Bulletstorm - New game(ip) from People Can Fly

[predefined]

You can find the first scans over here (http://justadnauseum.tumblr.com/post/508863869/bulletstorm-scans-for-your-cheap-pleasure).

New food for speculation and anticipation! :D

Edit: Most scans appear to be taken down. Anyway here's a more detailed news release! (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178750)

[Kien]

I can't see any picutres. Is is about over-manly muscular dead serious faced space marines fighting grotesque super durable humanoid aliens? http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/741/1s37h7nd4.png

[MegaMustaine]

Download the file that is there. It contains the scans. And this game looks anything but generic.

[Damien_Azreal]

You can find the first scans over here (http://justadnauseum.tumblr.com/post/508863869/bulletstorm-scans-for-your-cheap-pleasure).

New food for speculation and anticipation! :D

Edit: Most scans appear to be taken down. Anyway here's a more detailed news release! (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3178750)

Actually this is a new IP from People Can Fly, the studio that developed Painkiller. Epic own People Can Fly, so... that's how Epic are getting some credit for this.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Download the file that is there. It contains the scans. And this game looks anything but generic.

Yeah.. it looks yellow. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7720/emotsmug.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Actually this is a new IP from People Can Fly, the studio that developed Painkiller. Epic own People Can Fly, so... that's how Epic are getting some credit for this.

Yes, although it is not a wholly owned subsidiary, "just" majority owned. Epic own a 55% stake in People Can Fly. So yeah that is majority owernship but there is still a significant minority holding in People Can Fly.

[Kien]

Actually this is a new IP from People Can Fly, the studio that developed Painkiller. Epic own People Can Fly, so... that's how Epic are getting some credit for this.
Does this mean Epic could make a proper sequel to Painkiller now?

[predefined]

Actually this is a new IP from People Can Fly, the studio that developed Painkiller. Epic own People Can Fly, so... that's how Epic are getting some credit for this.

Right! Thanks for correcting that. :)

I don't dislike the look from the game sofar. . The design seems fun and colorfull. If it plays like painkiller on a good looking (current gen) engine i'm fine with it. Awaiting first gameplay footage.

[Kristian Joensen]

Does this mean Epic could make a proper sequel to Painkiller now?

No People Can Fly never owned the Painkiller IP.

[Damien_Azreal]

Does this mean Epic could make a proper sequel to Painkiller now?

No People Can Fly never owned the Painkiller IP.

Kristian is correct. DreamCatcher owns the Painkiller IP.

[Kristian Joensen]

I should add, People Can Fly does own the Bulletstorm IP.

[Damien_Azreal]

Nice. :) I really like the visual style of the game. It's one that I'm definitely going to keep my eyes one. I loved Painkiller, and the follow up games in the series show that it was People Can Fly that made the game great.

[Sabarasa]

Was this the mistery title that was going to show up announced at some tv show by cliff blezinski?

[DerricktheW]

Nope Cliff is going to show off Gears of War 3 - fact.

[Another Duke Fan]

Was this the mistery title that was going to show up announced at some tv show by cliff blezinski?

Yes, this was it.

[Aegeri]

Yes, this was it.

No it wasn't that is and still will be Gears of War 3.

[MegaMustaine]

Epic is showing 2 games Monday night, so presumably this will be one of them unless Jobi says otherwise. ;)

[Jiminator]

necrovision is the spiritual sequel to painkiller. a lot of the original devs have migrated to other companies. I suspect if this game is successful that epic will own it, not PCF. but it looks really good.

[Another Duke Fan]

Epic is showing 2 games Monday night, so presumably this will be one of them unless Jobi says otherwise. ;)

Precisely.

[Damien_Azreal]

No it wasn't that is and still will be Gears of War 3.

Cliffy was going to debut both Bulletstorm and Gears 3. But a leak of information about Gears 3 beat him to the punch.

necrovision is the spiritual sequel to painkiller. a lot of the original devs have migrated to other companies. I suspect if this game is successful that epic will own it, not PCF. but it looks really good.

Yes, NecroVisioN is made by a majority of the original Painkiller team. A portion of the original PCF studio left, joined with members of the old 2015 Studios (MoH:AA) they developed NecroVisioN.
I wouldn't consider it a spiritual sequel to Painkiller... it's more like a combination of Painkiller and MoH. But that's just me. It was a fun game, but had a lot of problems.

I am very interested for more details on Bulletstorm, now with this announcement... I could care less about Gears 3. :p

[predefined]

Hey guys i just came across the first official screens (http://www.joystiq.com/photos/bulletstorm-xbox-360-ps3-pc/#2944182).

I really dig the visual style actually! :cool:

[SpinX]

Hey guys i just came across the first official screens (http://www.joystiq.com/photos/bulletstorm-xbox-360-ps3-pc/#2944182).

I really dig the visual style actually! :cool:

looks a bit zeno clash-ish

[Sabarasa]

Is it me or is Earth No More in serious trouble?

[MegaMustaine]

Is it me or is Earth No More in serious trouble?

Earth No More is no longer in production to my knowledge. Radar pulled funding and stopped production a while ago.

[Gryph]

This game jumped way up to the top of my watch list. I'm in the mood for a nonserious FPS.

[crunchy superman]

Trailer.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/54793/People-Can-Fly-Release-First-Bulletstorm-Trailer

Could be fun. Seeing as PCF built it, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Damien_Azreal]

Man... that looks awesome. :D

[Jiminator]

wow, that looks good as hell. next year, a long wait.... :D

looks like there may be some depth in terms of upgrades

also looks like they are doing some stuff similar to necrovision
in terms of combos and kicks. probably nothing else the same

but end result, ME WANT....

[JobivanHiob]

CliffyB describes Bullet Storm as a mixture of Burnout and Duke Nukem!

OMG can't wait for this game!!!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/cliff-bleszinski-bulletstorm/100173

[Nihilanth]

I don't like this one bit. The only good thing about this vid is Nine Inch Nails song (Wish).

[Damien_Azreal]

Care to elaborate as to why you don't like it?

Personally, I love it. It looks like the kind of shooter I've been wanting for a long time now. And coming from the guys that made Painkiller... oh hell yes.

[superevilcube]

This game definitely just moved it's up to the top of my wish list!

[Nihilanth]

Care to elaborate as to why you don't like it?

I've watched the trailer three times and there's not a single thing that stuck in my mind. The bright art style and non-serious tone reminds me of Serious Sam which puts me off. Huge pop-up icons are annoying even in those short scenes. Bottom line it seems like totally not my kind of game because I feel like I'm complaining about selling points. I don't know why but this kind of not-so-serious games just doesn't appeal to me. Borderlands as well, I hated trailers for that game.

I love Painkiller so I might not give up on this one just yet. But so far it's just completely meh to me.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, off topic but you missed possibly the best game released last year by skipping out on Borderlands. But, your loss.

As for Bulletstorm... yeah, it's not realistic or serious... but that is what is so awesome about it. Were every damn game now is dark, and monotone in color... it's all... crouch, and aim while taking cover... and blah, blah, blah.
It's so refreshing to see a game that doesn't take itself seriously... that is meant to be incredibly over the top and just fun.

[Lethe]

That impressed me far more then any of DNF media. Looks pretty good. I would get rid off those giant pop-up messages, though.

[DerricktheW]

That trailer was ******* awesome. Finally, a game that's not an ode to Brown or Gray.

Some of the kills look awesome, like the very last one with that guy struggling with what looks like a plant that acts like a snake, curls around limbs, then explodes. xD

[dukeonly]

the trailer looks awesome as hell, the engine almost looks modern warfarish


any idea what engine it uses? when does it come out?

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That impressed me far more then any of DNF media. Looks pretty good. I would get rid off those giant pop-up messages, though.

what made d3d good was the level design and anticipation

who honestly knows if dnf will be any good or if the story will match up, the engine could very well just be the only one they could get their hands on

[Damien_Azreal]

Bulletstorm uses the Unreal Engine 3.
Since People Can Fly are owned by Epic, that should have been common knowledge.

Please don't compare this awesome looking game to the mehness that was MW2. This game looks to be SO much more than that.

And, release is early 2011, Cliffy stated that in the interview posted above.

[predefined]

Turns out it looks like to become something really cool!! From the info we got so far it seems to be what i was expecting\hoping for and more then that!

I really dig the style of mad plants and funky architecture.:D

[Paroxysm]

Looks fantastic.

[DerricktheW]

So Gears 3 AND Bulletstorm come out the same general time frame (Q1 2011)?

[SpinX]

looks like this can get boring very quickly... I'll pass

[Gryph]

Looks like the type of game I'm really in the mood for these days!

[Jiminator]

Nihilanth, how can you not have played borderlands? I mean I have frequently ripped the company a new one based on the PC support but the game itself is awesome. Probably one of the most fun ones I played the past year, up until bad company 2 came out....

[Parkar]

That trailer was ******* awesome. Finally, a game that's not an ode to Brown or Gray.

Some of the kills look awesome, like the very last one with that guy struggling with what looks like a plant that acts like a snake, curls around limbs, then explodes. xD

It's two grenades with a chain between them. You shoot if from a grenade launcher type weapon. The grenades can also stick to things so you can fire it so one of them sticks to the corner of a wall while the other swings around the corner. Seems there are a bunch of inventive kills you can do with it.

[Sang]

I already like it if only because they used Nine Inch Nails music :love:

[Nihilanth]

Well, off topic but you missed possibly the best game released last year by skipping out on Borderlands. But, your loss.

As for Bulletstorm... yeah, it's not realistic or serious... but that is what is so awesome about it. Were every damn game now is dark, and monotone in color... it's all... crouch, and aim while taking cover... and blah, blah, blah.
It's so refreshing to see a game that doesn't take itself seriously... that is meant to be incredibly over the top and just fun.

Nihilanth, how can you not have played borderlands? I mean I have frequently ripped the company a new one based on the PC support but the game itself is awesome. Probably one of the most fun ones I played the past year, up until bad company 2 came out....

How many times have I heard that I've missed the best / one of the best games of the year. The point is it didn't appeal to me enough. I can't afford to buy every game that interests me and this one was pretty low on my list.

It's subjective. I'm not bashing the game by any means. But if something puts me off, I will probably not enjoy it. Take GTA4. I've heard the game got an amazing response. But that doesn't matter. I don't like the theme and the style so the gameplay doesn't matter, it's just not my thing. Another example, Batman: Arkham Asylum. Everyone was praising it... but I'm not a huge Batman (and third-person view) fan. That's enough. Sure, if I had it or got a chance to play it (or Borderlands), perhaps I'd change my mind but what I've seen is not enough to make me buy it. Maybe that's stupid but the bottom line is if I don't like (for instance) gangsta theme, the game can have the most revolutionary gameplay ever. I'm still not gonna enjoy it. With Borderlands it's different because it's not putting me off that much. But even with a pretty good idea of what the game is, I'm not sold.

Another thing is that I'm rarely wrong on skipping certain games. I just know what appeals to me. There were countless times I've been "finally" playing this or that game that was praised by everyone. Usually, after that I was happy I didn't waste my money on it.

[Sang]

Don't worry about it Nihilanth, if it's not for you then it's not for you amirite

[TBZ]

No, he has to like exactly the same games I like, god dammit! :tinyted::mad:

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

But all the games you like suck. :(

[TBZ]

Yeah, Duke Nukem 3D is pretty crap. :cool:

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Yeah.

It was good for it's time, but now it is such a crappy game.

[Paroxysm]

Oh no! If I like Bulletstorm does that mean I might be Hitler?

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

It's possible. :)

[Hudson]

So.. it's Borderlands without the slick art style?

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

It's like if Gears of War and Borderlands had a baby... and it was yellow.

[Jiminator]

uh, I don't see much in common with borderlands here really. A few bonus points indicators is totally different from what is shown in borderlands. BL has 4 person coop, skills are upgradeable but not weapons, for weapons you can only find better ones. The numbers there are damage indicators, elemental guns cause cumulative recurring damage.

[8IronBob]

Ahh yeah, they were talking about this game over at the Beyond Unreal forums, sounds like it should be quite an interesting use of Unreal Tech. Looking forward to it.

[MegaMustaine]

uh, I don't see much in common with borderlands here really. A few bonus points indicators is totally different from what is shown in borderlands. BL has 4 person coop, skills are upgradeable but not weapons, for weapons you can only find better ones. The numbers there are damage indicators, elemental guns cause cumulative recurring damage.

I think they are referring to the look of the game and not the actual gameplay itself. The game does have a bit of a BL look to it.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well both games are built on the UE3, and pretty much every game on the engine has a similar look to it visually. It's the one big fault of the engine, you look at the game and can instantly tell it's an UE3 title.

But other than that, there's no reason or sense in comparing the two titles. This game is more comparable to Painkiller and NecroVisioN. Specially since this looks to take a lot of what NecroVisioN "tried" to do with various combo moves, finishing moves and melee attacks to speed up the combat.
In Necrovision these features were fun, but not really needed and actually held the combat back since they didn't really flow smoothly in with the gunplay.

[MegaMustaine]

I don't think BL looked very UE3 at all. I think the art style did a wonderful job of making it not look UE3.

[X-Vector]

Well both games are built on the UE3, and pretty much every game on the engine has a similar look to it visually. It's the one big fault of the engine, you look at the game and can instantly tell it's an UE3 title.


Really?

I'm not a big fan of the way a lot of games look these days, but for instance Mass Effect and Mirror's Edge have shown that it's possible to use UE3 and create a visually appealling product without the bloom, bleach, ugly shadows, grime, fuzz, blandness, superfluous detail and colour uniformity that plagues the competition (as in e.g. the Gears of War games).

[Damien_Azreal]

Mirror's Edge does suffer from having the fugly shadows that plaque UE3 games. Specially self shadowing on your character model and other characters.

[DerricktheW]

You also have some fugly hands that when up against a wall, you can see just how ugly they are.

[Morbid]

yet it doesn't look similar...

[X-Vector]

Mirror's Edge does suffer from having the fugly shadows that plaque UE3 games.

You mean it doesn't actually look like this (http://monstervine.com/wp-content/2008/07/mirrors-edge-1.jpg)?

Haven't played the game myself (nor the others I mentioned), I'm just going by screenshots.

[Morbid]

^Mirror's Edge has easily the most realistic and impressive graphics to date. The quality of the textures and the lighting is insane.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, it does look like that... and in that screen you can see a tiny bit of what I'm talking about (the right leg, the shadows... have lines in them). When up against walls and such it's much easier to see... and it's really easy to see on other characters.

Wouldn't go that far, Mirror's Edge looks great for environments. But the character models... not so much. But, I'd say it's one of the best looking games using the UE3, but it's not the most realistic or best looking game ever made.

[Morbid]

which is it then?

[Sang]

Why, Unreal, of course!

[Damien_Azreal]

Currently? The standard to beat for visuals and technical abilities is still Crysis. While I don't like the game personally (love the first four levels, everything after that... pfft)... I can't deny the achievement in visuals. After that I'd say Metro 2033 does a damn good job at times. There are areas that look rather... meh, and the character models are lacking. But it's an impressive game visually.

Hell, Bad Company 2 looks better than most Unreal Engine 3 games.

But hell, I'm sick of games looking ultra realistic. Tis why BulletStorm looks so damn awesome. :D

[X-Vector]

Achievements in graphics don't mean much to me if the game looks boring, which Crysis does in my eye.

Bulletstorm just seems "off", somehow the visual design just isn't believable to me (which isn't the same thing as real-world realistic).
The bloom overdose doesn't help either.

[Twig]

RockPaperShotgun.com has a new and lengthy video of Bulletstorm gameplay.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/06/15/you-scared-the-dick-off-me-bulletstorm/

It's stupid, simple and loud. In a glorious way!

I was never a painkiller fan but this looks awesome, I think nobody can deny the awesomeness of that giant wheel at the end of the video :)

[Kalki]

Does look like fun!

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

You scared the dick off me! :mad:

[ZuljinRaynor]

This game is so DICK!

[crunchy superman]

I couldn't understand what the dick was going on half the time.

[Aegeri]

I may not know much about dick, but one thing I do know is that I'm keen on this game now I've seen more of it.

Looks like great fun.

[LastBNLNinja]

There is a trailer for it on PSN, I thought it was XBox exclusive?

[Paroxysm]

Bulletstorm's dick is tremendous.

[MegaMustaine]

There is a trailer for it on PSN, I thought it was XBox exclusive?

No. It is coming to PS3, 360, and PC. That last one will get a few people excited around here.

[Steve]

This thread is so dick.

[Damien_Azreal]

There is a trailer for it on PSN, I thought it was XBox exclusive?

It's coming to PC, 360 and PS3.

[8IronBob]

Just so long as the PC version's not a port, like Gears of War was (assuming People Can Fly is a division of Epic).

[Damien_Azreal]

Just so long as the PC version's not a port, like Gears of War was (assuming People Can Fly is a division of Epic).

What's wrong with a port?
People seem to get this wrong constantly. Being a port is not the problem. It's the overall quality of the port that matters.
If the company puts the time and money into it... a port can shine better than a PC exclusive can.

And yes, People Can Fly did the PC port of Gears of War, and it was a perfectly fine port. The only issues with it were Windows LIVE being in such an early state it was a mess, and it dragged down the game.

As for Bulletstorm, PCF have said they love the PC platform and will giving it as much attention as possible.

[Paroxysm]

What's wrong with a port?

Nothing. As long as the port isn't dick. But I don't think it will be. I'm dick sure of it.

[Damien_Azreal]

Dick, dick and more dick in this thread.

[Steve]

Stop being a dick.

[Another Duke Fan]

Dick, dick and more dick in this thread.

Dickstorm?

[Paroxysm]

Wall to wall dick carpeting

Bulletstorm looks great though. It just looks like a joy to play.

[crunchy superman]

As for Bulletstorm, PCF have said they love the PC platform and will giving it attention whenever Epic says it's ok.

Dixed.

[Damien_Azreal]

Don't.
Don't "fix" what I say to make it "funneh". It's... annoying.

[crunchy superman]

Geez, lighten up, man. PCF develops as Epic permits them - nothing "funneh" about it.

[Gryph]

The game looks fun but I have realized that I have (unfortunately, perhaps) matured where the absolutely terrible writing puts me off enough to not want to play the game.

[8IronBob]

Whew...ain't 'bout to go there.

[Damien_Azreal]

Geez, lighten up, man. PCF develops as Epic permits them - nothing "funneh" about it.

Oh I'm fine. But, I've never liked anyone "fixing" my posts because I know what I mean and what I want to say.
If you want to say that you feel Epic are pulling strings here... then say it for yourself. Don't change what I say to do it.

And yes, Epic own PCF. But... PCF are being permitted to develop this game how they want. Epic are producing the game, in the same way 3DRealms produced Max Payne.
They supply testing, quality assurance.... and some insight into what PCF create. And EA are supplying funding... so, Epic actually has very little actual "pull" on the title.

[Aegeri]

The game looks fun but I have realized that I have (unfortunately, perhaps) matured where the absolutely terrible writing puts me off enough to not want to play the game.

Bear in mind that Epic gave us some of the most mind bendingly horrible dialogue in Gears of War 2. I mean, they're sinking cities USING A GIANT WORM!!!

I appreciate it actually for how bad it can get. I don't try to excuse it, but as long as shooting things is fun (the main point) then I can live with it.

[ZuljinRaynor]

This game is dick! :cool:

[X-Vector]

"Dick in the hole 150+".

Well, that's what it should have said.

[Karthik]

New dev diary, just love it when I see a blonde swearing:
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/58397/Awesome-Sauce-Bulletstorm-Dev-Diary

[Morbid]

this is entertaining :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkNskXnd4so&feature=player_detailpage

oh and specs are out...

edit: and a kinda old but very interesting and informative interview with the trio http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/04/21/when-epic-met-people-can-fly.aspx

Adrian Chmielarz is a cool dude heh