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SpamViking
03-30-2009, 01:31 AM
I know a few of the older ubb'ers know about my band "Edges of Seven" (see sig). For the most part I do all the graphic work, but for the life of me, I've never been able to come up with a cool logo/symbol/glyph for the band. Something like Nine Inch Nails' "NIN", Ministry's "M in a circle" symbol, etc. I'm hoping somebody can design a simple yet cool logo that we can use to really represent the band. No colors, just a plain black & white piece that I can plaster everywhere, that I can funk up a bit when I need to, etc. Maybe something using "eo7", "E7", or whatever you can think of. Something cool, a little abstract, something you could see embroidered on clothing, as well as on the front of a CD cover. If someone can come up with something really cool that we can use, we can discuss compensation as well.
Feel free to post it here, or pm me. Thanks guys!
:)

Rider
03-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Quck and dirty, but something like this perhaps?

ZuljinRaynor
03-30-2009, 03:05 PM
You shouldn't attach the logo to the forums since now 3DR can use it or what not according to their rules.

SpamViking
03-30-2009, 03:21 PM
Not too bad Rider :)
I'm not too worried about 3DR using an Eo7 logo for anything. Can't really see it making an appearance in DNF :D

jimbob
03-30-2009, 06:33 PM
i`ll fire up the old PsP and come up with a few ideas :)

[edit]
just some quickies, i hope you like em

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 06:43 PM
Examples (http://www.saunalahti.fi/peoples/examples.png)

Few rough sketches, didn't put too much time to them so they are bit rough. Just voice your opinions :)

Nessus
03-30-2009, 06:58 PM
Mine is geared towards something a kid would draw on notebook the way i used to do with the Who and Van Halen.

The concept is that the E is through the 7 so that the 7 forms the middle prong of the E and calls to mind the anarchy symbol. Then i put little lines on the edges so that there are 7's on the edges. (nyuk nyuk)

It looks horrible but an artist should be able to make something of it.

Bludd
03-30-2009, 07:03 PM
I am not a graphical guy, but here's an idea for a concept someone might visualise:

A regular heptagon around a stylised E7? A regular heptagon is of course a polygon with seven edges.

Maybe any of these heptahedrons? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptahedron

Many of these shapes are interesting and can be fashioned as promotional "stuff" once the symbol is worked out. Playing on the mathematical and topological meaning of the name, of course.

Nessus
03-30-2009, 07:08 PM
How about something in a septagram?

http://images.fa-bulo.us/uploads/2307.gif

http://symboldictionary.net/library/graphics/symbols/elven.jpg

I've always liked the look of the second one. It's like a pentagram but you rarely see it.

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 07:10 PM
Nessus & Bludd, good ideas both :) Not a fan of the septagram idea though.

London_Midge
03-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Mine is geared towards something a kid would draw on notebook the way i used to do with the Who and Van Halen.


Yeah, I kind of went the same way.

Rider
03-30-2009, 07:36 PM
Nothing new, just an alternate version of the one I posted earlier. I thought the whole "cut-out" thing was kind of cool.

Llama Gibbz
03-30-2009, 07:45 PM
Mine is geared towards something a kid would draw on notebook the way i used to do with the Who and Van Halen.

.

Was thinking the same thing.
The "O" is hard to implement,unless someones really creative.
Imo,it would be easier to create a logo without it.


Honestly this a bit of a rip on the twisted sister logo. :D
The edges are a bit jagged,im not a photoshop guru.

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/8g09hq7v/thumb/Untitled.png (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/8g09hq7v/Untitled.png)

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/t8hol8bc/thumb/Untitled.jpg (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/t8hol8bc/Untitled.jpg)

more
edges are a bit jagged again.
FEAR teh egg! :D

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/ry5r7r0/thumb/Untitled22.png (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/ry5r7r0/Untitled22.png)

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/o4sbcm71/thumb/test.jpg (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/o4sbcm71/test.jpg)

WTF a umbrella?

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/wzmqvmy7/thumb/WTF2.png (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/wzmqvmy7/WTF2.png)

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/bqobax20/thumb/wtf.jpg (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/bqobax20/wtf.jpg)

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 07:55 PM
Better to logos and such on vector drawing program, like InkScape or Illustrator. I like that design idea, looks cool.

Phait
03-30-2009, 08:27 PM
So you're asking people, some without any design experience - to design something for an entity that makes money (the amount isn't the issue, you sell albums yeah?) -- for free? See this (http://www.no-spec.com/articles/ten-reasons/) and this (http://www.no-spec.com/articles/what-is-spec/).

I would suggest hiring an experienced designer and getting a little consultation and concept down so you'll ultimately be satisfied.

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 08:31 PM
Sounds rational, but maybe it will inspire the thread starter on what exactly is he aiming for. The first post was really vague, and most people have just thrown ideas to the ring - not finished products.

Llama Gibbz
03-30-2009, 08:41 PM
If you look at metal band logos through out history,most of them you can tel they were a rip of another bands logo and font.

They either go with a artsy gothic font or something that looks sharp and pointy.
Sometimes a combination of both.

Phait
03-30-2009, 08:41 PM
Personally, I kind of like the rough idea that jimbob has, and Rider's - but it's not my project. I only believe it should go through a proper process. Nimoys idea has no real obvious thought behind it. Could it work? Yes, but it would need some tuning. It just comes across whipped up in PS in 5 minutes - and if it is, I wouldn't blame him - he's not being payed.

Now, I realise they're looking for a logo in the vein of NIN and doesn't require much concept at hand -- however, if you were to apply concept beforehand, get dozens of thumbnailed ideas on paper, and really think how it could be made interesting (look at ambigrams) -- you could have a killer symbol. I don't see anyone here doing that, but a professional designer would.

My intention isn't to come off as a prick, just giving insight and advice from a fellow designer.

Denz
03-30-2009, 08:53 PM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1981/dsfsdfs.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsfsdfs.jpg)

that's for the kicks

300 hours in paint

Phait
03-30-2009, 08:56 PM
That wouldn't even print very well in black-and-white (not grayscale) due to the gradients. You never know when you'd need to print just black, so it's best to start from there.

I like the shape though.

Llama Gibbz
03-30-2009, 08:59 PM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1981/dsfsdfs.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsfsdfs.jpg)

that's for the kicks

300 hours in paint

Hey i like that.
Too bad that could HAVE been 300 hrs,you could HAVE been paid.:(

Bludd
03-30-2009, 09:01 PM
Denz, that looks kinda Nazi/SS to me. :eek:

Could have, could have could have could have could have, Llama

Inanimate Carbon Rod
03-30-2009, 09:34 PM
my quick attempt... its a transparent png.
view image for white background
http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11238&d=1238467072

Inanimate Carbon Rod
03-30-2009, 09:47 PM
Something that is a bit beyond my ability is perhaps just a big "7" but with the edges heavily accented.

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 10:01 PM
--- My intention isn't to come off as a prick, just giving insight and advice from a fellow designer.

Are you a professional designer then? :)

Phait
03-30-2009, 10:03 PM
No I don't make a living on it, but after 7 years of it, I intend to.

peoplessi
03-30-2009, 10:23 PM
Well, my suggestion is to hire a professional designer :)

SpamViking
03-30-2009, 10:30 PM
Before I address all the extremely cool ideas you guys have displayed, I want to address Phait. I guess it's mainly the fact that I've been here for over 10 years & everyone (yourself included) has always been really cool about helping each other out. This is basically asking for a favor that could lead to some financial compensation if we use someone's submitted design. We're all still working day jobs in the band at this point, but should things take off for us, we remember everyone who helped us get there. It's pretty informal at this point, plus I know that there are some wicked artists here :)
On to these examples guys, these are pretty rad! I don't know where to begin!
Jimbob: kinda diggin the first one, has a Ministry vibe to it
peoplessi: the first 2 are pretty sweet...though a little too close to the nin logo. Still I do like the "E7" idea surrounded by a border of some sort.
Nessus: Very cool concept, a little refinement and that could be something. You've given me some ideas.
Llama: I'm really liking those, especially the ones lower down. Has a cool symbol/glyph vibe to it
Denz: good idea...might look better without the "o", & maybe a different font, but very cool concept.
ICR: dude, I've known you here for a long time so I appreciate the effort, but a little cartoony for my tastes. Thanks though brotha! :)
Thanks for these guys, I really appreciate it. Like I said, if we go with a design that you've submitted, we'll talk compensation. I will not use anything without written permission from the creator, I've been here long enough that you guys should know my character. Hell, I sent out free cd's when I started this thing :)
If you guys are interested, feel free to download our full CD here:
http://www.edgesofseven.com/radiodownload
Just a little thank you for your efforts!

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London: not bad, kinda Zeppelin-like, but cool combining of the letters.

Inanimate Carbon Rod
03-30-2009, 11:09 PM
probably still cartoony

yossa
03-31-2009, 07:13 AM
First of all this is not a place to be all "you should pay for designs!" Leave that to SA-Mart or other similar places. We help out of good will because we know people asking for help. Turning that into a customer-worker relationship is not going to work.

Here's my idea, I did it in about 10 minutes in Paint.NET and it's a little rough because it's not the perfect tool for such stuff. SpamViking, if you like it I can refine it in vectors and all that jazz.

http://i42.tinypic.com/jzbg4x.png http://i39.tinypic.com/2m5m0br.png

tarnsparent background (http://i39.tinypic.com/2zjgykm.png)

Steve
03-31-2009, 07:21 AM
I really like yossa's idea!

Denz
03-31-2009, 10:34 AM
yes the white on black is catchy

peoplessi
03-31-2009, 02:02 PM
That looks great, would be even better if the letters would run more in line with the 7 :)

SpamViking
03-31-2009, 02:49 PM
That's a cool concept Yossa, I might try it with some different fonts.
Here are a couple I came up with. 2 logos & 2 glyphs.
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/logo2.jpg
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/glyph.jpg
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/7glyph.jpg
thoughts?

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Definitely better ICR :)

wayskobfssae
03-31-2009, 03:01 PM
http://www.fragglerockforever.com/misc/7edges_letters.jpg
Black letters, 'forced' into the 7 shape a bit more.

http://www.fragglerockforever.com/misc/7edges_razors.jpg
This one is more of just a concept I was playing with... something edged, forming a 7. Any bladed object would work. I don't like it as a clip-art type of image but I think It'd look very nice if a photograph of it was planned out. Even if not as a logo, it might make for a cool album cover.

Llama Gibbz
03-31-2009, 03:39 PM
Altered celtic cross.

http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/wn96hgxu/thumb/Untitled.png (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/wn96hgxu/Untitled.png)
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/zmhq15hu/thumb/cross.jpg (http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/zmhq15hu/cross.jpg)

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That's a cool concept Yossa, I might try it with some different fonts.
Here are a couple I came up with. 2 logos & 2 glyphs.
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/logo2.jpg



I like where thats going.
Especially the 2nd one,clean,simple and catches the eye.

yossa
03-31-2009, 03:47 PM
That's a cool concept Yossa, I might try it with some different fonts.
Have at it :)
Here are a couple I came up with. 2 logos & 2 glyphs.
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/logo2.jpg
This one, while simple and effective, is quite similar in idea and style to the EOS symbol (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UZImdYAiry8/SOspPd3aqaI/AAAAAAAAInY/CBsnG8PKy1Y/s400/Canon_Eos_logo.png) of Canon camera line

Dopefish7590
03-31-2009, 03:51 PM
How about a simple "Edge" for "7"? I could do better if you like the idea.

http://ca.geocities.com/spam7590/edgeof7small.png

Edit: I see wayskobfssae already had shown the concept. :o

yossa
03-31-2009, 03:54 PM
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/glyph.jpg

I expanded on this idea:
http://i42.tinypic.com/160cy6o.png

http://i44.tinypic.com/155p8oh.png

SpamViking
03-31-2009, 05:15 PM
Stop hijacking my thread Altered.
Anyway, that's also a cool concept wayskobfssae, I like :)

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Llama, Yossa, wicked! Totally digging those!

Ironside
03-31-2009, 05:16 PM
I likes the music dude! :D

SpamViking
03-31-2009, 05:21 PM
Thanks Iron! Did you grab the full cd I posted the link to on the first page? It's a free download for you guys :)

Ironside
03-31-2009, 05:24 PM
Yes mate, I'm listening to it right now. I love this sort of industrial, very impressed!

peoplessi
03-31-2009, 05:25 PM
I see we are getting somewhere :)

ryche
03-31-2009, 05:39 PM
http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=343&pictureid=2785

My first try. I got a ton of ideas in my head but not enough time atm to really put them down.


One edit of it: some depth

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=343&pictureid=2787

Anyway, now I'm off this til I have more time but hopefully you'll get something Spam that you'll like.

Ya know...it looks kinda cool rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise so it looks more like the E...

Nessus
03-31-2009, 06:18 PM
Llama Gibbz and Ryche I really like those.

