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FullMetalJacket
10-01-2003, 02:07 PM
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Yeah. Just look at this screenshot, the weapon Max is holding is most obviously a Colt Commando. http://www.paynereactor.com/images/screenshots/maxpaynetwo08.jpg

However, I got a little concerned when I watched one of the gameplay videos and it said Max's equipped weapon was a "M4 carbine." I knew that Remedy knew better than to misidentify a weapon like that....
But then I looked at this new screenshot. The elongated barrel and muzzle make this weapon Max is holding, most definitely an M4 carbine. http://www.paynereactor.com/images/screenshots/maxpaynetwo31.jpg

So what do you think? Do you think we'll have both weapons, or we're just getting the M4 and the Commando was just put into the early screenshots as a "placeholder"?

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mullen
10-01-2003, 02:17 PM
i don't really think both will be in the game as they are a very similar weapon, i am guessing it will be one or the other.
Variable
10-01-2003, 02:26 PM
Isn't the only real discernable difference between the two (at least from looking at them) the barrel length?
Champ32
10-01-2003, 05:15 PM
It's just a government conspiracy
KillJoy
10-01-2003, 05:42 PM
IMO, the first shot is old, and they probably updated the model.

Who knows, although I do not see the point to have two very similiar weapons, that some wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.

All is good though, we will find out soon enough. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
FullMetalJacket
10-01-2003, 07:01 PM
Isn't the only real discernable difference between the two (at least from looking at them) the barrel length?



In terms of gameplay? Probably.

Although in real life, the M4's longer barrel and muzzle grant it greater range, accuracy, and effectiveness. And it's not as if an M4 is useless for CQB, as it has a retractable stock. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Nessus
10-01-2003, 07:15 PM
Looks like the same gun to me. Hard to tell at those angles, there may be small diffrencesIm not picking up on. Could you tell me what the diffrence is in the 2 shots so I can see what you mean.
poo_al
10-01-2003, 07:17 PM
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If you checked the weapon selection screen from some of the gameplay videos (which I'm sure you've watched), you would have seen that they give you two automatic rifles: AK-47 and M4 Carbine.

It would be simply pointless to give you the Commando and M4A1, because there is no difference in terms of gameplay.
spyderkiller420
10-01-2003, 07:42 PM
u know what i noticed in the videos? he can use two weapons now, one of them being a grenade and the other, basicly any weapon that u want? i thinks that is a briliantr idea....
MarkusRMD
10-02-2003, 03:38 AM
The name was changed to the military designation for "trademark reasons". Besides, the actual source material we used was from a M4 Carbine.

FMJ: And I know the "Dragunov" is in fact done from "Romak-3" photos and the MP5 is in fact HK94. Live with it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
theHunted
10-02-2003, 05:53 AM
heads up fmj. stuff like this is moddable within minutes. so just make a 'correct weapon names' mod right before you start playing.
DelitaHex
10-02-2003, 09:00 AM
Well... I suppose this blows my non bolting boltaction gun outa the water... damn
FullMetalJacket
10-02-2003, 12:07 PM
Well... I suppose this blows my non bolting boltaction gun outa the water... damn



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DelitaHex
10-02-2003, 12:10 PM
Just note, I am dedicated to making the bolt BOLT! REMEDY WILL SEE!!! I'LL SHOW THEM!!!!! *cries* *wanders off into the sunset*

I wonder if it's possible to do ejecting mags. I noticed that the magazine still stays in the gun... wonder if I could mod that.
Kevin's girl
10-04-2003, 01:10 AM
How do you guys know so much about guns?!

Anyway I think all the weapons look cool! As long as I get the Desert Eagle again. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif If not... thats okay too I guess. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
spyderkiller420
10-04-2003, 01:24 AM
if not, a modder will make one anyways
FullMetalJacket
10-04-2003, 07:40 AM
How do you guys know so much about guns?!



