Far Cry Patch

[Duoae]

Just in case anybody cares, Crytek have finally released the replacement patch to the famously withdrawn 1.2.

FarCry 1.3 (http://www.farcry.ubi.com/)

Actually, seeing this has made me want to play FC again to tide me over until HL2. Funny really. I never had any problems with FC.

[Drazula]

^^^
I didn't have an trouble either. But this is great news!

The best is back, baby!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Needle]

Duoae said:
I never had any problems with FC.


Nor did I. It crashed occasionally but thats normal.

[Opus131]

Still no quick save, pretty much the only reason i was waiting for this patch...

[g-dog]

Needle said:

Duoae said:
I never had any problems with FC.


Nor did I. It crashed occasionally but thats normal.



^^^^ Says who??? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Nessus]

I see they have enabled HIgh Dynamic Range rendering as a command line option, I wonder what kind of diffrence it will make.

[wonderpants]

Nessus said:
I see they have enabled HIgh Dynamic Range rendering as a command line option, I wonder what kind of diffrence it will make.



screenshots here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39383&page=2&pp=15)

[Drazula]

Thanks wonderpants. Those screenshots look awesome!

[Nessus]

Wow! A little overdone in places but it really looks cool. In the comparison screenshots the way the light fell on the world geometry looked so much more realistic, not so video-gamey.

I hated the Farcry demos but I just might get this for the eye candy, maybe I can cheat my way through.

[Mountain Man]

File this one under "It's about damn time!"

But still no quicksave? File this one under "Dumbest game-design decisions!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[LiquiD]

Hahah, yeah still no quicksave are these ******s stupid or what! Thats what people want more than stupid r_HDRRendering. By the way, do you need an sm3 card to enable r_HDRRendering 1 or can you do it on any dx9 card?

I only have a 9800pro... I'll try it when the patch finishes downloading. Its pretty big. It better fix alot! Althouth the main fix I was looking forward too apparently isn't there. But 1.2 had quicksaving. You just had to use the console.

[Nessus]

Are you guys f*cking kidding me? There's still no quicksave in this game? I cant even comrpehend how dumb that is, now there's no chance I'm buying it.

( edit) Tell me if youre still able to do it through the command line, that might sway things for me. Its just hard to wrap my mind around how a company could care so little about the customer complaints, I dont think they have any idea the huge number of sales this cost them.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Lol, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. The quicksave would, in my opinion, detract from the game. It would become like max payne 2 and you would use the quicksave every few seconds. not fun.

[Nessus]

^ Yeah but I thought the gameplay stunk in the demo, I mainly just want to play to take a tour through the virtual world they have created if that makes any sense, so I'm not looking for challenge in this one, just to pound my through and see the sites. So for me it must have a quicksave.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Just use god mode then...... stop bitching. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Hudson]

wonderpants said:

Nessus said:
I see they have enabled HIgh Dynamic Range rendering as a command line option, I wonder what kind of diffrence it will make.



screenshots here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39383&page=2&pp=15)



Goddammit I hate when people put their system stats and scores inside they're signatures (like the idiots on that board). It just makes me want to stab them in the face with a rake.

[0marTheZealot]

quick save wasn't really necessary, not for me at least.

Most of the game wasn't that hard and save points were pretty well placed.

[Opus131]

Inanimate Carbon Rod said:
Lol, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. The quicksave would, in my opinion, detract from the game. It would become like max payne 2 and you would use the quicksave every few seconds. not fun.



No, it would become like any other FPS, that is, FUN.

Having to repeat entire sections of a level because of a mere mistake = frustration, but then again, frustration seems to be second nature for this game...

[Mountain Man]

Nessus said:
( edit) Tell me if youre still able to [quicksave] through the command line, that might sway things for me.


You can, but it's a bit of a cludge and tends to break things when you reload, so it's really not a viable alternative to a genuine quicksave feature.

[Decker]

Has anyone here tried the co-op mod (http://www.farcrycoop.de.vu) ?

How well/poorly does it work? How do you advance between levels with a friend? I downloaded the latest alpha, along with the 1.3 patch. Gonna try it out later today.

[TerminX]

Hudson said:

wonderpants said:

Nessus said:
I see they have enabled HIgh Dynamic Range rendering as a command line option, I wonder what kind of diffrence it will make.



screenshots here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39383&page=2&pp=15)



Goddammit I hate when people put their system stats and scores inside they're signatures (like the idiots on that board). It just makes me want to stab them in the face with a rake.


There are tech support sections on forums like nvnews -- having your system specs in your sig can be helpful so you don't have to keep repeating them every time you have a problem, and so if someone is helping you they don't have to go and find the post you posted the specs in to know what hardware you have.

Most of it is e-penis bullshit, though.

[Decker]

MM:

I think the autosave fits into Far Cry just as well as it did in Mafia. Didn't have any problems with either game.

If you don't like it, at least remember to add IMO at the end of your sentences, because you're hardly any kind of authority as to what is a bad gameplay decision and what's not.

Furthermore, repeating yourself ad infinitum doesn't help either. As you recognized, it's a gameplay decision rather than a bug that would be patched.

[Mountain Man]

Decker said:
I think the autosave fits into Far Cry just as well as it did in Mafia.


That's nice.


If you don't like it, at least remember to add IMO at the end of your sentences...


Isn't this self-evident?


As you recognized, it's a gameplay decision...


And a rather poor one at that.

Actually, the problem isn't so much with autosave but with the use of "sudden death syndrome" sprinkled liberally throughout the levels (rocket launcher snipers? What were they thinking!). Nothing kills my enthusiasm for a game faster than having to play through a given section half-a-dozen times or more where the only way to beat it is to memorize level layout and enemy placement. This is why my initial impression of Far Cry was favorable, but the more I played the less I liked it.

[Soothsayer]

Decker said:

I think the autosave fits into Far Cry just as well as it did in Mafia. Didn't have any problems with either game.




IMO, Mafia also had the occasional frustrating moment where the save points were too far between and the game became a little tedious.

It's not the game's fault that the player abuses the quicksave function. If you want (and enjoy) quickloading your game after every battle because you suffered 1% of damage then that's your business. Quicksave is pretty much a standard feature of shooter games.

Going back to Farcry, I'm replaying it now that I've got my X800 pro. And it looks goddamn awesome, though there were a few graphical glitches. Interesting to see if this patch makes any improved difference.

[Orochi Avlis]

Mountain Man said:
rocket launcher snipers? What were they thinking!


I hated those bastards.

[Drazula]

I think quicksave should have been added, but it is not a deal breaker for Far Cry IMO.

Unlike Halo, which a player could only have one save point, in Far Cry, you can have many save points and go back to anyone that you want. This allows you to "explore" when you are badly damaged without fear of accidently overwriting your last save point.

For me Far Cry's save point system is not the best solution, but it is a manageable one.

[FireFly]

Drazula said:
I think quicksave should have been added, but it is not a deal breaker for Far Cry IMO.

Unlike Halo, which a player could only have one save point, in Far Cry, you can have many save points and go back to anyone that you want. This allows you to "explore" when you are badly damaged without fear of accidently overwriting your last save point.



Actually in Halo you could save previous checkpoints, it was just something you had to do manually.

[LiquiD]

Has anyone got the new rendering feature working on non 6800 ultra cards?

[motionblur]

Oh. COME ... ON!!!!!!! Will you guys *please* stop making this into ANOTHER "I want my quicksave" - complaining thread? We've had that argument too often now. Obviously there's still no real quicksave feature. So besides the fact that the new redering option seems to look damn beautiful there's still only 3 things you can do:

1. If you don't care whether there's QS or not: fine. Play it and be happy. Yay!

2. If you'd like to have quicksave but still can live without it because you like the game: go ahead. Play it and cheat at the pasages that you think are appropriate for cheating.

3. If you find the lack of quicksaving so bad that you just can't seem to buy the game because of it: O-Kay!!!! Don't buy it! Don't play the f'in game. Complaining here won't change a damn thing about quicksave! Leave those who don't care alone.
(And to those who don't care: leave the quicksave faction alone. Except you all want this thread closed sooner or later)

Sheesh.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Opus131]

How about you just shut yer trap and leave US alone instead ?!?

I've been waiting since april for a quicksave feature. It was promised with the 1.2 patch, but they pulled that back and now we had to wait untill november for yet another patch, and still no quicksave.

If i was Drazula, and this was Half Life 2, i'd start some absurd argument about how the game was designed to have an auto save point system because they couldn't code quicksave correctly which would have pushed the game to 2005... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Mountain Man]

motionblur said:
OMG!!!1!!! TEH OPINION IS DIFERENT!!!1!!1! WTF! LOLOLOLOL!!! BETTR FLAME TEHM!!!11!!!

[motionblur]

Mountain Man said:

motionblur said:
OMG!!!1!!! TEH OPINION IS DIFERENT!!!1!!1! WTF! LOLOLOLOL!!! BETTR FLAME TEHM!!!11!!!




Yeah. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/goofy.gif

[Drazula]

Opus131 said:
If i was Drazula, and this was Half Life 2, i'd start some absurd argument about how the game was designed to have an auto save point system because they couldn't code quicksave correctly which woul have pushed the game to 2005... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif


That's close. They designed the game with save points in mind. Now the program layout and data structures don't lend themselves to doing quicksaves without a massive rewrite.

The real difference if this was HL2 is that Valve would claim they had quicksaves right up to the release date. Not deliver on the release. Then months later when a new release date is announced, say they are using save points and never said they would use quicksave.

I would claim they said it and everyone on the forum would say Valve didn't say it. They would flame me, call me a troll, and demand my banishment. And then they would claim they really like save points. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Just like they did with Stea... MEH! I won't go there.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[FireFly]

But that's just like saying "if Valve were a bad developer".

[Drazula]

FireFly said:
But that's just like saying "if Valve were a bad developer".


Depends on your definition of "bad".... Replace quicksaves with "you know what" and we have a perfect match!

[FireFly]

I contest that point.

[Drazula]

^^^^
That puts you in the "everyone on the forum would say Valve didn't say it" crowd! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mountain Man]

I have no idea what reality you live.

[Drazula]

^^^
It's call the truth reality, as opposed to the hype fantasy you live in. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[FireFly]

Reality is overrated

[Opus131]

Drazula said:
as opposed to the hype fantasy you live in. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



A vein just popped in my left eye...

[Fat John]

Opus131 said:
A vein just popped in the my left eye...



Well done?

[Mountain Man]

Drazula said:
It's call the truth reality...


In your case, the "truth" is a nebulous thing indeed.

[Nessus]

Quicksaves require a massive rewrite of code? The little feature that just about every game for the last 5 years has had? Somehow I doubt that.

I think I'll just pick it up and cheat my way through if needed, it just looks too damm good to pass up, plus I want out of dingy corridors already, on to paradise!

[Fat John]

Yes if it was just outdoors then I would be much happier TBH.

[Mountain Man]

Nessus said:
Quicksaves require a massive rewrite of code?


Actually, quicksaves do exist in the game since you can use the console to quicksave. Unfortunately, it's a bit borked.


I think I'll just pick it up and cheat my way through if needed, it just looks too damm good to pass up, plus I want out of dingy corridors already, on to paradise!


Download the demos. They show you pretty much everything the game has to offer, and you won't have to blow 50 bucks to see it.

[Damien_Azreal]

Plus getting cheats to work in Far Cry can be a real bitch.

[Rico]

Is this the same reality where Judge Dredd is a great game right up there with Kreed?

That's messed up.

[Drazula]

Quicksaves require a massive rewrite of code?


Why would you not think so. It is like anything that is not planned in the initial design.... a pain in the a$$. Just like co-op.

If it was so easy to do, why doesn't Halo have it? Or XIII....

It is not that easy to put in after the fact, especially if variables don't maintain state throughout the entire level.

[Damien_Azreal]

Damn I hate large patches. 70MB's... it said it would take around 8 hours to download. F*ck that.

The game runs great as is, I don't need that damn new renderer. But I'm still pretty pissed.

[TerminX]

Damien_Azreal said:
Damn I hate large patches. 70MB's... it said it would take around 8 hours to download. F*ck that.

The game runs great as is, I don't need that damn new renderer. But I'm still pretty pissed.


What kind of piss poor connection are you on? 70 megs only takes 3.5 hours to download on 56k.

[DrafT]

Would people need [read : complain about the lack of] quicksaves if the game was easy?

IMO, no.

You die so much that it's not fun to play anymore... the "easy" difficulty level is made for you. Included in the design.

[Mountain Man]

There's more reasons for wanting quicksave than simply "Teh game is 2 hard!" One is the ability to save the game whenever you need to (it was frustrating not knowing if the next save point was 2 minutes or 10 minutes away). The second is being able to try different things without having to replay long stretches of the game. In a game as apparently open-ended as Far Cry, the lack of ability to easily replay descrete sections from a different approach really limited the playability.

[London_Midge]

Quicksave should be in every game. No excuses should be accepted or tolerated, as there is no good reason to leave it out, and for incompetent gamers (such as myself), it is an absolute must if we intend to harvest any sort of entertainment from the game. If you have to rely on savepoints as a solid gameplay element, go find another career. I hear banking requires little imagination and might be right up your alley.

However, for a quick fix, just add "-DEVMODE" to the shortcut target and use F9 for save and F10 for load. Works perfectly. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Chainsaw Bunny]

Looks great on my gt6800.

Gonna be great for single player mods, but not soo good for multi-player mods.

I think Farcry deserves a section in the 3d realms forums, like hl2, d3 and unreal.

[Opus131]

Chainsaw Bunny said:
I think Farcry deserves a section in the 3d realms forums, like hl2, d3 and unreal.



It's too late for that now...

[Chainsaw Bunny]

Why?

[Mountain Man]

I believe he means that Far Cry's popularity has waned to the point that a dedicated Far Cry forum would be a waste of server space.

[Wrathstalker]

How do you disable HDR rendering? I enabled it through the console by typing "r_HDRRendering 7"... now I don't now how to disable it... restarting the game doesn't work. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[wonderpants]

Have you tried "r_HDRRendering 0"?

[Wrathstalker]

Yep, I've tried... but it keeps jumping back to 7.. I even wen't into the config file and changed it there. Ran the game, quit... and it was back to 7. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Elisha DiCaprio]

How do I enable GOD mode in FarCry 1.3? I have -devmode in the command line but pressing backspace does nothing. Does anyone know how to enable it?

Thanks,

[Airtraffic]

Elisha DiCaprio said:
How do I enable GOD mode in FarCry 1.3? I have -devmode in the command line but pressing backspace does nothing. Does anyone know how to enable it?

Thanks,


Not too many people play Far-Cry anymore and you expect a cheater to remember how he beat it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif