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theHunted
07-15-2003, 10:54 AM
According to a newspost from the german online gaming mag gamigo.de, some american wrestler has just sued rockstar games (don't get why they always bring rockstar in connection with max payne).

Darryl Peterson aka. "Man Mountain Rock" but also "Maxx Payne", who is professional wrestler in the WCW and WWF wrestling leagues, has sued rockstar for illegal use of "his" name as the main title of the game.

so after that new face Max has gotten, maybe he even gets a new name? images/icons/tongue.gif

nyne
07-15-2003, 10:57 AM
Hmm.....couldn't he have thought of this, oh, I dunno, when the first game came out!?!?

Paynefreak
07-15-2003, 10:59 AM
The game came out 2001, i think.

Who the **** is Maxx Payne and is it his real name or just some stupid nickname?

scorpion
07-15-2003, 11:01 AM
i dought they new who this maxx payne was and used his name as a coincidence. and if they have to change his name what will they call him?

Co11
07-15-2003, 11:03 AM
ahh, you can't do anything since maxx payne is technically not max payne...

2nd of all, I know someone named max payne (his real name) and he can't sue either because it's a fairly common name here in the us...

This game obviously doesn't depict the wrestler in any way and therefore he can't do anything 'bout it..

Also, Rockstar games owns the rights to max payne which is why rockstar is getting sued and not 3drealms or remedy...

Paynefreak
07-15-2003, 11:25 AM
Anyway, which do you think will win?

theHunted
07-15-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Co11:
Also, Rockstar games owns the rights to max payne which is why rockstar is getting sued and not 3drealms or remedy... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">uh, i thought it's been take2 who bought the rights for max payne.

Yatta
07-15-2003, 01:18 PM
WTF so if someone uses my name to name their son I can sue them ey? Come on, since when did they start copyrighting names... BULLSHIT! that's the worse way to sue someone. images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Chimera
07-15-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by theHunted:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Co11:
Also, Rockstar games owns the rights to max payne which is why rockstar is getting sued and not 3drealms or remedy... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">uh, i thought it's been take2 who bought the rights for max payne. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Take 2 own Rockstar... or something like that...

edit:
"Take Two...Games are published under the Rockstar Games, Gathering, Gotham Games, Joytech and Global Star labels"

biXen
07-15-2003, 01:45 PM
That would be as silly as Rockstar suing those who made the movie Rock Star for using a similar name. Actually that would almost make more sense, stupid as it is.

They also write that name likenesses in games and movies are not intended and are purely coincidental, this guy's name isn't even Max Payne.

theHunted
07-15-2003, 02:04 PM
yeah well, but that's america we're talking about.
that's why they have to have "attention, wet floor" signs and shit like that everywhere.
i remember that McDonalds has been sued because some dork has boiled his finger by pouring coffee over accidently. and yes, the suit has passed, because the judges decided that the coffe has been too hot and there has been no warning on the cup. that guy has received some million dollars.

Paynefreak
07-15-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by theHunted:
yeah well, but that's america we're talking about.
that's why they have to have "attention, wet floor" signs and shit like that everywhere.
i remember that McDonalds has been sued because some dork has boiled his finger by pouring coffee over accidently. and yes, the suit has passed, because the judges decided that the coffe has been too hot and there has been no warning on the cup. that guy has received some million dollars. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ok, NOW i'm started to be worried images/icons/frown.gif

Nightcom
07-15-2003, 03:24 PM
i remember that McDonalds has been sued because some dork has boiled his finger by pouring coffee over accidently. and yes, the suit has passed, because the judges decided that the coffe has been too hot and there has been no warning on the cup. that guy has received some million dollars. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I remember that one... images/icons/blush.gif images/icons/rolleyes.gif O_o;;

biXen
07-15-2003, 04:12 PM
How about those girls who sued McDonalds because they had gotten fat. ROFL... how stupid/greedy can you get, I wonder.

This guy must be the same, maybe he just realized that wrestling is all fake images/icons/rolleyes.gif

WokenUp
07-15-2003, 07:42 PM
How many different names are there in this world? And how many people are there? You think there ain't people with the same name? And there's two x's in this wrestler's name.

Gee, if wrestling doesn't earn you enough to feed your family, find another job.

Kevin's girl
07-16-2003, 12:17 AM
The stupid wrestler is just lookin for some quick dough!!!!

Qtipie
07-16-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by scorpion:
i dought they new who this maxx payne was and used his name as a coincidence. and if they have to change his name what will they call him? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">they could go back using the name 'max heat'. images/icons/grin.gif

scorpion
07-16-2003, 12:56 AM
im thinkin rockstar

X-Vector
07-16-2003, 01:47 PM
No, that's the illustrious Maxxx Heat you're thinking of.

Paynefreak
07-16-2003, 02:04 PM
Gee, this Maxx Payne dude is a real Payne in the ass. Payne to the Maxx;)

Jokke_r
07-16-2003, 02:22 PM
stupid greedy americans who cant find themselves a decent job but haveto sue people to get money. greedy bastards. im happy i live in finland where something like this is not possible and no one would ever be so greedy to do it

Kevin's girl
07-16-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Jokke_r:
stupid greedy americans who cant find themselves a decent job but haveto sue people to get money. greedy bastards. im happy i live in finland where something like this is not possible and no one would ever be so greedy to do it <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes people in America are greedy. I'm not gonna lie to you I live there.

Sue! Sue! Sue! Its the American way!! LOL Really it is. If your not getting sued over here, then someboby is gonna turn you in!

America is a great place to live. But there are a lot of idiots that live here! As with any country.

So I hope that the wrestler loses the case and doesn't make a damn dime because this whole thing is...GAY!! LOL images/icons/smile.gif

gta
07-17-2003, 12:12 AM
you go girl!!

xZero
07-17-2003, 12:54 AM
I wouldn't be too surprised if some adult-movie star already goes by that name.

Dsilence
07-17-2003, 12:56 AM
Maxx Payne looks much worse than Max Payne. Maybe we should mak a MAXX Payne MOD images/icons/wink.gif
http://www.geocities.com/mpj_wcwcaws/MaxxPayne.html


And here's how Maxx Payne got his name:
Pinfalls: How did the name ‘Maxx Payne’ originate?

Maxx: Actually, it started back in the Max Headroom days, who was the spokes-person for Coca-Cola in the mid-80s. I loved Max Headroom ... I though the show was great. Prior to that, I had done a show called ‘Bob Uekker’s Wacky World of Sports,’ and it was an out-take show like ‘America’s Funniest Home Videos’ ... and [they] were always looking for funny little anecdotal things to do on top of the funny video they had. One particular time, [they] came to me and wanted to do something for the next week’s show where I was a wrestler ... and there was the littlest character [as my opponent]. He asked what I wanted to use for a name and I said, ‘How about Lucifer Payne?’ and his response was, ‘Wow, that’s pretty intense.’

At it was supposed to be a character--a fun thing--so I started thinking about Lucifer Payne and thought it was a little bit too extreme. And at the time I was thinking about my name, a commercial with Max Headroom came on. And I went ... ‘Max Payne!’ Ah, There it is right there ... ‘Maximum Pain.’ So, I did the Max Payne thing and a friend on the road said, ‘Why don’t you change it to two Xs?’ and the rest is history so-to-speak.

http://www.pinfalls.com/maxx.html

RudeBoyGunslingerUK
07-17-2003, 03:16 AM
Im changing my name to MR Duke Nukem.....

Paynefreak
07-17-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Dsilence:
[QB] Maxx Payne looks much worse than Max Payne. Maybe we should mak a MAXX Payne MOD images/icons/wink.gif
http://www.geocities.com/mpj_wcwcaws/MaxxPayne.html
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">LOL, maybe there should also be a MOD which adds new level named "Maxx Payne VS Max Payne" where they're fighting images/icons/wink.gif

Karthik
07-18-2003, 07:23 AM
Damn, I was hoping for "Maxx Payne in Kung Fu Mod"!
Anyway is this official, how come is that no one at Apogee or Remedy gave any comments?

mysteryperfecta
07-18-2003, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Jokke_r:
stupid greedy americans who cant find themselves a decent job but haveto sue people to get money. greedy bastards. im happy i live in finland where something like this is not possible and no one would ever be so greedy to do it <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't be a bigot. There's just as big a percentage of people in Finland who would sue, if your government didn't suppress that right. Greed is universal, and obviously, so is ignorance. Grow up.

