Civil Unrest TC topic

[Rico]

as some of you may already know I started a project a while ago. We have been hard at work with this TC and the dev team consists of a lot of talented people with whom I enjoy working with a lot.

Anyways I promised I would put up screenshots next time I posted about it and I am keeping that promise. Also you will probably notice we gave the TC a name... We will leave most of the other details undisclosed until we feel we should release them. This is a big project, I think the community will enjoy the end result a lot.

Enough words, here's the screenshot I promised you.

http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/webui.jpg


HUD created by code_warrior. It's still a WIP so expect the final version to be even cooler :P

[KillerSWAT]

awso....no.... swe... no. damn. there just seems no words to discribe this.cant wait. looks... well, there are no words to discribe it. anyway, what do u mean by, "coming soon"? how soon is coming soon?

[Rico]

As soon as we finish it?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[KillerSWAT]

lol, cool cool. cant wait! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Canada_Dry]

looks real good, i like the "boom Stick" too haha

[wiggleworm]

I kinda like that too. Reminds me of evil dead. I know you said no details, but what's the basic storyline gonna be?

[Rico]

Hehe I'm afraid it won't be basic at all. As I said I don't want to reveal much but I'm sure horror fans will appreciate it.

[wiggleworm]

Horror eh?...Nice. Will the guy have an evil hand that he eventually replaces with a chainsaw? hehe only kidding. Sounds cool.

[biXen]

Horror, suspense, thrill, action I guess. Resident Evil on speed when there's action and Silent Hill atmosphere when it's not or something?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif We are trying to create some pleasure with a sweet mix of pissing your pants.

[wiggleworm]

I don't know if it's just me but I wouldn't call pissing yourself 'sweet'! Anyways I know what you mean and I will definately be downloading this when it comes out.


P.S Is that the right spelling of definately?

[Cronos]

"Definately" is 'finite. Definitely.

[wiggleworm]

Thanks, just not sure how it was spelt. And to be on topic yeah go this mod!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Co&Co]

sounds really promising!! would like to see (hear) some more about this mod http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif What members does your team consits of??

looking forward to it

[Rico]

Our team is pretty big and I think it's got some of the best talent in the community.

Here's the roster so far:

- Me
- Aztec
- code_warrior
- biXen
- Ghast
- Noodlez
- Presto
- Uisor
- TJM
- DefleX
- Joonas
- madhatter

[Froz]

Really cool looking HUD you got there. Can't really say anything else yet but sounds like fun.

[hypokinetic]

when i read that list i literally said "holy shit" out loud.

i'll be looking forward to this mod!

[ADM]

Rico: Don't forget:

"Plus ambience track by the legendary ADM" :P

[MentalSentinel]

Impressive team list...
Hud looks nice too.

[Rico]

Heh yeah I haven't forgotten about it. I'll make sure we put it someplace in the mod where it fits best. Thanks for the contribution http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Joonas]

when i read that list i literally said "holy shit" out loud.



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Ivan]

Nice screenshot, but I want more, Now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Can't we even see a little nice dead body? /drooling

[Sayantan]

@ Bixen :

Bixen ?? ...............working in a team ?????...... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif..............gr8 news for the community at last http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

@ Rico :

Hey man, how much did u pay bixen for...........LOL
(no offence to anybody though.....just joking...):)

[MasterTom]

when i read that list i literally said "holy shit" out loud.



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif


same here, dude...

OMG!! this mod is maid by the dreamteam of the MP2-modding-community...

[Ivan]

when i read that list i literally said "holy shit" out loud.



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



First time I read the list, I missed you name, Joonas. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[axelstone]

nice to see a team that really has some great talent.. hows things progressing?

[Rico]

Pretty fast, working on some new features coding-wise (as always) and the whole team is working diligently.

