Weapons for MP2

[Darkreaver]

What kind of weapons would you like to see in MP2.

[Maddieman]

If they put a katana in the game I will not be amused. graemlins/tinyted.gif

Actually, I think they covered pretty much everything in the game. I'd rather not see countless variations of the same weapon (like in most mods). I'd prefer some more unque weapons (but leave some of the novelty weapons to us modders images/icons/wink.gif ), and perhaps a few different weapon setups (mixmatching dual weapons would be good).

However, I think more moves/actions would be interesting.

[Kev_Hectic]

^ What Maddie said images/icons/grin.gif

I would like to see Max have more moves too, maybe give Max the ability to use his fists once in a while, or add a little more interaction between Max and his foes during close combat. For example, being able to snatch weapons out of the enemies’ hands and give the enemies the ability to do the same to Max, or let Max pistol whip people when his gun is out of ammo. Things like that.

A pair of handcuffs would be pretty sweet as well, he could use them to handcuff the enemies to things so they would'nt run off anywhere, or he could beat them to a pulp while they're cuffed to things.

[shiranui]

Originally posted by Kev_Hectic:

A pair of handcuffs would be pretty sweet as well, he could use them to handcuff the enemies to things so they would'nt run off anywhere, or he could beat them to a pulp while they're cuffed to things. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">now THAT would be cool

[The Baskinator]

Slick Shoes, Bully Blinders and Pinchers Of Power.

[j]

A dessert eagle.. images/icons/tongue.gif

I'd like to see no explosives at all. In any game. I hate explosives.

[biXen]

A 12 inch black rubber ****

Like in Lock Stock, hehe, better than a cod no doubt, slappin em upside their head...

I'd like to meet an enemy that doesn't shoot at Max...

[Cathome]

Big bone...
Possibly chaingun

[MikaRMD]

hydrogen bomb...no...that was supposed to be a secret... images/icons/shocked.gif

[Mad_Max]

A trout! If there's no trout which can be used to slap enemies with I'll not buy the game!! images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/wink.gif

Apart from that, I dunno... I think that Max has all the weapons he need already to beat all these thugs. images/icons/smile.gif

[Darkreaver]

A hockey stick would be great.

[Kev_Boy]

Loads of oddball weapons, hockeysticks...yeah images/icons/tongue.gif

But also stuff such as forks, plates and kitchen knives images/icons/wink.gif

In a nutshell -> Loads of cool little thing images/icons/smile.gif

[The Baskinator]

A dessert eagle.. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">A delicious cake gun with lots of frosting - Max can tempt his foes with dessert.

*laughs* images/icons/grin.gif

[Maddieman]

^ You're in luck. images/icons/tongue.gif

cod mod v1 (http://www.zer0mods.com/~maddieman/max_cod.zip)

[Gatinater]

The MP5K. Not the MP5KPDW. The MP5K. A.K.A MP5 Short. Dual MP5Ks would be a nice change from the Ingram. The CAR-15 is a keeper. By the way the CAR-15 and the Commando are the same gun. These days it's known as the Commado. Back during vietnam it was known as the CAR-15. Today it's known as the CAR-15 XX17 Commando. So I was right to begin with. The Commando is a new version of the CAR-15. Their was a big argument before Payne's release. I said hey! that's a CAR-15. After that all hell broke loose.

This time let's Hook Maxup with a 10 chambered revolving 40mm grenade launcher. I think it's an MM-1, but I'm not sure.

How bout a a light machinegun. Something from FN preferably. Something styling, yet devistating.

[neeek]

the thing was in mp1 there was just too many weapons, dont get me wrong i love all the cool types of guns you can carry but most of the guns in it i didnt use much cos the pump action shotgun is what i mainly use if i want that one shot kill and not just waste too many bullets just to kill one person.
i just wanted to mention what guns were in mp1 for those that wanted to know:
berreta/duals
uzi/dual
pump action/sawnoff shotgun
desert eagle
commando
snipergun
grenades/molotov's

you see, the shotgun rules cos one shot is all it takes. berreta's:you need just 3 or more shots just to take him/her down
uzi's: fast but bullets get wasted to quickly
desert eagle: nice, powerful takes a guy out pretty quick but has 12 clip too small
commando: great gun, pretty strong.

in mp2 id like to see sum balance in the weapons and see them have alternative fire modes that most ppl want nowadays, also having the choice of butting the gun on anothers head so as to be discreet for sneaking levels and not waste bullets that would be good. and id also expect the weapons in mp2 will have great accuracy unlike mp1 where it takes 4 or so shots in the head just so he/she dies, i mean thats not right. and one more thing, the choice to toggle in 1st person mode or 3rd or kinda style of viewing and play the game.

what i was wondering was if remedy was gonna implement a targeting system like what syphon filter or gta: vice city has, if they were gonna release it on both ps2 or xbox.

[biXen]

neeek: If you wanna play sneaking games, play Splinter Cell, Max Payne ain't a subtle guy.

Gatinator: The CAR-15 does not equal the Colt Commando, we have proved this a thousand times now, Skaven even posted some fact sites about it.

[The Baskinator]

I have a feeling that this thread will suffer the same fate as the other Max Payne 2 weapons thread. (http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=003408)

Slick Shoes, Bully Blinders and Pinchers Of Power. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">...And why the hell doesn't anybody get this joke?! images/icons/confused.gif

[Kev_Hectic]

^ I did, but I never bothered replying images/icons/grin.gif It's eithera joke from the Simpsons or one from the Goonies (Remember the kid named Data with all the slick gadgets?)

[Maddieman]

Originally posted by The Baskinator:
I have a feeling that this thread will suffer the same fate as the other Max Payne 2 weapons thread. (http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=003408)


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That turned quite ugly - I'm glad I missed it.

Overall, I think the final roster of weaponry will be pretty similar to the first game - maybe the odd surprise here and there, but nothing that new.

Neek, were you saying that there were too many weapons in Max Payne? Personally, I disagree, especially when you compare them to all these realism games that are so popular now. Ignoring minor differences in firing rates, ammo, and so on; I think just about every basic type of gun is provided.

However, I'd like to see the dual weapons tweaked a bit. The berettas were too weedy to be of any use - even in shootdodging they were always my last resort. On the other hand, the dual ingrams were too much - more often than not, I found myself switching to a single ingram.

I think the problem boils down to the reactions of the enemies - even if the bullet doesn't inflict significant damage to the enemy, it should still look and sound as if it did. In addition, they need to react to each and every projectile - even if they are dying or dead.

Perfect Dark/Goldeneye still remains the textbook example of this, in my opinion. I can't think of another game where sadistically torturing a guard to death, by shooting them in semi-lethal areas (limbs, etc) is genuinely satisfying - to the extent where you don't actually want to kill them. Then again, maybe I'm a just psychopath; but the fact that the game doesn't degenerate down to gibbing only furthers the point.

I think game realism is based on an expectancy/reward system: - the player performs an action in which they expect to be rewarded with a specific reaction. If this action isn't rewarded to their satisfaction, then the player becomes somewhat discontent (and starts writing stupidly long, boring posts bitching about it). The task, therefore, is to either think of all of the actions a player might try (DNF anyone?); or to encourage the player to think in a certain way - subtle suggestions (such as music) used to dissuade them from trying things that will obviously not reward.

...Failing that, a chainsaw pretty much sells a game, too. images/icons/tongue.gif

EDIT:

Very Quick Correction! images/icons/smile.gif

I was just reading this thread (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=006693), which promptly reminded me of Devil May Cry - I think it's just about relevant to everything I wrote above. First off, it had a very select number of weapons which were balanced to match enemy type. For example, even though the dual pistols were the default weapon; they were still fun to use, because you could switch between them and the sword seamlessly. The game's use of music and style shaped the player's thoughts on how to play and what to expect. All of which primarily benefited the combat engine which was what 99% of the game was about.

[ 12-27-2002, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Maddieman ]

[The Baskinator]

Originally posted by Kev_Hectic:
^ I did, but I never bothered replying images/icons/grin.gif It's eithera joke from the Simpsons or one from the Goonies (Remember the kid named Data with all the slick gadgets?) <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The Goonies! \o/ graemlins/love.gif Data 4-Ever. graemlins/love.gif

[Gatinater]

Originally posted by biXen:
neeek: If you wanna play sneaking games, play Splinter Cell, Max Payne ain't a subtle guy.

Gatinator: The CAR-15 does not equal the Colt Commando, we have proved this a thousand times now, Skaven even posted some fact sites about it. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Really? I found a site through colt that shows the old muzzle and the new muzzle of the rifle. The Colt Commando is offically the Car-15 XX17 Commando. I can take one no brainer guess and guess that renamed to the new weapon the commando. It was designed for and is used by commandos. It was first Used by the LRRPS in vietnam.

For a while I thought it was a different weapon too until I found it on the designers website labeled as the CAR-15 XX17 Commando. Did skaven design the rifle? I'm pretty sure he didn't Did the designer design the rifle? I'm pretty sure he did.

The original Car-15 had more problems than the M16A1. The M16A2 is an improved A1 and the Commando is an improved Car-15

Maybe someone or a lot of people are confused. The car-15 and the AR- 15 are two different weapons. I think a lot of people are confusing the two.

Anyways someone mentioned uzi's. Those are not Uzis they are MAC10s. They originaly were Ingram10s Then the Military amorment corps purchased the design and they became the MAC10. Now I think(I'm not sure) FN owns that design because FN makes FN10s now and I don't think MAC produces them because they only produce currently used weapons by the US military. I'm not sure though because FN also manufactures M16A2s and as we know that's the only thing keeping Colt in buisness.

[j]

How about no guns at all?

With the unstable political issues in North Korea and Iraq, I think Remedy should do their part in bringing about peace and love to the world by having Max give out valentine's cards and flowers.

Maybe Max could have a guitar or an ukulele even! He could sing stuff about peace and love!

And change that hawaii-shirt he's wearing to a cool tie dyed acid-y shirt. And he could lick stamps too.. only, "stamps"..

Oh well, small guns that spray bullets everywhere really fast are always a nice touch.

[biXen]

Originally posted by Gatinater:
Really? I found a site through colt that shows the old muzzle and the new muzzle of the rifle. The Colt Commando is offically the Car-15 XX17 Commando. I can take one no brainer guess and guess that renamed to the new weapon the commando. It was designed for and is used by commandos. It was first Used by the LRRPS in vietnam.

For a while I thought it was a different weapon too until I found it on the designers website labeled as the CAR-15 XX17 Commando. Did skaven design the rifle? I'm pretty sure he didn't Did the designer design the rifle? I'm pretty sure he did.

The original Car-15 had more problems than the M16A1. The M16A2 is an improved A1 and the Commando is an improved Car-15

Maybe someone or a lot of people are confused. The car-15 and the AR- 15 are two different weapons. I think a lot of people are confusing the two.

Anyways someone mentioned uzi's. Those are not Uzis they are MAC10s. They originaly were Ingram10s Then the Military amorment corps purchased the design and they became the MAC10. Now I think(I'm not sure) FN owns that design because FN makes FN10s now and I don't think MAC produces them because they only produce currently used weapons by the US military. I'm not sure though because FN also manufactures M16A2s and as we know that's the only thing keeping Colt in buisness. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The one they call Colt Commando is based on the same things, but those called XM whatever are adapted as XM whatever, earlier Commando models are now called XM something and so on. But the Colt Commando is the Colt Commando, the CAR-15 is the original, and it's based on it, but DUH, that doesn't make it the same gun. A 911 Turbo isn't just a 911 Turbo, they change and are upgraded, and Commando is the same that 997 is as a description of the Porsche. It's explained here:

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as50-e.htm

Case closed.

[ 12-28-2002, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: biXen ]

[RollingBrass]

NO! NOT THIS AGAIN! images/icons/mad.gif

[Maddieman]

Case closed. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I highly doubt it. It seems that the Baskinator's prediction will come true after all.

Hard to believe how picky some people get with their guns. The only thing I'm really interested in is how they look, sound, and affect the game characters. I hope Remedy don't limit themselves to real life constraints. Like I said before, Max Payne is about escapism, not realism.

[Guest]

My first post!!!

Here are some improvements I'd like to see in MP2:

Ok, Max is a NY cop. NYPD issues Glocks as their standard sidearm. Give him dual G17's instead of Berettas.

Ditch the Desert Eagle. Its been played out in way too many games/movies, and IMO not a very good handgun....makes a fine boat anchor though. Replace with a mag revolver or (my pick) a 1911.

More rifles to choose from. Maybe an AK variant or FAL?

[kemical]

whatever weapons are in the game, dont make them shiny or plastic-looking.

this is a personal preference, but i hate shiny glossy weapons in games, especially when they just dont have a feeling of weight to them or solidness.

they need to look rugged, used, matte and heavy and menacing, not shiny glossy stuff. *shrug*

dont ask me how one achieves that though images/icons/grin.gif

its just.. i dunno, the double barreled shotguns were "eh" the grenade launcher was a chrome plastic tube to me, and definatly "ehhh" ... etc

..edit..
details like some people having tape wrapped around their weapons handgrip or whatever, scratches, just general ruggedness.. which isn't easy to achieve i guess when its 3rd person and the weapon is small compared to the character model and everything else.

just no shiny plastic chrome please. images/icons/smile.gif

[ 01-01-2003, 04:18 AM: Message edited by: kemical ]

[biXen]

Because of the involvement with Russian mob he should have seen a AK-47. And personally I'd like a steyr AUG or a G36K, but they are just different and better than the Commando, not really a different type of weapon, so I dunno what they'll do with this issue.

[Cathome]

Do you really think that there should be AK 47? There are many other good Russian weapon.

Glock 18 is preferable.

[biXen]

Originally posted by Cathome:
Do you really think that there should be AK 47? There are many other good Russian weapon.

Glock 18 is preferable. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hasn't got anything with what's good or not. It's more about what's useful, more likely to appear, etc.

[Alianant]

Id like to see him be able to walk up behind a guy and use him as a shield like in dead to rights! That would be sweet.

Smoe cooler wepons would be a cool. Like a revolver. Minigun(already said) and a taser instead of a baseball bat or lead pipe! That would be cool. Walk up behind a guy and taser his head! HEHE. I ahve thoughts about that in my head now!


MAKE A TASTER MOD!!

[Maddieman]

Minigun(already said) <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The one in Bladerunner Evolution is good; and the true matrix tc one is ok, too.

[Mr. Person]

Glock 18! Yes! Dual Glock 18's! Yes! Yes! YES! Being able to put 36 rounds into somebody before they hit the floor sounds like fun.

If a Commando is an improved CAR-15, what the hell is the M4 Commando?

[The Dude]

How about one of those telescopic batons as another melee weapon?

[Marty]

tommy gun
and brass knuckles

[Piano Man]

I would like to see him pick up irregular thing like chairs to smack over peoples heads or pieces of wood, Anything that is moveable.

I would like to see this also.

I would like a Directors camera of sort. If your sick and tired of the regular behind max camera, I would like the camera to change like in Zelda of the N 64. You walk into a room and the camera could be in front of you, or if you could free change the camera if you wanted.

[Maddieman]

I have a question, maybe I should make it another thread, or even a poll, but anyway it's quite brief:

Did anyone use the leadpipe at all?

It was totally useless! I don't think I ever bothered.

[biXen]

Originally posted by Joe3DR:
Actually, attempting to play certain parts of the game with just the leadpipe is a challenge.

Know the place where Max is being whacked with a baseball bat and you have to get out of there? Try killing EVERYONE in that scenario with just the lead pipe. I did it - and it's a bitch. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">*looks around* Well... if noone else is gonna say this... Joe... you really gotta find some hobbies now. This is going too far... images/icons/wink.gif

[bullion]

Originally posted by Joe3DR:
Actually, attempting to play certain parts of the game with just the leadpipe is a challenge.

Know the place where Max is being whacked with a baseball bat and you have to get out of there? Try killing EVERYONE in that scenario with just the lead pipe. I did it - and it's a bitch. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">there's a little glitch in max payne which lets you easilly kill everyone with the lead pipe/baseball bat in almost every level...

[Joe Siegler]

Actually, attempting to play certain parts of the game with just the leadpipe is a challenge.

Know the place where Max is being whacked with a baseball bat and you have to get out of there? Try killing EVERYONE in that scenario with just the lead pipe. I did it - and it's a bitch.

[Maddieman]

There is? images/icons/confused.gif

[Omario]

Tell us for we are all curious of mind, and as for the guns in mp2, hmmm... ... ... ... ... ... ... change the m79 for some disk rotating grenade woopy thingy like in SOF II ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Ak47?... ... ... ... ... ... I'm all outta ideas but im tryin... ... ... ... ... ... *wacks himself in the head*... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...replace uzis with those scorpion thingys, forget wut there called, somethin with scorpion... ... ... ... ... ... ... thinkin about it now, with all the mods and stuff why do we need a Ma-*"Omario, don't think like that or I'll have to kill you," he said to himself, "Sorry," he replied with utmost sincerity and shame.* ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...knives?... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...mounted weapons would be nice... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...heavy machine guns(m60)?... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...uhhh... ... ... ... ... ....Trip mines?... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... tommy guns?... ... ... ... ... ... ... thats bout i- ROCKET LAUN-wait, no point really, and there is already a lot of egzageration in how much he can fit in his jacket... ... ... ... ... ... ... yeah thats it...PLASTIC BAG!! images/icons/shocked.gif

[ 01-21-2003, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: Omario ]

[Maddieman]

... ... ...knives?... ... ... ... ... ....Trip mines?... ... ... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Reroute (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=001806)

[Omario]

am talkin bout max payne2.... me lost and confused

[Joe Siegler]

Originally posted by biXen:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Joe3DR:
Actually, attempting to play certain parts of the game with just the leadpipe is a challenge.

Know the place where Max is being whacked with a baseball bat and you have to get out of there? Try killing EVERYONE in that scenario with just the lead pipe. I did it - and it's a bitch. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">*looks around* Well... if noone else is gonna say this... Joe... you really gotta find some hobbies now. This is going too far... images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have an excuse. It's my job to play games. And at the end of a testing cycle, trust me - you start looking for weird things like that just to break the monotony of playing the same thing over and over again.

[neeek]

i played mp1 thru all the levels using the
leadpipe. man its so fun kinda challenging tho, its really all in using the straffing, pressing jump while holding the left/right arrows for heaps of rolling around the for avoiding shots,
using bullettime for the right moment and timing, just knowing where the enemies are positioned and placed and when they pop out of nowhere and how they react when they see you and what weapon they use against you, i tell you its pretty easy if you can get the hang of it as long as you dont get too killed often.

just remember tho mp1 has self adjusting difficulty so if youre getting good at killing baddies they'll get harder and harder so even if youre handy with the leadpipe, its only cos the baddies are easy to kill once the game knows how many times you died and it adjusts the ai difficulty for you to complete thru.

what joe said regarding the level in which after
max breaks free from the chair where he was getting whacked around with a baseball bat, i know how to kill all those baddies that walk around the area in a circular fashion. basically you pop out of the door that leads you thru the area the enemies are hanging around let them spot u so they can go after you. EVERYONE will come after you even the other baddies in the middle of the whole are. so you run back in2 the room where you broke away from the chair and collected the baseball bat and you stand way near the doorway and start swinging the bat so everytime the baddie tries to go thru that door they get hit and they die, EVERY ONE OF THEM. there's like 8 of them, they try to come after you thru that room and they die soo easily cos your swinging your bat and your standing near a wall but close enuff for your bat to hit them. consider one more baddie that doesnt go into the room and he's waiting for you to come out and die. so you just jump-roll thru the door and roll near hiom and quickly swing you bat at his ugly head. what a way to kill all those "smart dangerous guys" eh ? images/icons/smile.gif

[biXen]

The leadpipe/baseball bat has such a shitty impact when it hit's the enemies that I didn't bother using it much. They should have some more ballcrunching sound when you smash someone's head in. Get that M rating stamped on tight... hehe...

[Maddieman]

Evil Bump. graemlins/tinyted.gif

Just thought of these while reading the other thread.

I'd like to see a decent FN-P90 in Max Payne 2; perhaps a hand held one like Goldeneye and Mgs2. I don't think single handed versions actually exist in real life, but they're cool nonetheless; which is what counts imo. images/icons/tongue.gif

The other thing that would make the game a little more interesting is to have customised versions of guns for select characters.

I don't know what Remedy's policy on weapons is this time around (either loads of weapons per type, or 1 representative for each weapon-type); but the basic concept is that one of the main enemy/boss characters has a modified version of a standard weapon (like the desert eagle). The idea being that this character is special in such a way that he has a unique weapon.

Not only would this add some depth to the character; but remember that the weapon is a collector's item. If done properly, it could have a slight impact on the length of the game - since players tend to like extra nick-knacks, and bonus features.

The weapon could be awarded either by completing the game on a harder difficulty, or, preferably, by discovering some secret aspect of the level. Whatever the case, the player should feel like they've earned it, rather than it being a standard part of the level.