Jokke_r
07-18-2003, 10:09 AM
people in finland are better off cos we can't sue eachothers like that...

biXen
07-18-2003, 10:27 AM
It's not like Finland is so special. It's only in USA this happens, because with a bunch of so different people and with free rights you get nuts like this.

j
07-18-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by mysteryperfecta:
Don't be a bigot. There's just as big a percentage of people in Finland who would sue, if your government didn't suppress that right. Greed is universal, and obviously, so is ignorance. Grow up. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't be an idiot. There's no law in Finland that says you can't sue for an idiotic reason. Our government doesn't "suppress" that right.

However, it would be hard to get that case accepted into any court here in Finland, because the plaintiff would be laughed out. As would have happened with the "spilled hot coffee on myself" and "McDonalds made me fat" lawsuits.

SkavenRMD
07-18-2003, 04:46 PM
There are a couple of practical reasons too:

Class action lawsuits (ie. a group of people suing a company) are not applicable under Finnish law. Only individuals and individual companies may sue.

Also, the compensation for damage you get for suing someone and winning are not as astronomical in Finland as they are in the USA. It's not an economic jackpot to sue. You can expect to be adequately compensated, but it won't jet-set you and your dog.

Now... hopefully neither of you will sue each other for the insults you've been throwing around. "Idiot", "Bigot", "Grow up", can you honestly call that good debate? images/icons/smile.gif

hemlock_0
07-18-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
Now... hopefully neither of you will sue each other for the insults you've been throwing around. "Idiot", "Bigot", "Grow up", can you honestly call that good debate? images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">'Point for Skaven.

KillJoy
07-18-2003, 05:26 PM
SKAVEN COMES TO SAVE THE DAY!!!!!!!!!


(to the beat of that song andy kaufman use to parody on)

hemlock_0
07-18-2003, 06:34 PM
(lights a candle, sways back and forth)

The Baskinator
07-18-2003, 10:07 PM
That was the Mighty Mouse theme.

KillJoy
07-18-2003, 10:40 PM
^^^ Yep

jakek101
07-19-2003, 07:08 PM
First, the McDonalds made me fat suits were thrown out.

Second, what we really need is a law that says if you lose a suit you have to pay the person you sued's legal fees, like they do in England. Frivolous law suits usually are thrown out if they make it to court, the problem is that they often don't because it is more expensive to pay legal fees than it is to get an out of court settlement.

Jokke_r
07-20-2003, 04:48 AM
plus they haveto pay their greedy lawyers even if they lose...

Hudson
07-20-2003, 07:26 AM
Hah. An idiot "wrastler" is trying to sue a multi-million dollar game publisher because it resembles his name? Yet another example that wrestlers are as dumb as a tube sock filled with urinal cakes (if "The Scorpion King" wasnt enough proof) To think some people wonder why I never watched the shit..

Gatinater
07-21-2003, 02:58 AM
It will fall through. The name Max Payne is so common. My phone book has a page and a half with nothing but Max Paynes. It's not like the name is unique. Or original.

Darkreaver
07-21-2003, 02:15 PM
This is the most stupid thing I've heard since the greek goverment tryed to ban video games.But what do you expect from a wrestler.Do you know what a wrestler is? It's a person who can't act worth shit and has a brain the size of peanut. images/icons/tongue.gif

Kevin's girl
07-21-2003, 02:55 PM
Yes I hate wrestlers! To be a wrestler you have to be "supposedly"a good actor. But then why does wrestling look so fake?! I can't stand wrestling!

mysteryperfecta
07-21-2003, 05:30 PM
"Kevin's girl" (and Jokke_r) said that frivilous lawsuits were not possible in Finland. If that's correct, then the government is suppressing what is a right in the U.S. If "j" is correct, and frivilous lawsuits are allowed, then obviously the government isn't supressing anything, and some Fins are ignorant of the law there. I have to go by what a Finnish person says.

Originally posted by SkavenRMD:
Class action lawsuits (ie. a group of people suing a company) are not applicable under Finnish law. Only individuals and individual companies may sue.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Fine, but not appicable in this case.

Also, the compensation for damage you get for suing someone and winning are not as astronomical in Finland as they are in the USA. It's not an economic jackpot to sue. You can expect to be adequately compensated, but it won't jet-set you and your dog.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The damages in suing can get astonomical because they're based on intangibles-- compensation for pain and suffering, and punitive damages. In the case of punitive damages, the bigger the company (a la McDonalds), the more it takes to punish them. But this is beside the point. Greed is suing anyone falsely for the purposes of cashing in, no matter what the amount.

Now... hopefully neither of you will sue each other for the insults you've been throwing around. "Idiot", "Bigot", "Grow up", can you honestly call that good debate? images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The "bigot" label is applicable to someone who calls Americans stupid, greedy bastards, and is especially erroneous when citing a lawsuit that 99% of the U.S. population thinks ridiculous as well. Kevin's girl is merely repeating an obnoxious stereotype. But I should have labeled the actions, and not the person making them. Thanks for the condescension. images/icons/tongue.gif

Kevin's girl
07-21-2003, 08:07 PM
mysteryperfecta: I never ever said: frivolous lawsuits were not possible in Finland. I quoted Jokke_r and he was the one that said that. All I said was yes there are greedy people in America as there is in any country. How the hell do I know what you can and can't do in Finland?! I live in AMERICA!!

And if you think that what I said wasn't true, sorry. People do sue ALOT in America. They probably do in every other country as well. images/icons/smile.gif

Please reread what I posted earlier. I only quoted somebody that said that! You have to check yourself before posting things! images/icons/smile.gif

SkavenRMD
07-22-2003, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the condescension. images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You're welcome!

Now... maybe the rule is, that one person in twenty million is a Stupid Greedy Person who can start a Frivolous Lawsuit. This rule would apply globally, whether the law in the country allows it or not.

There are five million people in Finland. With this number, about 0.25 stupid greedy people can exist within the population. Were that just one stupid greedy person, s/he would have to be a mini-person, who would probably make more money starring in Austin Powers movies than by suing people.

In USA, there are roughly 280 million people; which opens up the possibility for 14 stupid greedy persons to exist within the population. Doesn't that quite correlate with the number of frivolous lawsuits over there?

http://www.modplug.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/roll.gif

[ 07-22-2003, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: SkavenRMD ]

Jokke_r
07-22-2003, 02:01 PM
nice theory skaven... ofcourse i haveto suck up cos he works for remedy. U rock skaven images/icons/smile.gif

SkavenRMD
07-22-2003, 03:21 PM
ofcourse i haveto suck up cos he works for remedy. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hmm. What do you think will happen if you don't suck up to me?

Fraeon Waser Duhni
07-22-2003, 03:31 PM
Maybe he's in fear for a lawsuit for not sucking up? images/icons/tongue.gif

SkavenRMD
07-22-2003, 03:45 PM
Hmm. Now there's an idea... http://www.modplug.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif

biXen
07-22-2003, 04:18 PM
Actually Norway was in some UN statistics or whatever made to be the country people would have a better life in. I think it's pretty much crap anywhere, it's all what you are used to images/icons/wink.gif

Why someone would sue something with an unintended likeness in name though is beneath me. Has he even copyrighted Maxx Payne? which isn't even the same thing? Maybe the rules are funked, but I don't give this guy much of a chance images/icons/smile.gif Let God sort him out...

mysteryperfecta
07-23-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Kevin's girl:
Please reread what I posted earlier. I only quoted somebody that said that! You have to check yourself before posting things! images/icons/smile.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You're right. I mixed you in with quotes by Jokke_r and j. Sorry. images/icons/smile.gif

