


If I could buy a retail DVD/CD disc from a shop. Which installs in steam then it would be a very good to play with people online if the game is multiplayer.

There are some things which make me unsure to buy from the steam store.

1.
I use my money not online, how do I know it's safe, is buying from a internet a good idea. Which paying for a product could be anything is not without problems.

2.
What happens with loose my internet broadband or have to reinstall windows.

3.
Even though I bought a CD/DVD game from a shop I will decide if I will sell it, not be stuck with it. Also what if I don't have enough hard drive space ?

[axion]

1. It is as safe as it's ever going to be online, I don't think anyone's info has ever been compromised from Steam.
2. You can still play them without being connected to the internet IF you have them downloaded to your computer already. Reinstalling Windows isn't an issue, since the games are tied to your account, not your computer. You can download and play them on as many computers as you like, just not simultaneously.
3. You don't need to have all the games installed at once, you can uninstall/install them as you please. If you are running out of HD space, just uninstall some.

[Superczar]

And you can back them up!

[TerminX]

Well, I just looked at Quake and it comes with the Quake map editor QuakeWorld so I'm assuming the other games come with their respected editors.

Note: the editor does not show up in tools but when you right click the game in the 'my games' tab.
QuakeWorld isn't a map editor... it's a multiplayer Quake client that everyone used "back in the day" to play Quake online.

[8IronBob]

QuakeWorld isn't a map editor... it's a multiplayer Quake client that everyone used "back in the day" to play Quake online.

Right, you must be thinking WorldCraft, which is now owned by Valve and renamed as Hammer. I'm still wondering newer versions'll even work with id's older games.

[8IronBob]

First is was id, now it's Rockstar's turn to offer 50% off their collection. I just read that on Steam Update not too long ago. Gonna be sweet to own all the Max Paynes and GTAs that were ever released on PC. Can't wait to put down my $30 for all that good stuff.