Will there be ragdoll physics?

[Guest]

just wandering if the enemies will flip around like rag dolls after being shot at

[dark_angel]

yep ! this is all done by the Havok physics engine !

[KillJoy]

Havok2 to be exact. There are a bunch of threads on this, I reccomend you read those. They cover pretty much everything.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=004170

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=004083

http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=004128

http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=003956

[ADM]

It is alot more advanced the the physics engine in Hitman. So you won't get enemies in unrealistics positions often, maybe once in awhile.

[Jokke_r]

in my honest opinion death animations would be most realistic and good looking if they were a combination of hand made animation and realtime physics for say. you shoot a guy with a shotgun in the stomach and he flyes backwards but he would also be equipped with realtime physics. so his arm hits a wall or something makinf him flip around and stuff.

hitman 2 deaths were just unrealistic if you shoot someone they do not turn into jelly people that flip around and shit. they should be more stiff.

[ADM]

It all depends how it's configured though Jokke_r, put enough restraints in and you could get them looking pretty realistic.

[FullMetalJacket]

The first Hitman's physics were ludicrous! Shooting someone will not break every bone in his body. Half the time, they'd fall and their knees would bend the wrong way. images/icons/tongue.gif

[scorpion]

hitman was the first game i ever played with ragdoll, at the time it was pretty amazing, but now max payne 2 will blow hitman's physics away

[dark_angel]

And Doom3 physics will Blow MaxPayne2 physics ! images/icons/wink.gif

[KillJoy]

Ya. Doom3 even has physics for how sound bounces off walls/objects and how you would hear it based on the facial structure of the character model. One more tidbit about Doom before I get kicked off for not talking about MP2: In multiplayer, when you die, you don't just fall over. Oh no, instead, as you fall over, your body deconstructs itself "HollowMan" style. But I think it stops once it reaches the skeleton.

[Fortune Hunter]

Doom3 is overated.

MP2 has a basis a reason and a drving force.
Doom3's purpose is te make u puke at all the gross blood soaked monsters.

Nuff said

[scorpion]

doom 3 to me looks like a remake of doom 1 only with way better graphics, physics and story.

[KillJoy]

I just hope it is not as bad as Unreal II.

[scorpion]

i agree, unreal 2 was a big let down.

[jimbob]

unreal2 had ragdol physics?

[j]

Originally posted by scorpion:
i agree, unreal 2 was a big let down. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That kind of depends on what you were expecting. I expected Unreal 2 to be total shite just like Unreal 1 before it, and man, that's just what it was! images/icons/tongue.gif

[scorpion]

Originally posted by jimbob:
unreal2 had ragdol physics? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yes it did

[scorpion]

i agree doom 3 physics will be alot better then max payne 2.

[SkavenRMD]

Guys, let's not let this turn into a Doom III versus Unreal II versus Max Payne 2 argument. There are other forums out there reserved for that.

[Fortune Hunter]

GOOD ON YOU!

Back to MP2 and how its gonna be A GREAT GAME!

[scorpion]

one of the best

[KillJoy]

Greater than greatest.

Guys, let's not let this turn into a Doom III versus Unreal II versus Max Payne 2 argument. There are other forums out there reserved for that. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">IMHO, there is no contest between MP2 and the "others"

[Krursk]

I wonder how people on these forums can make those accurate comparisons between games that arn't even finished or released yet.

[KillJoy]

We can't, but we are cocky bastards.

[Sloth]

Originally posted by scorpion:
doom 3 to me looks like a remake of doom 1 only with way better graphics, physics and story. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">probably because thats exactly what it is.

[Yatta]

Originally posted by Sloth:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by scorpion:
doom 3 to me looks like a remake of doom 1 only with way better graphics, physics and story. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">probably because thats exactly what it is. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">To some people, that's exactly what they need it to be. I needed another DooM, and I'm just happy I can look forward to the second sequel to one of the best selling DOS games. images/icons/smile.gif

[scorpion]

im glad, as much as i liked the first game. At the time i found that not everything made sence, so im glad it's a remake. It will clear up any questions i had, hopefully.