Batman Begins

[Geo-King]

I have a good feeling about this movie. I love the fact that they actually show him training. A lot of movies just show some super bad ass that has all these skills of ass kickiry, but never really show where they obtained them.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">
From what I have heard, who trained him and where the mask comes from will be shown. I heard that the masks origin is somehow related to the samurai? Don’t know if that’s true or not yet.
</td></tr></table>

[Beelze]

Videos:

Interviews with Bale (about Batman, the Batsuit, and the Batmobile.) (http://www.iesb.net/movies2/movie032505.php)

[Scooter]

man, the batmobile sucks hard on this one http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[Nacho]

I like it. It looks more realistic.

[Beelze]

Some trailer (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbol/uk/movies/batman_begins/F4/batman_begins_tlrf4_qt_500.mov)

I'm still in love.

[Tang Lung]

Will it have a worldwide release, or do the US get it 7 months before the European suckers?

[Beelze]

It's June 15 for all lucky americans, and I think it'll premier on the first of July in Sweden.

[Beelze]

These 10-OR-SO MINUTES FROM BATMAN BEGINS (http://www.rustbucketbingo.com/video/The%20Batman%20Begins%2010%20Minute%20Preview%20Fr om%20Smallville-1.avi) made me fall in love with the movie all over again.

[Kalki]

Beelze said:
These 10-OR-SO MINUTES FROM BATMAN BEGINS (http://www.rustbucketbingo.com/video/The%20Batman%20Begins%2010%20Minute%20Preview%20Fr om%20Smallville-1.avi) made me fall in love with the movie all over again.



Holy shit that was good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Edit: n/m]

[Beelze]

Some review from AICN. (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=20304)

Now, all I hope for is that the fear gas hallucinations actually creep me out, and this reviewer seems to think that they will.

[Kalki]

That 10-minute preview was all the incentive I needed to go watch this movie. If I had any doubts about Bale, they're gone now.

[Scooter]

link's not working http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Beelze]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_begins/

I'd say it's going very well with the reviews. Most of them are reviews saying that the movie is good, great even. And the reviews that would say otherwise, well, what they regard as flaws, I regard as good things about the movie. Regular complaints are "it's too dark", "it won't appeal to the kids", and "it's not like Burton's movies."

"This is the best Batman movie ever by far."
-- Richard Roeper, EBERT & ROEPER

Tomorrow, it Begins! (For some people)

[Kalki]

For me it begins three days from now. So please don't spoil anything until then. I've been hyping myself about this movie all week, watching the teasers, trailers and the 10-minute video. Can't wait. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Btw, I'm would have to take a nauseatingly long bus journey to watch it on an Imax. Is it worth it? Will an Imax version be reduced in length or something to fit the format? The only Imax movie I ever saw was Matrix Revolutions and I'm still undecided about the experience. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Dr.Dude]

Can't friggin' wait... seeing all the trailers, commercials, reviews and so on has really convinced me that is the live action Batman movie I've always wanted to see happen. It's rare that everything seems to come together so perfectly for a movie.

Which just makes it worse that I'm not going to be able to see it until about a week after it actually comes out. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Aaargh, avoiding the spoilers is gonna make for one hell of a tap-dancing, ducking 'n dodging routine.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kev_Hectic]

There's a theater near me that's going to be showing a one day in advance screening tonight, so I'll probably be going to see it then. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Burfid]

Going to see it tomorrow. I kinda got bet into wearing a little kids batman outfit to it. And by little kids i mean like ages 5-8. Fully equiped with utility belt, batarangs, grappling hook, mask, cape and skin tight outfit. I'm gonna make such a fool of myself, but hey, I only live once, might as well make a total ass out of myself while i still cam. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[GodBlitZor]

Get a picture!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Burfid]

lol we've already taken pleanty but most of them came out to dark or blurry. We'll probably take more tonight. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Akari]

it was pretty lame

[ADM]

Akari said:
it was pretty lame



psshh...


I saw it last night.. it was great.

Now that's out of the way let me just say I HATE Batman.. I lost hope on the character along time ago and I thought nothing would change my way... that is until I saw this movie.

It kicked all sorts of ass and I gotta say it's the best Batman movie ever, even better then Tim Burton's Batman.

They have changed the story quite abit but it works, theres not alot of over-the-top CG in this so it's quite good. Action is pretty cool and the overall atmosphere of the movie is amazing.

It delves more into his backstory and how he become Batman then anything and it actually makes me respect the guy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Great movie.. check it out.

[asbestos]

Yes, this was a great movie. Totally captured what Batman is 100%. I saw it opening night at midnight, and again the next night. Loved it! Think Blade Runner mixed with Batman comics/The Animated Series.

[Paroxysm]

Best Batman by quite a wide margin.

[Logic Bomb]

Definately the BEST batman. I just saw it tonight and must say...wow. There was only 1 horrible part in the movie that could of EASILY been changed but it didn't ruin the awsomeness too much, highlight spoiler tag to see it:

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The radiowave device had a good thing going for it until they turned it on and it didn't kill anyone. Yup, evaporates water at speeds i don't even think are possible but go ahead and stand near it, it's cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif</td></tr></table>

Seriously though, best batman movie ever. I want them to make more movies in this style.

- LB

[Paroxysm]

Logic Bomb, yes exactly. That does suck horribly and bugged the hell out of me but I let it go and just enjoyed, they could have worked out a better opperation of it or something.

[ADM]

Haha yeah didn't think of that.. wouldn't it evaporate all the water in the human body, hence killing everyone as well? Unless it works on a different signal.. no idea http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Ronald McDonald]

OMG I've just seen it last night http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif Way, way better than those cartoony batman movies.
Very dark and atmospheric. Ra's Al Ghul is the best enemy yet. It's like his motives aren't human and incomprehencable by humans.

[Kalki]

Saw it this morning. Best movie this summer. Best overall Batman movie. And if felt lengthy too, in a good way. That was the only reason I didn't head back to the ticket counter and watch it all over again. Maybe in a few days, after I've absorbed it.

Ra's Al Ghul was great! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Spoilers Ahead!

Just thinking, the 10-minute trailer was very revealing. I thought all those scenes in his training were glimpses and fast cuts but no, that was the actual progression of it in the movie. Very fast cuts, trailer-like. I was expecting the caped crusader to make an entrance only towards the end of the movie.

So on the whole it didn't feel much like the overly detailed Origin spell out I was expecting. He knew exactly what he was doing and what his goals were going to be based on the few flashes of advice from Ducard. They did brief nods to the preparation parts before presenting us with the final figure. Which was a good thing because it retained some of the enigma that would have been lost in the Preperation sequences, one of my worries eliminated!

Even better were his little failures on the field that we were allowed to see! Made him human again.

For me, the lowpoint was little Bruce's acting. I mean when his parents died... it was like he didn't know what the contextual scenes around him were and what he was supposed to be reacting to. They should have gone with a different child actor, hard as that is to say. Maybe it's because I had expectations considering the movie. I'd have cheered him on if it was just a school play! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Reviews said Caine as Alfred was funny. True, but my greater impression was that he was endearing.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> Question: When Bruce makes his entry into the monastery and Ducard was beating him up, he mentioned jujitsu and other martial arts. I didn't quite catch the dialogue here. Was he telling Bruce what he was about to learn (what he would be taught there) or pointing out the styles Bruce had already learnt and was attempting to employ in defence?

Logic's spoiler didn't occur to me really but I was expecting Gordon's antidote vials to explode.

The plot twist was something I didn't expect. I was expecting the lazarus pits instead. And the ending was cool too. Even when I saw the back face of the card, I had doubts they were actually going through with it. As I was leaving the theatre, I realised they didn't display the title at the beginning, did they?</td></tr></table>

Very real, very cool movie. What I wanted and yet not what I expected!

[asbestos]

Totally, they don't show the title of the movie until RIGHT AT THE END. It was great, totally gives this feeling of, "That's right, that was Batman, and it was awesome. BOOM."

Regarding your spoiler...

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I was under the impression that Ducard was calling out each of Wayne's fighting styles as he did them. </td></tr></table>

I would also agree with comments regarding the young Bruce actor (kid couldn't shed a tear at all) and the quick editing. At times it makes sense, ala disorientating fight scenes, but there's even slow moments where two characters are talking and the camera still cuts back forth rather frantically. That kind of continues through the entire movie and at times can be a bit unnerving.

[Beelze]

How cool to be able to walk in here, and actually see spoiler tags. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/thumbsup.gif

Now, I await Dr. Dude's 20-page-review!

[Needle]

Seen it, liked it.

The only thing that bothered me were the super close up/ten cuts per second/shaky-cam action scenes.

[shiranui]

It was ok. The fight scenes were awful though - half the time you couldn't see what was going on.

That said, I eagerly await the sequel.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I liked it, I am glad that they used much less cgi than most action movies.

[Logic Bomb]

Inanimate Carbon Rod said:
I liked it, I am glad that they used much less cgi than most action movies.



A LOT of real bats were used from what i read.

- LB

[Beelze]

It was "ok", and the fight scenes were awful... yet you eagerly await the sequel? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[FullMetalJacket]

asbestos said:


Regarding your spoiler...

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I was under the impression that Ducard was calling out each of Wayne's fighting styles as he did them. </td></tr></table>






Agreed. Mainly because...

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">Bruce would've had to have known jiujitsu or something, after all, how the hell else would he have been able to beat the hell out of those seven thugs twice his size in the prison?</td></tr></table>


Damn impressive film. Definitely one for the DVD collection. They need to make like six more of these!

[Nessus]

It was ok. I would have liked it better if the villain was more fleshed out.

[Michelangelo]

I'm not big on remakes but this looks like a WINNER http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Beelze]

Nessus said:
It was ok. I would have liked it better if the villain was more fleshed out.


I was afraid this movie would try too much. I mean, there are about three villains and then Batman. The latter needs a big introduction, and the others need something too. Do you think they failed in giving the villains an alright introduction, or did you just want a bit more?

[Nacho]

I'm seeing this today.

Can someone tell me if the Scarecrow is in it for a fair amount? He's my favourite villain.

[Nessus]

The movie was moslty over before I realized there was going to be a villian at all. Even then the whole plot surrounding the villain wasn't very dramatic. Towards the end of the movie I was just waiting for it to end.

[Kalki]

Nessus:

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I didn't feel that way about the villain at all. I mean he revealed his objective (strangely so concerning Bruce) early on and the pall of his return was hanging over much of the movie, starting even before Batman makes his first major entry. Once he arrived again(towards the end, sure), you found that his mission had consequences that cast a shadow over almost everything that led us to that point.</td></tr></table>

[Kalki]

Crane is in it for a small amount, nothing major. But he wasn't too distinct from the scarecrow persona either (like I was expecting) so he makes his presence felt more than any other villain. But he is a secondary figure, a point man. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ronald McDonald]

The primary character is Batman himself and the villains are secondary and third.
This movie is about how Batman became to be and what his motivations are, besides the killing of his parents.

[Nacho]

I loved it. Saw it last night.

[someguy2435]

Really spectacular movie. Only other way to describe it would be to use vulgar expletives http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

10/10

Great acting, plot-driven, good pacing and excellent action sequences. More intriguing than the others. In the first four movies, Batman was already who he was and here it details how he became Batman, and what motivated him to do so. Although I wouldn't know for sure, I've heard that this movie is more connected with the comics than the first four. This movie definitely makes up for Joel Schumacher's duds.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I especially liked the Joker reference at the end. </td></tr></table>

[pjohnsonjr]

Only thing I can suggest is get rid of Katie Holmes, which they are doing. Yeeeeeeeeeesss. This was a great movie and deffinantly makes up for last two that tarnished batman movies.

Joel even thought "The Lost Girls" was a good idea http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif. Just like nipples on the batsuit....

I'm glad they're getting away from that "Because their big names" style of casting and casting people who can portray the part. The casting for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin was taking the actors of that year and putting them into a batsuit or batvillian costume.

This one was great, want to see a better Batmobile, more sleeker and aerodynamic one... I'm looking forward to a Batman Sequel for the first time since '89.

[FullMetalJacket]

someguy2435 said:
I've heard that this movie is more connected with the comics than the first four.




It is. Bruce's parents were killed by Joe Chill in this movie, as in the comics; in the original 1989 Batman film, they were killed by Joker.



pjohnsonjr said:
This one was great, want to see a better Batmobile, more sleeker and aerodynamic one



For the record, the Tumbler kicked ass. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[hellchicken]

FullMetalJacket said:




It is. Bruce's parents were killed by Joe Chill in this movie, as in the comics; in the original 1989 Batman film, they were killed by Joker.



Jack Napier!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


pjohnsonjr said:
This one was great, want to see a better Batmobile, more sleeker and aerodynamic one



For the record, the Tumbler kicked ass. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



It sure did. This Batmobile was great, but I hope the design will evolve into something sleeker. Nonetheless the Tumbler will never be forgotten. Best car chase since Terminator 2. IMHO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[avatar_58]

I thought it was pretty good, but like in all superhero movies....they never seem to give enough time to the villans. Overall though it ranks up there along side Burton's Batman movies!

[Logic Bomb]

Curious though.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> After the gas was released into the air and everyone went insane, does that now mean that the entire center island of gotham is permanently insane or does the little talk of a mass-antitdote mean as people drink water they go back to normal. Even still though, theres a time limit before it's permanent. With the girl it seemed like she only had an hour tops, in the city it seemed very "get around to curing them" </td></tr></table>

- LB

[Nacho]

No no,

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The girl was hit with a heavy dose of it that would be permanent if it wasn't for the antidote. The citizens of Gotham where effected with a not so bad version of the gas, so after a few hours they would get back to normal. The antidote is to prevent anyone from beeing effected again. </td></tr></table>

[FullMetalJacket]

avatar_58 said:
I thought it was pretty good, but like in all superhero movies....they never seem to give enough time to the villans.



Actually, in Batman Returns, we pretty much saw more of Penguin, Catwoman and Max Shreck than we did of Batman. And hell, we only saw Bruce in like 4 scenes.

[Viper Knight]

Great well-rounded cast.

[Nexus_sa]

Well, I got to see it last night.

Absolutely awesome movie. It just kicked Spidey 2 and XMen 2 off of my favorite super hero movie's list and took the #1 slot.

Nex

[Beelze]

<font color="red">SPOILERY IMPRESSIONS</font>

I got to see it a couple of years later than most of you, but I'll post my impressions anyway:

PROs
Surprisingly smart, and epic, story
Sure, you could figure out several things before you were told them, but it's still a good story.
Nailed the Bruce/Batman persona I wanted to see
Also, Bale is now my favorite of the Batmen.
Did not create a true love relationship between Bruce and Rachel
I usually dislike this. I'm glad they seemed to end the movie as friends.
Many more things!

CONs
Too little background on Jonathan Crane
Something about how he became the way he is would've been nice.
Too chaotically filmed close-combat scenes
Other action scenes were nice, and most scenes involving the Tumbler were great.
Hm, probably something else, too...

Nitpicks
Too much comic relief
Never expected Nolan to let that happen. I wonder if some of it will be gone in any eventual director's cut.
The fear effect could've created more horrid visions
For example, Batman didn't have to look like an evil version of Shrek, he could've been a horrific Bat-demon.
Just some other very minor nitpicks

Favorite scenes
Besides the big chase with the Tumbler, I loved those involving Batman leaving Ra's Al Ghul to his fate at the end, and when Batman pulled Carmine Falcone out of the car (- What the hell are you? - I'm Batman!)

I also loved the sudden introduction of Crane's Scarecrow person. Sure, many knew it was coming. For those not knowing Batman, it must've been a bit of a shocker (not that he was villainous, but what kind of a villain he was.)

Well, I love so many scenes, including all the touching "why do we fall?" scenes, so there's no big point in listing them all.

Overall impression
My favorite superhero movie to date, and one of my favorite movies (don't know how high it'd rank, but it's up there somewhere). Spider-Man 2 used to be the one.

[Kalki]

Nacho said:
No no,

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The girl was hit with a heavy dose of it that would be permanent if it wasn't for the antidote. The citizens of Gotham where effected with a not so bad version of the gas, so after a few hours they would get back to normal. The antidote is to prevent anyone from beeing effected again. </td></tr></table>


Actually,
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">Gordon at the end says that the "Narrows" that area of Gotham "was lost". I'm guessing it's gonna be a spawning ground for future villains.</td></tr></table>

[Opus131]

shiranui said:
The fight scenes were awful though - half the time you couldn't see what was going on.




Yep, i didn't like the action scenes either.

It was alright, but the plot seemed a little puerile to me and at times downright silly.

I also agree the villians weren't fleshed out enought. The Scarecrow in particular really felt gratuitous, i mean :

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">He was just another henchman and not a villian at all. His ability to induce terror was based on the drug used by the ninjas, which means his abilities weren't his. Anybody could have been the 'scarecrow'. His service to Ra's Al Ghul was that of a lawyer...</td></tr></table>

[Beelze]

Well...

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">I think it was said that Crane weaponized the drug. Also, for all we know, Crane might've introduced the drugs abilities to the League of Shadows before they knew about it themselves.

Dr. Crane might have the secret to making it work best. When with the League of Shadows, Bruce only got a small dose, perhaps the best the League could do on their own.

I agree though that having the hallucinogens available to the ninjas made him less special, but for all we know he might've been the Scarecrow a long time without having any authorities find out about it. The sharing the hallucinogens had to be in the story. Anyway, he was the only one who frequently used the hallucinogens like a real weapon and he was a sadistic person, while Ra's al Ghul only intended to have to use the tactic once.

Also, I don't see how the story was juvenile. 'Insane' is a better word, and the word that's supposed to describe the plot. It was the kind of plot Ra's al Ghul would've thought up and the Scarecrow fit well with it. The only other villain that would've fit would've have been the Mad Hatter, but that would've made for a version with a much stronger sci-fi touch.

Perhaps you just can't stand epic superhero stories? Myself, I was surprised by how smart the plot was. I had expected less.</td></tr></table>

[Nacho]

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I think the Scarecrow should be in the next one along with the Joker. But his time have a full costume to him and he's more meaner since he now has more experience. He never did get caught as far as we know so it's possible. </td></tr></table>

[Dr.Dude]

I just realized I never put down my opinion of the movie here. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Soooo, anyway...

Since I'm coming in so late I'll keep it shorter than I normally would. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif But simply put, I'll just say this was easily the best live action Batman film yet, and definitely up there as one of my favorite superhero movies.

The portrayal of the title character (Christian Bale was Bruce Wayne), Ra's Al Ghul as the villain, the sense of realism, the look of Gotham.... it seemed like all the details were perfect. Honestly, this was the sort of Batman movie I've always wanted to see happen since I was a kid reading the Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams Bat-comics.

[Kalki]

The hell, we want a 20-page Dr. Dude review like Beelze said, not some damn summary! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I really liked Bale's Batman-gravel voice. And I've always imagined Bruce to be a rich and suave playboy but "bratty" was a way I never expected it to be played. I can't say this enough. The scene when he's sending off party guests is awesome! And the newspaper article on that was great too!

I understood the reason why the initial fight scenes were blurs of him fighting because that's the way he's meant to be seen. But the ninja and Ghul fight scenes should have been elaborate martial arts pieces imo. They could have kept it realistic like they wanted and avoid the fantastical without it concluding too fast.

Now, when's the dvd coming out? Any word on that?

[Dr.Dude]

Heh, I could definitely go on for 20 pages about this movie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But hey, I'll get around to writing that real review at least by the time the DVD arrives. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

And yeah, the DVD is currently slated to come out October 24th.

[Beelze]

Does anyone know if there are any special DVD plans? My Spider-Man 2 Collector's Gift Set wouldn't mind to be accompanied by something equally massive.

[Beelze]

Logic Bomb said:
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The radiowave device had a good thing going for it until they turned it on and it didn't kill anyone. Yup, evaporates water at speeds i don't even think are possible but go ahead and stand near it, it's cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif</td></tr></table>


What good is a weapon that you can't aim at a specific target? We don't know the specifics as to how it was designed, but of course we're supposed to assume that it only affects a targeted area.

At least it was better than Doc Ock's fusion machine, IMO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I'd be more concerned about how the hallucinogens could work so perfectly (completely redesigning the appearance of individual beings, rather than just making you very anxious and afraid of anything and everything). That's about the only thing I needed to put on my 'suspension of disbelief' for.

[Mongorian]

Dr.Dude said:
Simply put, I'll just say this was easily the best live action Batman film yet, and definitely up there as one of my favorite superhero movies.

The portrayal of the title character (Christian Bale was Bruce Wayne), Ra's Al Ghul as the villain, the sense of realism, the look of Gotham.... it seemed like all the details were perfect. Honestly, this was the sort of Batman movie I've always wanted to see happen since I was a kid reading the Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams Bat-comics.



These are my exact feelings.

[Nacho]

Beelze said:
I'd be more concerned about how the hallucinogens could work so perfectly (completely redesigning the appearance of individual beings, rather than just making you very anxious and afraid of anything and everything). That's about the only thing I needed to put on my 'suspension of disbelief' for.



Shrooms in gas form.

[FullMetalJacket]

DVD's coming 10/18 along with the Batman Anthology (spec ed versions of the first 4 films).