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Old 12-23-2009, 07:17 PM   #1
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George Broussard
I don't hate you, nor blame you for being impressed with new technology and wanting it to be in DNF. I just really wish I had a real 3d realms developed duke game. We have all been waiting for 12 years. Seriously. Duke3D was the first video game I ever played and I'm sure many people are in the same boat. If you released Tetris with the grabbag song in the back ground, and called it duke nukem forever, we would all buy it. People can deny it if they want, but we just want something new. Seriously. I would rather play the old builds of DNF than Crysis2, Killzone2, the COD Franchise, or Gaylo.


******* a dude, just release slinging shit on a stick and call it duketurd. I promise it would ******* sale.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:26 PM   #2
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Gaylo.
Nice. Well though-out reasoning, too.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:29 PM   #3
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I agree.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:24 PM   #4
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I don't hate you, nor blame you for being impressed with new technology and wanting it to be in DNF. I just really wish I had a real 3d realms developed duke game. We have all been waiting for 12 years. Seriously. Duke3D was the first video game I ever played and I'm sure many people are in the same boat. If you released Tetris with the grabbag song in the back ground, and called it duke nukem forever, we would all buy it. People can deny it if they want, but we just want something new. Seriously. I would rather play the old builds of DNF than Crysis2, Killzone2, the COD Franchise, or Gaylo.


******* a dude, just release slinging shit on a stick and call it duketurd. I promise it would ******* sale.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:43 PM   #5
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Hmm... DukeTurd... I think I have DooMTurd and QuakeTurd already, so that makes sense. <rolls eyes>

Passion without thought is annoying to me. Whatever. I knew I should not have clicked on this thread.

I think most anyone here would have liked a Duke Nukem game developed by 3D Realms... even if it wasn't epic. Cult followings on the scale of that of Duke Nukem 3D supersede the need for perfection as would be defined by George B... sometimes fun doesn't have to be perfect. (or Awesome, or KickAss, or whatever adjective was trying to be achieved by 3D Realms) George and others apparently lost sight of that... or that is what appears to have happened.

If the fans would settle for just anything (like DukeTurd) we would still be satisfied with TC's and add-ons for Duke Nukem 3D... and thousands of us still do enjoy these. More, better, etc would be (or would have been) great, but I don't think the fans demanded it, it was a choice by 3D Realms... in which George B seems to be getting all the blame for.

Quake II was a big step over Quake... Quake 3... I am not even going to start, most of us know how it went. Ending it here.

The point I believe is that a new epic (in terms of content) game is always great, but it isn't really required. 3D Realms chose the Epic path and that can be a really tall order sometimes.

I could be wrong, but I think the fans would have been satisfied with two or three "good" progressions between the next "epic" installment of the Duke Nukem series.

As for Shit on a Stick and DukeTurd, I don't think it is quite that simple.

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:22 AM   #6
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i don't think 3dr team lost sight of anything
what I completely support what George is doing
Especially with the right reasons
If you don't have a passion for creating games I don't see how anyone could understand any of this
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:29 AM   #7
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If you released Tetris with the grabbag song in the back ground, and called it duke nukem forever, we would all buy it.
NO we wouldn't

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:33 AM   #8
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I think most anyone here would have liked a Duke Nukem game developed by 3D Realms... even if it wasn't epic.
I would have never registered on this board if it wasn't for the massive potential I saw in the game back then.
The epic nature of the older media and the plans 3DR had for the game were the reasons for my interest, anything less and I would have just shrugged my shoulders.

My 'problem' with Mr. Broussard is not that he dreamt big; it's that he obviously didn't have the management quality to turn his grand dream into reality (and perhaps reshape it to fit reality), either by direct control over the game or by taking a more hands-off approach and appointing the type of sub-management that was eventually installed in 2007.
What is a project lead if not a decision maker?
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:38 AM   #9
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yap 3D Realms might be included into managment books as an axample, what bad managment leads to
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:16 PM   #10
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I don't hate the guy either but he deserved to be bashed by me for not having the game done. In conclusion George, finish the game and do what it takes.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:21 PM   #11
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I could be wrong, but I think the fans would have been satisfied with two or three "good" progressions between the next "epic" installment of the Duke Nukem series.
^ you mean like valve did the half life series? episode 1 2 and hopefully a 3?

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NO we wouldn't



No I wouldn't


I would. That's just me though. And I'm sure one or two people would agree with me.

