far cry compared to crysis

[dukeonly]

does crysis have the same engine that keeps track of and changes time of day? I think those crytek guys are obsessed with their idea that their engine presents everything for them nad makes them the best video game producer anywhere


anyway, i guess they are millionaire geek tech guys. Lol it takes quite a few. anyway, so yeah, anyway aside from that it is ingenius technology, and shows off the engine really well, i think crysis story sucked, but never really played the game i guess.

far cry 2 seems to have a real in depth environment and story in the game, which gets a bit repetitive at first, but i hear actually picks up after 40%, i'm only at 20%, and geez does it take a bit of time.


i think thats why i loved d3d so much, it had some pretty damn immersive elements for being the game it was, i mean you go to the moon, subway, it was brilliant. Now all types of games are putting people on mars, in cities, like left 4 dead and red faction. And those are the best games, no one saying d3d sucks. But I wonder what they all took to make the game they made the first time, it was real bad ass. The final fantasies have started to suck, and chrono trigger was the only good one in series. anyway, i'm getting off topic here.

sorry, ok: crysis vs far cry aspects. And compare them with other games if you want, but not off topic like i did, just to make a comparison that works:

:D

[ZuljinRaynor]

Far Cry 2 sucks. It has nothing to do with the original Far Cry.

[NutWrench]

Far Cry doesn't have realtime time-of-day effects but you can change the angle and intensity of the sun in the editor and recompile. Once you set your lighting, though, you're stuck with it. In Crysis, it's all done in real time. You can move the time-of-day slider in the editor and watch the sun come up, go across the sky and set.

I thought Far Cry 2 sucked rather badly. The story was completely cliched. The mercenary angle has been done to death in other games. At least Far Cry was loosely based on H.G. Wells Island of Dr Moreau.

[dukeonly]

well.....

i thought far cry 2 was bad ass, but got really repetative at times


does crysis have a night time zone?

and im sure if far cry 1 was better, that far cry 2 still is good even in comparison it's still alright


i love swimming in the river in far cry 2 at sunset


and i mean if nothing else the real time is ******* bad ass



why do so few games use this real time feature?

because i dont think far cry 2 is my favorite game, but it's up there, along with a few others


i think that cod1 open map with the real time sun position would have been bad ass even if it was open ended, exept i dont know if the story could have been as open ended, since world war 2 was historical, and therefore that would have been inaccurate


of course, as far as inaccuracies go, in so many moh and cod games there is at least one mission where they throw historical accuracy out the window, not so much in the moh games as in the cod ones

[Sabarasa]

Your first post is so full of contradicction...

[dukeonly]

sorry

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ok how about this, as a good strong supporting statement for far cry 2

does crysis have the open ended story that far cry does? what is the point of large world exploration if it's close ended?

although i think a cod game would be bad ass if it was open map the way bad company was

but even bad company as an open map game had it's restrictions since most of the time you were following one path

[Kit]

I thought Far Cry 2 sucked rather badly. The story was completely cliched. The mercenary angle has been done to death in other games. At least Far Cry was loosely based on H.G. Wells Island of Dr Moreau.

I enjoyed the gameplay, but the story made no sense. You watched everyone die about half way through, then at the end they all came back to life with no explanation as to how they managed to survive.

[dukeonly]

wow, that spoiled it for me. I'm still trying to get the second bottle of pills to counteract the malaria

lol so no explanation on how they come back to life?

maybe i should buy the first one, just doesn't look as advanced to me

[ZuljinRaynor]

Far Cry 1 is Crysis without the suit or Koreans. It's a dude in a Hawaiian shirt fighting mercs and then mutants.

[Jiminator]

original far cry was awesome, if you could find the rocket launching snipers. crysis and FC2 were big disappointments after all the build up. I am really hoping Crysis:NY to break the streak.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Crysis is much better than the original Far Cry though cause it's not full of BS enemies and AI like FC.

[Kit]

Sorry, Duke.

There‘s another twist right at the end (the part I mentioned is about 90% -95% through) but it really wasn’t to my tastes. Though to be fair, even with the crap story I still had a lot of fun upgrading the weapons and finding the right balance for each mission - Sniper rifle, flamethrower, and silencer were the ones I opted for most of the time.

[dukeonly]

yeah... i like the carl g rocket launcher, the uzi, and the sniper rifle, i believe there is a ws2000 in the game or whatever you call that.

but yeah, never played the first far cry, i should look that up i guess


never played crysis either

and don't worry about the twist, i know in the end i hear you end up working with the jackal and then you blow yourself up with him and the end is a hanger you don't know if either of you died.. lol


still worst games have come out, and the graphics are amazing



i used to think goldeneye was the best game ever, i beat it entirely on 007 got to the aztec crap and blahblah blah:doh:

now i played it so many times cant stand to look at it, opinions vary


peace

[Damien_Azreal]

FarCry 2... horrid game. An absolute and complete disappointment, possibly one of the biggest letdowns I've seen in a long time. And it is so because you can see a TON of potential in the game.
But the developers just fall on their faces and seem to completely miss it. Very sad.

Crysis... very rough around the edges. A good concept, but put to poor execution. The first three or four levels I absolutely love... but after that, pass. Hopefully Crysis 2 does better.... but I'm not banking on it.

[Kit]

The whole ‘passing through unstable areas/checkpoints’ part could have been intense, but instead of figuring out how to get the AI to interrogate you, they chose to take the easy route and have it shoot anything that moves; which makes ZERO sense when you’re on a mission to get first aid for the people shooting at you.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, making EVERY single person outside the city or small safe zone fire at you instantly killed the world IMO. When you drive around, and every one that sees you tries to kill you... it doesn't feel like a living world... it feels fake.

Throw in respawning enemies (that respawn in like 15 seconds) and it just drags it down further. That fact that every mission is basically go to point A, get mission... to to point B... kill person OR get phone call to go to point C and kill other person instead. Then back to point A... yay. :rolleyes:

There is so much potential in the game... from the solid graphics, really satisfying combat (minus the crappy weapons that break after about ten minutes of use) and wide open game world... they just didn't make use of what they had. And it kills me to see so many possibilities just fall flat.

[Jiminator]

Crysis is much better than the original Far Cry though cause it's not full of BS enemies and AI like FC.
eh, disagree, I tried playing through crysis twice, warhead once. just so boring I just stopped playing. such a beautiful game engine, and they pretty much could not figure out how to make a fun game with it.

