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hightreason
01-09-2009, 12:20 PM
Yeah, i dunno if anybody here remembers, but some time ago i observed the differences of the box-art on the back of the Duke 3D box.
I did this here (http://www.freewebs.com/hctreason/duke3dstuff1.htm)
If you were to look at this you would notice a link to Duke Nukem 3D Shareware 1.1 - which you can download here (http://freewebs.com/hctreason/Nukem.rar)
This, is the first version i ever played. Forget colorful loading screens and stuff, and sod the nice installer.
The .CON files are a bit different and there are vast improvements over version 1.0 - i didnt know whether anybody would be interested, so i just posted on the off-chance.
Oh, and i want to ask 3D Realms staff a question, which is this;
What are the rules for Duke Nukem 3D Beta V1.0? Would it be illigal to own it and would it be illigal to distribute it?
Thankyou.
And i hope somebody finds this interesting, if not, then im sorry for wasting your time ( ya right, actually i couldnt care less :P )
SwissCM
01-09-2009, 06:41 PM
I probably shouldn't talk about it, but a beta version of Duke Shareware was leaked at some point. The changes between that and 1.0 are minimal.
* Quick Kick isn't quick. It lowers whatever weapon you have, kicks as per normal, and then raises the weapon again.
* Some duketalk that didn't make it into 1.0, mainly on switches and stuff (removed since you could activate a switch many times and it would play the sample over and over again)
* Small changes in the levels, mostly added detail that was removed for performance reasons in the final version.
* The rocket area in E1L6 is quite different, being more open and having a different sky texture (it uses a beta starry sky/ocean BG rather than the starry sky. It's in the same spot though)
* Strange unused areas in most of the levels, quite interesting really. A lot of them are fully textured and even populated with monsters. I speculate that they were originally going to be a part of the level, but sector deletion in Build was buggy (early versions had problems apparently). These unused areas also seem to match the "theme" of the level they are in. There is actually a similar "hidden area" in the retail version too, in E3L5.
http://home.spin.net.au/swisscm/dukebeta1.png
* Those sloped ceilings in E1L3 are there.
* Other assorted changes that I'll probably get around to documenting at some point. I find early versions of stuff interesting.
EDIT:
http://home.spin.net.au/swisscm/dukebeta2.png
:O (considering it's only shareware and the game is more than 10 years old I don't feel too guilty)
Nimoy
01-09-2009, 07:51 PM
That rocket you think is from Strife is actually from Lameduke, so is that commonly used explosion sprite. The "different" stain glass is actually they just used the Battlelord stained glassed texture twice rather than one Battlelord and one Duke. The "mysterious" grey thing you mention in the old screenshot with the Lameduke gun is just the RPG sprite. The Spacesuit was in the game at one point, in the beta I believe it actually works.
ilovefoxes
01-11-2009, 05:20 AM
* Strange unused areas in most of the levels, quite interesting really. A lot of them are fully textured and even populated with monsters. I speculate that they were originally going to be a part of the level, but sector deletion in Build was buggy (early versions had problems apparently). These unused areas also seem to match the "theme" of the level they are in. There is actually a similar "hidden area" in the retail version too, in E3L5.
http://home.spin.net.au/swisscm/dukebeta1.pngI have dowloaded 1.0 and 1.1 and none of them had those areas here with me.
Where you download that version of yours?
hightreason
01-11-2009, 05:28 AM
I had some videos of Beta V1.0 here (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qB1FhiF_KNY&feature=channel_page)
I still dunno if distribution of beta 1.0 is legal though - and im not sure if im gonna rake it out or not yet.
I want to find V1.2 - im sure i had it.
Oh, and the space suit - not sure what beta that was in...
http://freewebs.com/hctreason/24_PCX.JPG
Thanks to kare bear for this image.
Nimoy
01-11-2009, 01:29 PM
If I remember right, you have to make a mish-mashed compile of 1.3 and the beta and try playing the space levels to use the space suit. It can be done.
Dopefish7590
01-11-2009, 06:28 PM
http://home.spin.net.au/swisscm/dukebeta2.png
:O (considering it's only shareware and the game is more than 10 years old I don't feel too guilty)
Haha... Look at the "official" release date. :D
Nimoy
01-11-2009, 08:18 PM
That was the release date for Shadow Warrior, too.
SwissCM
01-11-2009, 08:45 PM
I have dowloaded 1.0 and 1.1 and none of them had those areas here with me.
Where you download that version of yours?
The version I have is .99, not 1.0. I can't really say where I got it, but I can say it's pretty easy to find using google, not that I condone it.
hightreason
01-18-2009, 03:33 PM
Hmm, mine is .99 - but somewhere it says 1.0 - i dunno.
I wish the guy who leaked this would leak DNF :D
I might get round to updating my page at my site, and including this stuff - i dunno yet, got a lot on my hands right now with my games consoles (i collect them) and that's taking priority now.
Im guessing that its still illegal to distribute .99 1.0 and 1.2 then?
Psyrgery
01-20-2009, 07:35 AM
Haha... Look at the "official" release date. :D
Time Paradox!
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