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I don't hate the guy either but he deserved to be bashed by me for not having the game done. In conclusion George, finish the game and do what it takes.
This.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:27 PM   #12
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I, like everyone else, blame George for ******* up on a monumental scale. But do I hate him for it? Hell no, he was just trying to make the best game ever. But at the end of the day, sometimes you just have to accept what you have.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:39 PM   #13
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I blame Duke Nukem for not picking a more capable agent.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:42 PM   #14
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:04 PM   #15
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Captain Planet is a shitty agent.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:23 PM   #16
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I dunno, he was generally pretty good at getting things done. Except in 2-part episodes where Captain Pollution would **** up the world and it would look like nothing could save us, but then Captain Planet would still manage to get it done by the end of part 2. Ah, the 90s.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:32 PM   #17
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He fights pollution yet his weakness it pollution. Shitty hero.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:27 PM   #18
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sigh.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:42 PM   #19
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He fights pollution yet his weakness it pollution. Shitty hero.
Never thought about it that way.
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:07 AM   #20
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He fights pollution yet his weakness it pollution. Shitty hero.
So... he really isn't fighting pollution to save the planet he's really just fighting for his life.
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Old 12-25-2009, 12:45 PM   #21
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He fights pollution yet his weakness it pollution. Shitty hero.
But he succeeds at it.

Well, in theory anyways.

Like Smokey the Bear
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:05 PM   #22
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So... he really isn't fighting pollution to save the planet he's really just fighting for his life.
Yeah, if you look past the surface, it's really a show about a man struggling to survive in a hostile world, wanting him dead.

FASCINATING.
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:08 PM   #23
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Yeah, if you look past the surface, it's really a show about a man struggling to survive in a hostile world, wanting him dead.

FASCINATING.
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:21 PM   #24
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Movie remake of The Karate Kid? Looks really horrible. http://bit.ly/4Y8KgG Good lord. I can't care about Will Smith's kid. 3 minutes ago from TweetDeck

Well we just needed that didn't we.
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:23 PM   #25
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IT IS HIS PERSONAL TWITTER

STOP BEING RETARDS

SERIOUSLY

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Old 12-25-2009, 01:26 PM   #26
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Just pointing out that there were several Christmas-related hints, and what we're getting on Christmas is... a Karate Kid trailer? Really?
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:31 PM   #27
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IT IS HIS PERSONAL TWITTER

STOP BEING RETARDS

SERIOUSLY

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STOP BEING RETARDS

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STOP BEING RETARDS

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Old 12-25-2009, 02:07 PM   #28
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georgeb3dr

Movie remake of The Karate Kid? Looks really horrible. http://bit.ly/4Y8KgG Good lord. I can't care about Will Smith's kid. 3 minutes ago from TweetDeck

Well we just needed that didn't we.
They're remaking Duke Nukem and it's not going to be horrible.

A guy named Will Gif is going to make an appearance and Duke's not going to care about him.

The subtle hints were obvious.
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Old 12-25-2009, 02:10 PM   #29
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DerricktheW is on to something here!
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Old 12-25-2009, 03:03 PM   #30
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I like this Derrick guy. He knows stuff.
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Old 12-25-2009, 03:47 PM   #31
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IT IS HIS PERSONAL TWITTER

STOP BEING RETARDS

SERIOUSLY

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This is a joke, look at my post icon...

BUT i'VE BEEN WAITING HALF MY LIFE FOR DNF!

GEORGE OWES IT TO ME!

HOW DARE HE HAVE PERSONAL INTERESTS WHEN i HAVE NO LIFE?

GEORGE BETRAYED MY FAITH IN 3DREALMS! IF DNF WAS A RELIGION IN THE MIDDLE AGES, IT WOULD BE LEGAL FOR US TO BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!

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...well, that's what a lot of the posts in the DNF forum look like to me...
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:06 PM   #32
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OK... Scotty MILLER!!

Dun Dun DUUUNN!
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:17 PM   #33
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Why is the new movie called The Karate Kid if it's set in China?
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:53 PM   #34
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Why is the new movie called The Karate Kid if it's set in China?
Thus my biggest question. It should be called KUNG FU KID.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:51 PM   #35
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Same reason that 3DR released a game about a katana wielding, shuriken throwing ninja with a Chinese name.
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:13 PM   #36
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Same reason that 3DR released a game about a katana wielding, shuriken throwing ninja with a Chinese name.
For shits and giggles?

No, I think there's just pure ignorance in this.
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