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London_Midge
06-18-2003, 01:04 PM
He looks more like Charlie Sheen to me. Please, dear Lord, tell me they haven't replaced him with Charlie Sheen. Please? images/icons/shocked.gif

superbo3
06-18-2003, 01:16 PM
AAAAAAAAAAH THE HORROR THAT FACE LOOKS SO ORFUL LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE JAMES BONDS!!! THATS NOT MAX PAYNEISH images/icons/shocked.gif

sorry for the caps but AAAAH images/icons/shocked.gif

Tip
06-18-2003, 01:21 PM
Are you gonna scan and translate for us? images/icons/grin.gif

BTW, that is definitely Kevin Kline and Amanda Peet. DO NOT ARGUE. images/icons/tongue.gif

Jade
06-18-2003, 01:30 PM
WTF!!! Didn't know you were italian devil master, that's the pc magazine I usaully buy!!!!!!! I was seraching for the new issue these days!

Ps: if you have the february issue you can see my fan art(max payne dedicaded) published on it!!! images/icons/grin.gif images/icons/smile.gif

Btw...that's not Sami Jarvi, can't believe it images/icons/frown.gif

[ 06-18-2003, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Jade ]

Darkreaver
06-18-2003, 02:41 PM
WHAT THE F***. If that's supposed to be Max then I mind as well shoot myself, or better yet I'll shoot the person who thought of that face. Come on now, the point is to have a likeable face (Sam Lake) With that face I'll be killing Max on purpose. images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif

NutWrench
06-18-2003, 02:51 PM
Aaack.

Please tell me that's not Max Payne.

Jade
06-18-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Darkreaver:
WHAT THE F***. If that's supposed to be Max then I mind as well shoot myself, or better yet I'll shoot the person who thought of that face. Come on now, the point is to have a likeable face (Sam Lake) With that face I'll be killing Max on purpose. images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree, Sam has definitely the right look for a character like Max, this one seems James Bond type...I'm already thinking about a "Sam Lake mod"...

Bludd
06-18-2003, 03:05 PM
The Baskinator will run amok! images/icons/shocked.gif

Qtipie
06-18-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Bludd:
The Baskinator will run amok! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hell, so will I!!! images/icons/shocked.gif

Devil Master
06-18-2003, 03:29 PM
I'm already thinking about a "Sam Lake mod"... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Me too. I'm afraid that Max Payne not looking like Sam Lake would make MP2 the first computer game in history to jump the shark. http://forums.3drealms.com/images/iftw.gif :iftw:

Bludd
06-18-2003, 03:34 PM
Well, Max Payne always did look a little uncomfortable in the first game. He must have had an upset stomach or some constipation going on.

Chimera
06-18-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Qtipie:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bludd:
The Baskinator will run amok! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hell, so will I!!! images/icons/shocked.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">/me joins the run amok line images/icons/shocked.gif

D'Arcy
06-18-2003, 04:25 PM
Yes it is horrible images/icons/mad.gif

But I am afraid it will indeed look like that, it is pretty much the same than the one from the box (http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_images/235848-mock.jpg) images/icons/frown.gif

Mad_Max
06-18-2003, 04:41 PM
My eyes! The goggles do nothing! images/icons/shocked.gif

KillJoy
06-18-2003, 06:43 PM
What's with the combed hair???????!

Max is on the run all the time! He doesn't have time to comb his hair!?!?!?!?!?!


What the hell is goin on???

That's it. I am not buying max payne because the hair is different!!!

It is over.

Devil Master
06-19-2003, 12:36 AM
YEEHAW!!! It looks like the best-selling gaming magazine of my country is getting an exclusive for a Max Payne 2 preview! http://www.tgmonline.it/tgmgenesis/20030618132840/curr_cover.jpg

Tip
06-19-2003, 12:41 AM
Is that for next month or this month?
I think a lot of countries are getting previews next month.
Why does Max Payne look like Kevin Kline there?

Devil Master
06-19-2003, 12:45 AM
It's the issue of TGM that will come out in few days.

P.S.
I really hope that Max still has the face of Sam Lake in MP2, or else I'll...

...paste Sam Lake's face on the model graemlins/tinyted.gif

[ 06-18-2003, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Devil Master ]

Qtipie
06-19-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Bludd:
Well, Max Payne always did look a little uncomfortable in the first game. He must have had an upset stomach or some constipation going on. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">maybe he was mourning the loss of his wife and kid, you insensitive lump images/icons/tongue.gif

mesa thinks he looked quite happy and animated considering all the crap he had to deal with. well, maybe it was just the courage born of desperation. profound, huh? images/icons/grin.gif

Qtipie
06-19-2003, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by chimera:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Qtipie:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bludd:
The Baskinator will run amok! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hell, so will I!!! images/icons/shocked.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">/me joins the run amok line images/icons/shocked.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">worst thing is: no one confirms or denies anything. an answer would be nice. some sort of statement.... maybe a tickling attack would help? or forcing them to listen to a mariah carey cd? celine dion would do just as good....

Samuli Viikinen
06-19-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Qtipie:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by chimera:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Qtipie:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bludd:
The Baskinator will run amok! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hell, so will I!!! images/icons/shocked.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">/me joins the run amok line images/icons/shocked.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">worst thing is: no one confirms or denies anything. an answer would be nice. some sort of statement.... maybe a tickling attack would help? or forcing them to listen to a mariah carey cd? celine dion would do just as good.... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, Celine Dion ain't that bad, but please no Mariah.

MikaRMD
06-19-2003, 01:58 AM
By the way, I have seen couple of issues of the Italian TGM magazine and I have to say it is one of the best game magazines I have ever seen. Really good quality stuff.

Of course, I did not understand the text as my Italian is limited only to bon giorno and grazie... images/icons/smile.gif Just enough to handle a vacation there.

Qtipie
06-19-2003, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:

Of course, I did not understand the text as my Italian is limited only to bon giorno and grazie... images/icons/smile.gif Just enough to handle a vacation there. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">but not enough to woo a girl... images/icons/tongue.gif

Qtipie
06-19-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by Samuli Viikinen:
Well, Celine Dion ain't that bad, but please no Mariah. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ha! thanks for the hint. will be back with an elaborate plan...

Jade
06-19-2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
By the way, I have seen couple of issues of the Italian TGM magazine and I have to say it is one of the best game magazines I have ever seen. Really good quality stuff.

Of course, I did not understand the text as my Italian is limited only to bon giorno and grazie... images/icons/smile.gif Just enough to handle a vacation there. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Indeed it is, I was sure it would had the first MP exclusive. images/icons/smile.gif

Bludd
06-19-2003, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Qtipie:
maybe he was mourning the loss of his wife and kid, you insensitive lump images/icons/tongue.gif

mesa thinks he looked quite happy and animated considering all the crap he had to deal with. well, maybe it was just the courage born of desperation. profound, huh? images/icons/grin.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, I was talking about his facial expression.

Wouldn't he look sad or angry instead of constipated when he lost his wife and kid?

Qtipie
06-19-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Bludd:
Well, I was talking about his facial expression.

Wouldn't he look sad or angry instead of constipated when he lost his wife and kid? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i was talking about his facial expression, too. maybe there's only one for all images/icons/grin.gif

take steven seagal for an instance: no matter if he's sad, lonely, angry or frustrated, he always looks the same lol images/icons/wink.gif

Bludd
06-19-2003, 09:49 AM
But Steven Seagal is a lousy actor, so he has an excuse. images/icons/smile.gif

Jade
06-19-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Bludd:

Wouldn't he look sad or angry instead of constipated when he lost his wife and kid? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Max looked just perfect.

