New Mortal Kombat Game Trailer

[WarThrash]

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6265111/

Absolutely...badass :cool:

Johhny Cage is the Duke Nukem of fighting games!

[Altered Reality]

HOLY. CRAP. That's awesome! It looks like a retelling of the series from the beginning to MK3, but with modern graphics!

[WarThrash]

I was hoping to see some Scorpion action, but I'm guessing that'll be saved for later. He's my favorite character. Aside from that I'm friggin stoked that Raiden is back to his normal self rather than that "evil Raiden" he had become. And thank god, Johhny Cage is back. I know he was in Armageddon but that was just a watered down version of him from Deadly Alliance

[Kien]

MORTAL KOMBAT! *mortal kombat music*

[Altered Reality]

Aside from that I'm friggin stoked that Raiden is back to his normal self rather than that "evil Raiden" he had become.
That's what convinced me that this game is gonna be a retelling of the events of MK1, 2 and 3 rather than a sequel to MK: Armageddon.

[Damien_Azreal]

That's what convinced me that this game is gonna be a retelling of the events of MK1, 2 and 3 rather than a sequel to MK: Armageddon.

Well... that and the fact that Ed Boon said it was a reboot. ;)

[Cleric]

Yesyesyesyesyesyesyes

[Montykoro!]

Gore: yes
2D fight: yes
Photorealistic characters: No
Mk mechanics: Yes

Mmm is the best current gen Mk... :)

(Mk vs DC is too "happy land")

[WarThrash]

Boon said once that he basically wanted this to be MK with Gears of War gore. That was the main incentive for using the Unreal Engine. Those of you who've seen the gore effects in Gears know what I'm talking about, and know that it's going to be friggin awesome in the violence field at least ;)

[Paroxysm]

That looks hilariously good. When Johnny Cage is punching the flesh off Sub Zero? Oh my :D

[WarThrash]

That looks hilariously good. When Johnny Cage is punching the flesh off Sub Zero? Oh my :D

He's not really punching the flesh OFF. It's sort of an x-ray view to showcase the brutality of Cage's punches on Sub's bones. A neat feature, actually

[Delicieuxz]

The player models have an off-look to them, like they're molded soft plastic, and their movement is stiff, with some of the animations being plain bad. Shao Kahn's face is fat and his skull mask is too dinky for it in the intro CGI, makes him look like a slow-brained meat-head and not the menacing evil overlord of Outworld. Still, it's nice to have a new MK that somewhat returns to its roots, though it lacks the feel of grim integrity that MK originally had.

[WarThrash]

The player models have an off-look to them, like they're molded soft plastic, and their movement is stiff, with some of the animations being plain bad. Shao Kahn's face is fat and his skull mask is too dinky for it in the intro CGI, makes him look like a slow-brained meat-head and not the menacing evil overlord of Outworld. Still, it's nice to have a new MK that somewhat returns to its roots, though it lacks the feel of grim integrity that MK originally had.

Wow, nitpick much? :p

Shao Khan's always looked like a meathead.

[Nihilanth]

Wow, I'm surprised that I say that, but it looks cool. :D I'm not into fighting games, haven't played them since early MK games (up until Trilogy) and will probably not bother with this one but damn, it looks really oldschool! Animation is pretty bad... but overally I like it. :)

[Kien]

Uhm how can animations looks stiff when they are made by motion capture? I assume all modern fighting games uses that.

[Delicieuxz]

Wow, nitpick much? :p

Shao Khan's always looked like a meathead.

Only because the early MK means a lot to me. I disagree about Shao Khan to the extend that it is displayed here, though. He was lean and built like a titan. In this CGI, his face is fat and pudgy, and as I said the mask is too dinky for him. It looks a bit dorky, which doesn't exude the demeanor of a near-invincible demi-god.


Uhm how can animations looks stiff when they are made by motion capture? I assume all modern fighting games uses that.

Well, the question suggests that you've assumed they must be good without taking a look for yourself, especially since some of the bad animations are clearly not mo-cap. Also, I didn't watch from the link in the OP because it wouldn't load for me. I watched the HD ver on gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-mortal-kombat/101130), maybe it's more apparent there.

