The Fallout: Guns and Bullets topic

[Rico]

Well since F:GAB for MP2 really hasn't been talked about too much, i decided to start a topic where the whole team can post some of the stuff we're working on. Our webpage is being redesigned so i think we will use this topic until we get everything set up.

I will start by finally giving you guys a preview of my gibbing system which will be used in F:GAB. I will use a different system for Cinema 2.0 (me and TerminX will cooperate to do it). Everything you see is placeholder of course... this is just a WIP of my current work and does not represent the final product... in fact, i imagine the end product will be far better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The drag marks are also a WIP... i made them in like a minute with photoshop and the code took a bit of thinking but not too much. I haven't seen it done yet so maybe this will raise the bar a bit more for MP2 modding.

I put everything on a webpage to make for easier access and loading times. Trying to keep everything organized here...

Enjoy!

http://www.freewebs.com/ricomods/index.htm

[Cheeser12]

Eeeewwwww.

I love it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Deflex]

OMG MAN, YOU'RE SICK!!!

No just kidding http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif .. Can't wait untill the release. VERY nice http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Aztec]

You already know what I think, looks great. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Uisor]

OMG MAN, YOU'RE SICK!!!

No just kidding http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif .. Can't wait untill the release. VERY nice http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif



Because this is full blown TC you'll have to wait for quite long time before we release this. Allthou' it helps that this TC was originally for MP1 so we have many characters and weapons already done and they are MP2 quality.

Also other work we did for MP1 wasn't total waste of talent, since there's going to be small "mini-tc" for it called Lame-Fallout. It was under beta testing few days ago and will be released soon.

You can check our old site in this (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne/fgab/falloutgunsandbullets.html) address, but it's pretty slow and not very good in any way.

EDIT: And you can see more characters and Lame-Fallout screen in this old topic in MPSource (http://www.maxpaynesource.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=34&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).

[Just like new]

Really funny in a sick kind of way. Looks nice, is it possible you'll show us a vid of it in action?

[Uisor]

vid is coming

[Rico]

Hehe ok, i recorded a quick video of the system in action. Keep in mind this is still a WIP so don't judge anything as final.

I toned down the blood decals to avoid slowing it down too much, but in the final, every gib will leave a blood decal when they touch the ground.

Note that we are going for a cartoony kind of gore, like the original fallout series. Also notice how i shot them before the grenade blew them up, this is because the gibbing depends on how much health the enemy has, so not all enemies will gib with a single grenade. Some of them won't gib unless they are damaged already (gibbing by health, nice little random factor. TerminX helped out with the gibbing by health by the way).

Anyways, the file is now hosted on my freewebs site. I'm also gonna try to get this hosted on L4Y to avoid it sucking up all my bandwidth.

Enjoy.

Gibbing video! (http://www.freewebs.com/ricomods/Gibbing.avi)

EDIT: I also submitted the file to Levels4You.com for hosting. I'm just waiting for them to put it online so i can give you a link.

[TerminX]

Don't forget that blood on ragdoll collisions was my idea, too. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Good job btw.

[Mongorian]

Note that we are going for a cartoony kind of gore, like the original fallout series.



I don't remember fallout's gore being cartoony. I'm curious what you mean. Please, explain.

[Daveman]

Please get it soon. I don't want to have to connect and all that crap, and saving it seems to be going at several kbps......

[Rico]

I guess i could have put it better, we are aiming to produce gore that looks like it came out of a fallout game. Most fallout games were famous for their exagerated gore and violence (cartoony) and for their sense of humor.

Anyways, hope that clears it up. I'm still waiting for the file to be hosted in a better place by the way.

Edit: Term, yes it was your idea but i implemented it on my own :P I had been toying around with it but it didn't occur to me how to do it exactly until just now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Cronos]

That sure is some gore... good lord. Link to levels4you.com as soon as you get it, though... your link sucks. :P

Speaking of which... would it be possible (once the models and bones are more figured out or officially released) to have parts of bodies fall loosely? I imagine the torso splitting animation from one of the Fallout games, where the left shoulder is completely removed (in MP2, anyway, it was attached bit a bit of flesh in Fallout, if I remember right) and flops around loosely, as well as the other part of the body? That'd be crazy good fun.

[Rico]

We've thought about it and the only way we could do it is if we somehow found a way to disable ragdoll bodies after they die. The only possible way we could do this is using a death animation and right now we can only modify a chosen few; burningdeath, grenadedeath and falling death... none of which are caused by regular bullets.

Maybe if we found a way in the future...

[ADM]

Ok I've uploaded it to 3Dactionplanet's FTP so it should be up via Fileplanet in a day.

I'll post the link in abit.

[biXen]

Cool.

Gotta say though, I'm not following the cartoony point either. Fallout's violence looked realistic, as realistic as you can get with drawn sprites, if that's what you mean by cartoony then ok, but it isn't the right word. Capturing that old style is nice though.

[AntiMatter]

i always thought fallout's violence was realistic(ish), but was always over-the-top, kinda stylised...i think thats what he means about 'cartoony'.

[spacer]

i think you should keep everything looking semi-realistic, but keep fallouts sense of humour, like DNF. It wont put off any people who don't like cartoony style, but they'll still get the jokes.
Also i'm just downloading this gibbing vid. Freewebs has reduced my transfer rate to 1 kb/s and I'm on cable modem.
ahh, nostalgia :P

[Rico]

Lol yeah sorry guys, this is the only link i could put up immediately.

And i guess Fallout's violence wasn't cartoony to you guys but that's just how i remember it from when i used to play it. What i mean to say is that we want to reproduce that same feel fallout had. I remember some of the best deaths were the ones where you melted the guys with your laser or the ones where they just completely evaporated and their gibs splattered all over the ground. Good times http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ADM]

Mirror up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/maxpayne/movies/gibbing.zip

EDIT: I'll post a news story at Deep Six on this when I get up... too tired http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kozak]

Looks a bit to gory for me, but I guess that's just Fallout http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I am looking forward to some ingames screenshots with the monsters aswell.

[Uisor]

Looks a bit to gory for me, but I guess that's just Fallout http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I am looking forward to some ingames screenshots with the monsters aswell.



Well here you go... (took with MP1 to show few models in action). There will be allmost all creatures and humans seen in Fallout2.

http://www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne/fgab/kuva035.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne/fgab/kuva015.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne/fgab/kuva032.jpg

[MrUniq]

Is it finished for MP1? I'd love to Kung fu those monsters.

[Uisor]

Is it finished for MP1? I'd love to Kung fu those monsters.



Allmost, it needs few changes and then it's ready. So depending when I make those changes it will be out in week or two.

[TerminX]

Looks a bit to gory for me, but I guess that's just Fallout http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I am looking forward to some ingames screenshots with the monsters aswell.



Well here you go... (took with MP1 to show few models in action). There will be allmost all creatures and humans seen in Fallout2.



Wow, that looks great, dude! Looks like something I'd be looking forward to for MP2, since it can only get better from there..

[Uisor]

Thx, credits for models goes to Madhatter. Weapons, level and particles mabe by me, althou' Joonas fixed and put those particles in game.

[MrUniq]

Awsome..thank you for continuing to work on it. I'd love to play it on MP1. I kinda quit my MP1 project after I completed it initially(no levels).....so I know it took dedication.

[Rico]

Ok guys, i have another mirror for you patient ones. Many thanks to the guys at L4Y for hosting it.

http://www.levels4you.com/review.l4y?file=6383

Enjoy. Any feedback is appreciated.

[Mongorian]

File didn't work for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Rico]

Hmmm interesting... I don't recall what the video was encoded with but i think it might have been DivX 5.1

Try going to www.divx.com (http://www.divx.com) and downloading their player, then try to open the file with it. If not, i'm not sure what might be wrong... Any others having the same problem?


Edit: Uhh... i just downloaded the file from the L4Y mirror, it seems they somehow screwed up the file or maybe posted it wrong? The file weighs 2.50 MB but when you open it nothing is there.

Very weird i must say. I'll get in touch with them.

[Rico]

Aren't I a busy little beaver...