[dukeonly]

lol you people are so picky, posting at a 3d realms forum


funny enough... the first time i played d3d it was the best game i ever played, then every time i played it after that it was boring as crap

then like 3 or 4 years later, it became basically one of my favorite games again...


but opinions aside, because i am liking far cry 2, and actually don't understand people coming back to life, because didn't we hide them in the church? well, so far it's pretty bad ass. Like people have said though, it slows down a bit because i can't tell who is on which side exept at the actual mission itself because of course I have memorized who is on the opposite side, but yeah it's basically a fps rpg


and considering i think its the first fps rpg ive ever really played, and the environments are really nice and feel extremely real, the birds, rocks, rivers, trees etc. i'm really liking it


but yes, maybe it could have been better. All places aside i think d3d is one hell of a game, because of it's pace, and because it gives you a storyline where you only see cutscenes, never characters, exept the aliens, but you explore empty cities and space stations exept you kill the enemies, and basically the story paints itself


so sure, without a solid story and good pacing, any game no matter how nice the graphics is going to lack

but technology wise, the graphics are awesome, and well.... here is to what the future holds


now just like how LIFE has some nice graphics, it's up to you what you do and don't appreciate in terms of story and art


but whatever, still a classic moment to me in technology history has been playing this game and swimming in the river and messing with the time of day etc.


plus it makes me think twice about how screwed up things are for people in certain places in africa
peace

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i would love to see what infinity ward could have done with the crytek engine if they hadn't yet made cod1 and were still thinking of making a war game


of course, who knows, lol maybe they were cheap and would have just stuck with quake 3, hah

[Kalki]

eh, disagree, I tried playing through crysis twice, warhead once. just so boring I just stopped playing. such a beautiful game engine, and they pretty much could not figure out how to make a fun game with it.

I couldn't play through Far Cry no matter what I tried. Manic AI enemies, broken stealth, level designer proclivity for instant death-traps that belies the "open-ended design", weak weapon sounds, story that's a a poor moreau ripoff, etc. all just prompted me to give the game away. Beating one's head against a wall like that game made me do isn't fun.

[ZuljinRaynor]

eh, disagree, I tried playing through crysis twice, warhead once. just so boring I just stopped playing. such a beautiful game engine, and they pretty much could not figure out how to make a fun game with it.

Crysis, while it was boring at times, at least was not broken like Far Cry was.

[Commando Nukem]

I enjoyed the begining of the original Far Cry, didnt much care for it after the first few levels.

Havent played Far Cry 2, but I was pretty bored with the enviorment after all the other modern themed shooters and Resident Evil 5.

I actually really like Crysis, its like a remake of Contra in a lot of ways. The only thing that really bugged me about Crysis was the ending of the game seemed like such a bullshit franchising-esque move. Give me a damn ending.

[dukeonly]

you know........

i guess money makes a person damn lazy, lol wish i had that problem


i didnt know that crysis was actually developed by the same people that developed far cry, i thought it just used the same engine


lol well i haven't actually played it yet, but from what i hear about the story being boring, and the fact that it looks like the ONLY gameplay ENTIRELY takes place on an island, lol i'm guessing they stopped giving a shit


i mean they really like islands, it seems original at first, but far cry takes place on an island, crysis does as well, it looks like crysis 2 does also, exept they throw new york in there, which seems nice... maybe it'll work out better, but who knows maybe not i guess who knows


anyway, i love the interactivity of the game engine, i really expect it to be used more, i'm guessing a lot of other game companies are fairly lazy, huh?


that crytek engine would make the best war time realistic weapon shooter if they modified it out etc.


of course i don't know, maybe the 256 bit gaming system can only handle so much memory being thrown into the graphics, you have to understand, if consoles could do anything, then we would have been doing this back with the nes


i mean, there is a reason it takes more to make more, but still, we are doing some insane crap with what we have now, if game companies keep trying to make good games like it seems they have, hopefully we'll get our money's worth for the system


well, anyway ok thanks for replying

[Paroxysm]

Stop talking.

[Sang]

Am I the only person in this thread who enjoyed the living shit out of Far Cry from beginning to end, multiple times? The first, that is. Didn't care much for FC2 either. It was fun at first but I got bored at some point.. There is a quest that has you approach a castle and steal a ring or something though, that was pretty badass. But apart from that.. meh!

Crysis I enjoyed as well although it was a lot easier than FC.

[Damien_Azreal]

I also enjoyed the first FarCry. Yes, the mutants were a bit annoying at times... and the end level was incredibly poorly balanced. But I found the game to be pretty enjoyable all the way through.

FarCry 2 on the other hand is a complete pile. I've tried three different times to get into it... and each time I last an hour (maybe two) before stopping, uninstalling... and hating myself for a few hours for spending fifty dollars on it.

[Sang]

Yes, the mutants were a bit annoying at times...

That just made me want to let the suckers pay :p ("you damn annoying mutants i will have my vengeance i will kill you all")

[NutWrench]

There were a few levels where you could lure the Trigens back to a minigun.
I also loved the second-to-last level. If you made it to the crashed chopper, you could unload a ton of hot lead on them.

[dukeonly]

well, i don't know how bad it is compared to 'other games' but this game to me is damn challenging and damn fun


it's hard, i'll give you that, but blowing up pipelines, assasinating war officials in a country in africa fighting over money and square yards and etc. has been bad ass, it might not be the best, but it's damn worth $30, and it's going in my top 25 games..
maybe there are better, but you guys are posting at a forum for duke 3d? that game sure is old, there has to be appreciation here for value and time put into something


anyway one thing i'm having trouble with is using the mortars. I can get them to fire the smoke flare, but not the mortars after that. really weird, trying to figure this out

[Jiminator]

most of the people that post here have known each other for years and have played a lot of the same games at the same time. so yeah, we talk pretty much about everything.

[slapnutz]

There were a few levels where you could lure the Trigens back to a minigun.
I also loved the second-to-last level. If you made it to the crashed chopper, you could unload a ton of hot lead on them.

Loved that Chopper bit to.

One thing I liked about FC more than Crysis was it was a bit more open in its level design.

[Jiminator]

lol, crysis was an open corridor shooter... :)

[Delicieuxz]

Crysis, while it was boring at times, at least was not broken like Far Cry was.

My Far Cry wasn't broken. Far Cry >>> Crysis, imo. Pier is one of my favorite levels of any game, ever.

[dukeonly]

well apparently they are making a far cry 3

i think the story for the first one sounds bad ass since it is based on island of dr monroe right? sounds like it, stranded on island, vivisection type animals found, etc.

the second one is kick ass because of the fact that it exposes some true story scenario unnamed, and really has some realism behind the way a lot of crap happens over there, i wouldn't be suprised if this is mostly a true story, with some major exagerations, and all the names changed, i don't believe there is an apr or an nflp in africa anywhere, but i could be wrong


far cry 3 though? idk who knows it might suck, considering that crysis 2 looks kind of like a cheap rip off of the first crysis, and crysis looks like a forced production tech demo front continuation of far cry with different story and settings just to make another billion for whats his name cevat yerli


but anyway, hopefully we get some more 'classic book type games'
which there have been a few already, right? yeah, sure have in a way

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and to be honest not to be negative but......

isn't crysis kind of a rip off of far cry with a better story and improved engine?

