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Old 06-07-2008, 09:28 AM   #1601
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Speaking of shrink gun, looks like it's EDF tech in this version of the game. I kinda liked the 01 video version with it being alien based(I guess it could still be alien based) but I preferred the more "organic" look of it.
Yeah I thought the 2001 version looked very alien and organic, and very cool too. It makes me wonder if it is meant to be some EDF reverse engineered version, or it's still alien based and 3DRealms just didn't like the look of the old version. It'll still be fun to play with anyway.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:28 AM   #1602
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shrink an enemy, then eat him.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:31 AM   #1603
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Yeah I thought the 2001 version looked very alien and organic, and very cool too. It makes me wonder if it is meant to be some EDF reverse engineered version, or it's still alien based and 3DRealms just didn't like the look of the old version. It'll still be fun to play with anyway.
It was cool but I'm not particularly crazy about it either. Maybe I've never seen a shrinker model that has impressed me completely.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:55 AM   #1604
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this is still the only way for those that don't have a 360.
Not really. There is an HD option in the Crackle stream. Which, BTW they might frown upon redistribution of their video.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:59 AM   #1605
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Yeah I thought the 2001 version looked very alien and organic, and very cool too. It makes me wonder if it is meant to be some EDF reverse engineered version, or it's still alien based and 3DRealms just didn't like the look of the old version. It'll still be fun to play with anyway.
Just looking at the 2001 version now, and I do prefer that to the Portal Gun Bio Rifle looking thing thats currently in there. I much prefer the electricity that shoots out to the gree goo, and the brain inside the gun is just wicked!
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:04 AM   #1606
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thats personal opinion, the game isn't actually bad. its great
Of course it's personal opinion. People still supporting DNF for so long are mostly very big fans. As a member who's been in these forums for many years, I know what it is like to get so hyped from every half sentence that George posts here, and then see about ten new threads fill up within a few hours about that half sentence.

It has been like that forever, and I eventually stopped caring and decided to visit here from time to time instead of every few days.

Another personal opinion of mine would be that people here are fanboys, with both the good and the bad things that come with being a fanboy. Thus I think people are lying to themselves. Since I read what members wrote here, and I know many of them from the years over the forums, and I remember a few dissing games that look absolutely better than that gameplay footage we just saw. People are lying, they wont admit that it looks bad, they wont admit it to themselves. Hell, if it doesn't look bad to you, then at least don't say it looks amazing... how is all that amazing? I would guess just because it's DNF. If it wouldn't be DNF related people would say what it's really worth.


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if you think that looks bad than what do you think makes a game look good?
Many other things. Look, everyone is welcome to say what they want, I'm not stopping them. I just really want DNF to be great but that footage looks outdated (Yeah I know, 6 months old) maybe it is much better now, for then, like I said, it looks bad. But I've seen many trailers of games that were shown two years before their release and usually it's only detail that changes, there isn't a drastic change, most of the time it even looks worse.

A lot of games look good, I'm not a graphics freak. This though, looks bad. The weapons move like shooters from the 90s, everything seems to be floating around without any impact and the whole thing seems lifeless. Nothing impressive, how can anyone say that looked good, I really don't understand?

Again, I know it hardly showed anything, and I know it's old footage. But for what it showed, it showed crap.

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6months old footage, it doesn't look bad.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:09 AM   #1607
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I want to see screenshots. That would be cool. It was nice to see the footage, but high resolution screenies are much cooler... Here are the Screenies of the footage...
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:09 AM   #1608
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but until they do that, this is the only way you can get the video if you want to edit it, do frame by frame stuff. IF you just want to watch it in hd then yes you can just as easy do it on their site using the hd option. People like to be able to save stuff to their hard driver and I was happy to help with that. But if you don't like me to do taht, just say so.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:12 AM   #1609
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Of course it's personal opinion. People still supporting DNF for so long are mostly very big fans. As a member who's been in these forums for many years, I know what it is like to get so hyped from every half sentence that George posts here, and then see about ten new threads fill up within a few hours about that half sentence.

It has been like that forever, and I eventually stopped caring and decided to visit here from time to time instead of every few days.

Another personal opinion of mine would be that people here are fanboys, with both the good and the bad things that come with being a fanboy. Thus I think people are lying to themselves. Since I read what members wrote here, and I know many of them from the years over the forums, and I remember a few dissing games that look absolutely better than that gameplay footage we just saw. People are lying, they wont admit that it looks bad, they wont admit it to themselves. Hell, if it doesn't look bad to you, then at least don't say it looks amazing... how is all that amazing? I would guess just because it's DNF. If it wouldn't be DNF related people would say what it's really worth.




Many other things. Look, everyone is welcome to say what they want, I'm not stopping them. I just really want DNF to be great but that footage looks outdated (Yeah I know, 6 months old) maybe it is much better now, for then, like I said, it looks bad. But I've seen many trailers of games that were shown two years before their release and usually it's only detail that changes, there isn't a drastic change, most of the time it even looks worse.

A lot of games look good, I'm not a graphics freak. This though, looks bad. The weapons move like shooters from the 90s, everything seems to be floating around without any impact and the whole thing seems lifeless. Nothing impressive, how can anyone say that looked good, I really don't understand?

Again, I know it hardly showed anything, and I know it's old footage. But for what it showed, it showed crap.



Read above.
The footage isn't amazing, its not supposed to be. the fact that DNF is alive is amazing. The final product is what where so hyped about, plus a shakey cam with a random play like that for something thats 6 months old isn't going to do the game any justice. From what i've seen its awesome. The graphics are nice, the animations especially on the worm are hand crafted and beautiful. The guns like some of our favourites are back with next gen graphics. We got no sound, (all voice was put in by HD films) but trust me when we get the game and hear duke the shivers up the spine will come. I don't think its the actual footage thats awesome but what it could be, and what we haven't seen. But from what we've seen its pretty frickin good considering its shown in the worst possible way....
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:15 AM   #1610
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Worse than free?

I dunno. Charging points for something already freely available kinda sucks.

Cool ragdoll physics on the guy hanging near the red egg sacs.
I didn't mean in that sense, the PC version has ads on the page, although they are usually ignored or blocked, the author still atleast get money based per view.

What i meant in regards to the points is that some creditcard companies charge you for transactions, imagine a 20 cent fee on a $1 transaction, your fee would be 20% of the actual transaction.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:18 AM   #1611
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The footage isn't amazing, its not supposed to be. the fact that DNF is alive is amazing.
Why is that amazing? You didn't believe that it is being worked on? I always believed it will actually come out.

12 years passed. It would be pretty amazingly weird if they didn't managed to come out with a game in so much time.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:21 AM   #1612
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Why is that amazing? You didn't believe that it is being worked on? I always believed it will actually come out.

12 years passed. It would be pretty amazingly weird if they didn't managed to come out with a game in so much time.
you'd be surprised how many people think its all a hoax, well who's laughing now
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:28 AM   #1613
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Why don't you just download the torrent, it's easy to manipulate it on any video editor.
 
Old 06-07-2008, 10:35 AM   #1614
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Ok, next Screenies
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:35 AM   #1615
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People...I think we're not looking at the shrink ray here....Remember the Glop Gun in Manhattan project? It only converted enemies into their "normal state". For example a big lizard into a small lizard, a big cocodrile enemy into a regular croc, and so on. I think there probably is a Shrink/expander and a Glop Gun.
 
Old 06-07-2008, 10:36 AM   #1616
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And the last one...
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:41 AM   #1617
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"You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" hyperbole, as far as I'm concerned.
Jason Hall is a clearly biased party in this.

Not that I dislike him, I thought he had a very natural presence in front of the camera, but IMO this first Jace Hall show was complete fluff (DNF part included).
As nice a guy as Jace is, I can't help but agree. I can't see myself wanting to tune in every episode unless he becomes the 'exclusive' guy with stuff like this (which I doubt).
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:50 AM   #1618
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There are two specific reasons I'm hyped.
1. Battle Lords - in high graphics = awesome
2. Babes - in high graphics = awesome

Bonus: Good AI and interactivity.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:52 AM   #1619
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I made the torrent.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:11 AM   #1620
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People...I think we're not looking at the shrink ray here....Remember the Glop Gun in Manhattan project? It only converted enemies into their "normal state". For example a big lizard into a small lizard, a big cocodrile enemy into a regular croc, and so on. I think there probably is a Shrink/expander and a Glop Gun.
Nah, he shrinks that bug into a smaller size, not into a different form. I very much doubt thats a take on the GLOPP gun.


In any event I love the Portal vibe of it.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:16 AM   #1621
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People...I think we're not looking at the shrink ray here....Remember the Glop Gun in Manhattan project? It only converted enemies into their "normal state". For example a big lizard into a small lizard, a big cocodrile enemy into a regular croc, and so on. I think there probably is a Shrink/expander and a Glop Gun.
I doubt that any normal animal is not taller than Duke's boot.

It's definitely the Shrinkray, "unfortunately" the design doesn't really resemble the original much But hey, in the past I did say that I hope DNF won't be just Duke3D with better graphics so I guess I have to be consequent in my opinions.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:19 AM   #1622
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:22 AM   #1623
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Well if anything...we can see slime or "glop" coming out of it in the video. Also it has a huge canister of Glop attached
 
Old 06-07-2008, 11:33 AM   #1624
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Ripper gun rules! Enemy looks great (pig cop is awesome). If DNF have feel of this what was presented in 2001 E3 plus this what was in this footage - that game will smash other FPP titles
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:33 AM   #1625
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LOL what is this:

Sex glasses?






jk it looks like parental controls I think.
I think it's S3D, as in stereoscopic 3D. The icon is a pair of glasses, and anaglyph, shutter or polarizing glasses are indeed used for stereoscopic 3D.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:58 AM   #1626
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All that Joe is saying is that taking somebody else's content and redistribute it is in fact illegal. Since it's 3DR's forum, this might not be the best place for this one.
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:23 PM   #1627
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I don't charge for it and it is freely available at the site at all time so I don't see the illegal here, I simply give it to the people in a way to save duke to their hard drive. And Joe did link to a youtube clip that had only the duke stuff in it.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:26 PM   #1628
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i just watched the 2001 trailer AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN ! this whole trailer is one of the BEST i've seen in my whole gamer life and thats nearly 20 years now.

we just saw 30 seconds of low quality duke gameplay and i know we cannot judge at all but i do hope that my fears will be vanished, because i fear a bit some points:

- too many dark areas like prey
- a bit consolish
- a bit monotonous look perhaps?
- not so colourful and/or so many different scenes?

well it's too much speculation, i should have left it out perhaps but just look at a few 2001 pics which still impress me more than the little gameplay.






i'm just too fearful that my wait and dream isnt perfect
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:33 PM   #1629
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i just watched the 2001 trailer AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN ! this whole trailer is one of the BEST i've seen in my whole gamer life and thats nearly 20 years now.

we just saw 30 seconds of low quality duke gameplay and i know we cannot judge at all but i do hope that my fears will be vanished, because i fear a bit some points:

- too many dark areas like prey
- a bit consolish
- a bit monotonous look perhaps?
- not so colourful and/or so many different scenes?

well it's too much speculation, i should have left it out perhaps but just look at a few 2001 pics which still impress me more than the little gameplay.

i'm just too fearful that my wait and dream isnt perfect
George already said that theres going to be multiple different times of day, indoor and outdoor areas filled with sunlight.

the game is made for PC so its not consolish. monstrous i have no idea what that means, if by that you mean scary then hell yess

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Old 06-07-2008, 01:35 PM   #1630
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Fear not Caine... What we saw was only a tiny glimpse at one of the levels in DNF. I'm sure the game will kick some major a$$ in all aspects.

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Old 06-07-2008, 01:40 PM   #1631
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thanks dukies you took my fear a bit and i think the next trailer will blow my mind !

ALWAYS BET ON DUKE !
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:40 PM   #1632
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i just watched the 2001 trailer AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN ! this whole trailer is one of the BEST i've seen in my whole gamer life and thats nearly 20 years now.

we just saw 30 seconds of low quality duke gameplay and i know we cannot judge at all but i do hope that my fears will be vanished, because i fear a bit some points:

- too many dark areas like prey
- a bit consolish
- a bit monotonous look perhaps?
- not so colourful and/or so many different scenes?

well it's too much speculation, i should have left it out perhaps but just look at a few 2001 pics which still impress me more than the little gameplay.
The 2001 trailer was a fully polished piece of work. The Jace Hall footage is NOT a fully polished trailer. It's really unfair to compare the two.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:54 PM   #1633
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i just watched the 2001 trailer AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN ! this whole trailer is one of the BEST i've seen in my whole gamer life and thats nearly 20 years now.

we just saw 30 seconds of low quality duke gameplay and i know we cannot judge at all but i do hope that my fears will be vanished, because i fear a bit some points:

- too many dark areas like prey
- a bit consolish
- a bit monotonous look perhaps?
- not so colourful and/or so many different scenes?

well it's too much speculation, i should have left it out perhaps but just look at a few 2001 pics which still impress me more than the little gameplay.

i'm just too fearful that my wait and dream isnt perfect
Well George already addressed some of that in this thread, look at some of the quotes(taken from this thread) here.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #1634
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The 2001 trailer was a fully polished piece of work. The Jace Hall footage is NOT a fully polished trailer. It's really unfair to compare the two
Then give us something to compare it too.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #1635
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The 2001 trailer was a fully polished piece of work. The Jace Hall footage is NOT a fully polished trailer. It's really unfair to compare the two.
I have to agree with Joe. What i saw wasnt a trailer and it shouldnt be compared to the 2001 trailer.

Personally i love the 2001 trailer, and i remember a 1998(I think) a trailer also. But i think if we are going to be making any comparisons then we really need wait until an official 2008 trailer comes out.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #1636
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I think the "new" shrink ray reminds me too much of this Prey gun:



Just imo.
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:58 PM   #1637
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Well George already addressed some of that in this thread, look at some of the quotes(taken from this thread) here.
Exactly, and i wouldn't expect a level set inside the hoover dam to be particularly colorful.
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And the last one...
It looks like the shrink gun and Duke's leg having clipping issues.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:01 PM   #1639
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The 2001 trailer was a fully polished piece of work. The Jace Hall footage is NOT a fully polished trailer. It's really unfair to compare the two.
I hold out hope that maybe you guys will top that trailer some day. Though honestly, people would probably still bitch and complain.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:05 PM   #1640
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Yeah, also it's fairly hard to top the 2001 trailer - It's simply the best trailer in gaming history.
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