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MegaMustaine
06-08-2010, 07:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MqZn7E-mk

Yay, another bad video game movie.

Paroxysm
06-08-2010, 08:07 PM
As far as has been said about that clip (practically nothing) is that it's promotion for the new MK game being shown at E3. If it's indicative of anything more it is merely a proof on concept video. That said I'd totally see an MK movie with Michael Jai White. DYNAMITE!

wayskobfssae
06-08-2010, 09:13 PM
MK1 was enjoyable. MK2 was utter crap, so forgive me if I don't have much confidence. Especially after someone actually proved that a new Street Fighter movie could actually be worse than the original.

Kalki
06-09-2010, 01:35 AM
Of all the franchises to have a realism-steeped reboot, why did they pick this one?

Xgthug
06-09-2010, 06:08 AM
This looks like complete ass-poo.
A harlequin baby as reptile? Some Jamaican with dreads as Baraka?
It seems like the only way they expect this to resemble Mortal Kombat at all, is with the non-stop cheesy lines that reference the original game.

I am suddenly reminded of the mentality behind the Doom movie:
"Disregard that we completely raped Doom. Hell and demons? F*ck that! People want mutants! It's more realistic. Disregard that an extra chromosome causes DOWN SYNDROME and not superhuman abilities. It's okay, though... We'll make some parts look kinda like Doom 3, and even throw an FPS scene in there. That will please the FPS fans LMAO. We've even got a doctor named Carmack, that way when ppl watch it, they'll all be like "dats da guy who made doom lol".
Besides, it's got The Rock! Everybody loves him"

I can only hope that if this is really happening, it fails just as miserably as Doom.

Paroxysm
06-09-2010, 06:43 AM
Geez a lot of hate for something that isn't even a movie.

Actress Jeri Ryan of Star Trek: Voyage fame appears as Sonya Blade in a Mortal Kombat trailer dubbed "Mortal Kombat: Rebirth" that popped up online. Is it a game trailer? A movie trailer? Tell us, Jeri, tell us!

"Okay, so... Mortal Kombat," she tweets. "It's not a game trailer. Actually was made for the director to sell WB on his vision for a reimagined MK film."

Ryan said she did her role as a favor to a friend. "No idea yet what WB's reaction to it was,"

http://kotaku.com/5558850/that-mortal-kombat-trailer-jeri-ryan-explains?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kotaku%2Ffull+%28Kotaku%29

Mister_Anderson
06-09-2010, 10:05 AM
Not feeling it. And whats Raiden going to be? An electrician?

Wont ever get my wish for M.J.W. as Rhodey but he would be better off as Luke Cage/Power Man than in this rubbish.

Kien
06-09-2010, 10:39 AM
What the fack was that? They pick some ideas from MK and use as reference to make some realistic horror movie? MK games are about a (rather ugly) mix of fantasy and sci-fi setting.

Altered Reality
06-09-2010, 10:53 AM
Funny... this is exactly how I figured the first Mortal Kombat game would be, back in 1992, when I read a preview of it with no screenshots and a description of the gameplay without any mention of the plot.
Not feeling it. And whats Raiden going to be? An electrician?
To keep the gritty feel of that short, where most of the characters are crazy and/or deformed criminals, Raiden could be a madman who uses Tesla coils to torture his victims and calls himself "The God of Thunder".

Delicieuxz
06-09-2010, 11:43 AM
I'd be all for a high quality MK film, but that??? Bastardizing some of the coolest characters in gaming history, like Baraka and Reptile, and turning them simply into demented humans? Please, please, no.

Altered Reality
06-09-2010, 12:32 PM
To be the devil's advocate: they might have wanted to distance themselves as much as possible from Annihilation.

Nexus_sa
06-09-2010, 12:51 PM
I can only hope that if this is really happening, it fails just as miserably as Doom.

So you hope it fails instead of turning out to be something good?

Silly.

Anyway, it got me interested. I like the re-imagining, although I think it's going to be hard to pull off well.

You never know. Worst case, it gets made and is a flop. Best case, it turns out to be an awesome popcorn movie.

I'm hoping for the latter.

Commando Nukem
06-09-2010, 02:02 PM
You never know. Worst case, it gets made and is a flop. Best case, it turns out to be an awesome popcorn movie.


Oh come on, way to broad stroke it there! Lol. It could be the greatest thing ever or the worst thing ever, who knows?

Feh. The original MK was good, didnt care for the sequel... in fact i'd day of all the movie adaptions, aside from the lack of gore, the first MK was the best of the all of em. :)

Rider
06-09-2010, 03:06 PM
It's not real? Aww... I thought it would've been positively dreadful! I was actually looking forward to it :D

wayskobfssae
06-09-2010, 05:35 PM
To keep the gritty feel of that short, where most of the characters are crazy and/or deformed criminals, Raiden could be a madman who uses Tesla coils to torture his victims and calls himself "The God of Thunder".

That just got done with Iron Man 2.

Cleric
06-09-2010, 06:02 PM
I don't know...I just....meh. The violence in the trailer is the kind of stuff that should have been in the other MK movies...but where's Outworld? Where's the soul-stealing? Fire breathing? Freezing people?

I like Michael Jai White, but that's not enough to make me accept this.

Montykoro!
06-10-2010, 12:21 AM
I like, is a good reboot, someting new... Mk2 is like a punch in the nuts...so why not try someting new?

wayskobfssae
06-10-2010, 01:11 AM
I like, is a good reboot, someting new... Mk2 is like a punch in the nuts...so why not try someting new?

Pretend MK2 never happened and make it the way it should've been?

Xgthug
06-10-2010, 01:26 AM
I know the short was bad, but does it necessarily imply that all supernatural elements have been taken out? That would make "Mortal Kombat" just a fight club for freakshows, and the "Mortal" part completely redundant. I don't think they thought this through.. At all...

Paroxysm
06-10-2010, 03:50 AM
This is about the only place I've found online that hates the short. Who knew that Mortal Kombat had a strong enough heritage to disrespect :P

Xgthug
06-10-2010, 04:04 AM
I love the games, and the first movie was an absolute childhood favorite.
This is more offensive than that video on YouTube with those gay emo boys dancing around to the MK theme.

Kalki
06-10-2010, 06:08 AM
This is about the only place I've found online that hates the short. Who knew that Mortal Kombat had a strong enough heritage to disrespect :P

I don't hate the short. It was well made, only it ain't Mortal Kombat.

prophecy holder
06-10-2010, 08:22 AM
I don't hate the short. It was well made, only it ain't Mortal Kombat.

"It's like making a Quake movie, but the strogg are genetic experiments by the nazi's in WW2. Something went horribly wrong with the mutations and now they are attacking Russia in the winter."

Went so far away from the source material that it is safe to call it "something different".

Kalki
06-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Yep. And the MK we know is making a comeback.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=37647

WarThrash
06-10-2010, 04:09 PM
THE MYSTICISM WILL BE IN THE NEW MK MOVIE:

Stated in an interview with Director Kevin Tancharoen:
http://www.collider.com/2010/06/09/kevin-tancharoen-interview-mortal-kombat-rebirth-feature-film/%EF%BB%BF

I know there’s a lot of concern about the mysticism and the special powers and all that kind of stuff. Well, like I said, this is really designed — the short so far is really designed like a prologue to the movie. Now, in a movie version, I am going to have that mysticism there, but it has to be done in a very tasteful way. I wouldn’t like it too campy or too cheesy. I know this is a weird analogy, but it’s the best one I can think of right now. It’s kind of like when in Harry Potter, there’s two universes that coexist with each other. There’s the real world, and then you get on the train and then you go to Hogwart’s, and that’s where all the magic is. It was actually kind of similar in the first Mortal Kombat, too. They had to get on the ship and go to the island, and that’s where all the crazy stuff happened.

[It isn't] going to be too over the top with fireballs and electricity. Even though I do want to have that in there. But I really feel like there has to be limitations to it. There has to be rules. Because when you take a special move, and you make it indisposable, to me it’s no longer special. It has to all come from something that has a little bit of limitation to it. I think whenever I talk about stuff like this, I always give the analogy of the whole Matrix trilogy. I personally only really love the first one, because I feel like that’s the only one that had personal stakes with Neo. He had limitations. He had obstacles that he had to overcome. His powers were limited. But once you got him there, it was amazing. The other two, not so much. When he turned into a CG character, and he has the big metal pipe, and he’s killing eight thousand versions of Agent Smith. When I saw that for the first time, I felt like Peter Griffin trying to make it through Failure to Launch. He got up and just said, “Done.” I tuned out it because it wasn’t real for me anymore. I didn’t really feel like there were any obstacles to overcome. So with all that mysticism, I want to infuse it. But I also want to infuse it with a little bit more of a demonic presence, as opposed to an Asian mysticism presence, so that it feels a little bit more evil.

I definitely want to incorporate all of that stuff, but I want to incorporate it in a very tasteful way. Not in an over the top, campy way, where everyone one is just throwing fireballs, and throwing electricity, and having an unlimited supply of special moves. Because then, if you do that, to me they’re not special anymore at all. And I want to incorporate all of the very iconic things that have made Mortal Kombat so special.

Raiden’s not going to be an electrician with lasers on his forearm or anything like that. I have no interest in doing anything like that. I just thought Baraka was a cool character and I know there’s — you know, on comment blogs you get a lot of mixed things. And there’s obviously a lot of questions about race, but I don’t understand why that’s such an issue when Nick Fury is Sam Jackson. I took the liberty of making Baraka a real.

Just wanted to throw that out there. And with that said, I think it's going to be AWESOME! :cool:

MegaMustaine
06-10-2010, 08:32 PM
He took the opportunity to make Baraka real yo. :mryuck:

Paroxysm
06-10-2010, 09:38 PM
And how dare he!

Xgthug
06-11-2010, 12:56 AM
"...
[It isn't] going to be too over the top with fireballs and electricity. Even though I do want to have that in there. But I really feel like there has to be limitations to it. There has to be rules. Because when you take a special move, and you make it indisposable, to me it’s no longer special.
...
"


Pfft... As if that's the spirit of the game at all.
I hold no discretion when it comes to special moves, and I doubt anyone else here does.
What do you do the majority of the time you're playing as Sub-Zero? Whoring out his freezeball move, of course. It's what he's good at.

Reptile (From Deadly Alliance) is personally my favorite character from any of the Mortal Kombat games... The only character I actually memorized every single move and fatality for, and I was unstoppable with him, and in that game, he was actually a humanoid reptile.

This harlequin shit is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. Good concept for an unrelated horror movie villain, maybe even a Mortal Kombat character, but not for the character reptile.

I really wish they'd just leave video games alone.
This whole deal of making modern games more "realistic", and making "realistic" film renditions of classic games is just crap.

WarThrash
06-11-2010, 04:49 AM
I actually like what they did with reptile for the simple fact that in the games he's either completely human or an actual reptile. The disease thing was a good compromise between making him human and an actual monster.

However with Baraka they did screw up. I actually like the design, and the character make-up, and even the actor playing him, but they did screw the backstory up by making him a real human. But since it's only a short, maybe they can fix that. But spamming fireballs and freeze-moves in a video game and doing it in a movie are two different things. When I play MK I also love to spam scorpions spear move, but if he kept doing it in the movie, I'd think "Gee, is that all this guy can do?" and it'd lose its meaning. Besides, no one complained that Joker never used his "Happy Gas", or his acid flower in the dark knight.

Altered Reality
06-11-2010, 06:43 AM
[It isn't] going to be too over the top with fireballs and electricity.
(cut)
I want to infuse it. But I also want to infuse it with a little bit more of a demonic presence, as opposed to an Asian mysticism presence, so that it feels a little bit more evil.
Great. So it's not gonna be either what Mortal Kombat has been until now (other dimensions, a large variety of special powers) NOR what I imagined Mortal Kombat to be before seeing it in action for the first time and what the short presented itself as (a gritty setting where all the characters have an extremely morbid fascination with violence, mayhem and death). It's gonna be an uninspired hybrid between the two concepts which tries to be both but fails to be either.
And to think I had hopes about this for a while... :doh:

WarThrash
06-11-2010, 08:41 AM
I just think it's funny that when you guys get what you want, you still find something to complain about.

"There's no mysticism!"

"yes there is, it's just not going to be all silly about it like MK: Alliance was"

"Well.....there's not going to be ENOUGH mysticism!"



You guys are definitely in the minority. Most people on on every other site love the short. And the affirmation that the magic/mysticism will be there makes it all that much better to me. Just my stupid lil' opinion though

Mister_Anderson
06-11-2010, 08:52 AM
Hey I didn't want it! No-one even asked me.

But yeah if I grafted blades into my forearms, there's no chance in hell I would even think to lead with them or even pop them out for the odd slash or 2 half way through a fight.

I'd wait after I'd taken a few big hits and risked being taken out myself before using them.

REALITY LOSES. FLAWLESS VICTORY.

wayskobfssae
06-11-2010, 11:36 AM
If you think about it, the original MK move really didn't have that many energy attacks. The best fight in the whole movie IMO was Liu Kang vs. Reptile, and there were no 'spells' used in that one at all, unless you count the gravity-defying cycle kick at the end, which visually ended up being the silliest moment in the whole film.

Off the top of my head, here's what I can remember.

Reptile spit acid ONCE (and only in real reptile form).
Liu shot a fireball ONCE.
Subzero shot a freeze ray ONCE. And that eternally expanding sphere of cold. ONCE.
Scorpion uses the grappler TWICE.

I don't think there's really much else to speak of except for Raiden and Tsung, and they're a God and the Archvillain respectively, so they should be going all out when it comes to power.



It does seem like a strange time to go ultra-realistic with characters like Baraka though. I mean... why? High-fantasy is more acceptable in film now than it ever has been.

Delicieuxz
06-11-2010, 02:27 PM
The new Baraka is the worst part, for me. Making Baraka (and same with Scorpion) a human with claw gizmos on his arm is paramount to making Wolverine a non-mutant who tapes butter knives to his hands while shooting himself up with painkillers. It completely sucks and removes everything that made that character appealing and desirable to see in action.

http://www.mortalkombatii.net/images/portrait/baraka.gif

The director says in WarThrash's posted interview that he wanted to make things more demonic and evil, but then changing the form of characters like Baraka and Scorpion away from who they already are is a move in the total opposite direction of those goals. A top quality MK movie can be done without simply imitating the Batman route (which is surely what inspired this idea). A realism-based Batman reboot could have been either good or terrible in the hands of different people, just as a MK film in either setting could be done well or poorly... but where this MK concept differs from Batman is that the Batman reboot used the motif of semi-realistic plausibility to explain its characters, while this MK concept is using it to completely erase and replace its characters, who they are, how they look, and why they act like they do. Might as well, and should (if this route is continued), rename them all and not call it MK, but something entirely new. Otherwise, it's just shameless capitalizing on the name's popularity while not delivering the world and cast associated with it.

Someone should make a movie that shakes loose the previous precedent of cheap, cheesy video game -> movie conversions, without running away from the world that game entails to do so.

Altered Reality
06-11-2010, 05:16 PM
Someone should make a movie that shakes loose the previous precedent of cheap, cheesy video game -> movie conversions, without running away from the world that game entails to do so.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//silent_hill-poster.jpg
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jake-gyllenhaal-prince-of-persia-movie-poster_a.jpg
:rolleyes:

fast-1
06-11-2010, 05:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQokcyUJ7c&feature=related

This is mortal Kombat, all there doing with this reboot is altering the story and making it look crap.

I seen the first MK film in the cinema and it rocked except for the loud dance music.

thefly
06-12-2010, 01:04 AM
I think the plot of the MK series was "insert token." I can't believe this trailer, written on spec, has gone so far off the beaten course.

Delicieuxz
06-12-2010, 03:18 AM
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//silent_hill-poster.jpg
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jake-gyllenhaal-prince-of-persia-movie-poster_a.jpg
:rolleyes:

Silent Hill movie is good. The moral still applies to the MK movie.

Karthik
06-13-2010, 11:24 AM
Wow, damn. Thank God, I watched the short before looking at this thread. Lots of hate floating around here. Anyway, I though the short was excellent. Would love to see it taken on another direction.

Sang
06-14-2010, 11:54 AM
I liked the short too actually. At least, it wasn't that bad.

Sabarasa
06-25-2010, 12:41 PM
I loved the short. Great news that it's going to be a movie.