LOL, i mean island island island, i love the idea, but seriously wtf is up with recycling that?

cevat yerli have that brilliant idea to make another 100 mil? lol

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and to be honest not to be negative but......

isn't crysis kind of a rip off of far cry with a better story and improved engine?

LOL, i mean island island island, i love the idea, but seriously wtf is up with recycling that?

cevat yerli have that brilliant idea to make another 100 mil? lol

[SpinX]

far cry 2 and realism in the same sentence makes me puke... as Damien already stated, far cry 2 had a lot of issues, also I think the original far cry had more tech demo feeling than crysis... far cry isn't really a franchise, it isn't even a game style (because of the big difference between the two...) the only thing i think about when thinking of the name far cry, is graphics...

and if you did your homework, you know that crysis 2 isn't limited to an island, it is set in New York...

Crysis can barely be seen as an recycled far cry...

[slapnutz]

Crysis, while it was boring at times, at least was not broken like Far Cry was.

Define broken?

.... because you must mean gameplay wise since it was solid techincally wise. Why?..well recently I was running Far Cry with a real frankenstein setup...

1) The latest patch

2) The AMD64 bit patch (designed for AMD64 cpus and WinXP 64bit) on my Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 and Vista 64bit.

3) AMD64 bit Content Update patch ..... once again running on an Intel 64bit CPU and Vista 64

... didnt have a single crash. Also never crashed when I played it originally on my older 32bit Amd64/Xp32bit rig.

[ZuljinRaynor]

My Far Cry wasn't broken. Far Cry >>> Crysis, imo. Pier is one of my favorite levels of any game, ever.

Define broken?

.... because you must mean gameplay wise since it was solid techincally wise. Why?..well recently I was running Far Cry with a real frankenstein setup...

1) The latest patch

2) The AMD64 bit patch (designed for AMD64 cpus and WinXP 64bit) on my Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 and Vista 64bit.

3) AMD64 bit Content Update patch ..... once again running on an Intel 64bit CPU and Vista 64

... didnt have a single crash. Also never crashed when I played it originally on my older 32bit Amd64/Xp32bit rig.

Mine was. Enemies are sponges, you aren't. AI is sometimes retarded and doesn't know where you are after you shot him in the face with a full magazine and then hid in bushes infront of him to reload, but other times they know where you are if you so much as breath. They snipe you with rockets and don't forget where you are even though they were like a mile away from you when you shot them with the sniper.

No crashes, no performance trouble ever.

[Sang]

Pier is one of my favorite levels of any game, ever.

High five! That view you have of the jungle and the base after getting atop that hill.. I remember it to this day. It was as impressive as Unreal.


Crysis can barely be seen as an recycled far cry...

I'd say it is largely the same as Far Cry but with some of the rough edges cut off. But those rough edges also gave the first game some charm IMO (that always sounds weird doesn't it)

[dukeonly]

damn, no one appreciates authenticity?

i mean whether you think far cry 1 and 2 were good games or not, you have to appreciate that they put a lot into it, some people couldn't care less about the crap game they make or not

at least there was a story

and for ai far cry 2 was pretty good, exept the same faction shooting at you no matter what wasn't, and the flare didn't work, and the mortars were extremely limited, and yes it got repetative


but look how far we've come since final fantasy 6, i mean final fantasy 6 to me is the baddest ass game ever, better than chrono trigger, etc. of course it'll make you a loser sitting there 12 hours a day playing it, why not go read a book


but far cry 2 was innovative, it combined rpg elements, extremely life like environment with sunset mountains jungle terrain, so did crysis


but as far as story goes, yes, crysis was recycled far cry 1, jungle, and even though crysis 2 is set in new york, let's hope they don't recycle the 'stranded on an island' theme


i guess honestly though they are all better games than some trash

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High five! That view you have of the jungle and the base after getting atop that hill.. I remember it to this day. It was as impressive as Unreal.



I'd say it is largely the same as Far Cry but with some of the rough edges cut off. But those rough edges also gave the first game some charm IMO (that always sounds weird doesn't it)


i kind of agree, but yeah, i guess we can appreciate it for what it's worth, right? we could still be playing super mario world if the corporations wanted, they could still be selling it, we wouldn't have to have anything


lol technology helps people, and the corps make their money off of it
so really we can appreciate the authenticity of people who want to make something which is better than nothing what so ever


as far as replay goes, yeah, a long drawn out thing is going to get old after awhile, never tried far cry 2 multiplayer, so wouldn't know if that is fun without the story

[Johnnien]

Here is an interesting article looking at FC2. It gives some details regarding the AI for FC2. http://gamedeveloper.texterity.com/gamedevelopersample/200903?pg=33#pg32

[Hudson]

I guess I'll chime in:

Far Cry: I liked a lot. Had a genuine B-rated "popcorn" action movie charm about it, nothing to really take seriously but getting to ram a jeep into a propane tank surrounded by mercs was a lot of fun. The graphics also beat Doom 3 out the door by about six months which was cool. Multiplayer was fun for the first three months people actually played it.

Far Cry 2: Not developed by Crytek. Extremely boring and bland, I couldn't bring myself to care about the main character, the quest, the side missions, or pretty much anything. Fire effects were cool I'll hand it that, but overall the game was GTA: Africa without the "fun". Multiplayer sucked ass, as well as pretty much the entire game.

Crysis: What I imagine Crytek wanted to do with the original Far Cry but didn't have [insert things here] to accomplish. The story wasn't groundbreaking however the gameplay was absolutely fantastic, taking what they created in Far Cry and "taking it to eleven". Warhead was a more compressed romp with a stronger story and more of the same great action of the original game. Multiplayer, while fun I feel was a bit confused on what it wanted to do.

I guess we'll just have to see where Crytek takes us next with it's concrete jungle idea.

[Sang]

even though crysis 2 is set in new york, let's hope they don't recycle the 'stranded on an island' theme

Huh?

Ohhh wait you mean recycle the "let the player feel isolated" theme but that's just what drives most games ever made.

[Hudson]

Yeah, even with companion AI most SP FPS games (ergo 99.9%) of them surround one protagonist who is tasked with accomplishing an objective.

[slapnutz]

Huh?

Ohhh wait you mean recycle the "let the player feel isolated" theme but that's just what drives most games ever made.

Actually I prefer the island simply because its a more unique setting for modern FPS.

I mean if I want urban or metro or corridor shooters, thats the majority out there.

At least I knew if I wanted a refreshing senario change, I could always go to the Crytek guys.... but then again, I enjoy the island setting and I guess people that hate it would not like the game inturn.