[WarThrash]

Only because the early MK means a lot to me. I disagree about Shao Khan to the extend that it is displayed here, though. He was lean and built like a titan. In this CGI, his face is fat and pudgy, and as I said the mask is too dinky for him. It looks a bit dorky, which doesn't exude the demeanor of a near-invincible demi-god.


Nah, you're just nitpicking. MK means alot to me as well. I like Shao Khans look. He looks more or less the same as always.

[Delicieuxz]

http://i45.tinypic.com/3328cp4.jpg

^^ This geek would piss his pants if he faced the original Shao Kahn.


http://mortal.shang.free.fr/images/mortal%20kombat/mk2/mk2_kahn.png

[WarThrash]

You mean that cheap bastard who did nothing but swing a hammer and uppercut you? I used to call him "Ol'e 2-move"

[Delicieuxz]

That hammer was ferocious and perhaps the reason why the original Shao Kahn didn't need to give a cheesy smile and glare up with his head angled down, or depend on any other lame, cartoony "I'm pretending to be a bad guy" act when entering into a fight.

[Paroxysm]

He's not really punching the flesh OFF. It's sort of an x-ray view to showcase the brutality of Cage's punches on Sub's bones. A neat feature, actually

Boo! It'd be better if the flesh were being punched off. That'd be like Story Of Ricky awesome.

[MegaMustaine]

I thought Boon had said they wouldn't go the 2D route, but looks like he changed his mind. I personally cannot wait. I bet we get all of the characters from 1, 2, and 3.

[Damien_Azreal]

IIRC they said they were planning on a smaller, more focused cast of characters for the reboot. Sticking mostly with the best and most well known.

[WarThrash]

I was sort of hoping there'd be a mixed bag of 2d arenas and 3d arenas, with the ability to filter out the 2d or 3d ones in MP matches or matches in general. I thought that'd be a pretty cool way to satisfy all MK fans, new and old. I for one enjoyed the 3d arenas. I never played too much MP to begin with.

[MegaMustaine]

IIRC they said they were planning on a smaller, more focused cast of characters for the reboot. Sticking mostly with the best and most well known.

Yeah, but that has to be compared to Armageddon. If they included ALL of the cast from MK 1, 2, 3 and UMK3 it would only be 31 characters. That would include all of the bosses as well which I don't think will happen. I also don't think the U3 characters would be included. If we just included the base MK 1,2,3 characters you would be at somewhere at around 24 which sounds about right.

[Cleric]

IIRC they said they were planning on a smaller, more focused cast of characters for the reboot. Sticking mostly with the best and most well known.

Last I heard, Armageddon was supposed to mark the beginning of a new MK era with new characters...guess not...

[Steve]

This looks great!

[Damien_Azreal]

Last I heard, Armageddon was supposed to mark the beginning of a new MK era with new characters...guess not...

Yeah. While developing Armageddon they said they were intentionally killing off most/if not all the current characters to start fresh.
But that idea was "trashed" a while back. The decision was made to reboot the series when Midway went under and WB got a hold of the IP.

[Rapture_Rising]

That looks awesome... But i smell another RC.

[Karthik]

So....are they interested in making a PC version?

[MegaMustaine]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1098518p1.html

Boon pretty much confirms that every character from 1,2, and 3 will be in the game. It is also an interesting idea that they have going for the story. It isn't necessarily a remake.

[Kien]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1098518p1.html

Boon pretty much confirms that every character from 1,2, and 3 will be in the game. It is also an interesting idea that they have going for the story. It isn't necessarily a remake.
I must ask I feel, who actually likes Kano, Cage, Kabal, Stryker, Rain, Jade? I'm no MK fan but these mentioned + all other characters added in later games except Quan Chi and Shinnok feels boring. Perhaps Shujinko was a good addition since there obviously must be the typical old beardy kung fu master. ;)

[Delicieuxz]

I guess I can say that I have possibly some interest in most of those characters. Didn't use to for Kano, now do. Jade... never did. Kabal, meh on that one. Cage... not initially, but after getting to know his personality from the first movie I guess I kinda opened up to his char, though still not a fav. I guess of them all, Kano is the one I'd like to see again the most.

[Cleric]

Sub Zero reaches into an enemy's chest to freeze then shatter their liver (also an actual move – bless this game)

Wow. Just...wow. I can't wait for this.

[WarThrash]

I love Cage. Ball Buster for the win, baby

[QuiGonJ]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rick_r/4704936319/in/set-72157624285883376/

There's also an X-ray vision mode you can trigger to watch bones getting broken and so on.

The rest of my E3 pics are here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rick_r/sets/72157624285883376/).

[WarThrash]

I'm avoiding trying all pics that have fatalities in them. I want that initial surprise of finding out how awesome they are when I play it for the first time. I did, however, see a pic of Nightwolf getting his head split down the middle. Other than that I'm holding off.

[MegaMustaine]

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6266626/?hd=1

26 characters on the select screen. Neat stage demo, and it makes me super excited for the actual game.

[8IronBob]

Trying to reinvent the wheel again, I see...well, good luck to them...hehe.

[Xgthug]

I hope Noob Siabot is in this one. I never played Armageddon. I wanted to, but by that time I no longer had an Xbox.

I think it's cool how they implemented all of the characters. That's the first time since Mortal Kombat: Trilogy for the PS1 (awesome game, by the way).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Mkt_select.png
You can also select different versions of the characters from all 3 games by hitting a different button.

I would like to see this same treatment given to this reboot, if it doesn't already contain all of the characters. But a re-release or expansion pack with every character would be awesome!

I hope it has a fighter-maker like Armageddon, too.
That's something I always thought the MK games were lacking.

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http://mortal-kombat.en.malavida.com/ - Mortal Kombat Project 4.1

This is supposedly like Trilogy, but for the PC. It is supposed to even cross over MK4 characters into the first 3, but it might only be in a later version, which I could not seem to find.


videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE2WPcO3yAs
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPtXOw7It7g&feature=related

Downloading it right now.

If anyone can find 4.5 or 4.7, please post the link here.

[Cleric]

Wow, that looks like tons of fun. The damage looks especially nice...I can't wait to get my hands on this.

[WarThrash]

Yea I really need to get trilogy. I only have UMK3, but it's awesome too. I like Armageddon, but the kreate a fatality needed to be fleshed out more.

By the way, do one of you mods out there mind changing this thread title to simply "Mortal Kombat (2011)" or something along those lines? Since there are now other videos/info such as a stage demo and such in addition to the trailer?

[Steve]

But a re-release or expansion pack with every character would be awesome!

I hope it has a fighter-maker like Armageddon, too.
That's something I always thought the MK games were lacking.[COLOR="Silver"]

I personally think this is where midway went wrong. The later mortal kombat games had too much crap in them. Too many characters. Too many bullshit options.

The franchise failed because they kept adding crap upon crap upon crap. (anyone that says that mortal kombat didn't fail needs a kick in the balls. Midway went bust for a reason. More shit does not = teh awsum gamez)

Keep stuff simple like MK1, 2 and 3 and focus on refining what they have.

[Xgthug]

I personally think this is where midway went wrong. The later mortal kombat games had too much crap in them. Too many characters. Too many bullshit options.

The franchise failed because they kept adding crap upon crap upon crap. (anyone that says that mortal kombat didn't fail needs a kick in the balls. Midway went bust for a reason. More shit does not = teh awsum gamez)

Keep stuff simple like MK1, 2 and 3 and focus on refining what they have.

If you want simple, play MK1.

MK1 was good for what it was.
MK2 felt like a cartoon to me, although most people consider it to be the best MK game.
MK3 took a step in the right direction. Darker, meaner, grittier.
MK4 was a good transition into 3D gaming, while still maintaining the gameplay value of the previous games.
MK Deadly Alliance felt very polished and solid, maintained the same mood as
MK3, and although the gameplay felt different, it was great once you got used to it.
MK Deception felt kind of like a DA mod. While the "Journey Mode" or whatever felt pretty stupid, I don't see how any of the bonus games or features affected the gameplay at all. Good game nonetheless.
MK Shaolin Monks... Eh... At least it's better games like this get made rather than have that Journey Mode or whatever in the real MK games. I kind of like the spinoff games, especially that sidescroller Sub-Zero one for the Playstation.

I have not played Armageddon or MK vs. DC Universe, but they both look amazing and I want to.

I do not think Mortal Kombat should take a simpler "back to basics" approach. I like my games complex, with a shitload of options and customization.
I always loved the Mortal Kombat games, but they had piss poor replay value after you've beaten them, learned all the special moves, unlocked everything, and kicked your friends ass a thousand times in vs mode.

I like my games to be abundant in content and unlockables, so they never get stale.

So yeah... Pile that shit on, mothaflucka. :p

[WarThrash]

If you want simple, play MK1.

MK1 was good for what it was.
MK2 felt like a cartoon to me, although most people consider it to be the best MK game.
MK3 took a step in the right direction. Darker, meaner, grittier.
MK4 was a good transition into 3D gaming, while still maintaining the gameplay value of the previous games.
MK Deadly Alliance felt very polished and solid, maintained the same mood as
MK3, and although the gameplay felt different, it was great once you got used to it.
MK Deception felt kind of like a DA mod. While the "Journey Mode" or whatever felt pretty stupid, I don't see how any of the bonus games or features affected the gameplay at all. Good game nonetheless.
MK Shaolin Monks... Eh... At least it's better games like this get made rather than have that Journey Mode or whatever in the real MK games. I kind of like the spinoff games, especially that sidescroller Sub-Zero one for the Playstation.

I have not played Armageddon or MK vs. DC Universe, but they both look amazing and I want to.

I do not think Mortal Kombat should take a simpler "back to basics" approach. I like my games complex, with a shitload of options and customization.
I always loved the Mortal Kombat games, but they had piss poor replay value after you've beaten them, learned all the special moves, unlocked everything, and kicked your friends ass a thousand times in vs mode.

I like my games to be abundant in content and unlockables, so they never get stale.

So yeah... Pile that shit on, mothaflucka. :p

Yup :cool:

[MegaMustaine]

I personally think this is where midway went wrong. The later mortal kombat games had too much crap in them. Too many characters. Too many bullshit options.

The franchise failed because they kept adding crap upon crap upon crap. (anyone that says that mortal kombat didn't fail needs a kick in the balls. Midway went bust for a reason. More shit does not = teh awsum gamez)

Keep stuff simple like MK1, 2 and 3 and focus on refining what they have.

The MK franchise didn't bring Midway down, it was everything else. Each MK game whether you liked them or not, sold more than well enough to justify the next one being made. As a matter of fact I believe that every one of the newer MK games was a greatest hit on the PS2 and MK vs DC was definitely a platinum hit on the 360 and probably a greatest hit on the PS3.

[Kien]

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[/COLOR]http://mortal-kombat.en.malavida.com/ - Mortal Kombat Project 4.1

This is supposedly like Trilogy, but for the PC. It is supposed to even cross over MK4 characters into the first 3, but it might only be in a later version, which I could not seem to find.


videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE2WPcO3yAs
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPtXOw7It7g&feature=related

Downloading it right now.

If anyone can find 4.5 or 4.7, please post the link here.
Woho I finaly got to play as Kintaro. :D

[Steve]

The MK franchise didn't bring Midway down, it was everything else. Each MK game whether you liked them or not, sold more than well enough to justify the next one being made. As a matter of fact I believe that every one of the newer MK games was a greatest hit on the PS2 and MK vs DC was definitely a platinum hit on the 360 and probably a greatest hit on the PS3.

Come on now. MK franchise has been going down hill for years. The die hard fans can't seem to see what was wrong with it (or do!). Read around. People don't exactly hold Mortal Kombat in high regard anymore. It's a joke because of those games. They added too much.

Why do you think this new one looks so awesome? Why do you think this is getting more attention than other Mortal Kombat titles over the years? Think about that for a second. Tell me why this is getting a lot more attention compared to the other titles. There IS a reason for this. I'm sure you can guess why. Or not. It's up to you. One of the Mortal Kombat artists advised Ed Boon himself that they needed to go back to the core look and the core play. Ed Boon ignored that man. Now what are they doing? Going back to the core look and core play. Go figure.

As for stating that if I liked them or not, they sold well enough to justify the next one? Sure good point. Britney spears sold a lot of albums - she can't sing (ie, crap can sell). Mortal Kombat isn't an amazing seller these days. It's not because people don't like fighters (see Street Fighter 4 :love:) it's because they really did lack the polish of the old games. They felt rushed. But that honestly doesn't mean the Mortal Kombat franchise hasn't had problems over the years. To me you are suggesting that the franchise hasn't had a single problem. It has.

I'm sure we can have a healthy discussion with this. Awww yeah vidya gamez and such! :D ;)

If you want simple, play MK1.

I'm in the process of restoring a Mortal Kombat 1 Arcade machine


So yeah... Pile that shit on, mothaflucka. :p

[Kit]

Come on now. MK franchise has been going down hill for years. The die hard fans can't seem to see what was wrong with it (or do!). Read around. People don't exactly hold Mortal Kombat in high regard anymore. It's a joke because of those games. They added too much.


This.

More craziness, less characters with identical move sets cluttering up the screen please. ;p

[Damien_Azreal]

.....
MK3 took a step in the right direction. Darker, meaner, grittier.
....

Sorry but I have to completely disagree with that.
A bloated, cluttered cast of characters with people nobody cares about or wanted. Adding in stupid ass friendships, babalities, animatlities... and an extremely flawed combo system because other fighters had it... no.

MK3 was not darker or grittier then the previous two games. MK3, IMO, was where the MK series first started to falter and drift away from the cruel, brutal nature that made MK great.
They got in the mindset that adding more and more made the game better, when instead it simply cluttered the game and made the fighting feel... chunky.

The first two MK games had a great flow and pace to them. They were fast, brutal and smooth. Adding in various combos, fighting systems and weapons... only detracted away from what made MK a good game.

[Kien]

@Damien_Azreal
Uhm how can you not think MK3 was darker than first 2? Grittyness level is the same I guess. But the whole feel of the game is darker. The first 2 was nothing special, just very violent. When you start up MK3 it clearly has a special dark spooky feel to it. Weather it suits MK or not I donno.

And I must ask how you can complain about addition of combos. I'm no real MK player but AFAK the first MK games had simply 4 identical attacks for each character and then like 4 unique moves. Do you think combos are a bad concept in general?

I donno about weapons that came in MK4, if they were a good idea or not.

[Damien_Azreal]

How can I think that? Easy... because I do. Amazing isn't it, the concept of different opinions.

No, combos are not a bad concept. It's not the addition of combos that bothers me... it's... really hard to explain. Yes, MK's combat is simple... straight forward, two punches... two kicks... but it was smooth. Brutal... violent (as you said).
In MK3 the addition of combos seemed like a good idea. But upon seeing them, the game didn't feel as smooth. It felt like the pacing of the fights was thrown off to accommodate the addition of combos.

And honestly, saying the first 2 MK games were nothing special... that's just... wow. In my eyes, MK2 still stands as the best in the series. best cast of characters, arenas... it was fast paced, smooth, brutal... with just enough black humor to still be dark and gritty without being stupid.

Mk3 tries to be dark. But fails. The addition of combos makes the fights seem less brutal and over the top... which detracts from a bit of the gritty feeling. Some of the new characters were just... stupid... and again, took away from the dark feeling of the game. The babalities and friendships moves were just... so f***ing stupid.
Making a bunch of spooky looking arenas doesn't equal a dark and gritty game.

Weapons added in MK4 was a horrible idea. Made even worse with Deadly Alliance when the concept was taken even further.

[WarThrash]

Nah, I like UMK3 way better than any of the previous titles. Combos, fast pace, cooler backdrops. But anyway the cool thing about this title is that there will be 26 characters (more than enough, plus DLC) but NO one will share moves and/or animations. Everyone is individual in their own moveset and behavior. And about the weapons....eh I liked em. I like Scorpion and Sub duking it out with swords.

[MegaMustaine]

Come on now. MK franchise has been going down hill for years. The die hard fans can't seem to see what was wrong with it (or do!). Read around. People don't exactly hold Mortal Kombat in high regard anymore. It's a joke because of those games. They added too much.