Darkreaver
06-19-2003, 02:38 PM
The point is how is Max going to look in the next game. Will he have the same face we all know and love, even if he does look constipated, or will it be some shmuk who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. PLEASE TELL ME THAT IS NOT THE FACE MAX WILL HAVE. images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif

Bludd
06-19-2003, 02:40 PM
Well, Samuli and Mika didn't deny it earlier in this thread, but I think we should just wait and see, since they didn't confirm it either.

M
06-19-2003, 05:12 PM
maybe that isn't max. maybe max dies and we have play as that guy. remember the title: the fall of max payne? all the same, it was a bad idea to change the main character. but i still think max payne 2 will definatly be worth buying.

Qtipie
06-20-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Darkreaver:
The point is how is Max going to look in the next game. Will he have the same face we all know and love, even if he does look constipated, or will it be some shmuk who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. PLEASE TELL ME THAT IS NOT THE FACE MAX WILL HAVE. images/icons/mad.gif images/icons/mad.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">we've been wondering, too. as bludd said: nobody confirms or denies anything. my guess is, they'll rather die laughing than to tell us whether or not SAMI JÄRVI WILL BE BACK AS MAX PAYNE?! images/icons/confused.gif sadists....

maxpayne.co.uk
06-20-2003, 09:22 AM
My assumption is that Sami Javi will return as Max Payne, and that character may turn out as the main villian or somthing. I reckon they are just trying to stirr us up at the moment.

No-one in their right state of mind will choose somebody else over Sami Jarvi.

Jade
06-20-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by absolutemaxpayne.co.uk:
My assumption is that Sami Javi will return as Max Payne, and that character may turn out as the main villian or somthing. I reckon they are just trying to stirr us up at the moment.

No-one in their right state of mind will choose somebody else over Sami Jarvi. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I really hope in what you said........and what if M is right???.....oh no, I can't see him die! images/icons/frown.gif images/icons/frown.gif images/icons/frown.gif

maxpayne.co.uk
06-20-2003, 01:35 PM
Um, this is difficult. Sami Jarvi was at this year's E3, so that maybe significant. Why would Sami Jarvi turn up there if he didn't play a part in Max Payne 2?

Bludd
06-20-2003, 02:09 PM
He's still the lead writer for the game, absolutemaxpayne.co.uk (now that's a mouthful) images/icons/smile.gif

maxpayne.co.uk
06-20-2003, 02:19 PM
Ah, didn't know that one.

3DRealms are quite tight at keeping information quiet (as we all very well know!) and I havent seen it in any previous threads.

Well, hopefully 3DRealms will catch onto this thread and realise Sami Jarvi is the best hope of 'promoting' Max Payne 2.

hemlock_0
06-21-2003, 02:47 PM
My signature says it all...

PetriRMD
06-21-2003, 02:59 PM
Whoah, what do we have here (http://www.gen4pc.com/index.php?wpe=a1858).

images/icons/wink.gif

Kev_Hectic
06-21-2003, 03:16 PM
Apparently, the first glimpse of Max's new look.

http://www.gen4pc.com/gen4pcnew/temp/img_elements/media_bloc_10483_pop.gif

He looks like he aged by about ten years images/icons/shocked.gif

Bludd
06-21-2003, 03:27 PM
Well, now. Is that a model from the game or just a pretty beefed-up rendering?

And just before people become any more outraged that it isn't Sam Lake's face, I'll have to say that it'd be a little silly if MP2 would use the same model and skin as in MP1.

Jade
06-21-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Kev_Hectic:
Apparently, the first glimpse of Max's new look.

http://www.gen4pc.com/gen4pcnew/temp/img_elements/media_bloc_10483_pop.gif

He looks like he aged by about ten years images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wtf!
Well, I wouldn't say older...but it's a lot better than the guy on tgm cover.