[code_warrior01]

:: Looks up from eating chine’s food and slaving over Civil Unrest. ::

Rico we gotta come up with some kinda super lame slogan like daktana like... "We gunna pwn you bizatch!" or or... "Rico gunna eat up your undies, and then... BLOW YOU AWAY!!" and then over hype are hotness. Make up some mock 3dMax shots and tell everyone they are in game. Oh BTW decidede I would leak a screenshot of are mod here:

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v132/russsmith/Doom3_17.jpg


The Model me and aztec worked up, it was my idea... ghast was working on the level but I pushed him aside and was just like "Bizchatas! OK lets do this! Get Krunkin OKKK!" and whipped that shivizl out. The storyline is as is:

PS- I wrote it

Civil Unrest will shed the mission structure of its illustrious predecessors, instead opting for Half-Life style mini-loads between areas. This should help keep the tension high and ensure the minimum of relaxation for the player. It has been confirmed that many of the weapons from the previous games will make it into the release, including the all important BFG, although other favorites like the chainsaw have yet to be implemented. Some information has also been released about environment interaction within the game. Id have given some details as to how the player interacts with in-game computer consoles - upon approach, the player automatically holsters his weapon, and the mouse cursor appears. The console can then be operated in the same way as any html browser, and character movement away from the console immediately equips the last weapon used, should the player be ambushed. Few other details of environment interaction have been revealed, but it's very reassuring to hear of this well designed system, and it augers well for other interactive elements.

An Id game would not be an Id game without multiplayer, and so it came as a great surprise to many when Carmack announced that Doom 3 would be a single-player experience only. This, however, has been altered. Civil Unrest will now ship with limited multiplayer capabilities for 2-4 players, with deathmatch and last man standing confirmed. It has also been rumored that Id will augment the games multiplayer capabilities in an expansion.

The release of Civil Unrest will likely be another seminal moment in the history of gaming, and the little company from Texas will once again be making its presence felt all across the industry. A major Id release constitutes a technological boundary point - everything before is old and limited, everything after advanced and full of promise. And part of the excitement of a new Id release is not only seeing what they can achieve themselves, formidable as they are. Thanks to Carmack's single-minded dedication, we can also look forward to the efforts of a plethora of professional developers on the engine, and the growing sophistication of the Mod community will no doubt mean some incredible efforts from them. The shadows of Civil Unrest should ensure that the future remains bright.


Also we are going with my concept for the player, the image of the future in gaming can be seen Here:



http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v132/russsmith/consept3.jpg

Also Rico has steped down from head of the team and is as of now cleaning my shoes....while I type... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Canada_Dry]

wow

[KillerSWAT]

lol. thinkin the same thing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Canada_Dry]

i don't get it...you talk about doom 3?wtf...EXPLAIN

[KillerSWAT]

lol. i like the concept for the player screenie, lol. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nelson.gif

[code_warrior01]

thats in game also

[Canada_Dry]

what was the point in your last post? to talk bout doom 3..and did rico really quit?!?! i liked him

[ADM]

#1 - That's Doom 3 so all those who are saying WOW, you're idiots.
#2 - Next time either link to that big screenshot or down size it.. it stretches out the forum.
#3 - Learn to be funny.

[Rico]

Arg my precious thread... what has happened to it? Begone foul demons... it is not time to reveal anything yet. Shoo! shoo! Nothing to see here. Nothing... Nothing.

I might post something truly mod related sometime before the end of the month. It's all still in progress.

[biXen]

#1 - That's Doom 3 so all those who are saying WOW, you're idiots.



Mostly because Doom 3 looks like a pre-rendered cutscene from 1996 though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

All these coders think about is making stuff shine, even mud shines in Doom. Chromed mud... that's _gotta_ suck http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[wiggleworm]

Rico! They've stolen your thread! We must beat them back with large sticks and try to maintain sanity while stopping talking about Doom III. GAAAAAAAAH!!!

[wiggleworm]

You have a tumour in your brain, it's making you mad. We are forced to operate...aggresively!

[ADM]

HAHA! You have to love level designers who make very old rusted objects look really shiny, to show off their graphics engine :P

[code_warrior01]

Sadly no one thought code_warriors joke was funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif and sadly he is not able to edit the post http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Sorry if anyone got bent out of shape.

Ghast and aztec both do great work and Rico is still leading the project for all those that.....some how got fooled by my Post. All I did was copy paste a snippet about doom 3 and replace every where it said doom 3 with "Civil unrest."

Ive been caughted... what ever

:: goes back to eating cold old chine's food ::

[Ivan]

You should be punished for this Late April Fool Joke. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Rico]

Ok people I have some requests from the community.

I have opened up certain positions for the TC, if you feel like you could help with any of these I'd be happy to discuss it with you. We need the following people:

- A reliable modeler or animator (or both)

- A good voice actor to play the role of the main character. (more info about him after you contact me)

- Voice actors for NPC's. (info on contact)

- Mappers are of course always welcomed with open arms.

- A sound effects specialist who can produce a variety of sounds with some decent equipment. Or simply anyone good at making sound effects and creepy noises.

That's all folks, I really need some people to fill these positions so if you think you qualify for any of them please contact me by PM or email. If deemed good enough you will be given a position on the team.

[Canada_Dry]

#1 - That's Doom 3 so all those who are saying WOW, you're idiots.
#2 - Next time either link to that big screenshot or down size it.. it stretches out the forum.
#3 - Learn to be funny.

no, i was saying WOW because he made that so called "joke"

[Rico]

Still looking for some able bodies. PM me for more info.

[ADM]

I posted it up on Deep Six, hopefully you get some requests there.

Although PM me the voice acting details and I'll see if I can do any of them http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[wiggleworm]

I'm getting my mic today, so some voices should be on their way today or tomorrow. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Uisor]

Smith & Wesson 99 for Civil Unrest

http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/sw99.jpg

[Canada_Dry]

thats really high detailed...whats the plycount? looks good thouugh

[Uisor]

I'm not exatly sure of it but it's little under 1000.

[MrUniq]

are they new or a replacement

[wiggleworm]

wow! Is that the gun model? I thought it was just a picture of the gun in real life!

[Jehoven]

It looks good enough to eat, mate http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Very nice.

[AntiMatter]

Thats a beautiful gun model Uisor...stunning....however, is it just me or should the grip be longer...or did you model the gun on a Compact version or something...if so, then thats fine, but if its meant to be a full size SW99, the grip should be longer http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, its a damn good model.

[Uisor]

Thats a beautiful gun model Uisor...stunning....however, is it just me or should the grip be longer...or did you model the gun on a Compact version or something...if so, then thats fine, but if its meant to be a full size SW99, the grip should be longer http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, its a damn good model.



not sure, there seems to be many versions of SW99 with different lookins slides and grips + different accesories like tactical flash or laser, but the version I used as refence has that kind of grip, unless reference photo was deformed.


are they new or a replacement



are what replacement or new?

[Kozak]

of the berreta or deserteagle or are they going to be one of the new weapons.

[Uisor]

well that depends on Rico, but I guess it will be replacement of beretta.

[Canada_Dry]

Smith & Wesson 99 for Civil Unrest

http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/sw99.jpg

haha, i wish i had one like that for my 007 mod

[AntiMatter]

The grip is definately a touch short for the full SW99...like, it should have one more finger indentation longer....but i guess it doesnt affect it too much, and the rest of the model is so well done.

[Uisor]

this is the reference photo:

http://www.davidsguns.com/Smith%20&%20Wesson/SW99.jpg

[Kozak]

I think it looks better with a short grip especially the last grip of the gun.

[KillerSWAT]

great job uisor! it looks great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif yes, ppl, the thing with the grip is that the actual handle has 2 places for fingers, and the clip has a place for the last finger(pinky finger), unless everyone already knew that, and now i just look like a fool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[The McG]

Jeez, that model looks photo-realistic. I must've been comparing it to the reference photo for like 3 minutes. That's a good model!

[AntiMatter]

Yeah Uisor, thats the compact version, so its ok then, you've modelled it perfectly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Once again, good work.

[Heathy]

:: . Civil Unrest will now ship with limited multiplayer capabilities for 2-4 players, with deathmatch and last man standing confirmed



is this true my thread on max payne hq was locked for asking if this concept was possible


if even small multiplayer capabilitys are implemented ill never play on steam ever again :P .... seriously

sorry if im confused but he also said doom3 was this a bad post :S:S:S:S:S

[KillerSWAT]

yes, all that was just a joke http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif it was funny at the time, but now it just confuses people like you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

jk http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Heathy]

lol yer i guess ..... damn shame tho i'd love a multi-p mod for this ..... 'shy' http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif maybe one day

[EnigmaZ]

Smith & Wesson 99 for Civil Unrest

http://www.maxpayneheadquarters.com/forums/files/sw99.jpg


omg thats so sweet http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif, could i bother you for a wireframe render, just to see how it looks, cause when i model stuff it has all ugly polys everywhere http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Heathy]

were can i get a model making prog like the one used to make that gorgeous s&w ?

if its called milkshape i got it :P

but i'd still love to know

[Murphysk8]

lol! chine's?? u mean chinese? haha! j/k Anyway, the mod looks quite professional and the team EVEN MORE SO!!!! Good job and good luck......

*Goes back to slaving over Suicidal Solutions skins* j/k

[Akari]

Any updates? And, personally, I think maybe the name should be something like

Residental Evil http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[code_warrior01]

Whats New?

Lots of blood and scary stuff. New ideas and things in no other mod ive seen yet in Max Payne 2. Me bitching and moaning as always... that isn't that new.

Im contemplating posting a tutorial on the interface work ive been doing so the rest of the community can play around with it... ::shrug ::

Anything more Rico has asked us to shut are collective mouth about. But im sure you guys are going to be impressed.

[Rico]

I guess the secret's out eh? You guys may or may have not heard about some of the features we'll be implementing into Civil Unrest (most already are) so here's a brief summary without many details on what's public so far:

- The mod will be released by chapters (meaning you'll have something to look forward to after the first release). We will add new features as the chapters progress and maybe even new characters. It will be like playing a new mod every release with different features and a consistent plotline set in the same universe.

- Yes it's out. I have worked out how to add dismemberment into the MP2 engine and it will be included and fully supported as soon as it's perfect (most likely first release as most of the work is tried and tested).

- Gibbing will also be present, many of you have seen the earlier videos of my system. I will be using something very much like it.

- Various and original weapons with different gameplay purposes. One of the simpler additions to gameplay will come from the "boomstick" which allows you to knock down enemies if they are close enough. Gone are the days when you would chuck out your shotgun when you got a big bad assault rifle, now the shotgun is actually effective and I'm sure all of you will have a blast using it. Of course, the effect diminishes with range so don't expect to be able to knock someone down if you shoot them from 1 km away.

- Enhanced UI by code_warrior. You have seen only our earliest hud work... Screenshots will be shown when deemed viable.

- Moody maps created by some of the best mappers in the community: We'll post some screenshots when we think the time is right.

- Original plot with an interesting universe to explore.

Of course, we will also have all new models and skins, as well as animations for these new models. When this is released you won't be able to recognize a single thing from MP2.

Feel free to post any comments, questions or suggestions. Feedback is appreciated.

[theHunted]

even though i'm not really into the whole dismemberment and gore thing. i wonder if it will be anything hit-specific or just randomly chopped off heads and arms.

features sound good of course. now it's your turns to prove them with some ingame footage http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (cheap trick, i know)

[eLto]

could someone PLEASE for once explain me what the hell "gibbing" is??? I've heard it alot, but never quite known what it is...

[torso boy]

- Yes it's out. I have worked out how to add dismemberment into the MP2 engine and it will be included and fully supported as soon as it's perfect (most likely first release as most of the work is tried and tested).



now the only question is do the dismembered parts ragdoll?
huh? huh? (i doubt it)

[Rico]

Dismemberment is hit-specific.

[Uisor]

sure

[Kozak]

It sounds pretty cool, can you give any release dat or is it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wid.gif? Also I have given some thought about dismemberment I have seen it's alot harder to make than in MP1 so kudos for that. Especially the hitspecific thing. I would love to see it in action http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

[Joonas]

You will, you will...

[Kozak]

BTW Rico is this dismemberment for zombies only or for normal people aswell?
I thought you could make an character with textures of differen types, like 'zone 1', 'zone 2' etc. And attach skinitems of limbs to that. Now when you animate the character it will seem like it's a normal skeleton.
Now when you hit that character on a certain texture zone, like his rightarm, you detect the specific hit with a decal or particle. And in the properties of the decal you detach the skinitem and drop it like a levelitem or projectile.
It's just a wild guess, but I hope you could confirm it..it's actually one of the most challenging things I could think of so far for mp2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif nice thinkin.

[Rico]

Dismemberment will be present in many enemies. Different enemies will dismember differently, for some heads will come off, others will lose bit and pieces of their body, etc. Each enemy can have up to 2 or 3 different parts that are dismemberable in their bodies. So for example you may have an enemy that can have his head taken off, his right arm, and his leg.

I'm still not sure if I want it so you can dismember ALL of those parts on a single death but we'll see.

[Kozak]

Hmm k, so it's not like there are zombies that go walking around even when you have their head choped off? That would be really cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Or can you only dismember them when they are lying on the ground?

[ViolentGames]

rico, in another thread i saw that you said that you will be releasing the code for the dismemberment effects to certain people before civil unrest is released. by any chance am i one of those people? i thought you had said that you will be helping me with this effect for my Samurai X TC. i hope that's what you meant.

later

[Rico]

Yes, it was possible for me to have enemies walking around with missing limbs, however I'm not sure if I want to use that as of yet.

[Kozak]

But you do it in another way than I proposed?

[Canada_Dry]

could someone PLEASE for once explain me what the hell "gibbing" is??? I've heard it alot, but never quite known what it is...

gibbing is when a person completely blows up with blood and chunks everywhere. very cool for zombie mods

[Rico]

Gibbing:

Early video: http://www.levels4you.com/review.l4y?file=6383

Last video I released (changed a lot since then):

http://maxpayne.gamigo.de/files/mp2/fgab_exclusive_gibbing.zip

[eLto]

looks cool, but a little exxagerated. IMO. I mean, I've only seen gibbing in games, and never in real life or movies(not that I want to see it in real life). and it seems unlikely. however, it's a game.

[Rico]

As you can probably tell, we're not really struggling for realism here http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ADM]

looks cool, but a little exxagerated. IMO. I mean, I've only seen gibbing in games, and never in real life or movies(not that I want to see it in real life). and it seems unlikely. however, it's a game.



If you've never seen it in real life how do you know that it's exaggerated then hmm?

[talkred5000]

i think thats good thats very good well the word good cant describe it, in my eye you can never have to much blood

[Ghast]

and never in real life or movies(not that I want to see it in real life).



I see gibbing all the time in So Cal, its the result of careless vehicle meets stray animal on busy freeway

[Sheikah]

I love the arcs of blood, looks down-right beautiful!!
also, neat effect with some chunks flying WAY further away than others! Looks absolutely lovely http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I also like how the loose parts are havoc-inspired too, maybe you could add a smaller blood-decal for the smaller chunk, to stick og surfaces etc. you know? (like the ckunk, which bounces off the car- it could've left a small blood-splatter..

[Opa-Opa]

It looks really great! But I think it needs a little touch in the physics. I mean, the gibs could fly in the opposite direction of the grenade, so that it doesn't seems that the cleaner exploded from the inside.

But who am I to talk. I can't even add textures! The gibs are really cool and I can't wait to see it in action with some zombies around!

[BloodWolf806]

Looks like a pretty sweet mod.





Oh, and I've been browsing this forum for over a year, but This is my first post, Hi people! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Joonas]

Hi there, and welcome to the core of the inter-network. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[b_blakeney]

update pls!!!

[Uisor]

undead

[b_blakeney]

hey, what's the status on this mod? do you guys need a beta tester? let me know! voices? whatever you want, leo getz! :P

laters.


b http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[MrUniq]

hey rico can u post more hud screens..i'd like to see how u guys organized it.

[Rico]

Hehe hud has advanced a lot since that screenshot but I'll see what I can do. We're trying to keep a lid on releasing media until we have some awesome content in the 90% finished stage(expect videos).

On a sad note(for the mod team) Code_Warrior has left us in order to pursue his dreams as a game designer. He and I talked a lot about our hopes for the future and I'm glad he managed to make it happen. He is now part of a game development company who's making an FPS/MMO hybrid. He's part of their art team so I expect to hear some more info about what he's doing sometime in the near future.

/tips hat to CW

It's been great working with you Russ, I do hope you'll find some extra time here and there to contribute to CU once in a while, I wish you the best of luck and I'm glad you were able to finally live your dream.

[MrUniq]

Its interesting how many people who participate in this community end up working for game companies...but then again i'm not a part of that many modding communities :P

[ADM]

Yeah we have got some great talent here.

[Rico]

ADM - I've managed to get online on 56k satellite but I can't open most webpages. No gamespy websites open and most fansites don't either. I'm afraid I won't be able to post news again until this weekend. (DSL is due back that day)

[Murphysk8]

I had that prob too. I just got it back today. Good luck on the mod.

[ADM]

I think Deep Six is offline anyway, well I can't seem to access it since all I get is the offline screen (Mambo logo with the words "Deep Six" in text), I don't know if it's just me but I've contacted Wabbit.

So yeah don't worry just try your best to get everything sorted on your end Rico.

[Uisor]

I think Deep Six is offline anyway, well I can't seem to access it since all I get is the offline screen (Mambo logo with the words "Deep Six" in text), I don't know if it's just me but I've contacted Wabbit.

So yeah don't worry just try your best to get everything sorted on your end Rico.



Not just you.

[Canada_Dry]

yea, same here

[Sayantan]

Yeah we have got some great talent here.



.........Especially what we call game artists. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Well.....I didn't mean that we dont have good programmers. They are way tricky here coz the coding restrictions are huge and all he is forced to do is find clever substitutes which is very difficult in comparison to other games http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Roland]

hey Rico,i just played the 6 shots mod which is really sweet, and i definetly think you should tweak the ragdoll physics in your mod, which by the way sounds kick ass. I really enjoyed how each person reacted so greatly to the bulltets, it was tons of fun shooting people 9 times in the chest with duel desert eagles and watching them fly backwards.

i also felt that the guns were not strong enough in max payne 2, like when you shoot a guy close range with a shot gun he just fell backwards. i dont' care if thats realistic or not, but its way more fun to send him flying 7 feet back like in rezzies mod.

so i hope you consider tweaking the power of the guns and/or the ragdoll physics in your mod unless you already have.

[Canada_Dry]

trust me...I'm 100% sure he has. And no I have no inside information on the mod, but it is a TC and even tweak mods do what your asking.

[Good ol' Scotty]

- Yes it's out. I have worked out how to add dismemberment into the MP2 engine and it will be included and fully supported as soon as it's perfect (most likely first release as most of the work is tried and tested).



now the only question is do the dismembered parts ragdoll?
huh? huh? (i doubt it)



Well rico, are they?

[MentalSentinel]

It isn't called Ragdoll if it isn't a character with havok enabled.
The dismembered body parts will probably have havok, because it's extrememly easy to put it on the parts.

[Rico]

We'll see if the parts "ragdoll" on drop. I doubt we'll implement it seeing as we would have to build a new skeleton for each individual part. I'll talk to Aztec about the possibility.

Body parts are affected by havok physics, just like any other projectile would.

[Good ol' Scotty]

I've not heard from you and your mod in ages could you start updating again. pleeease http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Rico]

Hmm, well, work is going slow right now... everyone on the team is working on different projects and I'm basically just letting them go on with them until they are done and feel like they want to come back. Pretty much at a standstill but that doesn't mean the mod is dead, it just means we're working on other stuff at the moment.

Believe me when I say this: This mod will have some sort of fruition. Whether it's a full-blown TC release or a small beta release is of no matter, just be happy to know that I personally won't stop working on this until I have some sort of finished product you can all enjoy.

That being said, I fired up ye good ol' early-early development alpha build I had from when I last worked on it and recorded some videos of dismemberment in action... Does anyone want to see them?

I'll probably need hosting for them, rather small videoclips just showing the basics of it really, one of them is 1MB in size, the other is around 3.5 MB.

If this proves to be popular I'll release an extra video showing the latest gibbing effect http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[b_blakeney]

That being said, I fired up ye good ol' early-early development alpha build I had from when I last worked on it and recorded some videos of dismemberment in action... Does anyone want to see them?





Do you really have to ask??? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

--b

[Rico]

Hmm well that was fairly quick to get hosted, many thanks to ADM for the help on that.

A few things you should know beforehand though:

1) This is an early early alpha, stuff will look unfinished and weird because it is, as simple as that, nothing you see on the video is 100% finished.

2) The models are all placeholder "dummy" models made to test out changes, those are made by Aztec for testing.

3) The map is made by Uisor and it's not finished at all either, for one, lighting hasn't been applied to it. There are many other things incomplete to don't pay much attention to it just yet.

PFX made by Joonas.

EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE!!

I didn't want to release unfinished stuff to the public but I thought this wouldn't do much harm, plus, it would help fans know that the mod isn't dead and show them something they haven't seen before in MP2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Enjoy:

http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/maxpayne/movies/dismember1.zip
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/maxpayne/movies/dismember2.zip

[Uisor]

On another note, we could use more mappers to work whit us. I think Rico told when we started that all mappers are welcome, so you don't need 3 years of experience to join the team.

[MentalSentinel]

Looks nice man! Keep up the good work, the first vid is down though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif.
Oh and btw, are you gonna make it FPS? Since this amazing hud doesn't really fit a TPS imo.
Cheers

[biXen]

Gameplay mappers would be very welcome.

[Rico]

Yeah I just noticed the first link isn't working now, it's weird though, I tried it yesterday right after making the post and the file downloaded fine.

Any info on that ADM?

[Uisor]

It worked fine when I tried it. That was after Sentinel's post.

[ADM]

Seems to be working fine for me.

Maybe it was just a glitch on the server, so give it a try now. If it still has problems it's probably loading from your cache, so try clearing your cache before trying to download.

[daromar]

can't read them, is there a special program require?

[Rico]

Hmm you may need the latest Divx codec to watch them. I used Divx 5.1.1 compression on them, check out www.divx.com (http://www.divx.com)

Sorry about not mentioning that http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Joonas]

1. Did you put that one on looping, Rico? That ground splatter looks... ... weird.
2. I can only seen the last a couple of seconds of each file. The rest is garbled. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

EDIT: Fixed that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[daromar]

Hmm you may need the latest Divx codec to watch them. I used Divx 5.1.1 compression on them, check out www.divx.com (http://www.divx.com)

Sorry about not mentioning that http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



thx

[Rico]

Hmm, don't quite recall if I did, I usually just copy other particle settings when adding new ones in. Hold on, let me check...

Nope, not set to looping, I just checked it out.

[Joonas]

... so is it a bug in the gibbing system when the those "blood spheres" start bursting on the ground?

[Rico]

Not really, that's just the blood trail settling into the ground. After the gibs are there a while they stop emanating it. Why?

[Rico]

Does anyone else have any comments or suggestions?

[torso boy]

well, i would rather more of a ragdoll death than the animation...just a little animation to start it. It seemed like they always died the same way. And the blood gibs were a little too dark and big, so they looked like potatoes

[Rico]

It does have ragdoll death, it's exactly how you described, an animation plays out for a bit then ragdoll takes over.

Bear in mind that those aren't even new animations, I had to reuse some MP2 anims cleverly.

As for the gibs, suggestion noted, I know, those aren't the final ones, they're actually being reused from the gibbing system. I don't have any head gibs yet.

I'll probably also be adding so that the chunks blow back as they should instead of just kind of falling to the ground.

[Rico]

Files and news about this are now on L4Y (www.levels4you.com) and MPZone (www.mpzone.de) as well as Deep Six (www.3dactionplanet.com/maxpayne)

L4Y Mirrors for the gamespy haters http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif :

http://www.levels4you.com/review.l4y?file=10611
http://www.levels4you.com/review.l4y?file=10612

[torso boy]

what I meant is the anim is too long...it seems like the characters dont ragdoll utill their head is a foot from the ground...maybe the fact that it was in slow motion made it look a little worse.

[Rico]

Somebody asked me what it is I did in modding, the best response I could give them was to bumb this thread so they could see it themselves.

And yeah torso_boy, it's a combination of slow-motion and the animation that makes it look always the same. The animation is just placeholder as the final hasn't been made yet, as well as the little chunks that come out of the explosion.

I'll probably work some more on the mod when I can actually animate myself... no 3dsmax 5.1 and no milkshape support means I can't animate http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Man oh man... I wish they'd hurry adding support for MP2 in milkshape so I can finally animate.

[Rico]

Just thought I'd update the thread to say that both ADW and CU have merged together.

Here's a more detailed explanation from MP2dev:


Thats right, no I'm not joking...Civil Unrest (created by Rico) and A Different World (created by theki11erwithin), the 2 zombie mods of mp2 have merged and is currently under development.

