It's Unreal. And it's almost here.

Parkar · 10-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Something interesting happend with the Epic hompage and forum for a short while.

Seems like they are trying to cover it up now as form threads are aperantly being removed as soon as they are posted. Beyondunreal also pulled the news story so just this thread is left.

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=189029

Either some viral marketing, a mistake with their servers or they got hacked. Not sure what it is.

Kien · 10-22-2009, 07:32 PM

Like they say on the forums, maybe it's demonstration of updated engine? Without clear proof I won't believe that they will get back to Unreal games again. UT3 is not Unreal game.

If it would be a sequel to Unreal though, I have even less hope that it will be a true sequel. It will be something like Unreal 2. With the only connection to Unreal being the name and skaarjs.

Random comment, I hated that they turned skaarjs into fat overmuscular orks in U2.

Babe · 10-22-2009, 07:34 PM

It sure is strange though that they keep on deleting all threads and topic without acknowledging that they have been hacked or they are up to something new. They just want to hide the something completely, trying to remove all traces of it ? Why what are they hiding. Here is the pic that they are desperately trying to hide

Now I wouldn't min an Unreal III myself. If it is Unreal III, then bring it on. I am all for it

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Kien · 10-22-2009, 07:41 PM

Btw if it is U3, how many of you cares if it has impressive graphics like the first game had? For me that couldn't matter less for me.

Babe · 10-22-2009, 07:46 PM

I wouldn't mind a good single player story line with gorgeous unreal environments to back it up

. Honestly I think Epic Games are trying to hide something. Why would a hacker post something like "It's Unreal. And it's almost here" if he/she sucessfully hacked their web site. He/she could have have posted something like " This web site has been hacked" or "Owned" or "pawned" or something similar. In any case I doubt a hacker would post a message that would contain a message "almost here". The terms "almost here" make me believe something is cooking secretly at Epic Games. Either its the game Unreal 3 or a new engine - Unreal Engine 4.

JobivanHiob · 10-22-2009, 08:11 PM

now that should happen to DNF...

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it's Duke and he is almost here

btw: I guess it's their new Unreal Engine 4! the art looks like advertising a new engine.

Directx11 FTW hopefully!

crunchy superman · 10-22-2009, 08:11 PM

I'd be first in line for a proper Unreal 1 follow-up. Unfortunately, the days of games like that are gone forever, replaced by products for . . . . sigh . . . another audience.

Niap! · 10-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Its probably just something related to the next version of their Unreal Engine, I'd be really surprised if it was another Unreal sequel.

DerricktheW · 10-22-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kien

Btw if it is U3, how many of you cares if it has impressive graphics like the first game had? For me that couldn't matter less for me.

Thats all Epic cares about these days.

Damien_Azreal · 10-22-2009, 10:57 PM

Graphics are second or third IMO.
Solid, entertaining gameplay is always first. Followed by a decent story/setting.

If it is Unreal 3, I could be excited for it. I didn't like the first one, but I really enjoyed Unreal 2.

ZuljinRaynor · 10-22-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niap!

Its probably just something related to the next version of their Unreal Engine, I'd be really surprised if it was another Unreal sequel.

I don't think it can be UE4. It's a while away. 2012 is the estimated date IIRC.

Parkar · 10-23-2009, 05:24 AM

It's looking like a mistake by EPIC.

As mentioned, UE4 is a few years away, EPIC claimed they were not working on Unreal 3 earlier this year and UT is said to be on a "break".

Both the beyond unreal thread and the one on NeoGAF is gone now so it seems like EPIC want people forget this ever happened. Which makes you wonder if something is cooking just not ready to be announced yet. I mean they have 2 dev teams, one probably working on GOW3 so the other one has to be working on something, right?

ZaphodB · 10-23-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Graphics are second or third IMO.
Solid, entertaining gameplay is always first. Followed by a decent story/setting.

If it is Unreal 3, I could be excited for it. I didn't like the first one, but I really enjoyed Unreal 2.

I agree about graphics being 2nd or 3rd, but disagree with the latter part. LOVED Unreal & Return to Na Pali

, thought U2 was worse than used toilet paper

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Monkey Butler · 10-23-2009, 08:00 AM

I know this isn't it, but the line between the dark and light sections of that logo look kinda like what Apple does for its apps. Unreal on the iPhone?

NutWrench · 10-23-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kien

Random comment, I hated that they turned skaarjs into fat overmuscular orks in U2.

Same here. I thought they looked ridiculous.

Waiter · 10-23-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

I didn't like the first one, but I really enjoyed Unreal 2.

For me it was the complete opposite. The first game was something new. U2 was just an engine demo where they had completely lost the feeling from the first game.

Damien_Azreal · 10-23-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZaphodB

I agree about graphics being 2nd or 3rd, but disagree with the latter part. LOVED Unreal & Return to Na Pali

, thought U2 was worse than used toilet paper

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For me, the original Unreal started out really good.
But the the game just kept going and going, dragging on. Weapons looked cool, but felt very underwhelming to me. Which made the combat feel a bit lifeless.

They could've easily trimmed some sections out of levels, making the game's pacing much better.

Unreal 2.... yeah, it's not a triple A product. It's campy, cheesy and stupid. But that's why I love it. It tries to take itself so seriously, but it's so damn over the top.
It feels like you're playing the lead character in one of those crappy b-level science fiction movies they would play on TV, late Saturday night.

ZaphodB · 10-23-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

For me, the original Unreal started out really good.
But the the game just kept going and going, dragging on. Weapons looked cool, but felt very underwhelming to me. Which made the combat feel a bit lifeless.

They could've easily trimmed some sections out of levels, making the game's pacing much better.

The thing I liked most about the original unreal was there was more than one way to get through a lot of the levels, and I really enjoyed exploring it.

Kien · 10-23-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

For me, the original Unreal started out really good.
But the the game just kept going and going, dragging on. Weapons looked cool, but felt very underwhelming to me. Which made the combat feel a bit lifeless.

They could've easily trimmed some sections out of levels, making the game's pacing much better.

Unreal 2.... yeah, it's not a triple A product. It's campy, cheesy and stupid. But that's why I love it. It tries to take itself so seriously, but it's so damn over the top.
It feels like you're playing the lead character in one of those crappy b-level science fiction movies they would play on TV, late Saturday night.

Somehow I liked that even the less fun levels were long because it made you how to say... put your mind into that place. You don't just pass on to the next level quickly. Like wheny you are inte the toxic facility with the face pacing music and dodging of the rockets from the cyborg creatures it has it's own feel that place. When you reach the exit it really feels like you have come to something different. The only place that felt unecesseary was the Dasa pass/cellars. That's the place I don't remember much of. They could have made the skaarj ship a big more interresting. The lab area didn't look like some kind of lab at all. :S I liked that the game was long.

Return to Na Pali wasn't very good. Only real interresting place was the crashed ship I think.

Weapons were a big weak yes that bothered me a bit too. Especially rocket shooter and minigun. Only flakcannon and rifle had some real damage. Razorjack could sever heads but that was no easy task. I always wished one could use those blades to slash with.

My only real problems with U2 is the game was too short. Way too short. And there was no gibbing. It shouldn't be seen as a sequel to Unreal since it clearly was not. It just had a creature with the name skaarj (who could bloody block bullets with their wrist blades) from Unreal 1. Oh btw all weapons looks like they were made of solid steel chuncks with the weight of 50kg.

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Originally Posted by ZaphodB

The thing I liked most about the original unreal was there was more than one way to get through a lot of the levels, and I really enjoyed exploring it.

Exploring and non-linear levels was in many old games.

Those things are gone now. Anyway speaking of it, it wasn't untill like 3rd time I played the game untill I discovered the dungeons in the dark arena. :O Some weeks ago i discoverd a few new rooms in ISV Kran.

NutWrench · 10-23-2009, 12:47 PM

There's something very appealing about a game that's trying out something completely new for the first time. (Unreal, Deus Ex, Half-Life, etc). The developers are usually showcasing new technology and are charting completely unexplored territory, so they tend to take a lot more risks. They also tend to be new companies who are hungry for a hit.

I think once a franchise gets established and they start making sequels, developers tend to fall into "Hollywood" mode. The stories become much more predictable and formula-driven, they don't take risks as much. And you're building sequels on a universe that your audience is already familiar with.

DerricktheW · 10-23-2009, 03:25 PM

Watch them pull a Bioshock

Unreal 3; this time, YOU play as the Skaarj

Which, IMO, would be very, VERY qaudruple-asterisk-ing awesome

Running around and ripping people to shreds.

Hell, you could even have allies, and just annihilate the weaker civilizations.

Kien · 10-23-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DerricktheW

Hell, you could even have allies, and just annihilate the weaker civilizations.

I see one of the biggest things about Unreal is the lack of companions, allies. Player might meet some friendly nali but they don't follow him around or relly help him alot. They don't even speak the same language. Unreal is supposed to be lonly. :P

DerricktheW · 10-23-2009, 05:20 PM

I just wanna slaughter countless Nali with my squad of Skaarj riding Warcows. =)

Babe · 10-23-2009, 06:23 PM

As for me, I prefer Unreal and Return to Napali any day over Unreal 2. Unreal 2 is so lifeless and story-less I kept on just playing the next levels to see some "kool" looking maps or levels. I hope if they are working on Unreal 3, they do put in gorgeous envioronmenst like Unreal 2 but a bit more intense and involving story driven experience to drive through those epic envioronments one after another.

ZuljinRaynor · 10-23-2009, 06:27 PM

Unreal and Unreal 2 both suck. Hopefully if they make Unreal 3 it will be without suck. Or prehaps they can go and resurrect Jazz Jackrabbit finally.

Feared · 10-23-2009, 06:42 PM

I'm never excited by what Epic does anymore.
It's not like they care for us PC Gamers anymore, so why should I care about them?

They need to drop the unreal series and do something new.
( and I mean ALL UNREAL GAMES, yes that means tournament, championship, etc )

Damien_Azreal · 10-23-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Feared

They need to drop the unreal series and do something new.
( and I mean ALL UNREAL GAMES, yes that means tournament, championship, etc )

They did.
And it's for the Xbox only.

DerricktheW · 10-23-2009, 07:54 PM

Personally, I thought Unreal Championship 2 is the best Unreal Tournament/Championship game there is. UT2004 being a close second.

I wish they would make another UT/UC like it, and I don't specifically mean the melee, but in general.

Feared · 10-23-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

They did.
And it's for the Xbox only.

I'm sorry what?
Since when did they drop the unreal series?

Kristian Joensen · 10-23-2009, 09:20 PM

He is talking about Gears Of War.

Damien_Azreal · 10-23-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Feared

I'm sorry what?
Since when did they drop the unreal series?

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

He is talking about Gears Of War.

Yeah, I was mostly referring to them making something new.

Thief · 10-24-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kien

Weapons were a big weak yes that bothered me a bit too. Especially rocket shooter and minigun. Only flakcannon and rifle had some real damage. Razorjack could sever heads but that was no easy task. I always wished one could use those blades to slash with.

I actually think I ended up using the AutoMag (Enforcer) the most. Insta-hits from any range, pretty good rate of fire, spot-on accuracy...just a great weapon to chip away at enemies. ASMD Rifle was a beauty as well.

John · 10-24-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Yeah, I was mostly referring to them making something new.

Yeah that confused me a bit. Gears of War 1 went to PC aswell.

Superczar · 10-24-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kien

Btw if it is U3, how many of you cares if it has impressive graphics like the first game had? For me that couldn't matter less for me.

Everything have a neon glow impressed you?

Damien_Azreal · 10-24-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John

Yeah that confused me a bit. Gears of War 1 went to PC aswell.

It came to PC, but a year after it was released... and mostly because Microsoft wanted to cash in.

ZuljinRaynor · 10-24-2009, 03:13 PM

Well, I would like MS to cash in on Gears of War 2 then too.

Damien_Azreal · 10-24-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Well, I would like MS to cash in on Gears of War 2 then too.

Agreed.

DerricktheW · 10-25-2009, 03:43 PM

Gears is better than Gears 2 though.

I don't know why, I know there's so much more in Gears 2, but the original is just far superior IMO

Probably just better levels and the like.

dan2091 · 10-25-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Or prehaps they can go and resurrect Jazz Jackrabbit finally.

I've heard they've decided not to do it. But it would be great if they do Jazz Jackrabbit 3! Jazz has lot of potential. I loved both games, though I feel the second one is a little short.

Damien_Azreal · 10-25-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DerricktheW

Gears is better than Gears 2 though.

I don't know why, I know there's so much more in Gears 2, but the original is just far superior IMO

Probably just better levels and the like.

I would strongly disagree. Gears 2, IMO, is far superior. To me, the first game felt dull and boring after the first few levels.
Once you get over the visuals and combat... it all blurs together.

10-22-2009, 10:57 PM	#10
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Graphics are second or third IMO. Solid, entertaining gameplay is always first. Followed by a decent story/setting. If it is Unreal 3, I could be excited for it. I didn't like the first one, but I really enjoyed Unreal 2. __________________ I am... the LAW!

10-22-2009, 07:11 PM	#1
Parkar	It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Something interesting happend with the Epic hompage and forum for a short while. Seems like they are trying to cover it up now as form threads are aperantly being removed as soon as they are posted. Beyondunreal also pulled the news story so just this thread is left. http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=189029 Either some viral marketing, a mistake with their servers or they got hacked. Not sure what it is. __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

10-22-2009, 07:32 PM	#2
Kien	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Like they say on the forums, maybe it's demonstration of updated engine? Without clear proof I won't believe that they will get back to Unreal games again. UT3 is not Unreal game. If it would be a sequel to Unreal though, I have even less hope that it will be a true sequel. It will be something like Unreal 2. With the only connection to Unreal being the name and skaarjs. Random comment, I hated that they turned skaarjs into fat overmuscular orks in U2. __________________ I want protozoid slimers!

10-22-2009, 07:34 PM	#3
Babe	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. It sure is strange though that they keep on deleting all threads and topic without acknowledging that they have been hacked or they are up to something new. They just want to hide the something completely, trying to remove all traces of it ? Why what are they hiding. Here is the pic that they are desperately trying to hide Now I wouldn't min an Unreal III myself. If it is Unreal III, then bring it on. I am all for it !

10-22-2009, 07:41 PM	#4
Kien	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Btw if it is U3, how many of you cares if it has impressive graphics like the first game had? For me that couldn't matter less for me. __________________ I want protozoid slimers!

10-22-2009, 07:46 PM	#5
Babe	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. I wouldn't mind a good single player story line with gorgeous unreal environments to back it up . Honestly I think Epic Games are trying to hide something. Why would a hacker post something like "It's Unreal. And it's almost here" if he/she sucessfully hacked their web site. He/she could have have posted something like " This web site has been hacked" or "Owned" or "pawned" or something similar. In any case I doubt a hacker would post a message that would contain a message "almost here". The terms "almost here" make me believe something is cooking secretly at Epic Games. Either its the game Unreal 3 or a new engine - Unreal Engine 4.

10-22-2009, 08:11 PM	#7
crunchy superman	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. I'd be first in line for a proper Unreal 1 follow-up. Unfortunately, the days of games like that are gone forever, replaced by products for . . . . sigh . . . another audience. __________________ Atari collection

10-22-2009, 08:33 PM	#8
Niap!	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Its probably just something related to the next version of their Unreal Engine, I'd be really surprised if it was another Unreal sequel.

10-23-2009, 05:24 AM	#12
Parkar	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. It's looking like a mistake by EPIC. As mentioned, UE4 is a few years away, EPIC claimed they were not working on Unreal 3 earlier this year and UT is said to be on a "break". Both the beyond unreal thread and the one on NeoGAF is gone now so it seems like EPIC want people forget this ever happened. Which makes you wonder if something is cooking just not ready to be announced yet. I mean they have 2 dev teams, one probably working on GOW3 so the other one has to be working on something, right? __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

10-23-2009, 08:00 AM	#14
Monkey Butler	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. I know this isn't it, but the line between the dark and light sections of that logo look kinda like what Apple does for its apps. Unreal on the iPhone?

10-23-2009, 12:47 PM	#20
NutWrench	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. There's something very appealing about a game that's trying out something completely new for the first time. (Unreal, Deus Ex, Half-Life, etc). The developers are usually showcasing new technology and are charting completely unexplored territory, so they tend to take a lot more risks. They also tend to be new companies who are hungry for a hit. I think once a franchise gets established and they start making sequels, developers tend to fall into "Hollywood" mode. The stories become much more predictable and formula-driven, they don't take risks as much. And you're building sequels on a universe that your audience is already familiar with. __________________ "You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever"

10-23-2009, 03:25 PM	#21
DerricktheW	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Watch them pull a Bioshock Unreal 3; this time, YOU play as the Skaarj Which, IMO, would be very, VERY qaudruple-asterisk-ing awesome Running around and ripping people to shreds. Hell, you could even have allies, and just annihilate the weaker civilizations.

10-23-2009, 05:20 PM	#23
DerricktheW	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. I just wanna slaughter countless Nali with my squad of Skaarj riding Warcows. =)

10-23-2009, 06:23 PM	#24
Babe	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. As for me, I prefer Unreal and Return to Napali any day over Unreal 2. Unreal 2 is so lifeless and story-less I kept on just playing the next levels to see some "kool" looking maps or levels. I hope if they are working on Unreal 3, they do put in gorgeous envioronmenst like Unreal 2 but a bit more intense and involving story driven experience to drive through those epic envioronments one after another.

10-23-2009, 06:27 PM	#25
ZuljinRaynor	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Unreal and Unreal 2 both suck. Hopefully if they make Unreal 3 it will be without suck. Or prehaps they can go and resurrect Jazz Jackrabbit finally. __________________ Everything that was asked of us we've done, every night we lay in a filthy foxhole, praying the enemy won't slit our throats. Every day we spent crawling through the mud and the dirt while bullets whistle all around. This is the enemy's last stand. When we take Shuri Castle we go home. All of us. Deus Ex: Invisible War > Deus Ex

10-23-2009, 06:42 PM	#26
Feared	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. I'm never excited by what Epic does anymore. It's not like they care for us PC Gamers anymore, so why should I care about them? They need to drop the unreal series and do something new. ( and I mean ALL UNREAL GAMES, yes that means tournament, championship, etc ) Last edited by Feared; 10-23-2009 at 06:44 PM.

10-23-2009, 07:54 PM	#28
DerricktheW	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Personally, I thought Unreal Championship 2 is the best Unreal Tournament/Championship game there is. UT2004 being a close second. I wish they would make another UT/UC like it, and I don't specifically mean the melee, but in general.

10-23-2009, 09:20 PM	#30
Kristian Joensen	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. He is talking about Gears Of War. __________________ The Basic Law of the Danish Realm is perphaps one of the most irrelevant constitutional documents in the western world - Kári Á Rógvi, Cand.Jur, LL.M The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

10-24-2009, 03:13 PM	#36
ZuljinRaynor	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Well, I would like MS to cash in on Gears of War 2 then too. __________________ Everything that was asked of us we've done, every night we lay in a filthy foxhole, praying the enemy won't slit our throats. Every day we spent crawling through the mud and the dirt while bullets whistle all around. This is the enemy's last stand. When we take Shuri Castle we go home. All of us. Deus Ex: Invisible War > Deus Ex

10-25-2009, 03:43 PM	#38
DerricktheW	Re: It's Unreal. And it's almost here. Gears is better than Gears 2 though. I don't know why, I know there's so much more in Gears 2, but the original is just far superior IMO Probably just better levels and the like.