You need a 3ghz Geforce5 for MP to run good

[Guest]

Theres many people that state their powerful system with a geforce3 and their framerates drop below 30 when theres gun fire...........

So it looks like you need a 3ghz with a Geforce5 for MP to NEVER drop below 30

thank you and gb

[Guest]

No, you get around 74fps with a geforce 3. Unless you are an idiot and have FSAA cranked.

[Guest]

Oh so you get 74fps when theres gun fire and theres 3 characters on your screen...

I thought so

please relax

thank you

[Guest]

Dual ingrams drop the framerates but not below 35fps.

[Darrin]

The thing people need to understand is, the Max Payne engine is new and most, if not all cards really need newer drivers to get the most out of it.

You see, this is what we wanted, photo realistic graphics, we got it, now we need better card drivers to push it.

75 FPS is awesome for ANY GAME really but give it time and newer drivers will come out, DX 8.01 anyone?

Ofcause the developers need to get it right also and create a rock solid engine to push this kind of extreme detail in a game.

This game takes me back 4 years or so, remember Trespasser? This game was way, way ahead of its time and even now alot of systems have trouble with it but the engine is not as good as it could of been anyway, but hey, thats the price we pay for demanding better and better graphics.

Now, if we the gamers would just relax a bit and think of game play over graphics this kind of thing would not happen, developers would not be under so much pressure to make extremely detailed games thus 80% of gamers cant run the game as their rigs cant push it.

. I still would play MP if it look as good as say the TR games crossed somewhere on par with Serious Sam.

Anyway, one thing to remember, games like MP demand 64 meg cards and PIIIs or Athlons above 800Hrz to even think about getting it running the way it should.

Anway, thats my 2 cents and I hope I did not upset anyone, if I did, I am sorry, but all this, I cant run Max Payne over 30 FPS with my TNT 2 or MX card is getting old. Get a newer card if you need to run it at high res, or just lower the res, either way, play it for what it is, a kick ass, freaky to the point of being to perfect gaming.

[Guest]

I'm running MP at 1024x768 with FSAA on and all details turned to high.

When there are four or more enemies on screen and the bullets are flying and we're all capping the hell out of the tiled walls, I usually drop to 28 FPS for a moment or two. Not even noticable really.

What does it take to impress some people?!

Oh my base specs are: 900 T-Bird, Geforce 3, 512 MD.

[eshwaaz]

I'm using 12.90 drivers. I'd blame Windows ME, but as I said, every other game works without a hitch. Also, my 3D Mark 2001 score is very high, and you'd think that if it were a driver problem that my score would be affected. Btw, I have FSAA and Vsync off.

Fraterates in Max are really quite decent, until I fire a gun. I think the game itself is outstanding; I've never had issue with that. For me, it lives up to the hype, but these performance problems have tainted the experience from the start.

[Guest]

What about your sound card? Have you looked into that? That can really screw up a game's performance.

[BZMew2]

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Max Payne wasn't designed to be only for the rich people with l337 computer systems. It runs great on LOTS of systems.

I run it on a PIII 600 @ 744 with 384 megs of RAM and a GeForce2 GTS at 1024 x 768 at maximum detail and I get an average of 30-40 FPS constantly. When I run it at 1024 x 768 at default settings I get about 50-60 FPS average.

You don't HAVE to play it at max settings (no pun intended) images/icons/wink.gif .

[eshwaaz]

Judis, I have a SB Live! Value, which I've heard can cause some problems. Thing is, I went ahead and disabled it altogether, and then turned off the sounds in Max, and still no significant improvements.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>You don't HAVE to play it at max settings<hr></blockquote> -BZMew2

That's true, but I spent a buttload of money to buy a top-of-the-line system that should be able to run any game out there, with everything set to maximum, without breaking a sweat. And except for Max Payne, that's what I got.

When recommended requirements state that you should get a score of 2200 in 3D Mark 2001 to run the game smoothly at medium, it would seem fair and logical to conclude that a machine that gets more than 2 1/2 times that should be able to run it smoothly on high settings.

Apparently, this is the case for some people; I simply want to know what the problem is on my system.

[ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: eshwaaz ]

[eshwaaz]

Judis, slowdown to 28 fps for me would be completely acceptable. I understand there's a lot going on, tons of particles and collisions, and some slowdown is bound to happen.

However, as I've stated in other posts, I get drops well below 10 fps - the game just chokes. I've tweaked the hell out of my system trying to fix the problem. I now get a score of 5675 in 3D Mark 2001 with my 1.5 GHz, 256 MB RAM and a 64 MB GeForce 3. I have all the latest drivers, and my system is quite clean.

Obviously there's some kind of issue with something on my system, but all other games run beautifully. Slowdown to the 20 - 30 fps range would be fine. Under 10 with my specs is ridiculous.

[Guest]

What OS are you running?