In Perfect Dark, Trent Easton had this incredible looking gold plated version of the magnum revolver with a tiger-skin grip. On paper this added even more to the already cool character concept; pity Rare screwed him up with awful voice acting, and dialogue. graemlins/doh.gif

Anyway, just an idea to spice up the game a bit (er, not that it needs it, that is...) images/icons/smile.gif

[ 02-17-2003, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: Maddieman ]

[Medic]

I know! I know! Give him that swiss knife that Magyver always had! images/icons/grin.gif

[Killer Suit]

Black glasses and a headphone... Just like me.
And a Colt Commando, maybe a Desert Eagle. That's all I need.

[Killer Suit]

Hey Maddie, you're the man! You've said everything. It's nice to talk to people like you.

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

Yeah, Max should be just like Macgyver, he should also be able to make explosives out of anything that he can reach.

[Medic]

Now you've got the idea! And he should be able to make an airplane out of two peaces of paper and a bucket. images/icons/smile.gif images/icons/grin.gif

[RollingBrass]

Originally posted by Medic:
Now you've got the idea! And he should be able to make an airplane out of two peaces of paper and a bucket. images/icons/smile.gif images/icons/grin.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">LMAO! MacGuyver jokes....now all we need are some Charlton Heston jokes and it'll be like the good ol' days of the MP forum images/icons/grin.gif

[Kev_Hectic]

You know what, I would like to see a freeze thrower weapon.

Maybe if you shoot yourself by accident with it you could become cryogenically frozen until you are discovered and un-thawed by apes millions of years in the future. At that point in the game the Apes would throw you in a human prison camp as a slave and your whole mission would be to escape in a stealthy Metal Gear fashion.

As soon as you complete your mission and escaped to freedom, you would go into the second portion of the game, a song and dance number. Max would break out into song singing...

Max: I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-a to chimpan-zee...

No you'll never make a monkey out of me

*Sees the head of the Statue of Liberty*

Max: Oh my God, I was wrong, it was Earth all along...
You've finally made a monkey

Apes: Yes we've finally made a monkey

Max: Yes you've finally made a monkey out of me

Apes: Yes we’ve finally made a monkey out of you

Max: I love you, Dr. Zaius! graemlins/love.gif

I'd like to see that in part 2, or something similar to it images/icons/tongue.gif

(Eh, I tried to put a Charlton Heston joke in there for ya RB images/icons/grin.gif )

[RollingBrass]

But you ripped off The Simpsons in the process! IT'S A TRAVESTY! images/icons/mad.gif IT'S AN OUTRAGE! images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif ITS......IT'S.....

SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE OUT OF PEOPLE! IT'S PEEEEEOOOPLLLLLLLLLEEEE!!!!

/falls to the ground raising fist to the sky

[Kev_Hectic]

^ I can't help it, whenever I think of planet of the Apes that episode of the Simpson’s pops into my head. The play with Troy McClure was golden... how could I not shamelessly rip it off? images/icons/tongue.gif

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

How about a gun that shoots traps that cause the enemies to become food when they get sucked into the traps. MMMMmmmm...tastes like chicken.

[Medic]

And then he could suck their blood and feast on their bodies images/icons/mad.gif ... Ups..... Got a little carried away there images/icons/grin.gif

[turmeric]

i dont see how max payne could ever be a cop. think of the thousands of families of dead mobsters who would be protesting against the police rehiring him. not to mention the innocents he kills.

but just in case he does get rehired,

1. i think max payne should be able to drop subpoenas on people

2. max payne should have warrants to search property.

3. max payne should have an evidence camera, a little digital minicam, possibly a satellite phone/modem he could instantly upload evidence to. this would doubtless convince some of the lower-level thugs to cooperate. not all mobsters are so 'brave' that they will fight to the death.

4. max payne should be able to hire johnnie cochran.

[tommulder]

well, max was a cop, and then the DEA so live w/it.

Max never killed an innocent person actually...

And as for using the baseball bat to kill everyone in the escape level thingy, they dont have to be through the door, you can swing the bat through the wall graemlins/doh.gif

[Sofa]

I'd like to see an axe. A big, sturdy axe. Perhaps, if you hit someone hard enough, you have to really haul on it to get it unstuck graemlins/mryuck.gif

Could be gritty enough for Max, I think. That, or give him a mobile woodchipper images/icons/wink.gif

[Darkreaver]

I want to see the two Ballers from Hitman 2,they pack quite a punch.Is that the real name of the guns or not, I'm not sure. images/icons/confused.gif