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Joel

08-24-2003, 06:01 PM

HI Everyone,
once again i've been playing Max Payne since it's so darn addictive. But it made me think, "why do I want to keep playing this game?" I must admit, i'm not an action fan, I prefer adventure titles, but I can make the exception for games like this.

For me, it was the carefully crafted story written by Sam Lake that made me want to continue to play the game. The style of story really adheres to the Noir genre. It's a very modern yet original way of keeping Noir relevant with the times. If there was any discrepancy with the game, I probably would have liked more charcter interaction like friendly NPC's and conversations. But the point still remains, Max Payne is a fantastic title and should be a growing legacy in the PC gaming industry. Bring on MP2!

WHat made you want to continue to play Max Payne instead of putting it back on the shelf? Are there some people amongst us that perhaps felt discomforted by the subject matter of the story?

PS: What was the connection between the Mafia and Aeiser Corporation? Why and how were they associated? I understand both of their links to Valkir in how they dealt it and used it, but I don't understand the relationship between the 2 parties.

Dogy

08-24-2003, 06:17 PM

When I got it,story. Now,mods.

Kev_Boy

08-24-2003, 06:43 PM

The KungFu mod made my play it again a week ago images/icons/smile.gif

eggyolk

08-24-2003, 06:44 PM

I think it was knowing that someday, I would get to the finale level. Only, that turned out to be a crock. images/icons/frown.gif

Claws

08-24-2003, 07:33 PM

Kung Fu mod. I had stopped playing the game when I reached part 2, it was way too boring. But the Kung Fu added a much needed spice.

Bushido

08-24-2003, 07:54 PM

I played and beat it like 7 or 8 times. And then messed with the Kung Fu mod a bit and that 1st person mod. other than that, nothing.

...Max Payne NEEDED a random enemy generator...that would've made a world of difference...

Joel

08-24-2003, 08:18 PM

Bushido,
that's a pretty neat idea, it would be like a skirmish mod or something. I like that. I've always thought though that there should be an interactive graphic novel (other than the "stop" and "play" type buttons). Basically, when max is talking to someone, you can select the line of speech he would say or a course of action he would take which would change the direction of the story. Just a thought.

shadow_ninja

08-24-2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Joel:
Bushido,
that's a pretty neat idea, it would be like a skirmish mod or something. I like that. I've always thought though that there should be an interactive graphic novel (other than the "stop" and "play" type buttons). Basically, when max is talking to someone, you can select the line of speech he would say or a course of action he would take which would change the direction of the story. Just a thought. images/icons/mad.gif that would make max payne like resident evil!!! max is a striaght shoot/kill game in opinion! when i fell like thinking and deciding about things other then where i'm going to put the bullet in the goon in front of me .....i'll play tomb raider or resident evil!

asker

08-24-2003, 08:50 PM

Adding a storyline with multiple paths would suck. There are only three ways to do it.

The writer could either divide his time and effort amongst all pathways, in which case they would be poorly developed and not well fleshed out.

Second, you could get a different writer to do each branch. Then, the different parts of the game would seem incongruous.

Third, you could make offshoots that all originally return to the same central path. That would piss people off because it would be falsely suggesting they can change the outcome without actually giving them any freedom. Kinda like Deus Ex.

KillJoy

08-25-2003, 12:32 AM

Deus Ex had three endings, what are you talking about. I played all three of them.

Oh Shadow_Ninja:

In your sig, about the new york thing, the word is bliss, not bless.

08-25-2003, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Joel:
PS: What was the connection between the Mafia and Aeiser Corporation? Why and how were they associated? I understand both of their links to Valkir in how they dealt it and used it, but I don't understand the relationship between the 2 parties. I'm thinking: Aesir needed the Mafia to distribute and sell Valkyr to the users.

Raven

08-25-2003, 06:02 AM

I don't know why I finished it 18 -no joke -times.

Jade

08-25-2003, 06:44 AM

Let's see.......maybe the spectacularity of action in John Woo style or BT. The Story, very deep and full of charism...I love the whole game actually...and when I want to play a good game Max is always in my harddrive. images/icons/smile.gif

Mods of course do their job. images/icons/wink.gif

hemlock_0

08-25-2003, 04:05 PM

I just keep going back for the feel of the game, the mood, the atmosphere. I don't mod except in very unusual circumstances, since a game that is good enough for me to finish is good enough for me to replay. I just love this game, plain and simple. Actually, outside of Max and Diablo II, I don't play anything anymore, since I don't really have the time. Those two just keep calling me.

Guest

08-28-2003, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Joel:
. But it made me think, "why do I want to keep playing this game?" ..... Thats Easy!! Its Cheeziness!!!

Its attempt to come off as serious drama, but turning into more of a Dark comedy!! I loved every minute of it images/icons/grin.gif

That and the fact that its Based around NYC..there isnt nearly enough games based around NYC.. living in brookyn I realized that this whole place is a level map images/icons/grin.gif GTA3 wussed out and turned it into Liberty City.. images/icons/mad.gif
Infact, can't wait for Freedom Fighters images/icons/grin.gif

But Yeah.. Max Payne, the 95 pound weakling, wearing a choker, hawaiian shirt, and that Goofy-ass Grin.. will remain burned in my memory for years to come..!!

Long live the Payne!!! images/icons/tongue.gif

Kevin's girl

08-28-2003, 07:57 PM

I replayed it again because of the story, and because I wanted to get good at it! I want to be one of the best girls at the game! images/icons/smile.gif I don't know if I am because I am the only girl I know who plays Max Payne! images/icons/smile.gif
The story rocks, the characters rock, the game is just awesome! Thats why I wanted to keep playing it!

KillJoy

08-28-2003, 09:38 PM

girl gamers are such a rarity.