Bludd
06-21-2003, 03:49 PM
Hang on, he looks like Kevin Costner! images/icons/shocked.gif

Jade
06-21-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Bludd:
Hang on, he looks like Kevin Costner! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">lol...are you kidding? no!
Definitely he's not the same...but I can see Max in him...

xZero
06-21-2003, 04:22 PM
That looks ingame-model to me, but that face is definitely not Sami's. He does indeed look older. I quess he has been in for quite a while.

The Baskinator
06-21-2003, 04:38 PM
I've never seen anything so cool in my entire life. I mean that.

Jade
06-21-2003, 04:46 PM
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif

M
06-21-2003, 06:49 PM
that look isn't so bad at all, i just think it's going to look a little weird to have an old man jumping around in bullet time.

Tip
06-21-2003, 09:40 PM
Looks awesome. Different, but still awesome. images/icons/grin.gif

poo_al
06-21-2003, 11:40 PM
What happened to the 'G' necklace and the orange undershirt? images/icons/frown.gif

He looks way older, and not like Sam either. It would be cool if he was older but still looked like Sam. Update the player model sure, but still make it look like Mr. Lake. Though I feel I must say that he has a more "noir" look than before.

It'll feel different playing the game if the main character doesn't have the familiar "I need fibre" look. images/icons/wink.gif

ryche
06-22-2003, 12:10 AM
I agree with poo....why doesn't he look like an aged Sam? At least he doesn't look like he smelt a big pile of smelly socks & cheese....

Kev_Hectic
06-22-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by poo_al:
What happened to the 'G' necklace and the orange undershirt? images/icons/frown.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

By the looks of it, his undershirt got turned into a neck tie. They both look like they where made out of the same material. Which looks cool if you ask me.

He looks less like a renegade cop with bad indigestion and more like a detective this time around images/icons/grin.gif

[ 06-22-2003, 12:18 AM: Message edited by: Kev_Hectic ]

Wild Falkon
06-22-2003, 01:05 AM
I could've sworn that necklace in Max Payne was some kind of Viking ship charm.

...Was it a G?

Devil Master
06-22-2003, 03:27 AM
It wasn't a G but a Viking ship.
And I'm gonna definitely paste Sam Lake's face over that ugly mug when I get my copy of Max Payne 2.

maxpayne.co.uk
06-22-2003, 04:04 AM
Well, now. Is that a model from the game or just a pretty beefed-up rendering?

And just before people become any more outraged that it isn't Sam Lake's face, I'll have to say that it'd be a little silly if MP2 would use the same model and skin as in MP1.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">But surely the storyline continues from where Max was taken away in the police car at the end?

Jade
06-22-2003, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by absolutemaxpayne.co.uk:
But surely the storyline continues from where Max was taken away in the police car at the end? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why it shouldn't?

D'Arcy
06-22-2003, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Bludd:
Hang on, he looks like Kevin Costner! images/icons/shocked.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He rather looks like a cross between K. Costner and C. Eastwood images/icons/tongue.gif

images/icons/mad.gif And I still want Sam Lake as Max Payne images/icons/mad.gif

ethan[imf]
06-22-2003, 05:30 AM
well, i don't know ... it doesn't really fit the max on the teaser poster ... there he doesn't look that old ...

Akari
06-22-2003, 06:32 AM
Oh boy. MP 40 years old? Man, this is goignt to be a lame part 2 images/icons/tongue.gif

Jokke_r
06-22-2003, 09:20 AM
i looks ok. i bet they just threw the tie there to show of their physics engine... (hitman2 style yaknow) maybe they have dynamic clothes. like the jacket being dynamic. like the curtains n shit in Hitman2 and Splinter Cell... thatd be pretty cool. i think the new max looks pretty cool. even though he doesn't look like the old maxpayne at all he looks pretty good.

MikaRMD
06-22-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Jade:
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am pretty sure it's "in game". images/icons/wink.gif

Devil Master
06-22-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jade:
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am pretty sure it's "in game". images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So why was decided NOT to use Sam Lake's face this time?