Jokke_r
07-23-2003, 12:48 AM
i never said " frivolous lawsuits were not possible in Finland"


i said thank god something like this ain'y possible in finland ( im not reffering to "frivolous lawsuits")

but stupid lawsuits cos most people would just laugh at them and say they were stupid and if they wan't some stupid thing like this to go through he'd haveto move to america...

and i am entitled to my opinion and i think the american government and how things are run there is really fu**ed up...

and the right to have a gun is just stupid aswell what the hell woul a guy do with a hand gun. shoot someone ofcourse. he says i need it for protection??? to protect him from what. other people with guns. where id they get their guns. you see things like that should be stopped before they start cos now it is impossible to take the guns away from the people... and lot's of people get killed over this...

why do you think finland is the best country to live... sure we have lot's of taxes. And it's not maybe as cheap to live here. but we don't actually have many people without homes and stuff we have very good wellfare or whatever and shit. so id say im pretty happy to live in finland

[ 07-22-2003, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: Jokke_r ]

Guest
07-24-2003, 01:27 PM
And in the end, this wrestler won't win the lawsuit because he only gets compensated if the courts decide that people could possibly mix up the game max payne and the wrestler maxx payne. about 25 years ago, the firearms manufacturer beretta tried to sue Chevrolet for naming one of their cars the "Beretta" The courts said chevy was ok because no one could possibly mistake a car for a hand gun, so obviously the names weren't competing, and people weren't buying the car because it was named after the handgun. In these cases the courts award people if they think that the products could be mistaken for each other, or if someone should be paying royalties. Obviously in this case, the wrestler and the game won't get mixed up, and Remedy is obviously not borrowing something that needs royalties, it's a common name, and not even spelled the same.

-Andy

QuiGonJ
07-26-2003, 05:23 PM
Oh well, it's no worse than Remedy/Take 2/3Dr or whoever threatening the Wachowski Brothers over Bullet Time, which as far as I'm concerned is intellectual property of the Matrix and not the MP franchise. It was only a matter of paperwork, not what the MP franchise created.

Considering the "Spike TV" nonsense, the wrestler has a chance.

KillJoy
07-26-2003, 06:18 PM
Does anyone remember how Lucasarts got angry because remedy's logo looked to much like theirs?

I do.

biXen
07-27-2003, 07:44 AM
Killjoy: I bet you just read it in my MP History, haha images/icons/grin.gif

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20030726_586.html

Is that new? 10 million bucks, he feels his identity is stolen... HELLO, it's not your frigging name. And all 4 companies are sued it seems images/icons/wink.gif

zakath
07-27-2003, 07:54 AM
you have to know that maxx payne is a person too, and now you stole his identity! shame on you! See , you made him cry ! - you should have followed more wrestling in the '80's skaven ! (tm)

And oh, notice also that he is going to direct movies with Max Payne alias, now really, that's a scary thought... but hey - there's hope still - maybe he could direct the max payne movie !

Uisor
07-27-2003, 11:07 AM
It's true that in UN's list of "best countries to live" Norway was 1st and Finland was 14th, even USA was before us.

In other list "most guns/100 people" USA is 1st and 2nd is Finland.

But still, I'm happy living here and I wouldn't move to USA, mainly because it's so different country compared to Finland.

We have had cases where people have sued tobaco industry because they got cancer, but all of them have losed their cases and payed legal fees after that. Now we have warning stickers on cigaret boxes, that's all.

But in some cases America's laws and punishments are better than ours, like with rapers, in America they can get life sentence when in some cases here they doesn't even have to go to prison.

KillJoy
07-27-2003, 01:21 PM
Here is a pretty interesting link about it:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1209&e=1&u=/ap/20030726/ap_on_hi_te/brf_videogame_lawsuit&sid=95573712

Listen to this guy:

"I left wrestling to come home to Utah and be with my family and I find myself in the biggest battle of my life — to save my identity," said the ex-fighter, whose real name is Darryl Peterson. "They stole something from me that I'm not going to give up."

WHAT A LOSER!!!!! He was probably crying during this interview. "They stole...sniff sniff...my identity...sniff."

Uisor
07-27-2003, 01:59 PM
hey check this guys homepage www.maxxpayne.com (http://www.maxxpayne.com) there's huge list of names which are his "property", whole site is made up because of this law suit crap.

most of the names has never exist before that site.

biXen
07-27-2003, 02:27 PM
The guy should be proud that something cool resembles his former nickname, now he instead looks like a greedy loser. Did you notice on his bio page how all his kids are named with a D in their fist name, because he is, LOL, big ego on that guy.

zakath
07-27-2003, 03:05 PM
I'll start collecting nicks I used to my page also, and sue everyone who uses them.

KillJoy
07-27-2003, 04:00 PM
Lookie Here, Our little memphis idiot also played guitar:

He totally looks like max payne.

http://www.maxxpayne.com/Mann_center_fold.jpg

Ruger
07-27-2003, 04:12 PM
A pic of our rastlin' friend from his Maxx Payne days (Thanks for the link Uisor)

http://www.maxxpayne.com/maxx_in_the_ring.jpg

What's funny about it is the font of the text that says Maxx Payne is the same as on the game. How much you wanna bet he photoshopped it in post-lawsuit to make his case appear stronger?

Ruger
07-27-2003, 05:23 PM
Something I made for fun.

Check it out here. (http://www.reallyevilmovies.com/maxvsmaxx.jpg)

ShakeItBaby
07-27-2003, 06:03 PM
Just another stupid has-been wanker trying to chisel money out of people with talent.

biXen
07-27-2003, 06:25 PM
You daaaamn right...

Bean
07-27-2003, 07:07 PM
Maxx Payne does not equal Max Payne.

also, the name was annouced in 1997, so a 5-6 year wait will mean he probably wont a have a leg to stand on (for $10 million anyway...)

Kevin's girl
07-27-2003, 10:40 PM
I said it once, and I'll say it again:
The dumb @ss wrestler is looking for some quick dough!!
Daryl or whatever may think he's nails for sueing some big gaming companies but really this whole lawsuit thing makes him look like a cheap skate.

Come on you guys. We have to be supportive of him right now. Hes fighting the biggest battle of his life. Ok? (said with enough sarcasim to bring a country down.) images/icons/wink.gif

Is Daryl sure that the biggest battle of his life wasn't when he was in the ring wrestling those ugly people? No? It wasn't? Oh well they try so hard to put on an act that what they do is important and realisic! LOL images/icons/smile.gif

Chimera
07-28-2003, 12:02 AM
Useless fact for the day....

There are 2 "Max Paynes" registered on the electoral roll in Britain. Heard from them yet? images/icons/tongue.gif

Fortune Hunter
07-28-2003, 12:27 AM
"Well my nick name is MAKZ PAYEN so i shoudl sue the pants of the both of them because I made that name up for myself plus im smart, S-M-R-T smart.!!!"

Typical dialogue ^

But this is insane that people are that stupid.
There is no even remote similarity because at first glance of the box you could see that MP isnt a wrestling game Max cant be a wrestler hes to skinny and MAX HAS A REAL BRAIN. I think this Maxx guy's brain fell out after to many body slams.

Congradulations your to stupid to be called human! WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT!

Uisor
07-28-2003, 12:30 AM
even thou' Remedy and other sued companies "stole" that regular male name, that wrestler have never copyrighted "Maxx Payne" or even none of his Payne names.

Well another stupid american fighting biggest battle of his life, as he said it.

Ruger
07-28-2003, 04:31 AM
Wow. The pic I made of maxx fighting max is the max payne headquarters pic of the day.

I feel absurdly gratified and pleased by this development
images/icons/grin.gif

Guest
07-29-2003, 01:57 PM
The guy has to prove that they purposefully made use of a persona he "created" in order to benefit from it. Since he admitted in an interview that he took the name "Maxx" from Max Headroom, which he was a fan of, he hardly created the name. He claims that "film noir" is a major aspect of his character, somehow I doubt this guy ever heard of film noir before someone read him the description of the game. Finally, let's do a comparison:

Fat ugly guy with long greasy hair in a clown suit bouncing around with other guys in a canvas roped-off ring in choreographed stunts involving various wrestling gimmicks.

Slim undercover cop with short hair in dark slacks and leather jacket running through the city's underworld seeking vengeance for the murder of his family by criminals, no body slams or DDT's, just simple bullet through the head.

Yeah, I can see similarities there. Considering that most of the people who played Max Payne probably never heard of this guy before the lawsuit, I can't see how anyone with a brain can say they could possibly benefit by making an imitation of this guy. If they were gonna copy anyone from wrestling, wouldn't it have been someone like Hogan, or The Rock, maybe someone the world would recognize? I think Maxx took too many fake blows to the head, maybe strangled once too much on the ropes, got a little brain damage, if he was even that bright to begin with.

I don't think it is Americans in general that are sue-happy, it is just the outlandish stuff like this that grabs the media attention. We get nutjobs like that up here in Canada too.

Kevin's girl
08-01-2003, 09:18 PM
jydez: You said it all!! images/icons/smile.gif

Commodore
08-01-2003, 10:41 PM
Well even if this guy name Maxx Payne was able to go to court with his case. I highly daught that he would get very far with it. Espescially since using someones name isn't really a major thing anyway. This guy obviously just wants some way to get some money, and this was the only thing he could think of.

LeadBullet
08-02-2003, 08:39 AM
There are real people, in real life who are named Max Payne, and I don't see any of them planning to sue anyone.

Commodore
08-02-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by LeadBullet:
There are real people, in real life who are named Max Payne, and I don't see any of them planning to sue anyone. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's exactly my point. This guy obviously thinks that he has a case. But he'll realize once he gets to court that he really doesn't have much of a case at all. images/icons/grin.gif

shadow fox
08-02-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Co11:
ahh, you can't do anything since maxx payne is technically not max payne...

2nd of all, I know someone named max payne (his real name) and he can't sue either because it's a fairly common name here in the us...

This game obviously doesn't depict the wrestler in any way and therefore he can't do anything 'bout it..

Also, Rockstar games owns the rights to max payne which is why rockstar is getting sued and not 3drealms or remedy... <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">this case is gunna be dismissed due to the fact that not only did "maxx payne" not copyright the name, be he was to stupid to spell it P-A-I-N. and scence time has passed so long and it has been such a sucsessful game that he was... well the case will be thrown out because the name is not copyrighted to him and it is rather a alais owned be the WCW and WWF, not him. graemlins/ted.jpg

SRTDeagle
08-02-2003, 10:39 PM
This sickens me that some stupid ass wrestler, who I never ever heard of, can try to gain some extra money by trying to take down our gaming companies. Screw that. This guy is a piece of shit. I know he will never win... it's a rediculas thing when he says he feels his identity has been stolen. Max Payne isn't anything like him... Max is the shit, this MAXX is crap. Screw em.

- (SRT)-DEAGLE
"LIFE IS A MESS, RUNNING AROUND WORKING AND ALWAYS STRESSED, PEOPLE ENJOY JUDGMENT BEING OBSESSED, NEVER KNOW WHERE LIFE WILL LEAD YOU, NEVER KNOW IF YOUR FRIENDS WILL DECIEVE YOU, LIFE IS A BITCH, DEATH IS THERE, PEOPLE ARE LIKE DEMONS, WITHOUT A CARE."

[ 08-02-2003, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: SRTdeagle ]

Craig
08-03-2003, 06:08 AM
Skaven, surely you guys just ran the name "Max Payne" through google when the game was announced, right?

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Commodore
08-04-2003, 03:57 AM
I certainly didn't.

SkavenRMD
08-04-2003, 05:04 AM
Skaven, surely you guys just ran the name "Max Payne" through google when the game was announced, right?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">EDIT: Sorry, we have to refrain from commenting on pending legal matters.

[ 08-04-2003, 05:08 AM: Message edited by: SkavenRMD ]

biXen
08-04-2003, 05:22 AM
Yeah, that's why I assumed nobody was saying anything.

Daedalus
08-04-2003, 03:48 PM
I just read an article about that wrestler Maxx Payne. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, because I haven't read through this whole topic, but here are some links for those who want to know more:

http://www.maxxpayne.com
The official website of Maxx Payne aka Darryl Peterson.
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07262003/utah/78687.asp
The original article in english.

Maybe there's an unknown wrestler somewhere called Duke Nukem or s.th. like that. images/icons/wink.gif

I fear the worst.

And what about Lara Croft?
Maybe there's an unknown photomodel called like that. That would be funny. images/icons/grin.gif

Kevin's girl
08-05-2003, 12:26 AM
Daedalus: If that were true then the world would be going to hell in a handbasket! LOL

Does anybody know when the court date is? Or has it been set yet? me wonders! images/icons/smile.gif

KillJoy
08-05-2003, 12:55 AM
Ya ya, could we watch it on tv? This is, after all, the biggest court case ever.

SRTDeagle
08-06-2003, 12:17 AM
If you go to www.maxxpayne.com, (http://www.maxxpayne.com) you will see this stupid wrestler's info. I found an e-mail address and I e-mailed these bastards. I gave them a piece of my mind about the subject. I'm sure it was a waste of time, but it sure did feel good. I wish I could see the look on the person's face who reads my e-mail. He/she will be in for a treat. I told them to tell this wrestler that I hated him and he is a piece of SH--. HAHA.. At the bottom of the page you will see this:

-------------------------------------------------

All material* copyright MaxxPayne.com
All Rights Reserved


*Including but not limited to the names
Maxx Payne
Max Payne
Maxx Pain
Max Pain
Maximum Payne
Maximus Paynimus
Paxx Mayne
Lucifer Payne
and
Payne Killer

-------------------------------------------------

This guy is one sick fu__.

- (SRT)-DEAGLE
"Trapped inside the paradox, where my thoughts get twisted like some dredlocks."

j
08-06-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by SRTdeagle:
I told them to tell this wrestler that I hated him and he is a piece of SH--. HAHA..<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm sure the recipient of that email will care. And I'm sure they'll writhe in pain and agony, probably even cry, over the insult you've thrown at them. I'm also sure pigs can fly and that I'm Elvis and Jesus reborn into one, but hey, that's just me.

Daedalus
08-06-2003, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by j:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SRTdeagle:
I told them to tell this wrestler that I hated him and he is a piece of SH--. HAHA..<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm sure the recipient of that email will care. And I'm sure they'll writhe in pain and agony, probably even cry, over the insult you've thrown at them. I'm also sure pigs can fly and that I'm Elvis and Jesus reborn into one, but hey, that's just me. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No, it's not just you. I have to agree with you. That wasn't pleasant and STdeagle shouldn't have written this.

I have mixed feelings about this wrestler. At the one hand I believe him, but at the other hand I think it is suspicious that in 2003 - more than 2 years after Max Payne was released - he pretends that he owns that name.

I mean everyone knew about the game "Max Payne" years before it was released. So why didn't he wrote a letter to 3DR and Remedy BEFORE Max Payne was released and when it was announced for the very first time???

You know, that's suspicious about him and makes me believe he's faking everyone, just to get some fame.

However, this is no reason to insult him like that!

[ 08-06-2003, 06:38 AM: Message edited by: Daedalus ]

Jokke_r
08-06-2003, 06:44 AM
yes it is.

Fraeon Waser Duhni
08-06-2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by j:
I'm also sure pigs can fly...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You never know what gene-manipulation will come up with next. images/icons/tongue.gif

Kevin's girl
08-06-2003, 07:50 AM
The wrestler will have his 5 seconds of fame (that hes aiming for) when he gets laughed out of court!! LOL Come on the only reason he is doing this is for the publicity! Since he is suing all the companies that worked on the game, does that mean all their representatives have appear in court? That would suck.

biXen
08-06-2003, 09:46 AM
Daedalus: You assume EVERYONE has heard of Max Payne? What weirdass world are you living in? At least 90% of the normal population has no friggin clue what it is. So I'll give him that one. Just being a fat wrestler with a similar name (and a pretty damn unoriginal, common badass name) doesn't give him the rights to the name though. I've actually myself when I had my first internet experiences back in 95-96 thought of using Max Pain, it has nothing to do with his identity. Suddenly stamping his photos with MAXX PAYNE with the same font is just lame.