Vivisector: Beast Inside - new 3D shooter.

[Forrest Gump]

Official site (http://vivisector.com/english/main.htm).
Newest screenshots (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivisector_beast_inside.html).
IMHO this game looks AMAZING !!!
But I'm still not sure about the gameplay (http://vivisector.com/visuals/3shot0001.jpg) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
It's TOO gory http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

What do you think ?

P.S. Game is still in development http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Soilwork]

Meh, mediocre at best.

[Forrest Gump]

Meh, mediocre at best.


I think this (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivi-54.html) is better than "mediocre".
Far better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[RollingBrass]

Seems like a cross between Far Cry and Soldier of Fortune.

[John]

Seems like a cross between Far Cry and Soldier of Fortune.



And doom 3...

*shrugs* Im getting tired of these type of shooters.

Besides shooting at things, theres nothing else to do in the atmosphere.

[CyTex]

Seems like a cross between Far Cry and Soldier of Fortune.



And doom 3...

*shrugs* Im getting tired of these type of shooters.

Besides shooting at things, theres nothing else to do in the atmosphere.



Ditto.

[Wamplet]

Looks kinda weird. I actually thought everything except the models were somewhat decent.

[X-Vector]

*shrugs* Im getting tired of these type of shooters.

Besides shooting at things, theres nothing else to do in the atmosphere.



My feeling exactly.

Today's technology allows developers to create potentially interesting (scifi) environments such as this (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivi-56.html) and this (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivi-50.html) and we still end up with standard shooter fare.

Creating ever more detailed gameworlds is commendable, but gameplay will simply have to evolve along with that if any significant progress is to be made.
For one thing, reliance on uber-violence will have to go.
I don't know if I even want to imagine playing a game like SoF with the supposed photorealistic graphics of the next decade or so.

[Simon Charles]

Looks like gore for the sake of gore.

[Damien_Azreal]

I have to agree with Wamp, the enviroments look really nice... but the characters are kindof blocky. Usualy I go for real violent stuff...

But this game just seem to appeal to me, this isn't like gibs or anything. It just seems like they are trying to cover up their own shortcomings with a shitload of blood. Kindof sad... but who knows. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

But, yep... I would say about average for nowadays.

[Komb.at]

I REALLY dig how they did the fur on player models and/or enemies. I've never seen fur as realistic as this..

[Forrest Gump]

I've never seen fur as realistic as this..


I have (http://ag.ru/?gallery?11870?83023) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Hudson]

This looks awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Forrest Gump]

This looks awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


What do you mean: "Vivisector" or "Black & White 2" ?

[Hudson]

Vivisector.

I hated the original Black & White and the sequel looks like more of the same.

[Mister_Lynyrd]

Agreed, Hudson. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Wamplet]

I REALLY dig how they did the fur on player models and/or enemies. I've never seen fur as realistic as this..



Obviously, you haven't played Leisure Suit Larry 20. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[0marTheZealot]

meh

[Drewb99]

Vivisector.

I hated the original Black & White and the sequel looks like more of the same.



[nods in agreement]

And I still think this (http://gamezoom.ru/zoom/vampirethemasqueradebloodlines/images/shot2big.jpg) is the best fur in any game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[DudeMiester]

They need to have that d00d in DNF, lol!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[motionblur]

Vivisektor isn't *that* new. It's in development for some years now - and AFAIR we even had one or two threads about it, already.

Hm - it looks neat (not great though) but I have to agree that all the same egoshooter stuff is getting a little annoying. It's really like they have the technology to create very cool graphics but can't make any innovations in gameplay. Most of all recent games are indeed becoming pretty boring.
I don't mind a straight shooter like SeriousSam now and then but all the time? Nah. Maybe I'll pick it up as soon as it's cheaper.

BTW: Anyone here remember "Normality"? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Van Hamies]

Woah, killer dogs!
I bet they will kill the player 'doggy style' http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Marty]

looks like it has the ability to blow away chunks like in this (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivi-62.html) picture. However, without the use of shadow, the chunk taken from the groin actually looks like a gib sitting on top.

the fur effect kind of reminded me of this guy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://www.echonews.com/750/images/monsters_inc_sully.jpg

i havent played it yet so who knows how good it really is?

[Paroxysm]

BTW: Anyone here remember "Normality"? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Awesome adventure game with voodoo doll interface..... but I don't get the relevance?

[motionblur]

BTW: Anyone here remember "Normality"? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Awesome adventure game with voodoo doll interface..... but I don't get the relevance?


... we were talking about making more innovative games with today's graphic capabilities than ego shooters. Normality came to my mind, immediately.
Hmmmm .... Normality2. Would be cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Forrest Gump]

i havent played it yet so who knows how good it really is?


As I said, game is still in develeopment http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Forrest Gump]

E3 2003 Video (http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/vivisector/vivisector_trailer.exe.html)
E3 2004 Video (http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/vivisector/vivisector_ingame.exe.html)

[mysteryperfecta]

Creating ever more detailed gameworlds is commendable, but gameplay will simply have to evolve along with that if any significant progress is to be made.



I don't think it will happen in the FPS genre. For one, some people don't want it to evolve. Secondly, any FPS that deviates from standard FPS characteristics, people want to call something else (Deus Ex, for instance). Any game that evolves gameplay will be assigned to a different genre, or it's own genre (say, Action RPG).


For one thing, reliance on uber-violence will have to go.
I don't know if I even want to imagine playing a game like SoF with the supposed photorealistic graphics of the next decade or so.



I agree. There will be a point when graphics realism becomes too close for comfort. I'm guessing that Rockstar will create an interactive snuff film, and gamers like us will begin signaling for the check. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[RollingBrass]

I agree. There will be a point when graphics realism becomes too close for comfort. I'm guessing that Rockstar will create an interactive snuff film, and gamers like us will begin signaling for the check. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


http://www.rockstargames.com/manhunt/

[Gatinater]

This isn't news, but it looks kind of cool.

[shiranui]

The R.S.P.C.A. will love this...

[FireFly]

Creating ever more detailed gameworlds is commendable, but gameplay will simply have to evolve along with that if any significant progress is to be made.


I don't think it will happen in the FPS genre. For one, some people don't want it to evolve. Secondly, any FPS that deviates from standard FPS characteristics, people want to call something else (Deus Ex, for instance). Any game that evolves gameplay will be assigned to a different genre, or it's own genre (say, Action RPG).


I think there's plenty of room for gameplay to evolve within the confines of the fps genre. Firstly, I think more variation in gameplay could be introduced with the gamer having to fight against a large variety of enemies that require radically different tactics.

Secondly, and more significantly, tactical play itself could be required. The gamer might have specific objectives that have to be accomplished while under enemy fire, maybe having to hold a position until reinforcements arrive or support the advance of his teamates, perhaps as a sniper. This is just a natural extension of the sort of gameplay favoured by Far Cry or Halo. But think these sorts of challenges would work best when integrated directly into the story. For example, the Klieners lab scene where the resistance's hideout is discovered and the player has to support his 'friends' retreat.

Then there's the inclusion of new novel 'weapons' which go along the side the player's now standardised arsenal. In HL2 Valve are introducing the manipulator to do this, encouraging the gamer to constantly think of lethal uses for the games physics system. With throwing a barrel becoming just as instinctive and fun as throwing a grenade.

Doom 3 is adding the flashlight, enabling the gamer to explore the pitch blackness, but forcing him to switch to another weapon when enemies come jumping out from nowhere. This means he is constantly making risk assessments over whether to benefit from the increased visibility the flashlight can provide, or to forge through the darkness fully armed.

[Forrest Gump]

WTF (http://vivisector.com/ru/?do=pics&act=show&id=23) ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
It's TOO gory !!!

[Wamplet]

They could have done a better job of that model. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[crunchy superman]

Agreed- that looks a bit weak.

[Needle]

That's more silly than gory. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

[Decker]

The title of this game had me baffled...and somewhat disgusted. So I just Googled it up. Turns out I just had the word vivisection mixed up with the word vasectomy in my head.

All is well again, please continue!

[Rider]

"Uses Google image search on 'vasectomy'"

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif OMG!!!

Don't try that at home folks!

[Specialist]

Man, this game is weak.....Last week.

The gore isn't very impressive either. If you want to see the good red stuff, go play MGS3 and cut a enemy's throat with a knife. The chronicals of riddick also has some of the best blood I've seen. It splashes on the walls and streaks down, DN3d Style http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Makasin]

wow, this game reminds me of quake 2, in a bad way. It has similar sounds (all weak and fake) and similar graphics/animations. There isnt much new here except you can blow peoples skin off, which isnt even realistic nor is it really that cool. Once people get bored of that, then it wont be any different than quake 2 or some shit.
just my 2 cents.
Its an interesting idea and all, but horrible execution.
I highly doubt it has a plot as well, but i cant access the links in the first post because they are down.

[Gatinater]

I don't remember how long that has been in develpment

[Lengis]

The links are dead.

[Forrest Gump]

Makasin said:i cant access the links in the first post because they are down.