Jokke_r
06-22-2003, 01:18 PM
becose the remedy folks thought he was an ugly sod

SkavenRMD
06-22-2003, 01:35 PM
Because Sam Lake got tired of making constipated faces to the camera?

Devil Master
06-22-2003, 02:11 PM
Meh. It's as nonsensical as if the Wachowski Brothers chose to have an actor that is NOT Keanu Reeves play Neo in The Matrix Reloaded. graemlins/mryuck.gif

Darkreaver
06-22-2003, 03:22 PM
Ok, one thing is for sure, if Max looks like that instead of a baseball bat he will be carrying a walking stick.FOR THE LOVE OF GOD he looks like he escaped from an old folks home.I am not buying the game until a mod with Sam Lake's face comes out. images/icons/mad.gif graemlins/brickwall.gif

Jade
06-22-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jade:
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am pretty sure it's "in game". images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wow...good job images/icons/wink.gif

maxpayne.co.uk
06-22-2003, 04:02 PM
Why it shouldn't? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The storyline must continue from when he was taken away! We need to know what happens to Alfred and Max himself!

The new model of Max isn't bad, but Sami Jarvi would make the game a lot better in my opinion.

Jade
06-22-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by absolutemaxpayne.co.uk:

The new model of Max isn't bad, but Sami Jarvi would make the game a lot better in my opinion. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He's still the writer...it's enough for us. images/icons/smile.gif

maxpayne.co.uk
06-22-2003, 04:21 PM
He's still the writer...it's enough for us. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, after all, I suppose you don't get to see Max's face much during the gameplay anyway.

Go on, admit it. You would prefer Sami to be Max Payne instead of the new model. Although the new model is OK.

Jade
06-22-2003, 04:28 PM
Ok, ok, I admit Sam would be a lot better...but a this point we can't change things...you know.

D'Arcy
06-22-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Devil Master:
Meh. It's as nonsensical as if the Wachowski Brothers chose to have an actor that is NOT Keanu Reeves play Neo in The Matrix Reloaded. graemlins/mryuck.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You´re damn right!

Kev_Hectic
06-22-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Jade:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by MikaRMD:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jade:
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am pretty sure it's "in game". images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wow...good job images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Heh I agree, the detail on his face and gun looks awsome, it almost looks pre rendered. Can you guys give us the system requirements at this time?

Jade
06-22-2003, 04:38 PM
I think they'll be pretty high...the model look so realistic...damn...especially the Beretta...wow...

MikaRMD
06-22-2003, 04:45 PM
The game is going to look VERY good. You'll, of course, be able to judge that yourself later on. And, hopefully, you'll call that 'very good' as understatement of the year images/icons/smile.gif

As for the system requirements, don't worry about them.

Kev_Hectic
06-22-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
As for the system requirements, don't worry about them. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Actually, I think I do....

Unless MP2 will be able to run on a Celeron 466 with a GeForce 2 images/icons/rolleyes.gif

I really need to buy a new computer graemlins/brickwall.gif

Warmaster129
06-23-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jade:
Yeah, the details are very cool, if it's really the "in game model"...I'm very pleased images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am pretty sure it's "in game". images/icons/wink.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">images/icons/shocked.gif
Dun dun dun...

Qtipie
06-23-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
Because Sam Lake got tired of making constipated faces to the camera? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">he didn't look that bad at all! i mean, he was definitely able to pull off a lot more facial expressions than steven segal images/icons/wink.gif and this guy calls himself an actor!

seriously...i'm so...so....so....so crest-fallen images/icons/frown.gif

Akari
06-23-2003, 02:04 AM
ahhhh

Qtipie
06-23-2003, 02:28 AM
yes, feel sorry for me images/icons/frown.gif *sob*

dark_angel
06-23-2003, 02:46 AM
Imagine DNF comes out with a different Face !

What will you do !?

Akari
06-23-2003, 04:42 AM
Stop buying games. images/icons/tongue.gif

Froz
06-23-2003, 04:58 AM
Wow, that new model really gives a fresh touch to the whole game, looks very good! Now we need some ingame shots with new levels images/icons/smile.gif

Bludd
06-23-2003, 07:30 AM
I wonder if MP2 will show bullet wounds and stuff on models in-game, or if it will be like in MP1 where they only change expressions when they die.

Also, will there be moving mouths/lips this time? images/icons/smile.gif

mysteryperfecta
06-23-2003, 08:34 AM
Instead of just complaining about Max looking different, has anyone tried to figure out why? I'm sure there's a reason.

This is pure speculation, but we know that the movie rights for Max Payne were aquired some time ago. If they had cast the part of Max, it would be foolish to model the game character after Sam Lake again.

It's probably not the right reason, but it's certainly reasonable. I doubt they'd arbitrarily change Max's distinctive face without a motive.

Jade
06-23-2003, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by mysteryperfecta:
Instead of just complaining about Max looking different, has anyone tried to figure out why? I'm sure there's a reason.

This is pure speculation, but we know that the movie rights for Max Payne were aquired some time ago. If they had cast the part of Max, it would be foolish to model the game character after Sam Lake again.

It's probably not the right reason, but it's certainly reasonable. I doubt they'd arbitrarily change Max's distinctive face without a motive. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you saying that the new actor for Max could be the same as the "announced" movie?
Interesting...I remember Remedy said they were going to cast professionist actors... images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Bludd
06-23-2003, 09:12 AM
There's a difference between universally recognized professional actors and professional actors, Jade. There are actors around the world that people in other countries do not know much of.

And even if you aren't a internationally recognized actor, you can still be a damn good one.

Jade
06-23-2003, 10:51 AM
Mmm...you're right...

Devil Master
06-23-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by dark_angel:
Imagine DNF comes out with a different Face !

What will you do !? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">First - you're assuming that DNF will come out, and nobody has proof of that.
Second - Duke has a distinctive LOOK, but not a distinctive FACE, so your comparison is not valid.

M
06-23-2003, 11:53 AM
doesn't it bother anyone that max's hand STILL looks like it's holding an invisible gun.

http://www.gen4pc.com/gen4pcnew/temp/img_elements/media_bloc_10483_pop.gif

SirSushi
06-23-2003, 01:33 PM
i don't mind the new face but the hairdo makes him look kinda old

aavenr
06-23-2003, 02:30 PM
Somehow i feel this is a smart move, definitively against industry conventions but that's what makes it interesting. I get the feeling the plot is gonna be even better this time around (and that's saying a lot), more 'mature' perhaps. Mature, I don't know i see that old lad and that's the only word that comes to my mind images/icons/grin.gif

Can't wait to hear more on this game after seeing this!

MikaRMD
06-23-2003, 02:42 PM
I was wondering, do our Italian friends know when the magazine is coming out? Or the French about the other magazine? How about the German PC Games? PCZone UK?

I really don't know myself, and I am kind of itching to see those images/icons/smile.gif

Wiseblitz
06-23-2003, 03:37 PM
Haven't you seen the game yourself?

Bludd
06-23-2003, 03:40 PM
I think he want to see what they are saying.

Crashnet
06-23-2003, 06:42 PM
All I know is I don't care what he looks like since the model looks so good in the picture. I just want to see some in game screens and find out whether or not he still has the same voice. Provided he has the same voice, I'm all smiles. images/icons/smile.gif

dark_angel
06-24-2003, 12:27 AM
Devil Master,

>>First - you're assuming that DNF will come out, and nobody has proof of that.

This is my Proof : The engine is done !

Mongorian
06-24-2003, 01:40 AM
I agree that i'll miss sam's face, but come on guys...we have to trust the developers. AND sam. I'm sure that since he's the writer he probably had a say in it. And if it was his decision or if he could agree with the rest of the team to change the look of max payne, then I'm just going to assume that they know what they're doing. images/icons/smile.gif

Besides, he looks a LOT more like a detective/cop, whereas in the first one he looked more like a bent rebel lashing out at whoever he could get his hands on.
And its not like you're looking at his face when you're playing the game images/icons/grin.gif

MikaRMD
06-24-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Bludd:
I think he want to see what they are saying. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Exactly. Plus, it's always nice to see what kind of arrangements they have done with the screenshots.

Wiseblitz
06-24-2003, 02:24 AM
Exactly. Plus, it's always nice to see what kind of arrangements they have done with the screenshots.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Did you guys give preview versions of MP2 for them to play with or did they all come one day and play a session of MP2 at your offices or 3d Realms' ?

Qtipie
06-24-2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Wiseblitz:
Did you guys give preview versions of MP2 for them to play with or did they all come one day and play a session of MP2 at your offices or 3d Realms' ? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">neither, i'd say. it might be a little too expensive to fly them in, plus: the remedy offices seem to be a little too small images/icons/wink.gif

anyway, that's what some of the users of pc games online had to say about the recently published pictures:

"max doesn’t look like max anymore. his cool hawaiian shirt vanished, too. this way he looks like some bedraggled investigator."

"i don’t believe this guy is actually meant to be max payne. he looks much older whereas mona sax still has the same young features as in part one. well, we’ll see if max is going to look that old and past it in the final game."

"didn’t he spent a relatively long time in prison after part one? it would have left its marks on him, of course."

"i don’t find his new looks that awful. he aged a bit and has a slight 'dirty harry-touch' now. i’m waiting for the outcome."

"the new max doesn’t look like the old one at all. even if he aged he wouldn’t look the way he looks now."

"this is definitely not max payne! and if he is, i’d be extremely disappointed. as if 'dirty harry 2' wasn’t done with clint eastwood but gene hackman instead. that simply doesn’t fit. give me back the cool, hawaiian shirts and necklace-wearing max payne!"

"the bullettime action looked cool and dynamic when old max did it but when i take a look at the new model now, i have to smile.... on the other hand it might be interesting to see how max changed in the course of time, not only externally but also regarding his feelings and actions."

"compare this guy to the artwork!!! it’s definitely not max. most striking are his features and the missing sideburns. maybe it’s his superior, a baddie, or his father?"

pc games magazine will be published in early july. i'm quite excited about their comment on the subject.

Devil Master
06-24-2003, 05:50 AM
I was wondering, do our Italian friends know when the magazine is coming out?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It should be out within days. It may even be already out... I'm gonna check this evening.

mysteryperfecta
06-24-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
Exactly. Plus, it's always nice to see what kind of arrangements they have done with the screenshots. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Give 'em to me now and I'll arrange the hell out of them.

ethan[imf]
06-24-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by MikaRMD:
I was wondering, do our Italian friends know when the magazine is coming out? Or the French about the other magazine? How about the German PC Games? PCZone UK?

I really don't know myself, and I am kind of itching to see those images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">the german pc games' coming out on july, 2. people (like me) who have subscripted the mag will get it probably on monday. can't wait!

Jade
06-24-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Devil Master:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I was wondering, do our Italian friends know when the magazine is coming out?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It should be out within days. It may even be already out... I'm gonna check this evening. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I searched it today...it's not out yet.

dark_angel
06-24-2003, 02:25 PM
PCZONE will come out on Friday the 27th images/icons/wink.gif

gta
07-02-2003, 04:33 PM
my signature says it all too.....

j
07-02-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by gta:
my signature says it all too..... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too bad your signature isn't showing images/icons/grin.gif

Komb.at
07-03-2003, 06:22 AM
graemlins/nelson.gif

Wrathstalker
07-03-2003, 08:15 AM
tough guy... images/icons/grin.gif

Kevin's girl
07-11-2003, 09:36 PM
Can somebody tell me what exactly a mod is?