Now that Crysis 2 is going to join the masses, where do I get my modern day fix of non urban, brown & grey FPSs?

[dukeonly]

Yeah, even with companion AI most SP FPS games (ergo 99.9%) of them surround one protagonist who is tasked with accomplishing an objective.

how else would you play the game? i am extremely interested


ok I finished crysis 2, I gotta say, all mistakes aside, the ending was pretty ******* bad ass, played both endings


and I think these guys who made this game really cared about these people in africa who go through this. I think this is one of the best games i've ever played


hey i hear you that all games these days are set in urban settings. that's why i started liking world war 2 games, they take you back to a time we didn't live through and thank god. now that those are getting played out, yeah, games set in the jungle are pretty good


that's why i like red faction, and red faction guerrilla, even though red faction guerilla isn't as good as red faction 1, it is pretty original, and looks like whoever made the game really did some research on mars


anyway i just want to say, i hate far cry 2 50/50
but not just 50/50 all the way through

i want to say that one 50/ of it just completely sucked
and the other /50 of it was really bad ass
this game deserves at least a notice, and i guess it's got one

[Paroxysm]

Troll account is a unsubtle.

[Sabarasa]

ok I finished crysis 2, I gotta say, all mistakes aside, the ending was pretty ******* bad ass, played both endings


Crysis 2 or Far Cry 2 ?

[SpinX]

and I think these guys who made this game really cared about these people in africa who go through this. I think this is one of the best games i've ever played



Do you really think this game even remotely resembles Africa? go book a plane and I think you'll notice you won't get shot by everybody when you are walking around there...

[Paroxysm]

Again, this is a troll account. Stop feeding him.

[predefined]

Again, this is a troll account. Stop feeding him.

Yet you are the one talking offtopic in this thread all the time. :doh:

Let the man talk (alot) about those games if he likes to.;)

[Sang]

Do you really think this game even remotely resembles Africa? go book a plane and I think you'll notice you won't get shot by everybody when you are walking around there...

Depends on where you're walking, you people know Africa isn't just one somewhat big town right? :cool: Africa is a lot bigger than the US and in the US alone some places are safer than others. Africa is no exception. Are you gonna get shot walking around in a tourist region of Egypt? Probably not. How about when walking around in Eastern Congo? Sortof less safe there.

Now that Crysis 2 is going to join the masses, where do I get my modern day fix of non urban, brown & grey FPSs?

I'm pretty sure Crysis 2 will still have some vibrant colouring (well, take vibrant with a grain of salt)

[dukeonly]

Troll account is a unsubtle.

do people never have any type of life then to sit on the computer all day and do this?
i could never sit on a computer all day not having a life looking for people who are 'trolls' or 'whatevers' i dont even know the terminology

if you want to message the admin about me being a troll, or message me fine
but every forum i go to there is always some guy that starts pulling all over me, and then i start argueing, i get kicked off some site and have to come back to another one

this forum is about the games, let's stick with the topic, so far this thread has been pretty good on topic

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Crysis 2 or Far Cry 2 ?

far cry 2

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Do you really think this game even remotely resembles Africa? go book a plane and I think you'll notice you won't get shot by everybody when you are walking around there...

LMAO

you obviously haven't been to all parts of africa

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Yet you are the one talking offtopic in this thread all the time. :doh:

Let the man talk (alot) about those games if he likes to.;)

yes, thanks, should've read this first

sorry to repeat myself

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Depends on where you're walking, you people know Africa isn't just one somewhat big town right? :cool: Africa is a lot bigger than the US and in the US alone some places are safer than others. Africa is no exception. Are you gonna get shot walking around in a tourist region of Egypt? Probably not. How about when walking around in Eastern Congo? Sortof less safe there.



I'm pretty sure Crysis 2 will still have some vibrant colouring (well, take vibrant with a grain of salt)

once again i should've read this first before saying it, yes, very good point

[Damien_Azreal]

Ugh.... this thread makes my head hurt.

[Paroxysm]

i get kicked off some site and have to come back to another one

Did you ever think why that is? Because you act like a troll. You post mind numbingly stupid things to get a rise out of people.

[8IronBob]

Ugh.... this thread makes my head hurt.

Got that right...about the only good game based off of Crytek technology would be the original Far Cry, tbh. I tried FC2 and Crysis, and they just don't compare. Why try to reinvent the wheel, and think it's gonna wind up being better in terms of everything else rather than a technology improvement?

[Hudson]

Far Cry 2 does not use a CryTek engine.. it uses a Ubisoft proprietary one dubbed "Dunia"

[MegaMustaine]

Far Cry 2 does not use a CryTek engine.. it uses a Ubisoft proprietary one dubbed "Dunia"

Some of the code in the Dunia is based upon the original CryTek engine.

[Sang]

Far Cry 2 does not use a CryTek engine.. it uses a Ubisoft proprietary one dubbed "Dunia"

IIRC it's the same engine from one of their racing games or something. Maybe it was DiRT?

[MegaMustaine]

IIRC it's the same engine from one of their racing games or something. Maybe it was DiRT?

No. The new Operation Flashpoint used the same engine as Dirt. The Dunia engine was built specifically for FC2.

[Hudson]

Some of the code in the Dunia is based upon the original CryTek engine.

I didn't know this, actually never heard anything about it. I thought they used UE3 for the base of the engine, I guess not..

[Damien_Azreal]

I didn't know this, actually never heard anything about it. I thought they used UE3 for the base of the engine, I guess not..

Yeah, if I remember correctly it was originally based on the first version of the CryEngine.
But after constantly tweaking and updating it, the engine was basically brand new... a new engine built out of an existing one. Very much so similar to tiny bits of Quake engine code remaining in the Source Engine.

Dunia is basically it's own creation now.

[dukeonly]

I didn't know this, actually never heard anything about it. I thought they used UE3 for the base of the engine, I guess not..

u3 for base of engine? pretty sure they did. compare far cry 2 with bioshock, notice any similar effects? like the opening doors effects? looks the same, right? plus, lighting and art and style are similar.

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Yeah, if I remember correctly it was originally based on the first version of the CryEngine.
But after constantly tweaking and updating it, the engine was basically brand new... a new engine built out of an existing one. Very much so similar to tiny bits of Quake engine code remaining in the Source Engine.

Dunia is basically it's own creation now.

i thought dunia was the crytek 2 engine, same as crysis?

[Malgon]

MegaMustaine and D_A are right about the Dunia engine being initially based off of CryEngine (as seen below). Also note that Crysis runs on CryEngine 2.

The Dunia engine was built specifically for Far Cry 2 by Ubisoft Montreal development team. It delivers realistic semi-destructible environments, special effects such as dynamic fire propagation [28] and storm effects, real-time night-and-day cycle, dynamic music system and non-scripted enemy A.I actions.

The engine takes advantage of multi-core processors as well as multiple processors and supports DirectX 9 as well as DirectX 10.[29] Only 2 or 3 percent of the original CryEngine code is re-used, according to Michiel Verheijdt, Senior Product Manager for Ubisoft Netherlands. Additionally, the engine is less hardware-demanding than CryEngine 2, the engine used in Crysis.[30]

[SpinX]

Do you really think this game even remotely resembles Africa? go book a plane and I think you'll notice you won't get shot by everybody when you are walking around there...



LMAO

you obviously haven't been to all parts of africa



an you have? Far cry 2 had every cliche about africa wrapped in one game... I know Africa is a violent and poor continent, but to go as far as saying far cry 2 resembles africa is just narrow sighted and just plain stupid...

[Sang]

No. The new Operation Flashpoint used the same engine as Dirt. The Dunia engine was built specifically for FC2.

Oh wow, guess I really mixed something up badly there :D Thanks for clearing that up

[Damien_Azreal]

Dunia has also been used for Avatar the game.

[dukeonly]

an you have? Far cry 2 had every cliche about africa wrapped in one game... I know Africa is a violent and poor continent, but to go as far as saying far cry 2 resembles africa is just narrow sighted and just plain stupid...

dude, seriously, no offense but....

could you design that game? and the environments took some research and development man

i'm no game designer, so from where i am, it took some skill, and took some money

if you want perfect, play modern warfare 2, if you want a game with realistic african environments and semi realistic african warfare between people that is somewhat similar, play far cry 2


let's stop acting like we've all been over there also, but from movies of africa, they got the landscape down pretty well

[Damien_Azreal]

.....
if you want perfect, play modern warfare 2.....

Oh... god. That made me laugh so damn much.... Perfect game. MW2 was... pathetic. Horribly pathetic.

[Lethe]

So was FEAR 2.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Yeah... pathetically cool! :cool:

[Damien_Azreal]

let's stop acting like we've all been over there also, but from movies of africa, they got the landscape down pretty well

You do realize... just because a movie is "set" in Africa doesn't always mean it's filmed there.
And yes, they have gotten some of the landscape correct... but FarCry 2 is NOT an accurate depiction of Africa and how things are down there.

[Phayzon]

if you want perfect, play modern warfare 2

I think you got confused with the words "modern warfare" and "Half-Life".

[Sang]

I think you got confused with the words "modern warfare" and "Half-Life".

You seem a tad confused yourself there Phayzon:cool:

[ZuljinRaynor]

There is no perfect game.

[Sang]

There is and it's called BioShock... I know you guys like System Shock 2 a lot more but, let me tell ya, I watched some videos and I'd rate it 77/100 at the most.

[dukeonly]

bioshock 2 was pretty bad ass, i'm almost disappointed it was made for kids

was drawn out a bit at points, but it seriously was nice in terms of underwater city creativeness, and the art wasn't bad either


i wanted to **** that big sister at the end btw, lol

[Delicieuxz]

There is no perfect game.

Gothix 2, San Andreas, NFS 2 SE. :D

There is and it's called BioShock...

Psshh! 5/10 at best. :p


The potential here for a huge opinion war is massive. :cool:

[dukeonly]

i'm not saying bioshock 2 was perfected, but how many games made underwater seem cool since super metroid?

bshk 2 was the first one to come along and make underwater seem cool since then if you ask me

[Paroxysm]

There is and it's called BioShock... I know you guys like System Shock 2 a lot more but, let me tell ya, I watched some videos and I'd rate it 77/100 at the most.

77/100

77/100

77/100

77/100

The horror

Lightning!

[Damien_Azreal]

Okay then.... hows about that FarCry 2 and Crysis... and what was this thread about?

[dukeonly]

ok ok return to topic

[Heil Duke]

far cry =good story
crysis = B**** SH***

[dukeonly]

perhaps

the story was at least good


you know what I hate about games these days compared to snes games? when snes was out, they would release a decent game every month, at least for awhile they did


then games started being so expensive to make, now we wait 13 years for one game, ROFLOL


man it's enough to piss anyone off

[Paroxysm]

Stop retard trolling.

[ZuljinRaynor]

If you're gonna troll, keep it in the DNF section.

[dukeonly]

think of how much money they could have made if they made a mafia wars type multiplayer with the ENTIRE open map and range of weapons

you could have like 500 players online at one time


of course people wouldn't have lives either

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Dude... wtf are you going on about?

[dukeonly]

technology that doesn't exist yet is what I am going on about

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but technology that we might be really close to sooner or later is what I'm going on about

[dukeonly]

ok here is proof that these developers cared about africa, they went over there to make this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRJyBzYbt34

and not only that, they had to actually experience some of the stuff to make the game, talk to citizens, get malaria shots, actually they weren't pussies about it they took like 9 shot vaccinations

pretty cool

[Sang]

Aww they had to talk and get shots did they? That's pretty deep right there. Did they also have to run and gun and try to survive while every man and his goat would drop everything they were doing to go kill them?

[Damien_Azreal]

Those videos are pretty bad. Yeah, they went to Africa... and ohh... they got some shots. ;) Possibly... maybe they managed to get one/two basic settings from Africa to look almost correct.

It's not the environment they screwed up on. It's the.... setting. The people, villages/towns... everything that makes it a living world. They horribly f**ked that up beyond reason.

[NutWrench]

The "fight the mercenaries" storyline has been done to death but I think it worked in Far Cry because of the exotic locations, sci-fi elements and a halfway decent story. Far Cry 2 cut out everything interesting, kept the mercenaries while vastly dumbing down their AI and then they handicapped the player with malaria.

However, although the player may accept missions from either of the game's main factions, he operates as a "deniable asset" that either side can deny having an association with if the player is killed, and so will generally be fired upon by any soldiers of either allegiance that he encounters, except in the ceasefire zones around the main towns.

So despite the presence of factions, there's no point or benefit to joining any of them since everyone will shoot you on sight.

When nearing death (only one health bar remaining), the player's character must perform a brief first aid on himself; for example, the player must dig bullets out of the body when shot and pat himself down when on fire or crack certain bones back into place.

Just what I want to be doing in the middle of a firefight. Realism can enhance your gaming experience or it can be a big pain in the ass. This is an example of the latter.

[Paroxysm]

ok here is proof that these developers WENT TO africal

Fixed for you

[dukeonly]

Aww they had to talk and get shots did they? That's pretty deep right there. Did they also have to run and gun and try to survive while every man and his goat would drop everything they were doing to go kill them?

wow, it's more than you do I imagine. When did you last visit the jungle? Overr there they got the concrete jungle AND the jungle, the u.s. can't say that about it's self, just one and not the other. At least the put the effort into that. Have some respect.

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Those videos are pretty bad. Yeah, they went to Africa... and ohh... they got some shots. ;) Possibly... maybe they managed to get one/two basic settings from Africa to look almost correct.

It's not the environment they screwed up on. It's the.... setting. The people, villages/towns... everything that makes it a living world. They horribly f**ked that up beyond reason.

so what do you consider a good game? anything? I mean, I don't go out every day to some other country for 3 weeks to make just a game, at least that is dedication.
Some people couldn't give a **** less. I mean, beats world of warcraft.

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The "fight the mercenaries" storyline has been done to death but I think it worked in Far Cry because of the exotic locations, sci-fi elements and a halfway decent story. Far Cry 2 cut out everything interesting, kept the mercenaries while vastly dumbing down their AI and then they handicapped the player with malaria.



So despite the presence of factions, there's no point or benefit to joining any of them since everyone will shoot you on sight.



Just what I want to be doing in the middle of a firefight. Realism can enhance your gaming experience or it can be a big pain in the ass. This is an example of the latter.

well, maybe it could have had improvements, but it's better and more innovative than anything we've seen today. I mean, real time is a luxery. And honestly, this game shows something people honestly don't appreciate. Now you can visit the jungles of africa in any day or night time there is, without ever having to go there.
all they need is a starvation factor, and you have a little bit of education on what living in the jungle could be like, minus the gun fights.
over in the u.s. and europe and australia and all of it, we're spoiled as crap. All we have if world of warcraft and etc.
All you have for our own crap is rap music though, which glorifies violence in many cases. Now in this they at least had some good intentions in mind. And whether they made it perfect or not, we got to visit a habitat completely in the comfort of our own home, and they actually went and risked a night with the lions to make it happen.
we get so spoiled we don't even see how great of an amenity these things bring us.
I thank god I don't live in a place like africa during this recession. I'm damn lucky. Of course I try and apply myself, so if I just wanted pure entertainment, i could just go play jedi nights. I got something more out of far cry.

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here is a good review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vhHmemN-g
it points out the bad things you people have been saying, and the good things I've been saying, or if not bad and good the cons and pros so to speak


but now watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjzUC2JhTI

nothing to do with africa, but isn't that disgusting? I mean, history is written as it goes along. We live in a world now with information technology, we are at the peak of civilization. Lol. I mean hardly, but still, at least we don't have to deal with that. things that were never written down, so people don't believe it.

I'm just saying far cry 2 as dumb and played out as it is, still provides us with an example of how with freedom of speech, you could make a game now where you go to fallujah, and battle with soldiers and get shot in the head. Some times and places would never let us record that, exept on scripts carved on the wall. We live in a time and era where we are lucky to be able to explore space, and have the amenities. Just remember, we appreciate some things people might not have ever been able to.

thank god we don't have to experience genocide the way they did in world war 2 or how they experience it in africa, disgusting aspects of humanity

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

Errr.....OK. :D

[dukeonly]

Errr.....OK. :D

haha ... heh
i do go on a bit, huh? :D:

[Paroxysm]

Like Mexican diarrhea

[dukeonly]

i guess truthfully, i dont know if many games have been what you would consider 'good' since final fantasy 6, final fantasy 7, and chrono trigger, but still, the technology behind the game, and the fact that they went through reels of film and etc. etc. etc. i guess i've said this already

blah blah blah

well, anyone feel like they were actually exploring a world besides me?

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Like Mexican diarrhea

******* a

'i started this gangster shit, and this is the mother******* thanks i get'
you insulted dre:p

this is what people get for expanding technology


what would be fun is a reel of all the videos, pictures, etc. that ever went into animation sequence to make a video game. that would be a lot of stuff.

[Phayzon]

i guess truthfully, i dont know if many games have been what you would consider 'good' since final fantasy 6, final fantasy 7, and chrono trigger,

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=37548

[Sang]

[blablabla]

Christ you really are too dense to notice that that whole "We went to Africa, see how much we care!!!" bullshit is just a publicity stunt that happens to trick dense people into having more respect for Ubisoft..

[dukeonly]

you don't think they could have done that without going there at all?


i mean screw the game, you can think it sucks. But for publicity games have release dates two years before they come out, like black ops. That is publicity.


why wouldn't they just hire other people to go to africa? Idk maybe you're right.


i guess the end lesson is, games are part of life, life sucks, therego games suck. eh?:D:doh:

[Sang]

No, that's not the end lesson... The end lesson is you need to get a clue my friend :)

[dukeonly]

giiiiit ouuutt

and you ought to understand that considering your avatar

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nT0OqHr3wHQ/0.jpg

[Paroxysm]

you don't think they could have done that without going there at all?


If the publisher will pay for a holiday you take it. Travel for "research" is one of the oldest PR stunts in the book.

"We have to go to new york and get shots of those special new york bricks for our textures!"

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah.
They went and looked at the plants and environments and on and on... and yes, that looks good in the game. But what they didn't do was create a living, breathing and believable world.

Poor mission structure, bad dialog and characters, a paper thin story, bad delivery or a bad story. Add in the constantly respawning enemies (respawn is fine, but not five seconds after you leave a checkpoint)... the fact that EVERYBODY outside the main town shoots on site... ugh.
There was potential, a solid engine and nice combat. But everything else they should've been there to build an amazing game... wasn't. FarCry 2 was easily the biggest disappointment for me that year, and a waste of 50 bucks. But, at least I got Dead Space at the same time... it more than made up for it.


And yes, developers have their little field trips to places to do "research" all the time. It's nothing new. So Ubisoft went to Africa... *gasp*... doesn't mean anything. Valve did research on European building and such for HL2... Gearbox interviewed WW2 veterans and did research for their Brothers in Arms games...
Developers do this kind of work all the time. It's part of the job, it doesn't really mean anything. And getting 9 shots... so? They went to Africa, getting those shots is just part of going to Africa.

[Rapture_Rising]

Yeah.
They went and looked at the plants and environments and on and on... and yes, that looks good in the game. But what they didn't do was create a living, breathing and believable world.

Poor mission structure, bad dialog and characters, a paper thin story, bad delivery or a bad story. Add in the constantly respawning enemies (respawn is fine, but not five seconds after you leave a checkpoint)... the fact that EVERYBODY outside the main town shoots on site... ugh.
There was potential, a solid engine and nice combat. But everything else they should've been there to build an amazing game... wasn't. FarCry 2 was easily the biggest disappointment for me that year, and a waste of 50 bucks. But, at least I got Dead Space at the same time... it more than made up for it.

I agree with this. It was so excruciatingly repetitive i uninstalled it when 20% of the way through. It had huge potential but as always it failed to deliver.

I think is shouldnt have been called Far Cry 2 considering it has nothing to do with the first game.

[Damien_Azreal]

Agreed. They only called it FarCry 2 to gather attention from people seeing as how FarCry was already an established name in the industry. It probably started development without a title or under a different one.

[dukeonly]

Yeah.
They went and looked at the plants and environments and on and on... and yes, that looks good in the game. But what they didn't do was create a living, breathing and believable world.

Poor mission structure, bad dialog and characters, a paper thin story, bad delivery or a bad story. Add in the constantly respawning enemies (respawn is fine, but not five seconds after you leave a checkpoint)... the fact that EVERYBODY outside the main town shoots on site... ugh.
There was potential, a solid engine and nice combat. But everything else they should've been there to build an amazing game... wasn't. FarCry 2 was easily the biggest disappointment for me that year, and a waste of 50 bucks. But, at least I got Dead Space at the same time... it more than made up for it.


And yes, developers have their little field trips to places to do "research" all the time. It's nothing new. So Ubisoft went to Africa... *gasp*... doesn't mean anything. Valve did research on European building and such for HL2... Gearbox interviewed WW2 veterans and did research for their Brothers in Arms games...
Developers do this kind of work all the time. It's part of the job, it doesn't really mean anything. And getting 9 shots... so? They went to Africa, getting those shots is just part of going to Africa.

ok but going to new york and staying in a penthouse suite is one thing.

I understand that the game was very disappointing to the standards you made up to it, ok i get that. But honestly when super mario brothers came out, if this game came out a few months later would you have been disappointed at all? I mean, you complimented the environment. And like I said, we've figured that that game could have been better for what i was worth. But there are way worst games out there. dead space was that good btw, huh?

anyway, I'm just saying, at least they put SOME time into it, it's one thing to be in a penthouse in new york walking around taking photographs, eating pizza etc. It's another to be in the middle of a jungle risking malaria.

now sure, for red faction guerrilla, mars looked pretty real, to some extent, they might have consulted with nasa about some aspects of the environment. And for saving private ryan, they did so many crazy stunts, some actors said they actually took a shit that a blank was going to be misplaced with a real bullet in all those hundreds of guns shooting at them while they were filming, or that one of those explosions right next to them that was 'controlled' was going to be too close and blow their leg off. Yeah, compared to that going to africa is NO HUGE FEAT.

but still, the place they went wasn't exactly GREAT. I'm just saying at least they put some effort into it, i'm sure we agree enough that there has been worst.

and maybe i should try out dead space now that you guys have slashed far cry, but if you think dead space is better, then maybe I'll look into it.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Far Cry 2 is 1 big map with 1 mission copy and pasted all over the place, with enemy respawning in two seconds, a lame story, and guns that jam more than in America's Army.

[dukeonly]

the guns sure did jam, but i liked that, made the game more complex. i loved the missions, and large space you had to accomplish it.

and you're right, it was copy and pasted, but the original design of the art and graphics was really well done, and took some skill. not just anyone could design that. Liking the story or whatever is one thing. But you have to appreciate software designers as such. people seem to think they around every corner.

i'm sure whatever your job is, there are probably all types of people that think just anyone can do it, but when you are at work, I'm sure you expect appreciation for the time and effort you put into things, and hope people look past the part of you being replacable.

honestly, it sucks that in a world, mopping a floor is completely replacable, whereas designing computers and such is 'highly valuable and irreplacable.' it's all bullshit, but none the less I still respect them for the effort they put into it.

btw the above said about your work wasn't meant to be an insult, I'm just trying to put things into perspective that effort is recognized by those who do effort, and expendability is recognized by those who don't have appreciation, and often times haven't done it themself. I meant it in no way as an insult, just a frame of reference.:cool:

[hiob]

I also went on vacation once. Appreciate my effort!

[WoodenSword]

Far cry 2:

1) Repetitive missions
2) Travelling/driving/exploring was a ultra-boring experience
3) the BLUR/BLOOM Everywhere....OH MY GOD MY EYES!!

but it had very good elements and potential.The above three problems however overshadowed them

Crysis was much more boring as a concept but it had a solid gameplay. It was a more balanced game.

Winner -> Crysis (unfortunately)

[Damien_Azreal]

I understand that the game was very disappointing to the standards you made up to it, ok i get that. But honestly when super mario brothers came out, if this game came out a few months later would you have been disappointed at all?

The game was disappointing because it was flawed... had nothing to do with overly high expectations or anything. I had very low expectations actually... and was still letdown.

And, Super Mario kicks the hell out of this game. Doesn't matter if it's Super Mario Galaxy, or one of the classics... far more enjoyable games.

And it's fine if you like the game, but your defenses as to why it's a good game... are just... wow. I don't care if Ubisoft went to Africa to research the game, doesn't change the fact that the game sucks. Dedication does not equal quality.



And, for the record... Dead Space... best game of 2008 (other than Fallout 3). Hands down.

[dukeonly]

Far cry 2:

1) Repetitive missions
2) Travelling/driving/exploring was a ultra-boring experience
3) the BLUR/BLOOM Everywhere....OH MY GOD MY EYES!!

but it had very good elements and potential.The above three problems however overshadowed them

Crysis was much more boring as a concept but it had a solid gameplay. It was a more balanced game.

Winner -> Crysis (unfortunately)

ok, very fair. i'll probably buy crysis 2 anyway, looks pretty realistic. they are having a far cry 3 game coming out, no idea what it's like anyway.

[Jiminator]

lol, lets compare, stalker, far cry2

stalker -> they visited parts of Chernobyl
FC2 -> visited parts of africa

stalker -> needed guide + respirators to avoid radiation
FC2 -> needed guide to avoid scary lions and wildlife

Stalker -> used a ton of photos to make models for towns, buildings, houses, abandoned areas, vehicles, landmarks, etc
FC2 -> uh, they made plants and trees?

Stalker -> modeled military + many weapons based on actual models
FC2 -> ??

[dukeonly]

The game was disappointing because it was flawed... had nothing to do with overly high expectations or anything. I had very low expectations actually... and was still letdown.

And, Super Mario kicks the hell out of this game. Doesn't matter if it's Super Mario Galaxy, or one of the classics... far more enjoyable games.

And it's fine if you like the game, but your defenses as to why it's a good game... are just... wow. I don't care if Ubisoft went to Africa to research the game, doesn't change the fact that the game sucks. Dedication does not equal quality.



And, for the record... Dead Space... best game of 2008 (other than Fallout 3). Hands down.

i don't see how my defense suck, it looks like it was really hard to design the environment. I guess you could say they ripped the technology off from crysis.

