TEXTURE CONTEST

[William Gee]

OK
A new contest has started and im letting everyone know all all forums.

So what it is is....

I made a very basic map, and gave a texture pack with it.

People have to fill in the map given with anything they like using only the textures given in the pack.

The download and rulz are here.

http://www.geocities.com/wgrealms/contest.html

If you want to join post here to say so.
We have about 5 people in the compitition at the moment.

Oh and when your map is finished send it to me dont upload it cause I will release all maps together in 1 zip.

[Maartn]

I hope people will join, so we get at least more then 5 people http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


This is the list (for the ones who cares...):
Quakis - Will work probably later more on it.
MRCK - Working on the map
Maartn - Planning and working on the map.
Mrline - Planning and working on the map.
Dev - Will join later.
Blitz - Working on the map

[Mike359]

WILLIAM GEE!!

You can count me in!

I've also added you to my MSN

[Descent]

I'm in..

I'll try to catch up, have many projects!

[Mike359]

I might nit be able to fully participate for obvoisue *Cough* Getting another project done *Cough*

O and Descent how goes your episode. Im really Anxtious to see it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Descent]

Just finishing the second level.. It seems so small, but it uses almost the maximum sectors and stuff :S strange

It takes up about 1 / 20 of the grid! But it's still huge!

Starting with the fourth map today / tomorrow!
And yep, sorry for the time-taking, I will have sparetime soon so I'll be doing the maps faster!

[William Gee]

cool glad to see other people want to join http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
You can join or start anytime aslong as map is finished and sent to me a few days b4 christmas.

[DrFunkenstien]

Hey William

Sounds kool! think i'll give it a shot.

BTW: On ur site it says: "You are alowed to change the hight of areas." What about changing slopes of ceilings/floors?

[William Gee]

yes you can change slopes.
Glad that you joint http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MarkJ]

I would like to give this a try, but I have a few questions.

1 ] Can you divide up exisiting sectors to create fake shadows?

2 ] Can you divide up walls for the purpose of breaking them into smaller segments? For instance, if you wanted to put a light fixture in the middle of an existing wall, could you insert some extra vertecies to allow for the texture change?

3 ] Can I add extra sectors into existing sectors? Things like crates, pillars or walls and trenches.

4 ] How much can I reshape existing sectors and walls (if at all). Specifically, could I move walls and vertexes around to create more uniform angles. Can I insert\remove vertexes if needed?

Great idea for a contest BTW, and where did you get those improved Doom textures, they look pretty good.

Thanks

[William Gee]

I would like to give this a try, but I have a few questions. 1 ] Can you divide up exisiting sectors to create fake shadows?



Yes you can cut the sectors up as mutch as you like for whatever details you want.



2 ] Can you divide up walls for the purpose of breaking them into smaller segments? For instance, if you wanted to put a light fixture in the middle of an existing wall, could you insert some extra vertecies to allow for the texture change?



Yes. Remember as mutch detail as you would like. This map was only the base change it as mutch as you like http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Just dont make it bigger.


3 ] Can I add extra sectors into existing sectors? Things like crates, pillars or walls and trenches.




Yes.


4 ] How much can I reshape existing sectors and walls (if at all). Specifically, could I move walls and vertexes around to create more uniform angles. Can I insert\remove vertexes if needed?



Yes make all the changes you like as long as you dont make the map bigger than it is ATM. Your not alowed to make "New rooms" outside the area given.


Great idea for a contest BTW, and where did you get those improved Doom textures, they look pretty good.

Thanks



Doom texture remake project (http://switch.to/doom2textures/)
"Dame seems the site is down" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Had hundreds of remade doom textures in there.

Glad you like the project and you are gonna join http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If people are interested in looking at whats going on in other forums about the contest heres the links.

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~amc/forums/index.php?showtopic=4233&view=getnewpost

http://www.bur.st/~duke3d/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news;action=display;num=1097337923

And dont forget to read the rulz on the site http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Descent]

William, I'm in.

What is your email so I can send it to you?

[William Gee]

geewillywizz@hotmail.com

[Ding Bat]

I'll give it a try, now if i can just get the old juices to flow. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Whats with AMC, I've tried for 2 days to get through. Message says can't find. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[William Gee]

AMC is haveing some downtime.
Gamespy is having trouble http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Dunno when itle be back online. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[NetNessie]

Count me in, Ive been working on it pretty hard for the last couple of days.

BTW,

Could you zip up the origional textures, for High-Res mode in D3D, and post the file?

[William Gee]

excellent. now we have 15 people in the compitition http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Descent]

I have some questions:
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If I send them very soon, in a couple of days, will you spare it for later, or will you look directly at it?
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Am I allowed to do ANY, literally ANY effects like sliding doors and stuff?
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Am I NOT allowed to change ANY of the walls positioning?
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How will you decide who the winner is? Will you look on the general "feel" of the map, the realistic effects? Can you please tell me if you have time? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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I thought it might be hard to do a real single player map for that "layer" of the map that you've done (when you mentioned single player maps, I mostly thought on the ROCH maps, cause those are real SP maps, rock on)
Can you tell me some specific things I'm allowed to do when single player:ing?
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Have you thought about prizes for the winner of the competition? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Does that email work for MSN, if yes, can I add you and discuss things? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Thanks for the time being! haha

[William Gee]

If I send them very soon, in a couple of days, will you spare it for later, or will you look directly at it?




I think I would look at it lol, But im not judging on my own.

Am I allowed to do ANY, literally ANY effects like sliding doors and stuff?



Yes.



Am I NOT allowed to change ANY of the walls positioning?


You can change walls and there positioning. As long as you dont make the map bigger.


How will you decide who the winner is? Will you look on the general "feel" of the map, the realistic effects? Can you please tell me if you have time?



I have time. And Polls will be opend for people to vote what map they thought was the best. So I personaly dont decide alone.
But for me personaly i will vote on spritework design effects and gameplay.
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I thought it might be hard to do a real single player map for that "layer" of the map that you've done (when you mentioned single player maps, I mostly thought on the ROCH maps, cause those are real SP maps, rock on)
Can you tell me some specific things I'm allowed to do when single player:ing?



Ok map will be short but its up to you to decide how to do it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif thats why its a contest http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Have you thought about prizes for the winner of the competition?




A place on my site. Thats about it lol.


Does that email work for MSN, if yes, can I add you and discuss things?




yes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Descent]

Yay! Now I can make my winning plans to work! Muahha http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Am I disqualifyed if a make it a "little" bigger by accident? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I noticed it might be hard to do submergible water effects if you're NOT using the allowed area.. Is it allowed to create my own submergible water areas?

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another question, Am I only allowed to build in the valid player space?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[William Gee]

Am I disqualifyed if a make it a "little" bigger by accident?

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just put it back to origional size.
But your alowed to do small things like tiny cubord for medkit things like that


I noticed it might be hard to do submergible water effects if you're NOT using the allowed area.. Is it allowed to create my own submergible water areas?



you can only use what is given.


another question, Am I only allowed to build in the valid player space?



yes. but you can make new windows and "Small connecting coridors" SMALL!!! but no new rooms.

[Descent]

Okay I'm good now at the mo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'll keep terrorising you with question later... maybe.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Nice idea with this contest thing to be honest! good job..

by the way, are you competing too william?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Boinky]

Hey Will man, this looks like an awesome dukematch level, but I cant really see a SP match out of it.

[Boinky]

Cant edit my post anymore... Anyways are we allowed to do a custom con??

[William Gee]

Boinky said:
Cant edit my post anymore... Anyways are we allowed to do a custom con??



no new cons.
Im makeing a map for this but im not included in the competition.

[Descent]

Yay! Let me help ya out ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Maartn]

My map is going great, but I haven't worked on it last days.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'll build on it today maybe.

[Blade Nightflame]

I already have enough Map projects in my hands, so I don't need one that requires extra speed. Hallabal, Gallian, Area 51 and the Wild West maps need to be finished. <('.'<)

[William Gee]

Just wondering how everones progress is going?
There are about 15 people in this contest btw.

[Descent]

It goes alright.. pretty gay grid you got there :P hard to think of something unique..

[NetNessie]

Descent said:
It goes alright.. pretty gay grid you got there :P hard to think of something unique..



I can work with the grid, however, I no longer have the time to continue working on my entry. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The texture limit is a MAJOR pain though, there isnt a big enough variety IMO.

[MarkJ]

Reworked about half the level to something I'm fairly happy with. But will later have to go back and fix up all the shading and add in ambient SFX etc. I'd post a screen shot, but I don't want to give anything away.

[William Gee]

excellent (y) glad everythings going well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

and dont forget everyonw to have you maps into me by the week b4 christmas http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[MarkJ]

Another question.

On the East end of the level, you have a raised bit which sort of acts like a wall (So you can't get to the sector where the ceiling meets the floor I guess). anyway, I made it a wall, and built some structures outside of it. The main purpose of these structures is to make it look like there is something outside the level other than just empty sky. They don't actually serve any purpose other than looking good, and you can't get to them. But I had to expand the inacessable sector a little to get these scenery structures looking right.

I just wanted to know if this was a violation of the rules or not, since I had to slightly enlarge a sector or two (But to justify myself, the player can't get to those sectors anyway).

[William Gee]

Thats ok as long as player cant get to them http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
And not overly enlarged :P

[Merlijn]

Haven't touched my contest-map for ages. More busy working on red5 these days http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But I will try to finish it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[Mike359]

I think ill drop out of this one
I'm really busy making my site

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Maybye next time http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[William Gee]

well I have recieved 1 finihsed map from Kuffi.
So.... that make 1!

Hows everyone eles progress going?

[Descent]

Don't know, got me a bit bored of DN3D last time, so I don't know, I don't think there will be anything..

[MarkJ]

Still going, should be ready soon. When do I have to have submitted it by (Specific date)?

[Maartn]

I've planned most things out (how the gameplay will be), and I built some stuff yesterday.
I hope I won't be too lazy too finish it and have enough inspiration lol http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[William Gee]

week before christmas. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
So you all have about 1 month left so get building :P

[Kef Nukem]

yes common people, please work on this because I don't want to be the only one who finished a map ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Im curious to see how you people fill the map-template in with the new textures.

Good luck everyone.

[Kef Nukem]

so, who's still working on his/ her map?

[MarkJ]

I am, although it's not finished yet, I'll submit what I've done whether it's finished or not.

[NetNessie]

Im looking foward to seeing what everyone did for theirs. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[William Gee]

ok you now have a extension to the 15th of january. Enjoy :P

[MarkJ]

WOOHOO! If it gets more peoples maps submitted, I'm all for it!

Come on guys (and girls?), picking a winner from more than 2 submissions would be great. The map isn't terribly big, and you have almost an extra month to fill it with cool stuff. That should be nothing for many of you, even if you have other 'projects' on the side. Hell, mine would have been finished a month ago had my employers not been monopolizing virtually all my free time (40+ Hours in 3 days with about 4 Hours sleep, good times... *NOT*).

When this thing started, there was something like ten (maybe even more) people who said they were in, where did everyone go? Oh wait, I get it now. You knew you couldn't possibly produce a better map than *MINE*, so you decided not to enter to save yourself the humiliation and embarassment. WUSSIES! Hang your heads in shame : ).

Prove your mapping superiority to the net, and do this comp. If not for yourself, do it for your fellow Duke Fans. A few hours is all it should take, and if you have enough time to browse these boards then I am sure you can spare a few hours for this too.

Good Luck, you'll need it.

[Kef Nukem]

I'd say to everyone who likes the idea of the contest, just start and see where it goes, finish it, scrap it or release it later as your "own, new map". Don't say: Bleh I won't enter cause no-one's in. Like this is a big contest about millions of dollars, it's just for fun, and see it as a challenge, instead of creating your own, new map with the same textures again..

[Boinky]

attachments went bye-bye http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif. I was gonna look at these contests maps for some moral support.. So if you guys dont mind want to repost em http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[William Gee]

??
This contest is like so dead http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Im sure there are a bunch of post missing from this thread :s

Anyways Kuffis map has been released It was the only map that got finished.

Download kuffis map here (http://www.bur.st/~duke3d/cgi-bin/load.cgi?http://www.bur.st/~duke3d/files/singles/kutwrld.zip)

[Boinky]

I know but the maps looked really cool, Markj released one too, but it was unfinished.

[MarkJ]

Here it is.

[Boinky]

awesome! Thx