I know some of you have to either be thinking "woW this is great" or maybe a select few of you think "eh, I don't think its such a good idea". Well I (being the "other" modder for ADW) can tell you that you should expect nothing less of the mods, only more.

The Decision was made a few days ago while me and Rico were discussing both mods, and the features in each. I then forwarded Rico's request to theki11erwithin and now we are fully merged, and ironing out the details.

All I can tell you at the moment is that we are keeping the name Civil Unrest, and we are keeping Civil Unrest's story. I have no clue on a release date, but when it does release...you will most indefinitely know it.

[Canada_Dry]

Its not MP2Dev, its both MP1 and 2, therefore we called it MPDev http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif yaY i've been quoted http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Loanarn]

I really hope that you and your team can make my bulletime, hit specific limb removal, gibbing, undead killing fantasy's come true.

The only thing that could make it any better in my mind would be an ash skin, a chainsaw and a decapitating "12 gauge double barrel remmington, with a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel and a hair triger."

Rember shop smart, shop SMart.

[Canada_Dry]

Rember shop smart, shop SMart.



just to clarify, evil dead 1 is the best...better than AOD http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[wiggleworm]

Don't make me cry Rico, I want this mod to come out! Tell me it's not dead and say that you're working on new animations now that milkshape support has been added. Someone? Anyone?

[Rico]

I've been working on animations ever since I got 3dsmax. Mod's not dead, I don't simply abandon projects. It will come out. We're highly secretive of our work in this project.

[GrimReaper_D]

hey were are all the screenshots?

[thekillerwithin]

GrimReaper_D said:
hey were are all the screenshots?




Rico said:
We're highly secretive of our work in this project.



If you're good, maybe you'll get one soon.

[GrimReaper_D]

i mean i cant see any pictures that have been already posted

[Rico]

Hmmm, I wonder what just happened here?

http://img236.exs.cx/img236/6348/mystery7gw.th.jpg (http://img236.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img236&image=mystery7gw.jpg)

I can't imagine this shot would reveal much, I noticed all of our old shots went down right along with MPS so I decided to post this one to have *some* sort of media out there. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Loanarn]

I havent posted in this thread for nearly a year and its only 7 posts back...

Is this project still in the works? Id love to know whats going on.

[Rico]

It's been on hold for a while until I and some of our team finishes their other projects.

[Mark Lewis]

I played some early stuff Rico was doing with Civil Unrest, frankly I think it was much better than the Equillibram (I cant spell it dammit) mod. not that the E mod didnt knock my socks off, its just so much MORE could have been done with Civil Unrest.
I feel bad for Max Payne 2, I saw it for 7 dollars at Wal mart.

[Theonewayman]

No that is good, we will have many peaple bying the game, moding for it and playing this comunity mods.

[Ghast]

Walmart is probably dumping all its Rockstar games because of the GTA:SA nonsense.

Yeppers - a good scary MP2 TC is sorely needed.

[Violent-Games]

Rico hasn't released an Equilibrium mod. You must be thinking of that Rico Mod that he released a long time ago. The only reason that mod was kinda crappy was because the bones had not yet been released at that time. So Rico couldn't add any animations of his own. I'm sure he would have if he could have done so. Just wait for the Hall of Mirrors Equilibrium Mod. That's gonna be the shit. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rico's the man. If anybody has anything to say about that, prepare to die...

VG

[Mark Lewis]

Oh sorry I thought the Hall of Mirrors Equilibrium Mod was released. I've played just about every version that mod (and crashed Rico's PC dozens of times :-) )

From what I understand its done, Rico is just waiting for his team members to send him some stuff and I think he wanted to add in some Easter Eggs.

Frankly I'm pissed I didnt get a credit in the mod. I tested lots of stuff, gave ideas, and drove David to many a fast food joint for late night gaming.

But yes Rico is the man

[Violent-Games]

How big is that Hall of Mirrors mod going to be anyways?

VG

[Mister_Anderson]

Bigger than a breadbox.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

On topic: Looking forward to seeing Civil Unrest finished myself...

[Cypress]

Does it really will be released after HOM?
Or are you guys going to cancel it and move to another engine?

Cause if, this could be a great addon for my zombie survival shooting mod, since it already contains some of those who started a zombie mod but never finished it.

[daromar]

...eee..any news from that mod? I was kinda looking forward to it