Because I'm FMJ. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I can't speak for anyone else here, though. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
spyderkiller420
10-04-2003, 08:59 PM
does anyone have a list, a real list, of weapons for the beloved upcoming max payne 2: tfomp? i noe hes gonna have grenades
poo_al
10-04-2003, 10:44 PM
does anyone have a list, a real list, of weapons for the beloved upcoming max payne 2: tfomp? i noe hes gonna have grenades



Molotov Cocktail
Grenades
Smacking People with the Butt of Your Gun (tm) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Desert Eagle/Akimbo
Beretta 92F/Akimbo
Automatic Shotgun (think Pancor Jackhammer) (Sorry, the name escapes me)
SPAS-12
Sawed-Off Shotgun
H&K MP5/A1
Ingram Mac-10/Akimbo
M4A1 Carbine
AK-47
SVD Druganov
Sniper Rifle (Bolt Action)
Joker
10-04-2003, 11:07 PM
Automatic Shotgun (think Pancor Jackhammer) (Sorry, the name escapes me)



I'm pretty sure it's a Striker-12 (a.k.a. "Street Sweeper").
DelitaHex
10-05-2003, 01:23 AM
I grew up watching action movies, and playing action games. I also have friends who hate everything that is put in a game that is done cheaply. I guess I kinda followed in their footsteps...

... no offence remedy.
FullMetalJacket
10-05-2003, 10:43 AM
Automatic Shotgun (think Pancor Jackhammer) (Sorry, the name escapes me)
SPAS-12
H&K MP5/A1





It's an MP5A3 or A5, not A1, with mini-scope. There is no SPAS-12 in the game, and the automatic shotgun is a Striker-12 "Street Sweeper" from the 80s.
spyderkiller420
10-05-2003, 10:48 AM
does anyone have a list, a real list, of weapons for the beloved upcoming max payne 2: tfomp? i noe hes gonna have grenades



Molotov Cocktail
Grenades
Smacking People with the Butt of Your Gun (tm) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Desert Eagle/Akimbo
Beretta 92F/Akimbo
Automatic Shotgun (think Pancor Jackhammer) (Sorry, the name escapes me)
SPAS-12
Sawed-Off Shotgun
H&K MP5/A1
Ingram Mac-10/Akimbo
M4A1 Carbine
AK-47
SVD Druganov
Sniper Rifle (Bolt Action)


aight, thnx
poo_al
10-05-2003, 01:28 PM
Automatic Shotgun (think Pancor Jackhammer) (Sorry, the name escapes me)
SPAS-12
H&K MP5/A1





It's an MP5A3 or A5, not A1, with mini-scope. There is no SPAS-12 in the game, and the automatic shotgun is a Striker-12 "Street Sweeper" from the 80s.



A5. Right. I'm not big on the actual technical names and their specific compliments to the weapon. I just know what an MP5 looks like, none of the A5/A3/whatever suffixes. Thanks for the heads up. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If it's not a SPAS-12, then what is the plain old shotgun that Max uses called? There is the Striker (I thought it was Pounder or something, but I remember it started with an 'S'... "Spriter", nah couldn't be), and then the sawed off. What is the pump-action equivalent called?
FullMetalJacket
10-05-2003, 01:46 PM
I don't know. I know Max has the sawed-off, and then the automatic shotgun which replaces the Jackhammer is the Striker-12...and I'm not sure about the pump shotgun, I just know that it's not a SPAS-12 and it's not the Mossberg from the first game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
K-16
10-06-2003, 05:01 PM
I could've sworn that was the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun. Although the shoulder gate doesn't look familiar.
FullMetalJacket
10-06-2003, 07:02 PM
I could've sworn that was the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun. Although the shoulder gate doesn't look familiar.



It's not.
K-16
10-07-2003, 03:49 PM
Upon a closer inspection of the screenshot, you have proven me wrong. This shotgun does not have one single recognizable feature that the SPAS-12 has. D'oh! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brickwall.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif I wonder what kind of shotgun this is...
MrUniq
10-07-2003, 04:03 PM
either way i'm porting all those weapons (which i already did in MP1) into MP2 ...so look for my weapons mod. Luckily Remedy made a striker, so i don't have to use my model.
FullMetalJacket
10-07-2003, 05:15 PM
Upon a closer inspection of the screenshot, you have proven me wrong. This shotgun does not have one single recognizable feature that the SPAS-12 has. D'oh! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brickwall.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif I wonder what kind of shotgun this is...



I believe this MP2 shotgun is also featured in GTA3 or Vice City, or maybe both.
Skrenos
10-07-2003, 05:35 PM
It's a remington 870. I can tell by looking at the trigger guard.
K-16
10-08-2003, 02:25 AM
I wonder what Remedy calls it? (Since using official weapon names require lots of royalties... I think.)
SkavenRMD
10-08-2003, 03:26 AM
We call it a "Pump-Action Shotgun".
biXen
10-08-2003, 06:18 AM
We call it a "Pump-Action Shotgun".



OMG, the innovativity. Only teh Remedy would think of that...
K-16
10-09-2003, 04:25 AM
Works for me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif