Charlie is back.

[On/Off]

Can't wait for this acid trip!

[Klaus Kinski]

Acid trip is exactly the right description.

[Kalki]

Nice! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Farlander]

I'd be looking forward to this if not for the fact that I can't stand the sight of Johnny Depp.

[Beelze]

I love Johnny Depp http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tim Burton + Johnny Depp + Danny Elfman = beautiful experience.

[Damien_Azreal]

Me want see now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[NutWrench]

I was hoping to see Christopher Walken as Willy Wonka.

Fark Photoshop thread. Theme: photoshop an unlikely Willy Wonka for Tim Burton's new film. (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1019632)

[Klaus Kinski]

That looks damn scary. Christopher Walkn should make more horror films.

[Brick_Sledge]

I imagine that the movie will rock hard and well.

[Dr.Dude]

Looks pretty good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Hopefully this adaption will be more faithful to the spirit of the book than the previous film. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So far Johnny Depp looks about right, though it's too bad that they neglected to give Wonka the goatee, again. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif But that's really a nitpick in the long run, since regardless of that detail Depp as Wonka has potential of being just about the most perfect casting imagineable IMO, and Tim Burton is a great choice for the director of a suitably weird story like this one.

[mr black]

*sigh* another story down the toilet.

depp + elfman - burton = great movie

i was a strong defender or burton for a LONG time, but now he's a hack. having put out mediocre drivel for the last 10 years.

these would have been great:

depp + elfman + Jean-Pierre Jeunet

or

depp + elfman + terry gilliam


and in the news today, holliwood continues to crap all over itself....

[NutWrench]

The movie poster does not impress me. Wonka looks like some fruity, Michael Jackson wannabee.

If Tim Burton remains true to form, expect the Oompa-Loompas to be dressed up in spikey black leather. I'm tired of paying full price at the movies to watch Burton work out his sado-maso bondage fetishes onscreen.

[KillerByte]

Depp looks as pale as one of his finest previous characters - Edward Scissorhands.

I'm hoping this film will be just as successful. Depp looks set to play a more sinister Willy Wonka. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[AndOne]

Hell, I'd put Depp in a live action version of "The Nightmare Before Christmas" another one of Burtons all time greats. IMO!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I actually think this is a good mesh for this movie. I mean going back and watching the original version, it really wasn't meant for kids. I thot it to be kinda scary at times.

* (the boat ride for example)

[On/Off]

Edit: Oops.

[Mediocre, Man.]

I wonder what this will be rated when it comes out. Is there a possibility that Burton would make this more adult orientated?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[KaiserSoze]

Dr.Dude said:
Looks pretty good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Hopefully this adaption will be more faithful to the spirit of the book than the previous film. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



i read somewhere that burton wanted his adaption to be more dark like the dahl book.

"acid trip" is also a great description. this is gonna be one of those movies that only make sense(in a way) by being under the influence of various intoxicating substances. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

also depp+burton+elfman=sure hit (i.m.h.o of course).

i'm waiting for my golden ticket. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[shiranui]

I assume this won't be a musical?

[Ecmaster76]

I assume it will be. Though how you could ever one-up the oompa loompa song is beyond me.

Nightmare Before Christmas was a musical if I remember correctly.

I see they got the title right this time too. 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' instead of 'Willy Wonka...'.

[Kalki]

Ecmaster76 said:
I assume it will be. Though how you could ever one-up the oompa loompa song is beyond me.



I've been humming that song all through yesterday ever since seeing that poster.

[Dr.Dude]

KaiserSoze said:
i read somewhere that burton wanted his adaption to be more dark like the dahl book.


Good to hear. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Dahl's writings, even the ones aimed at children, were always somewhat twisted and a little darkly-toned, while at the same time having a strange sense of enjoyment and dreamlike feel to them. It's gonna be a tricky balancing act for adapting this to film, getting it wierd and bizarre enough while also at the same time still being something kids can have fun watching.

[shiranui]

Excluding the Oompa Loompa song of course.

[LeadBullet]

I've always hated musicals. Ever since I was old enough to speak I'd start bitching to whoever was nearby whenever a Disney movie or whatever would suddenly break out into some lame song. I'm just glad I was old enough to outgrow them when I did, since if I had to listen to any of the Phil Collins kind of shit they were putting in them, I'd probably have hung myself when I was 8. The only musical I've been able to sit through or enjoy was the South Park movie.

[On/Off]

I could not agree more leadbullet, but let me tell you, that oompa loompa song is is probably one of the coolest songs ever written.
Another thing, I see Depp as the ideal Wonka, but I just cannot picture him singing, I just can't.

[thefly]

Charlie is back.



Son of a bitch! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I thought this was going to be about Wiederhold's return to the forum! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Tip]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...p;page=0#505790 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=505790&an=0&page=0#505790)

[KaiserSoze]

let's get back on topic here:

the tripped out trailer:

http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18971

[ryche]

LOL that's the oddest damn thing I've seen lately

[mr black]

KaiserSoze said:
let's get back on topic here:

the tripped out trailer:

http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18971




braaaappppp. what's that smell? it's pretty bad when the llama song is better than that piece o' crappy crap.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Another link

http://mp3content01.bcst.yahoo.com/bmfroot02/BMFShare02/yahoomovies/4/10140065.mov

[ADM]

Aww hell yeah!

Go charlie! it's your birthday!

Seriously though this film looks awesome.. can't wait to be totally mind f*cked.

EDIT:

One thing I noticed in the trailer is the part where he's holding the scissors.. looks like a kind of nod to Edward Scissorhands.. or I could be looking too much into it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[On/Off]

This teaser is absolutely awesome, I can't wait to see this in the theaters.

**** the kids, I'm going to the midnight show.

[Rider]

this is some sweet trailer, you betcha I'm gonna be watching that movie!!

[KaiserSoze]

this is one movie you'll definately have to see under "the influence". http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

good stuff.

[Imfamous]

I heard a couple years ago that Marylon Manson was gonna be in this film. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Roger]

I have a bad feeling about this. :/

[Synti]

That looks like an awesome film. Burton + Depp + Elfam is indeed an excellent combo. Although, it is true that lately Burton has been crapping out pretty mediocre movies. Gilliam would be even better choice, but I'm 100% this film is going to rock.

[Beelze]

Haha, this will be most interesting. Can't wait to get my brain furiously raped. I think it's somewhat brave to make a movie like this.

I'm considering getting into drugs just for this movie! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bonny5278]

NutWrench said:
I was hoping to see Christopher Walken as Willy Wonka.

Fark Photoshop thread. Theme: photoshop an unlikely Willy Wonka for Tim Burton's new film. (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1019632)



This guy looks like he's on crack.

[GrkFire611]

I have to agree with mr. black here -- the song playing over the trailer is terrible. The actual footage did look sufficiently interesting, though. I'll likely check this out when it hits theatres.

Still, that music... ugh. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[Dr.Dude]

Whoa....most bizarre trailer ever? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

But considering what the source material is, that's a good thing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Lookin' good so far!

[Gatinater]

Wasn't there a version of charlie and the choclate factory in which Gene Hackmin played Willie Wonka?

[Alcoholic 007]

It is my opinion that the first movie was rather dark and kind of freakish.

[Boo Boo Juice]

What is it with people saying burton has been producing crap lately? He just got done with Big Fish (which was an awesome movie), before that he did Planet of the Apes (which kinda sucked, but wasn't terrible imho). Oh no! He directed one crappy movie! That means he has been producing pretty shitty movies lately.

Since, ya know, he has done one movie in the past two years.

Seriously though, let's look at all his movies. He's done some great stuff, and the only two bad things i can think of that he did were Mars Attacks (which wasn't too bad) and planet of the apes (which also wasn't terrible). Everything else he has done has been great. Everyone has a movie that just wasn't all that great.

[On/Off]

Gatinater said:
Wasn't there a version of charlie and the choclate factory in which Gene Hackmin played Willie Wonka?



Are you talking about the original (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067992/) movie? Cuz, if you are it's Gene Wilder who played Willy Wonka.

[mr black]

Boo Boo Juice said:
What is it with people saying burton has been producing crap lately?




let's look a the scoreboard chuck:

Big Fish (2003) - I give it a 5 out of 10. Looked nice but it felt unfinished , the stories weren't very interesting. Very forgettable.

Planet of the Apes (2001) - as you mentioned it did suck. I give it a 2. Bad acting, terrible story line, really bad art direction, you name it it sucked.

Sleepy Hollow (1999) - I give it a 6. Marginally entertaining but it felt like it never really got rolling. Decent acting if you can stomach Depp's choice of how to play ichabod. Nice set's and art direction, though nothing underneath.

Mars Attacks (1996) - I enjoyed this - I say 7 out of 10. Silly but willing to make fun of itself. True to the history of cheesy sci-fi movies.

Mars Attacks is the last Burton movie I enjoyed and that was 8 years ago. He's lost it. Mediocrity is his gift to us all now. I can't and won't go see Charlie, unless I take a lot of drugs first..... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Gatinater]

K said:

Gatinater said:
Wasn't there a version of charlie and the choclate factory in which Gene Hackmin played Willie Wonka?



Are you talking about the original (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067992/) movie? Cuz, if you are it's Gene Wilder who played Willy Wonka.



yes, Gene Wilder. That's who I meant. Gene Hackmin is the guy that played lex luther in the superman movie and other characters in several other not so great movies.

[Kalki]

The only thing trippy about that trailer is Depp. The rest fell pretty much in line with my expectations. Depp came off looking very feminine. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[LeadBullet]

Kalki said:
Depp came off looking very feminine. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



Yeah, same as in that pirates movie as well.

Is it just me or is there something a little insincere about the way he acts in the trailer? He will seem to appear like hes trying to act happy or something, but his facial expression just looks really faked.

[Geir]

KaiserSoze said:
let's get back on topic here:

the tripped out trailer:

http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18971



I do not want to install quicktime again since it's got that stupid Itunes, can someone find another format of the same trailer?


K said:
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/attachments/716938-6ed91d992c2b254304ebbc26df5e7f20.jpg



does that person look like a woman to you?



Thefly said:

Charlie is back


Son of a bitch! I thought this was going to be about Wiederhold's return to the forum!



I thought it was going to be about Charlie's angels 3. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

P.S. quote a link. have the closing quote tag be unspaced between the link. try that and you will see very funny results.

[Beelze]

LeadBullet said:
Is it just me or is there something a little insincere about the way he acts in the trailer? He will seem to appear like hes trying to act happy or something, but his facial expression just looks really faked.


I think it's just you. How the hell can someone fail at looking happy? I don't think looking like you should is hard to do, especially if you're an actor. It's harder to sound convincing, but he definately looked cheerful to me.

[On/Off]

LeadBullet said:
Is it just me or is there something a little insincere about the way he acts in the trailer? He will seem to appear like hes trying to act happy or something, but his facial expression just looks really faked.



I did feel something odd about his acting, but I just thought that he was just extra trippy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Synti]

mr black said:
let's look a the scoreboard chuck:

Big Fish (2003) - I give it a 5 out of 10. Looked nice but it felt unfinished , the stories weren't very interesting. Very forgettable.

Planet of the Apes (2001) - as you mentioned it did suck. I give it a 2. Bad acting, terrible story line, really bad art direction, you name it it sucked.

Sleepy Hollow (1999) - I give it a 6. Marginally entertaining but it felt like it never really got rolling. Decent acting if you can stomach Depp's choice of how to play ichabod. Nice set's and art direction, though nothing underneath.

Mars Attacks (1996) - I enjoyed this - I say 7 out of 10. Silly but willing to make fun of itself. True to the history of cheesy sci-fi movies.

Mars Attacks is the last Burton movie I enjoyed and that was 8 years ago. He's lost it. Mediocrity is his gift to us all now. I can't and won't go see Charlie, unless I take a lot of drugs first..... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I gotta agree with you here, 'cept with Big Fish. It's definetly not an 5 point movie! I agree though, that it was rather forgettable. But it still had an awesome feel to it and the dialogue was great. A real oldfashioned fairytale mixed up with some drama. I loved it. 8 out of 10.

[Beelze]

I'd like to add to my previous post that I'm not attacking you or your observation, LeadBullet. Perhaps he does look a bit fake, but I'd say that's because we're not used to see people being that happy, with the excessive smiling and the like... and Willy Wonky certainly seemed like a happy guy to me. He's a bit unreal.

[NutWrench]

Beelze said:

LeadBullet said:
Is it just me or is there something a little insincere about the way he acts in the trailer? He will seem to appear like hes trying to act happy or something, but his facial expression just looks really faked.


I think it's just you. How the hell can someone fail at looking happy? I don't think looking like you should is hard to do, especially if you're an actor. It's harder to sound convincing, but he definately looked cheerful to me.



It's more of a "creepy" vibe for me and it's a Michael Jackson kind of creepyness than the usual Roald Dahl creepyness.

[LeadBullet]

It was just his eyes I guess. He was smiling and all, but it looked like the upper half of his face thought he was doing Edward Scissorhands again.

[ryche]

My wife thought the same thing on the facials lookin like Edward Sissorhands.

[motionblur]

Beelze said:
I'd like to add to my previous post that I'm not attacking you or your observation, LeadBullet. Perhaps he does look a bit fake, but I'd say that's because we're not used to see people being that happy, with the excessive smiling and the like... and Willy Wonky certainly seemed like a happy guy to me. He's a bit unreal.


'We're not used to seeing people that happy' ...?
No. Not really. Johnny Depp *has* a weird happy-look on his face. It's a kind of fake happiness - which looks odd. But I think it fits to the set of the movie.

[NutWrench]

motionblur said:
Johnny Depp *has* a weird happy-look on his face. It's a kind of fake happiness - which looks odd. But I think it fits to the set of the movie.



Happy Helmet? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

********************************************
Ren on the couch again. Stimpy off to side.
Stimpy: "Oh Re-en!"
Ren: "What?!"
Stimpy: "Are you feeling any better?"
Ren: "No, I'm not feeling any better! Wait! What are you up to?"
Stimpy: [Holds something behind his back] "Oh, no-othing."
Ren: "What have you got behind your back? You're hiding something from me... aren't you? What is it you're hiding? All right let's see it, okay, hand it over!"
[Stimpy quickly slams the Happy Helmet onto Ren.]
Ren: "Hey! What is this thing? Get it off of me!"
Stimpy: "It's the happy helmet, Ren. Now you'll always be happy! And this is the remote control. And I use this dial to control how happy you are!"
Ren: "You sick little monkey! Why I oughta-"
Stimpy pushes a button on the remote control and Ren freezes. His mouth curves into a smile and he tries to fight it.
Stimpy: "Hey, it works!" He pushes the button again. This continues for a few more times.
Ren: "No! Got to . . . fight it! Can't . . . lose . . . control! Will strong.... body weak....."
Finally Ren snaps and becomes insanely happy.
Ren: "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, ha ha ha ha! Stimpy, I'm so - happy! I must - go - do nice - things! Hee hee he hee hee, ha ha ha hahaaaa!"
***********************************************

[Mountain Man]

motionblur said:
Not really. Johnny Depp *has* a weird happy-look on his face. It's a kind of fake happiness - which looks odd. But I think it fits to the set of the movie.


I would be surprised if it wasn't intentional.

[London_Midge]

I really thought that Gene Wilder pulled of a tragically-happy demeanor in the original, too. You get the impression that he started off quite happy in life, and stayed that way for a while, but for whatever reason, has grown increasingly tired of the idiots, ingrates, and jerks, and his smiles are a bit more forced now. You also quite easily see that he delights in the misfortune of the kids in the factory, too, which is more than a little twisted.

I remember getting the same impression from the book, too, but it has been 20 years since I've read it, so the movie could be influencing my recollection.

[On/Off]

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> Wait a minute, isn't Willy Wonka dying or something like that and that is why he wants to bequeath the factory to a willing and capable kid. If I'm correct that should explain the forced happiness. </td></tr></table>

[NutWrench]

From the book Charlie and the Chocolate Factory:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The great glass lift was now hovering high over the town. Inside the lift stood Mr Wonka, Grandpa Joe, and little Charlie.

'How I love my chocolate factory,' said Mr Wonka, gazing down. Then he paused, and he turned around and looked at Charlie with a most serious expression on his face. 'Do you love it too, Charlie?' he asked.

'Oh, yes,' cried Charlie, 'I think it's the most wonderful place in the whole world!'

'I am very pleased to hear you say that,' said Mr Wonka, looking more serious than ever. He went on staring at Charlie. 'Yes,' he said, 'I am very pleased indeed to hear you say that. And now I shall tell you why.' Mr Wonka cocked his head to one side and all at once the tiny twinkling wrinkles of a smile appeared around the corners of his eyes, and he said, 'You see, my dear boy, I have decided to make you a present of the whole place. As soon as you are old enough to run it, the entire factory will become yours.'

Charlie stared at Mr Wonka. Grandpa Joe opened his mouth to speak, but no words came out.

'It's quite true,' Mr Wonka said, smiling broadly now. 'I really am giving it to you. That's all right, isn't it?'

'Giving it to him?' gasped Grandpa Joe. 'You must be joking.'

'I'm not joking, sir. I'm deadly serious.'

'But . . . but . . . why should you want to give your factory to little Charlie?'

'Listen,' Mr Wonka said, 'I'm an old man. I'm much older than you think. I can't go on for ever. I've got no children of my own, no family at all. So who is going to run the factory when I get too old to do it myself? Someone's got to keep it going — if only for the sake of the Oompa-Loompas. Mind you, there are thousands of clever men who would give anything for the chance to come in and take over from me, but I don't want that sort of person. I don't want a grown-up person at all. A grown-up won't listen to me; he won't learn. He will try to do things his own way and not mine. So I have to have a child. I want a good sensible loving child, one to whom I can tell all my most precious sweet-making secrets — while I am still alive.'
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The movie with Gene Wilder had an interesting twist towards in the end where Wonka tests Charlie's honesty. (re: the Everlasting Gobstopper)

[Beelze]

motionblur said:
Johnny Depp *has* a weird happy-look on his face. It's a kind of fake happiness - which looks odd. But I think it fits to the set of the movie.


Not all the way through the trailer. Sometimes he looks exaggeratedly happy though, and we regard that as fake.

[Pansa]

Watched it yesterday .. all hail to the cinemaxx in Essen... they show movies undubbed ever so often..

I thoght it was wicked ... in both meanings ..

i disliked the change about wonkas family and the resulting prolonged ending though.

But the way they did the oompa loompas was way more suitable than the old version.. (this ones a bit closer to the book)

[ADM]

I just saw it then.. I really enjoyed it.

There was definitely that Tim Burton feel in the movie that gave it abit of an edge over the old classic.

Johnny Depp done a fantastic job in it, loved the way he dances everytime the Oompa Loompas sing http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Boo Boo Juice]

The reason Johnny Depp's smile looks fake is because it is supposed to look that way. He is trying to make it seem like he is faking the happiness. Willy isn't really a happy person in the movie, but tries to make it seem like he is. So, Johnny Depp actually did another fantastic job. He wanted you to notice the fake smiles, and you did. He did what he was supposed to do.

He is trying to seem like a happy person around the kids, but he really isn't. He doesn't really seem to like the children at all. He pretty much knows which kids are going to be bad kids. The only time you see Depp with a real smile is when he is around Charlie.

To me personally, you can't compare (and you shouldn't) the Gene Wilder "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" to Tim Burton's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". They are the same story and same characters, but they are still so different. Thats me though.

I never read the book, but as I understand it Tim Burton's was much closer to the book than Gene Wilder's.

If I did have to pick though, I'd have to say I like Tim Burton's version more. The style was just much more enjoyable. I do prefer the old oompa-loompa songs though.

[Paroxysm]

New movie: Parts greater than the whole. There was basically no charlie story in the new film, infact he pretty much dissapears for a great section of the movie. Shit CGI. Pointless narrator. Totally miss pitched moments (unlce joes dance out of bed for example). Horrible songs and Depp never really seems like a character, more just like Depp having fun. Thankfully when Depp tries to be fun he is. Once again basically Depp saves a movie totally.


Boo Boo Juice said:
I never read the book, but as I understand it Tim Burton's was much closer to the book than Gene Wilder's.




It isn't. Just seems people got the idea from a press release or something.