New Gibbing screenshots! (http://www.freewebs.com/ricomods/index.htm)


The webpage has now been updated to include more recent pictures of the gibbing system... I added those flaming gibs I was mentioning earlier. They do fire damage on contact so if you're lucky they will cause some extra havok for you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Also notice some of the new blood drag marks, I'm not too sure about them right now but they do look insanely cool when they mix in with the regular blood after you shoot an enemy. I'm still working on them.

Flaming gibs fly a bit too far, still tweaking them and the other ones.

[biXen]

You're a sick sick man... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Rico]

Heh, what can I say, I try http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anyways, last update for the night... its 4 AM and i'm still modding... I fixed the blood explosion particle and now it should work how it was intended... it no longer gets cut off by the floor like it did before. Tweaked flaming gibs a bit, plus, took a screenshot of the new dragmarks as they are barely visible in the gib pitcures i took.

Here are your updates people:

Updates (http://www.freewebs.com/ricomods/index.htm)


EDIT: Please pardon the image quality, i had to compress them to one of the lowest quality settings so my bandwidth wouldn't be completely drained before the reset date. Ingame everything looks much crisper and detailed.

[Genxer]

Second mirror along with L4Y download.

Here (http://darkedge.levels4you.com/maxmirror/Gibbing.zip) - bandwidth is kinda limited, if you can only use if L4Y main download doesn't work http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[ADM]

Man I want to include this in my Excessive Blood mod, then I can safely say that that would be the bloodiest it could get :P

Please, please, please, please, please, please! :P

EDIT: Posted up on Deep Six.

[Uisor]

Man I want to include this in my Excessive Blood mod, then I can safely say that that would be the bloodiest it could get :P

Please, please, please, please, please, please! :P

EDIT: Posted up on Deep Six.



You didn't ask nicely... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Well... those gibs and particles are F:GAB only (as long as someone rips them http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif), but maybe we could make some kind of a deal...

[spacer]

oh dude..
that gibbing is totally hilarious to watch. I almost killed myself laughing watching that http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I was playing the matrix MPS and right when the track "Anything is possible" gets to the bit where neo stops the bullets, the cleaner just explodes in a cloud of blood XD

and that message at the end, "the perps were perpertrating as cleaners" just topped it off. I think you should change it to "the perps were 'perpertrating' all over the floor"
great job http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Uisor]

Some more info can be found from my webpage PayneStore (http://www.freewebs.com/uisor/index.htm) under Total Conversions. For now it only has basic information, but I'll be adding more screens and links when we have something to show.

From there you can also find 50 tutorial links (MaxEd, MaxEd2, 3dsmax, Milkshape, Photoshop), prefabs and see what I've done for MP1/MP2.

[Kozak]

Man I want to include this in my Excessive Blood mod, then I can safely say that that would be the bloodiest it could get :P

Please, please, please, please, please, please! :P

EDIT: Posted up on Deep Six.


If you give me the limbs and the particles I can make it for ya.

[Rico]

I don't think our team would mind sharing the gib code with you doomed, all i need is the particles and the gibs, plus any other decal or thing you may want to add in as an extra. I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but i also had some of the bigger gib chunks (you can see it in the video, look to the top right) explode into smaller chunks when they hit a surface.

[Cronos]

You're frickin' sick, dude.

Keep up the good work.. This is going to be one Hell of a fun mod:D

[Uisor]

Well maybe we are sick, but we want that this looks as much Fallout as possible and that means lots of blood and gore (as much as MP2 lets us).

[Cronos]

You're darn right it does, hence my telling you to keep up the good work. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I loved the Fallout games, and almost always choose the "extremely violent death" 'skill' ... I forgot what it was called, one of those sub-talents of yours you could choose... where they would almost always die in the most brutal of ways... I mean, I can barely remember a time where someone just fell dead without splattering or bursting into flames! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ADM]

I don't think our team would mind sharing the gib code with you doomed, all i need is the particles and the gibs, plus any other decal or thing you may want to add in as an extra. I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but i also had some of the bigger gib chunks (you can see it in the video, look to the top right) explode into smaller chunks when they hit a surface.



I would love too but I don't think I'd be able to make the gibs and particles http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Uisor: I'll give full credit plus linkage to the F:GAB site and anything else you want just to be able to use it. Is there anything I can do to make you reconsider? I understand if you don't want to though.

EDIT: I can provide the decals but I guess that's about it.

EDIT2: How are the gibs made? What format are they? Maybe I could try make something like that, I've got 3DMax5 so it wouldn't be too hard to model a gib and a particle I guess I could get someone like Joonas or something to make one for me.

If you give me code with temp gibs and particles (like a block for a gib and using the fire particle for the blood then I could replace it easily when I create the gib and particle).

[Rico]

Aww man, looks like my freewebs site ran out of bandwidth. I need to see if I can get some alternate hosting so I can post my updates without the fear of it getting blocked like it was just now. The freewebs page should be accessible again on the 22nd of this month (2 days from now)

So... for those of you who haven't seen the screenshots just hang tight!

[ADM]

Apply for hosting at Deep Six, send an email to whiterabbit@3dactionplanet.com with the subject "Hosting Query" and then just basically post a link to your existing site and explain what you want to use it for and all that jazz and Wabbit will get you sorted out http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Uisor]

ADM, those gibs are made in 3dsmax and they are .kf2 files and projectiles.

As almost all our character models this one is also made by Madhatter. I've been putting it ingame and those who have played FO:Tactics sees that it's still missing shoulder plates, but I hopefully get them in later today.

[hfnl]

Looks mad-nice to me!

[Rico]

By the way, my bandwidth was just reset today, so that means those who didn't get a chance to look at the screenshots can now look over there.

There are also a bunch of screenshots floating around in max payne 2 sites i think.

Anyways, made some progress but nothing i can show in screenshots yet.

[Rico]

Updates:

- Got gibbing system pretty close to where i want it. I won't touch the code for a while now.

- Added armor system and different armor classes: Power armor, leather, etc. (code changes only)

- Combo system is now working... needs some tweaking but i can basically chain 2 attacks together at the moment. I have max using the disarm attack, and if the player presses forward after hitting, he continues the attack with a kick. This is just for testing stuff, i plan on using the system for other more interesting things later...

- Working on new ways of adding more death animations... i think i found a way to squeeze in those awesome shotgun deaths from fallout where you would shoot them and sometimes half their torso would just blow up... fallout fans know what I mean http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sorry fellas, no pretty pictures today... maybe later http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cronos]

Ohhhhohoh... you dirty tease... *twitch*

[Brits_Hit]

Hahah this is ****** awesome, in a sadistically hilarious manner. Just my type of fun http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Smackdown924]

When you pick up different armors, does it actually appear as a skin item? That would be nifty.

[Uisor]

In some cases, yes.

[Uisor]

Some more models, by Madhatter

http://www.maxpaynesource.com/files/metalarmor.jpg
http://www.maxpaynesource.com/files/yelowmutant.jpg

[Silver-Bullet]

OUah that's fricky ! keep up the great jobe !

[Kozak]

I already posted this at mpsource but gonna do it again:
Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's looking superb.

[Thiefmaster]

That is one nice mutated ogre-looking-thingy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Soma205]

i was just wondering, in the final mod, will the characters "pop" if killed by any explosion damage, or will the liimbs, gibs, etc. fly away from the blast?

[Uisor]

No they won't just "pop". Like in those newest screens in Rico's site, there flies lims, gibs etc.

[Brits_Hit]

That ogre dood is insanely badass, but I must say the human looks like a deuchbag. Also, his proportions r very odd. It's all well and good if the Ogre has retarded proportions but humans must be accurately modelled.
Other than that, damn this looks nuts.

[torso boy]

both non-humans are completely awesome...but that human needs a little work....especially the face

[Uisor]

Are there anyone talented enough who could make us new webpage?

If you think you have what it takes, let us know.

Also some mappers are welcome, but I want to see samples from your work.

[Rico]

I have uploaded some screenshots of the latest changes I have made to the gibbing system to the MPZone FTP upon their request, so if you want to see the latest screenshots please go over to their website and take a look when the news are posted about it. Below is a copy of the PM I have sent them along with the files:


Ok, I have uploaded the shots to your FTP. These are screenshots of the latest work I've done on the gibbing system. The yellow explosions are the normal MP2 grenade explosions which I had previously disabled for all past screenshots. We might decide to include new particle effects for the F:GAB explosions or we might keep the regular MP2 ones... the system looks much better in action of course as with any other gibbing system.

I'm still not sure if the normal MP2 grenade explosions will fit in with the gibbing, all previous shots were taken with the explosion particle effect turned off. These new ones have it turned on again...

Max Payne Zone (http://maxpayne.gamigo.de/)

The site is in german, a language I do not speak. I think they will post the shots in their main page though, so finding them shouldn't require knowledge of the language http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Other Updates


- Work still goes on... the combo system has been giving me some trouble lately. The fundamentals are there but it still needs major tweaking, screenshots to come when it's at more advanced stages.

- Been working on adding some new death animation chunks and tricking the game so I can get more than just the two we have available (burningdeath and grenadedeath). The method works well for what we need it to do... expect to see it used with energy weapons (Can anyone say "Death by plasma"?). Need particle effects for it and graphical content in general... it's already coded in, I just need to replace the placeholders.

- Shotgun death seems possible... more updates on that later.

- Gonna start work on improving the enemy AI for our own uses... mainly making them smarter and perhaps able to use melee weapons effectively. Making them able to use the hand to hand combat system we will be implementing later is a priority.


Whew... anyways more updates as they are available http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ADM]

Request permission to use those screens in a news update at Deep Six http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

EDIT: When they're up at that Max Payne site of course, or you could email them to me at adoomedmarine@3dactionplanet.com

[Rico]

Sure go ahead, just give me a location to upload them to and I will be glad to.

[ADM]

Oops you posted just as I made the edit on my post http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Email them to me at adoomedmarine@3dactionplanet.com

[Kozak]

Hey Rico when you say adding new death anims you mean replacing the existing ones or adding real new death anims.

[Rico]

I mean new death animations. I can only have up to 4 new animations.

[Kozak]

Wich characteranimation ids did you signed to them?

[Rico]

I didn't, i found a way to use the custom death animations for certain projectiles.

[Rico]

Ok quick update: I have uploaded some new videos to a few MP2 websites so expect to see the newest version of the gibbing sometime soon.

ADoomedMarine: I have one of these videos for you so you can put it up at DeepSix if you so desire. The video is exclusive to your site so it can only be seen there first. I will work on uploading the other videos to other mirrors so you guys can see them.


I will need your FTP info so i can upload the file ADM, just PM me and I will send it as soon as possible.

[ADM]

Sent the details http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Thanks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rico]

Sent http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Rico]

Ok fellas, new gibbing screenshots and exclusive video at MPZone. I don't recall which of the videos showed flaming gib interaction with enemies but I'm pretty sure it was this one... expect another video to be up at deepsix soon.

Link:

http://maxpayne.gamigo.de/?zone=post.comment.php3&news_id=1424

[ADM]

Exclusive video up at Deep Six:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~maxpayne/site/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=289&Itemid=2

[Sheikah]

that looks ******* awesome, so, I guess we'll see a "gore payne" mod some day after this ^_^

Looks cool man, real cool!!

[Sayantan]

I cant believe I never checked out this awesomely cool thread. This is just one of the most unique mod in the MP community. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Keep Up The Gr8 Work guys. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Rico]

Progress has been going a bit slow on the coding side of things lately but I'm dropping by to tell you guys we have a new forum for the mod here. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/paynestore/index.php?showforum=7)

Please I encourage everyone to take a look at our new forums and maybe provide a community for us. We aim to keep everyone updated on our progress and maybe get some feedback on what people would like and what they think about stuff... nothing keeps a mod team going more than an active community eh?

Hope to see you guys around in our new forums... we will keep updating this thread too every once in a while but you will get frequent updates in the new forums.

[Thiefmaster]

Thanks to you, i've begun playing Fallout. It is a great game. Thank you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[hypokinetic]

Holy shit.

Nice advanced power armor there. Very nice.
The metal armor character could use a bit of proportioning, but I think the mutant looks damn near perfect.

Now...how about an alien blaster...or a turbo plasma rifle??
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Keep up the GREAT work man, this mod is going to rock

[Uisor]

another BOS guy, this time it's scribe.

http://www.maxpaynesource.com/files/scribe.jpg

this is what Madhatter (modeller) has to say:


Model of Brotherhood scribe. Proportions of humans will be based on normal human skeleton(i wasn't paying too much attention on that), mutants and animals on modified.



BTW, Rico already mentioned that forum I made for PayneStore and F:GAB.

I'll gather all screens I can find there and for now on most of the info will be given out there, but that doesn't mean we won't give info, screens or videos to other places (like D6, MPZone or MPArea).

[Uisor]

And 3 new green mutants:

http://www.maxpaynesource.com/files/oldnewmuties.jpg

These are new versions of our old green mutants, which are used in MP1. Those and all other character models can be seen in here (http://s4.invisionfree.com/paynestore/index.php?showtopic=14&st=0&)

[Thiefmaster]

Very nice mutants.. Could you make one with the upper lip tied up with a string, or rope of some sort? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[madhatter]

Changes like that will be added latter, mostly now i'm workin on base models, litle changes like that are easy when you have something to work on. Uisor will link last mutie for now that i done (metal armored one).

[Kozak]

This looking nice!

[Uisor]

Changes like that will be added latter, mostly now i'm workin on base models, litle changes like that are easy when you have something to work on. Uisor will link last mutie for now that i done (metal armored one).



Ok, then.

http://www.maxpaynesource.com/files/armormutant.jpg

[Jokke_r]

thats awsome dude... commercial quality http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cronos]

Damn you guys! Damn you all!
... you've got me back into Fallout 2 ... and I'm loving it ... again. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[0marTheZealot]

commendable work man

beats the shit outta those tweak mods

[Grifter]

Hehe, awesome work as always. I can`t wait to play Fallout with bullettime, this is gonna rock. I love your modelling madhatter.

[Rico]

Hey fellas.

As some of you may have noticed I have been on a somewhat extended abscence, the reasom being because I moved last week and have been without access to the internet until today. I still need to get some of my stuff fixed but expect me back in the forums posting updates by next week,

Mod updates:

- I have added some sounds to the gibbing code which i took from the painkiller demo. They sound quite meaty and nice and I will keep them as placeholders until I get better sounds (or ask for permission).

- I came up with a way of adding hand to hand attacks and melee attacks to enemies. This system will allow us to create smarter enemies who react to what you do. So far i got them to attack me if i came within a certain distance with a punch, then they back off and fire at you with their original weapon.

- I have unlocked another 2 damagetypes... this means more things i can add http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

- Fixed up splatter code for bodies contacting a surface, you have seen screenshots already.

I have plenty more things i have done... expect a more thorough update when i get back.

[madhatter]

But have you managed to add only hand to hand weapon like pipe(not just using good old F).

[axelstone]

all looks like its comin along nicely.... a definate change from those shitty tweak mods ... but of course... the fineshed product.. let alone a beta is still far away... anyone care to guess how long till its out

[Uisor]

Well it's long, long away, may I say http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wid.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Well seriously there won't be anything playable released in 3 - 4 months, least. That's because so far I'm only confirmed mapper and I have also other things to do than mapping.

[Rico]

Madhatter: If you mean melee weapons a player can use that is extremely easy and I wouldn't worry about that. The enemies in MP2 are kind of stupid when it comes to programming them so I had to pull some tricky stuff to get them to smarten up. I'm still working on making for example an enemy that only attacks with hand-to-hand attacks, the code for that is pretty much done but I need to tweak them a little bit so they won't try to fire at you from far away (punching at the air). Shouldn't take long now that I know my way around the AI... MP2 AI was definitely not made for hand-to-hand combat.

Ah yes, I'm not sure if I've said this already but I altered the ragdoll physics a tad. This is a very old change I just forgot to mention it I guess. Basically I made bodies fly like you would expect them to, if you shoot a guy with a shotgun blast to the chest he will fly backwards with his arms and legs extended forward, his head tilted forward and his chest taking all the force, here's a diagram for those who don't understand what I mean :P

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Hmm, i guess it knind of looks like that except the torso is farther back and the head is tilded forward... bah ok, easier way to explain: They die like they would die with a normal death in fallout (fall back with force).


Eh, more to come as I get to it.

[Kozak]

Well there is a shortrange option in the weapon.txt so maybe that will help the Npc. I have also found a way when u use kungfu then the enemies will use kungfu too.

[Rico]

Nah, the short range option in the weapon text file doesn't help any, I already tried that. However I would be intereted to know how you did your hand to hand stuff with the enemies. Send me an email or PM and we can talk.

[Rico]

One More update before I come back to my usual routine (my network should be fixed this weekend):

- Added a hand-to-hand system (I despise the word kung-fu describing hand to hand attacks and martial arts). All I need are the animations to implement it. The combo system is still there but it needs tweaking as i never ironed all the bugs out in the first place. I can make wallruns combos and other stuff like that.

- Different moves for different abilities in your unarmed attack level... meaning, as you advance you will get more moves and attacks. I might go for a leveling system depending on how I feel about it. I do not feel it is worth the work just yet... but we do have different levels of attacks, just implemented in a different way from the usual KF3 people expect. (Change is good sometimes)

- Throws: Yes, that's right I said throws. I'm working on ways to implement throws and locks into the unarmed combat system. While this was not seen in the Fallout universe I believe it is a nice addition nonetheless to the TC so I will work on that for a while. I have a pretty good idea on how to do it and all I require to get it to beta stages is some animations. Perhaps I will post screenshots when I feel I can show you guys something http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Ok, that's it for the update... I don't have any screenshots to show you people just yet but wait a while and they will come in due time.

[Thiefmaster]

Rico = Master Jedi

[Cronos]

Rico ... for the throws ... are we talking potential grappling moves to break/wound/"critical" limbs? I'd love to see flying armbar's and whatnot to break arms and disarm people, forcing them to switch hands and punch, or limp (depending on the type of attack)... that'd kick ass. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Rico]

I still haven't decided on that, hopefully I will be able to implement something like that in order to make the move be useful.

[Uisor]

well, we could make it disarm enemies.

[Rico]

Yes I was thinking about that... I'm also thinking of ways to implement the limb damage system if possible. Nothing coded since I need to get some ideas on how to do it.

[Rico]

Yay I'm back and now I'm on a wireless network http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I can finally get back to work on my more important stuff... I'll be around more from now on.

[madhatter]

Yea, great work for now, i'll get back to workin soon as i finsh some stuff in few days. How fast is wireless?

[Aztec]

Keep it up guys this mod is going to be great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Rico what type of wireless do you use, G or B?

[Rico]

We have a wireless G accesspoint through which we route the connection. This means we connect the DSL modem to a router first, then from the router to the access point. The connection is probably not going as fast as it should since I only have a wireless - B receiver card and the acc point is G, but it's decently fast whenever it's not INCREDIBLY slow. Yesterday I could not even open a webpage and today I can't tell the difference between wireless and a regular network.

I think last night can be blamed on my ISP though... damn Verizon.

It should be faster after I get a G card.

[Rico]

We still need a webmaster, a sound effects guy and of course mappers are always welcome.

[Uisor]

new F:GAB site opened in Deep Six (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne/fgab/index.html)

[MentalSentinel]

Is it just me or are all D6 hosted sites down?

[Uisor]

Works fine with me and many else, but I know that it doesn't work with Suprakarma.

[Grifter]

Good looking site there, works fine with me too. Especially the new charas in the media section are cool, gj there madhatter.

[Kozak]

I'm loving it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Nice stylish design, but I am more a Verdana than a Georgia man and than still more a TNR fan than a Georgia fan but still it looks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif.

[Uisor]

Ok, here's bunch of new models Madhatter has made. I've started to put them ingame and one screen shows scribe who replaces Bravura (if for some reason you decide to play normal MP2 levels).

First our main character:

http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/john_doe.jpg

and rest:
http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/raider.jpg
http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/scribe2.jpg
http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/bos_dude2.jpg

2 weapons made by me:
http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/laser_rifle.jpg
http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/flamer.jpg

[Chetic]

Does he animate and talk like Jim?
Could be kinda cool ^_^

[Uisor]

and the ingame screen

[Chetic]

lol
really cool ^_^

[Phait]

I love FO and I'm really looking forward to this. However I think that flamethrower could use a better skin, and a couple models could use some face work.

Maybe this was mentioned already, I haven't been reading the entire thread yet, sorry :P