At least "out of the closet" girl gamers.

I once heard someone say that girl gamers are just a myth; a unicorn; like a fairy tale or something.

I guess not.

Cheers to Kevin's Girl and Basky for uhhh bieng a girl and playing max payne at the same time.

shadow_ninja

08-28-2003, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by KillJoy:
Deus Ex had three endings, what are you talking about. I played all three of them.

Oh Shadow_Ninja:

In your sig, about the new york thing, the word is bliss, not bless. product of a nyc education! images/icons/tongue.gif images/icons/tongue.gif i'll change it today!

Jade

08-29-2003, 03:51 AM

Qtipie

08-29-2003, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Jade:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KillJoy:
girl gamers are such a rarity.

At least "out of the closet" girl gamers.

I once heard someone say that girl gamers are just a myth; a unicorn; like a fairy tale or something.

I guess not.

Cheers to Kevin's Girl and Basky for uhhh bieng a girl and playing max payne at the same time. Uh??? A rarity??? In Italy lots of girls play videogames...or maybe you're talking about violent ones... <hr /></blockquote>exactly. the sims is a video game, too images/icons/grin.gif i was at this year's game convention in leipzig/germany and i couldn't believe my eyes when i saw all those girls around. some of them probably accompanied their boyfriends, but most gals were just as enthusiastically collecting merchandise and kicking off demos as the guys were. so were they just visiting the fair for meeting boys? images/icons/wink.gif i doubt that.

KillJoy

08-29-2003, 09:03 AM

Well, I live in California, so it may be different over here. Maybe I should move to Italy.

Jade

08-29-2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by KillJoy:
Well, I live in California, so it may be different over here. Maybe I should move to Italy. Think that one time I convinced my mother to try to play Max Payne...lol...she was a disaster with controls..."ahhh....I'm too old for this things..." images/icons/grin.gif images/icons/smile.gif

08-29-2003, 10:13 AM

My mom only ever wanted to play Tetris and Super Mario Bros. 1 (on the NES).

But I do know quite a lot of girls/women who play stuff like Max Payne, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate and so on. Though most of the girls/women I know tend to only play Sims images/icons/tongue.gif

asker

08-29-2003, 04:57 PM

KillJoy:

I don't know how much Deus Ex you played, but how you got through the game had nothing to do with the endings. No matter what you did, you always wound up with those three choices at the end. I played all three; but only by quicksaving 45 seconds before the end and then loading and trying the other endings.

Like every other "decision" you made in the game, it only impacted what happened immediately after. Nothing you can do in Deus Ex will affect the longterm game, except for a few things you can do that will make it impossible to finish (like attacking an ally early on and thus making all friendlies try to kill you).

KillJoy

08-29-2003, 07:11 PM

Well, yah.

I quicksaved too. I thought you were reffering to the endings only, not the majority of the game.

I agree, deus ex only was different in the last choice.

asker

08-29-2003, 09:57 PM

Something that WAS cool about Deus Ex, though, is that a given gameplay situation (a fight, a specific objective, etc) could be handled in multiple ways. You can search underwater for a clue to the code to that door, or you can spend some of your Multitools to hack it open. Or you can blow it the hell up if you have the explosives to spare!

The Baskinator

08-30-2003, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by KillJoy:
girl gamers are such a rarity.

At least "out of the closet" girl gamers.

I once heard someone say that girl gamers are just a myth; a unicorn; like a fairy tale or something.

I guess not.

Cheers to Kevin's Girl and Basky for uhhh bieng a girl and playing max payne at the same time. I was going to bite my tongue on this, but it seems that rarely works for me.

As Jade said, there's nothing special about it.

"Girl gamer" sounds exactly like "girl power" to me. Sounds like someone taught the Spice Girls to play Quake. "Gamer" covers both genders.

I'll say this because a) I'm a butt-head and b) I'm. . . a butt-head:
I don't play video games to impress anyone. And I could bet you that Jade, for instance, doesn't either.

We are not special. Don't praise us for doing something that we, presumably, enjoy very much. images/icons/smile.gif

*turns baseball cap sideways*

Now, to give a statement pertinent to the topic.

I continue to play Max Payne for many reasons. It has an excellent story that, while it is now predictable, never ceases to draw me in. The gameplay never gets old, but then again, has shooting thugs and torching junkies with molotov cocktails ever sounded boring?

Those things keep me playing. But what keeps me loving Max Payne? After all, I still play Unreal Tournament frequently, but I can't honestly say that I'm passionate about it. (i.e. My license plates don't say UT4EVR or something.)

I continue to love Max Payne because of the phenomenal writing. (Aren't you all so surprised?) I've ranted and raved about the brilliance before, but in all seriousness, it is bloody brilliant. Mr. Järvi made it to the top of my favorite authors list with this game.

. . . And, well, as silly as I feel admitting this to a lot of people, his work is one of the larger inspirations for my choosing to go into English and (hopefully) become a professional writer.

images/icons/blush.gif Yeah, well, now you know.

Jade

08-30-2003, 03:43 AM

Ahmen to Basky. images/icons/wink.gif

LeadBullet

08-30-2003, 05:17 AM

PS: What was the connection between the Mafia and Aeiser Corporation? Why and how were they associated? I understand both of their links to Valkir in how they dealt it and used it, but I don't understand the relationship between the 2 parties.Wasn't it something like, the mob was selling it, then later Max found out that Aesir was making it?

MaxPayneFan35

09-08-2003, 03:51 AM

What made me buy and play max payne? I was over at a friends house, and he says to me, "hey man, check out this game. So, I did, and I was like "Jesus, how sweet!" Afterwards, I ran out, and picked up a copy. I have been hooked ever since