IwantMORE
03-31-2009, 06:32 PM
Something a little different...It's a good name I could play with these words all night...

wayskobfssae
03-31-2009, 07:10 PM
Something a little different...It's a good name I could play with these words all night...

I really like #2 (upper right).

Playing with a notch counting (or slash counting... whatever it's called) design.

http://www.fragglerockforever.com/misc/seven_notches.jpg

Kalki
04-01-2009, 10:54 AM
How about a simple "Edge" for "7"? I could do better if you like the idea.

http://ca.geocities.com/spam7590/edgeof7small.png

Edit: I see wayskobfssae already had shown the concept. :o

When I fist saw this thread, I thought of the Unreal Tournament (http://www.bagpipes.net/ut/UnrealTournamentLogo.jpg) logo for inspiration.

SpamViking
04-02-2009, 12:13 AM
Guys, you've all come up with some really amazing ideas, I'm blown away by the creativity...but not at all surprised. I'm gonna print out all the images here & show them to the band this weekend & see what they think. I'll update you then & we'll go from there. Feel free to keep posting any new ideas you come up with. As it stands we'll probably go with both a logo and a symbol/glyph. You've also given me a lot to work with, so I'm gonna be busy myself over the next few nights. Thanks again guys, I'm humbled by your talents & uber-coolness! :)

Daedolon
04-02-2009, 02:53 AM
http://edgesofseven.com/temp/glyph.jpg

That's very awesome, I'm always into simple futuristic corporation logo designs. :cool:

unforgiven
04-02-2009, 10:12 AM
This is my Cup :D

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11255&stc=1&d=1238685103

Rider
04-02-2009, 10:16 AM
This is my Cup :D

Woo, I like that!

SpamViking
04-02-2009, 11:20 AM
The bottom left one is very cool!

IwantMORE
04-09-2009, 09:52 AM
I'm gonna print out all the images here & show them to the band this weekend & see what they think. I'll update you then & we'll go from there.

When's the update due... Don't tell me WID ;)

Nimoy
04-13-2009, 08:20 PM
Personally, I kind of like the rough idea that jimbob has, and Rider's - but it's not my project. I only believe it should go through a proper process. Nimoys idea has no real obvious thought behind it. Could it work? Yes, but it would need some tuning. It just comes across whipped up in PS in 5 minutes - and if it is, I wouldn't blame him - he's not being payed.

I havent even posted in this thread. Seriously, you sound condescending. "OH youre degrading the art, better not do that!"

Its his band, leave'em alone.

First of all this is not a place to be all "you should pay for designs!" Leave that to SA-Mart or other similar places. We help out of good will because we know people asking for help. Turning that into a customer-worker relationship is not going to work.

Here's my idea, I did it in about 10 minutes in Paint.NET and it's a little rough because it's not the perfect tool for such stuff. SpamViking, if you like it I can refine it in vectors and all that jazz.

http://i42.tinypic.com/jzbg4x.png http://i39.tinypic.com/2m5m0br.png

tarnsparent background (http://i39.tinypic.com/2zjgykm.png)

I think this one rocks. Looks really like an 80's punk rock logo.

IwantMORE
04-14-2009, 10:40 AM
If you need any more inspiration check this out, there are some cool ideas here..

http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/inspiration/logo-design-trends-2009/

peoplessi
04-14-2009, 12:19 PM
http://www.logopond.com is another good source.

Jiminator
04-14-2009, 01:44 PM
I like Ryche's idea. This is a crappy mod using mspaint. I also don't believe it hurts to ask for advice, you pretty much get what you pay for, but as said it can help you to know what you want, or at least to learn what you don't like. And who the hell knows, maybe something good comes out of it.

SpamViking
04-17-2009, 09:43 PM
Many of these ideas are very cool & have inspired me to do some cool things myself. I'll upload them when I finish a few designs. Haven't had the band all together at a rehearsal for a couple of weeks, but we'll be back at it Sunday night. I'll get there opinions & share it here. Thanks again guys, you all rock!!

RedSplat
04-18-2009, 12:59 PM
http://www.redsplat.net/7logo.gif

:D

peoplessi
04-18-2009, 02:03 PM
That's cool :D

Llama Gibbz
04-18-2009, 02:05 PM
Lol genius

Dopefish7590
04-18-2009, 05:03 PM
Haha, that's original. :D