Ah. ME. Never mind...


Which Detonator Drivers are you using?

[ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: PraetorJudis ]

[Guest]

It's great that MP takes advantage of some newer aspects of video cards, hardware T&L works great.

I'm just running a P3-700, 224MB SDRAM, 64MB GeForce2 Ultra. I get great fps at 1024x768 with FSAA turned on. I set all the detail settings and stuff to max, though I left it at 16-bit color. I've found that in any games I've played the change in graphics resulting from 32-bit color is almost unnoticable, and definitely not worth the hit in performance.

[Guest]

Lets just hope no other games come out using the MAX FX engine...... cuz it certainly is not a optimized engine..... they spent all their time perfecting the slow motion..... instead of optimizing the engine...

just my two cents

thank you

[Guest]

The engine is amazing and optimized very well. For how it looks it runs very well...unlike the lithtech engine, which looks ok but runs like shit.
Use bilinear filtering instead of the others, I really dont notice the difference in appearance but i sure do notice the difference in performance.
One of the biggest performance hits you can change is detail textures. It will increase your performance by like 20fps if you turn it off. And you dont even notice it off unless you for some reason are zooming all the way into Max's face. Detail textures basically doubles the texture memory usage. In most games I turn it off.

[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: Helios ]

[rob2001]

It runs quite well on my system (Pentium III 933MHz, 128MB RAM, and GeForce2 MX 64MB.) But, I should mention that when I first got my video card installed it wouldn't recognize Open GL and I couldn't play Quake III Arena or Serious Sam. The only fix was to do a system restore which wipes out all software then re-installs it. Yes, it's a bit extreme and it erases your hard-drive, but sometimes that's the only option.

[YellowAlienBaby]

I play with an
Athlon 750
GeForce 256 DDR (Best bit of hardware I ever got. Bought it end of '99 and it still runs all the new games, nearly maxed out..)
128MB 133RAM.

I play 640x480 4xFSAA, most details settings at max, 32bit color, my framerates are perfectly good for me. I get a quick hiccup if a bunch of people appear, or I round a corner into a big room.

I actually think games look 'richer' with 32bit colour and 4xAA at a low-res. Upping the resolution starts to make textures look flat as the screen resolution starts to become higher than the resolution of the textures bitmap once it has been stretched.

And with 4xAA, the 640x480 res looks fine 'cause 99% of the jaggies get stomped on.

hmm.

my 2p

[asabour]

how do i check my FPS while in max payne?

i have a radeon 64, p3 1ghz, 128mb RDRAM, etc and the game runs fantastic for me with the highest settings for everything except color because i can't tell difference. (i play at 1024x768x16)

I rarely see a drop in FPS and its only when there are big explosions or something.

[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: asabour ]

[Guest]

hell, even 35 fps is ok

[RollingBrass]

/sigh

[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: RollingBrass ]

[Guest]

i was having problems with Max at first with my geforce 3 but it was the bios settings that made it slow. recently im playing 1280x1024x32 anisotropic filter everything on high i get 85fps dropping to 60fps when things get heated on a overclocked geforce3(core clock 220 mem at 520) . when i turn on the FSAA i get a good drop in framerates but ohh it looks so sweet better than the pretty ss's on Max'x home site but i get 45 fps dropping to 30 fps over all use the Quincunx Antialiasing which give 4X quality at the 2X expense of resources. imdiggin the g3 power cause even at 45 fps its totally playable.

it seems as though people with geforce 2's think they can run mav on high and get good framerates at say 800x600 i had a geforce 2 and you will be hard preased to play max at candy eye levels with taht card or cards with chipsets similiar.

my system 1.333g Athlon ,512mb, pc133 ram, mobo AsUs a7v133 with RAID-0, geforce 3 on 12.41 detonators, SB live 5.1,2 40 gig Maxtor hardrives on Raid, powered by a 400W Antec power supply.

you dont need all this to run max like i do my freind has less but also has a geforce 3 card and a 1gig athlon.


FOR YOU TO RUN MAX LISTEN TO ME THE RECOMMENDED REQUIREMENTS ARE WRONG...! LOOK AT YOUR BOX YOULL SEE IT SAY UNDER RECOMMENDED THAT IT GOT A 3DMARK2001 MARK OF 2200.....!2200 IS NOT GOOD! 3000 AND ABOVE MARK IS SILKLY SMOOTH. IF YOU WANNA HAVE 3DMARK 2001 GO HERE http://guru3d.com/ LOOK ON YOUR LEFT AND CLICK ON DOWNLOADS THEN CLICK ON DOWNLOAD GENERIC UTILITIES,DIRECTX,AND BENCHMARKS.........SCROLL DOWN UNTIL YOU SEE 3D VIDEO BENCMARKS & DEMO'S
CLICK ON 3DMARK 2001. PEACE