Why do you think this new one looks so awesome? Why do you think this is getting more attention than other Mortal Kombat titles over the years? Think about that for a second. Tell me why this is getting a lot more attention compared to the other titles. There IS a reason for this. I'm sure you can guess why. Or not. It's up to you. One of the Mortal Kombat artists advised Ed Boon himself that they needed to go back to the core look and the core play. Ed Boon ignored that man. Now what are they doing? Going back to the core look and core play. Go figure.

As for stating that if I liked them or not, they sold well enough to justify the next one? Sure good point. Britney spears sold a lot of albums - she can't sing (ie, crap can sell). Mortal Kombat isn't an amazing seller these days. It's not because people don't like fighters (see Street Fighter 4 :love:) it's because they really did lack the polish of the old games. They felt rushed. But that honestly doesn't mean the Mortal Kombat franchise hasn't had problems over the years. To me you are suggesting that the franchise hasn't had a single problem. It has.

I'm sure we can have a healthy discussion with this. Awww yeah vidya gamez and such! :D ;)


I'm in the process of restoring a Mortal Kombat 1 Arcade machine


So yeah... Pile that shit on, mothaflucka. :p

I don't think I ever stated my opinion on quality. I just stated the simple fact that you were completely wrong about the MK franchise being one of the reasons Midway crumbled. The fact of the matter is that MK was one of the only games that kept Midway out of bankruptcy.

Now if you do want my opinion on their recent games, I do think that they were good. I have enjoyed all of the MK games in one way or another and do not think that they have been bad at all. If you took the time to get to know the fighting system, they were pretty damn great actually. Even better than, the recently revived SFIV IMHO.

[WarThrash]

Now if you do want my opinion on their recent games, I do think that they were good. I have enjoyed all of the MK games in one way or another and do not think that they have been bad at all. If you took the time to get to know the fighting system, they were pretty damn great actually. Even better than, the recently revived SFIV IMHO.

Yeah, I really agree. I never played MK4, but I have enjoyed the games afterwards. They're especially fun once you learn how everything works. I remember pulling off some really long combos on Deception as Scorpion :cool:

[Delicieuxz]

If you want simple, play MK1.

MK1 was good for what it was.
MK2 felt like a cartoon to me, although most people consider it to be the best MK game.
MK3 took a step in the right direction. Darker, meaner, grittier.


I think MK 2 has a much darker and sinister feel than MK 3. Fighting in a subway station instead of a demonic forest, an urban street instead of a chamber of acid, and it goes on and on. Then there're cyborgs which didn't help conjure a mystical eerie evil feel, an then also numbers popping up on the screen to tell you how many hits you had in a row. Imo, MK3 had the most cartoon-spirit yet of the series on its release.

[Xgthug]

I think the first three games were all good in their own way, and definitely go hand in hand. I'm not bashing MK1 or MK2, but I don't think that anyone else here should be bashing MK3.

I don't think there are any complaints of all three games being merged together. (MK Trilogy and MK Project) Then everybody gets what they want.

[Steve]

I just stated the simple fact that you were completely wrong about the MK franchise being one of the reasons Midway crumbled. The fact of the matter is that MK was one of the only games that kept Midway out of bankruptcy.

Ah, very well. In that case I was wrong :)


Now if you do want my opinion on their recent games, I do think that they were good. I have enjoyed all of the MK games in one way or another and do not think that they have been bad at all. If you took the time to get to know the fighting system, they were pretty damn great actually. Even better than, the recently revived SFIV IMHO.

You and I have very different tastes when it comes to fighters it seems. I really have not enjoyed a Mortal Kombat since number 4. I honestly think midway really stacked too much stuff into the games, resulting in quantity rather than quality.

Although, you haven't answered my question as to why this new MK is getting a lot more attention over the other "new" titles before it. There must be a reason for that ;) People are pretty hyped up, myself included.

[WarThrash]

Ah, very well. In that case I was wrong :)
Although, you haven't answered my question as to why this new MK is getting a lot more attention over the other "new" titles before it. There must be a reason for that ;) People are pretty hyped up, myself included.

Well it is the first true Mortal Kombat on new gen consoles, so that could have something to do with it. That and the fact that MK vs DC left people wanting their fatalities/gore back.

[8IronBob]

Yeah, the first NATIVE MK game on new-gen consoles...not to mention that the game they had on the Wii was a PS2 port.