Official site (http://vivisector.com/en/)

[Vexed]

Greeat I keep getting a run time error when I move the cursor over a button in the menu, making it impossible for me to browse the site properly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[IHerman]

1. Game doesn't look great at all.
2. The more gore, the better! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[KaiserSoze]

not impressed in the least.

frankly, i've seen mods much better than this.

looks to be a good budget title but that's about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[dudetheman19]

Looks like Unreal 1, just worse monsters http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Forrest Gump]

Latest UGLY screenshots were removed from official site (http://vivisector.com/en/) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
I hope it's a good sign http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I believe some older screens are MUCH better:
1 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/87210)
2 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/87197)
3 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/94051)
4 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/115137)
5 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/70448)
6 (http://www.ag.ru/gallery/13083/87201)
7 (http://gamemag.ru/?act=showpic&id=140936)

[Forrest Gump]

4 new screenshots:
1 (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&act=show&id=30)
2 (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&act=show&id=29)
3 (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&act=show&id=28)
4 (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&act=show&id=27)

Not bad. Looks like UT2004.

[Synti]

The character models still look hideous! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[Makasin]

its looking better, but still looks pretty ass-like.
Dont get me wrong, i dont only care about graphics, but when a game like this is in developement that seems to have no real story or new gameplay, then beauty is the next thing that can keep this thing from sinking, and looking at its dated-everything, the game doesnt seem like it will be any good at all. Well lets hope the devs surprise us.
anyone know when this is scheduled for release?

[Forrest Gump]

Makasin said:
anyone know when this is scheduled for release?


Early 2005.

[Joe Siegler]

If I'm not mistaken, this game came out of the cancelled "Duke Nukem: Endangered Species Hunter" title from awhile back. Although I don't believe it's current incarnation has much to do with the old stuff.

[Reaper]

That's interesting. Judging from the video I saw of this game, the gameplay has the opposite quality.

[Forrest Gump]

Some new screenshots (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&id=1).
Not bad.

[jameswalkden]

Forrest Gump said:

I've never seen fur as realistic as this..


I have (http://ag.ru/?gallery?11870?83023) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Dont forget Nvidia's WolfMan techdemo

http://www.siggraph.org/publications/video-review/sig2002/143/png/4.png

http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/news/2003/09/17/19bl.jpg

Btw the techdemo was designed to run on the "Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti series"

You can download the techdemo here: Wolfman techdemo (http://www.nvidia.com/object/demo_wolfman.html)

[Joe Siegler]

Reaper said:
That's interesting. Judging from the video I saw of this game, the gameplay has the opposite quality.



Well, that was in it's earliest days. Doesn't mean it was supposed to be like the DNES game was like. It obviously evolved.

As for fur, the best compute fur I've seen anywhere is Sully in Monsters, Incorporated.

[Enragiated]

Why was duke nukem: endagered species hunter cancelled? I remember reading about that in gamepro now!

[Forrest Gump]

Some NEW screenshots (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&id=1) and OLD trailer (from E3 2003) (http://www.vivisector-game.com/de/assets/trailer/vivisector_trailer1.avi)

[Forrest Gump]

Joe3DR said:
As for fur, the best compute fur I've seen anywhere is Sully in Monsters, Incorporated.



But it was not real-time http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

BTW current release date (http://www.backtogames.de/spiel2!Vivisector_Beast_Inside.html) is 24. 04. 2005

[Rider]

you're hyped on this game aren't you FG? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Forrest Gump]

Rider said:
you're hyped on this game aren't you FG? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


The true story is: I was shocked by the trailer two years ago and since that time I'm waiting for the game.
But the current look of the Vivisector disappoints me, to be honest http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Moreover, I'm curious what do you guys think about the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Enragiated]

Looks like another far cry, with bland visuals.

[AutoPilot]

Yuck.

I'll pass on this one.

-=AutoPilot=-

[Forrest Gump]

http://www.vivisector.com/en/
New screenshots added - enjoy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Plus - Vivisector official forum has been opened.

[TerminX]

This game will succeed if they take the guns away from the enemies and retitle it "Furry Hunt 2005."

[Forrest Gump]

Vivisector russian gone gold (http://vivisector.com/en/) !
New trailer (http://files.games.1c.ru/vivisector/files/movies/vivi_trailer2005.avi) looks VERY promising http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Yatta]

Forrest Gump said:

Newest screenshots (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivisector_beast_inside.html).



I get redirected to some dumb advertisement site...

[Forrest Gump]

Yatta said:

Forrest Gump said:

Newest screenshots (http://www.gengamers.com/html/vivisector_beast_inside.html).



I get redirected to some dumb advertisement site...


GenGamers no longer exists http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Screenshots are here (http://vivisector.com/en/?do=pics&id=1).

[Joe Siegler]

I should play the finished version, and see if there's anything left from the time when it used to be under development here. Probably not, I'd imagine.

[Hudson]

Man this game's development is borderline hysterical. The game has apparently been completed for a while now however they still haven't shipped it in the US..

[Hudson]

Joe3DR said:
I should play the finished version, and see if there's anything left from the time when it used to be under development here. Probably not, I'd imagine.



Wait, It was under development there? Can you give us any info about what direction it was originally going to take, the engine, etc? Or is that A51 material?

[Edit]: I am a moron.


Joe3DR said:
If I'm not mistaken, this game came out of the cancelled "Duke Nukem: Endangered Species Hunter" title from awhile back. Although I don't believe it's current incarnation has much to do with the old stuff.



Can you at least tell us about the "old stuff" ?

[SyntaxN]

The demo is here http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
http://www.bluesnews.com/

[dark_angel]

I notided it at worthplaying, downloading it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Someone pm Joe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Downloading now... it's a FPS with lots of gore. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I've got to try it.

[Damien_Azreal]

Okay... English voice acting with german text menus and subtitles? WTF.

Pick one language dammit. Also, why not just use a regular installer... the damn thing with the demo is a pain in the ass.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Looks like crap but I'll give it a shot.

[Nacho]

Models needs a lot of work. Same with the textures. The fur looks neat but you don't notice it untill there dead. Gibbing is neat but also looks to fake. All in all, deffinetly should be worked on some more.

[Gryph]

Well that was a waste of time. The guns sounded absolutely pitiful! It didn't feel solid at all.

[Forrest Gump]

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/vivisector/downloads/

[Damien_Azreal]

Forrest Gump said:
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/vivisector/downloads/



Ummm... yeah, that's what we've been talking about. The demo release. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

And to say the least, I was letdown a bit. Didn't have high hopes anyway but still... kindof meh. The main reasons...

...first off the German menus and setup options. If they're gonna have English voice acting, why not english menus?

Second, no reloading on the weapons. This game is being pushed as a serious shooter, with a good plot and lots of atmosphere and such.
But not having to reload a M16 is kindof off.

And third and last, the character models are very low poly. The fur covers it up nice on the animals (until you blow some meat off the bones) but the human guards look bad.

I haven't tried the alpha demo, not sure if I want to.

[Damien_Azreal]

Okay, I finished the demo and the indoor level was much more fun than the outdoor level.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9575/shot00166vi.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00166vi.jpg)

Fuzzy!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Denz]

Indoor this game is funnay.

[avatar_58]

Am I the only one who thinks the GUI/HUD of this game looks a little too close to the style used in Fallout? For some reason it just looks so similar....even the beat-up font is the same. If I had the game installed I would show you what I mean...

[Geir]

Am I the only one that can't get the game running due to a "buffer error"?

[IgWannA]

completed the demo earlier today. seems a pretty cool game but not really AAA in terms of polish. the actual level design and gameplay seems quite cool and involving with big background changes happening all the time to keep you hooked. but i have no idea why you people keep talking about the gore! honestly, it's far less gory than games like FEAR. i mean there's hardly any blood for one thing. the only difference is with some characters you can shoot their flesh off to reveal a skeleton underneath, but this isn't exactly GORY - it's comic! honestly, if i hear one more complaint about gore i'll rip your balls off!

[Damien_Azreal]

IgWannA said:
completed the demo earlier today. seems a pretty cool game but not really AAA in terms of polish. the actual level design and gameplay seems quite cool and involving with big background changes happening all the time to keep you hooked. but i have no idea why you people keep talking about the gore! honestly, it's far less gory than games like FEAR. i mean there's hardly any blood for one thing. the only difference is with some characters you can shoot their flesh off to reveal a skeleton underneath, but this isn't exactly GORY - it's comic! honestly, if i hear one more complaint about gore i'll rip your balls off!



I think people were complaining because of screens posted earlier, there were a few screens linked to earlier that all they seemed to show was the gore.

So for a while it seemed that was the only point.

But, after playing the demo the gore hardly comes into paly... like you said it's more comical than offensive.

The full game might be fun, but I'm not really hyped about it.

[Neptune]

hey, anything new on this game yet?

[Damien_Azreal]

It's been released in Russia for a long time. It was out before the demo was released... they just don't seem to want it out in the US for some reason.

[Neptune]

Oh. Hm. Do you know if they've released an english patch? Or, at the least, have released it in England.


...


Or I could just look on google.

[Damien_Azreal]

Don't have a clue.

I imported a copy of Vivisector from Russia, some family around there actualy. ;) But I sold it. It was way to irritating to try and set it up or even follow the story with it in russian and me native to english.