I agree that yes, it was really repetative, I mostly loved the beginning, and a few other parts, but zoomed through it as fast as possible to get to the end because I liked the beginning a lot.
as far as getting on with the story, ok it sucked. But I had a blast exploring the maps, until I wanted the story to get a move on. One day I think this technology will make some incredible stuff, even if it's not for 15 years in the future, this type of stuff will really increase the ability of games. And I guess crysis had the same abilities. But here is something that I MUST SAY I WINS ON HANDS DOWN:

i dont care how much far cry 1 and 2 and 5 sucked and will suck, you said this
"best game of 2008 (other than Fallout 3). Hands down"

fallout 3 sucked ass worst than an ass that developed a mouth and learned to suck itself. far cry, no matter how terrible, will dwarf the hell out of fallout 3 no matter what. Lol want to talk about a repetative copy and paste game? fallout 3 is it. I have no idea how it won any awards what so ever in any way shape or form.

at least far cry 2 had some change in design, you go from forest to savannah, savannah to desert. Fallout 3 was the same cities next to rivers crap the whole way through.


the concept behind fallout 3 might get game of the year, but the game itself sucks. For that they might as well give duke nukem forever game of the year, I mean a game you can't play much worth with a good story somewhere way behind in the first conceptual thoughts as the backbone of a game when they first thought of the thing is exactly how I see fallout 3. Hah. hahahaha.;)

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lol, lets compare, stalker, far cry2

stalker -> they visited parts of Chernobyl
FC2 -> visited parts of africa

stalker -> needed guide + respirators to avoid radiation
FC2 -> needed guide to avoid scary lions and wildlife

Stalker -> used a ton of photos to make models for towns, buildings, houses, abandoned areas, vehicles, landmarks, etc
FC2 -> uh, they made plants and trees?

Stalker -> modeled military + many weapons based on actual models
FC2 -> ??

never played stalker

as for military weapons and models based on actual models and visiting chernobyl, you sure you're not talking about call of duty 4?


btw for those defending the repetative plot of far cry 2, I don't actually own the game, so yeah, I'm not argueing on that. If it was less repetative I would have actually bought it. Still had a blast for many parts the first time I played it though. And I guess depending on if you've been to africa before or not could you actually say if society is set up that + or _ the violence either way. But still there have been worst games.


+ they actually got a lot of the terrain geographically correct in terms of plant life indigenous. That is also a plus for me to say about far cry. I'm only guessing they did the same for crysis, don't really know

[Sang]

at least far cry 2 had some change in design, you go from forest to savannah, savannah to desert. Fallout 3 was the same cities next to rivers crap the whole way through.

Again you are losing focus, young padawan. Nobody's complaining about the environment in Far Cry 2. We're talking about the actual gameplay, which might confuse you. It's true that Fallout 3 had a fair share of copy-pasted, dull-looking areas but at least to me it was a lot more fun to play and immersive than Far Cry 2.


And now I read you don't even own the game in any way, so I'm guessing you're basing your opinion on playing it with a buddy on a console for an hour or so..

[dukeonly]

Again you are losing focus, young padawan. Nobody's complaining about the environment in Far Cry 2. We're talking about the actual gameplay, which might confuse you. It's true that Fallout 3 had a fair share of copy-pasted, dull-looking areas but at least to me it was a lot more fun to play and immersive than Far Cry 2.


And now I read you don't even own the game in any way, so I'm guessing you're basing your opinion on playing it with a buddy on a console for an hour or so..

actually the game was really long. I played it for about 2 or 3 days. Like everyone has said, it is long.

I guess that's fair enough, if I wanted fast hard core gameplay I'd go with modern warfare. Far cry 2 is definately not that. I appreciate it for what it's worth, very realistic jungle type environment. Story could have improved, still liked the idea that people would play it and feel a little worst for people in africa. yeah it was no final fantasy 6 as an unraveling story. Going to buy crysis 2 for the same reason, jungle exploration, the story for crysis 1 and 2 looks worst than something my freinds 5 year old daughter would have thought up, or maybe about the same. With the exeption of the alien ship which was a pretty cool idea. duke 3d does a better job with that though, if you're not counting old 1996 graphics that obviously crysis swamps.

thanks for replying:cool:

[ZuljinRaynor]

lol, lets compare, stalker, far cry2

stalker -> they visited parts of Chernobyl
FC2 -> visited parts of africa

stalker -> needed guide + respirators to avoid radiation
FC2 -> needed guide to avoid scary lions and wildlife

Stalker -> used a ton of photos to make models for towns, buildings, houses, abandoned areas, vehicles, landmarks, etc
FC2 -> uh, they made plants and trees?

Stalker -> modeled military + many weapons based on actual models
FC2 -> ??

The similarity they have, is they both suck. :cool:

[Jiminator]

put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer.
the only people who say stalker sucks are the ones who can't deal with reality...
ie: getting shot up = death, "oh noes the bastards killed me again!"

[Sang]

Nah, the people who say STALKER sucks, like me, are those who can't play it for longer than 5 minutes without it crashing, or those who try to reload a saved game in one of those Arena matches only to have the game bug out and being eternally stuck and hoping they were clever enough to foresee this bugginess in advance and have a spare save.

It's stability issues like that why a lot of people dislike STALKER, it has **** all to do with difficulty.

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

/pulls out stalker certified guitar

[dukeonly]

so definately between crysis and far cry 1, if I was going to buy one and haven't played either, buy and play far cry first?

[ZuljinRaynor]

put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer.
the only people who say stalker sucks are the ones who can't deal with reality...
ie: getting shot up = death, "oh noes the bastards killed me again!"

More like the terrible engine, the terrible gunplay and the terrible quests. :cool:

[Jiminator]

you can play far cry for free, there is an ad supported on on the internet.

[dukeonly]

i'll try it out, doubt my computer can handle it, thanks though

[Mighty Boot]

/pulls out stalker certified guitar

/suddenly makes the guitar disappear when anyone tries to talk to me. :cool:

Speaking of STALKER, I found out I never recieved the mission to get the decoder and therefore couldn't get the real ending. I spent like an hour trying to find it then finally found the window outside room 26. I used an RPG to blast the decoder close enough to the window to grab it. :D

But to be perdinent, I always saw Crysis as a Far Cry reboot. Both are great. Crysis' advantage lies in the more dynamic gameplay and the variety of the "second act". Far Cry's plot, jungle immersion, and innovation were its strong points. I agree with the idea that Far Cry 2 probably began as a non-Far Cry game.

[MegaMustaine]

you can play far cry for free, there is an ad supported on on the internet.

That is long gone. You cannot install that version anymore.

[Hudson]

I rate this thread 77/100

[Damien_Azreal]

I rate this thread 77/100

I would have to agree.

[dukeonly]

lol, thought you'd like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg_9wb0uaf4


seen it already? Haaah. funny, maybe even interesting