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Old 10-17-2005, 05:57 AM   #1
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What kinda levels do you like the best?
Indside or outside (I like outside the best)
What enviroment do you like the best?
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:08 AM   #2
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Whoever voted before me, he voted the exact same ting..!
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:21 AM   #3
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Whoever voted before me, he voted the exact same ting..!
Looks like another one did too, but I didn't. o/
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:37 AM   #4
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I have no preferences about this. I just like games.
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:33 AM   #5
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In Duke3d I like the city levels.

In other games I like other kinds of levels.

Duke is specifically for city levels.
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:37 AM   #6
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I chose city and outside.. but I wouldnt like to be limited to cities and outside.. Its nice to have a city, but to be able to go inside buuildings is beter, not all building(would be great but long to do..unless the indide are done like in daggerfall or something ).. I hate to have my way blocked by an invulnerable wooden door, or a gate that we cannot climb.. or worst(cause there's worst in some games)

I like underground levels too, and space ships and all.. but often, the levels are just made to be made.. like, the rooms are meaningless..sometime so meaningless that you can forget inside what kind of building you are..
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:43 AM   #7
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I have no preference of outside and inside, I believe every game should have both.
but the theme I prefer most is claustrophobic metallic environments (doom 3, duke nukem episode 2, sin's sewer levels, no one lives forever's docks and freight ship levels, ...)
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:03 AM   #8
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I voted for city levels - not because they're my favorites, but because they looked really good in the 2001 Trailer
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:28 AM   #9
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Being as tho DNF was supposed to take place in Las Vegas, for sure it'll be a city-based game, and I'd be conservative to say that because Vegas has casinos, some of the maps will be indoors, or strip clubs as well, those sorts of things. As for the outdoor stuff, well, you have the Las Vegas Strip outdoors, as well as Hoover Dam. Outside of that, I really can't describe anything else as of this point in time.
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:49 AM   #10
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An outside strip club with a thunderstorm would be nice
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:55 AM   #11
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Being as tho DNF was supposed to take place in Las Vegas, for sure it'll be a city-based game, and I'd be conservative to say that because Vegas has casinos, some of the maps will be indoors, or strip clubs as well, those sorts of things. As for the outdoor stuff, well, you have the Las Vegas Strip outdoors, as well as Hoover Dam. Outside of that, I really can't describe anything else as of this point in time.
mines? (includes grand canyon)
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:57 AM   #12
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Right, but I thought that the Grand Canyon was more towards Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado area, which is a few hundred miles away from Vegas. Well, I guess that can be done, why not?
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:58 AM   #13
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I guess I'm one of the rare guys who loves space levels. These were my favourite in Duke 3D and I think only Jedi Knight surpassed them in terms of creativity and ingeniosity.
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:02 PM   #14
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I love...everything, when itīs fun of course
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:44 PM   #15
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I wanted to choose a combination of the first and second one. Not the really creepy stuff but, subways are cool Doesn't have to be creepy but I love dirty subways with tiles you can shoot off the walls etc...
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:06 PM   #16
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I liked DN3D's space levels the most too
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:33 PM   #17
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I guess I'm one of the rare guys who loves space levels. These were my favourite in Duke 3D and I think only Jedi Knight surpassed them in terms of creativity and ingeniosity.
concurred.

totally loved the space levels in duke and it really set the game apart from other games imho. besides, you could use the jetpack.

hopefully we'll see a return to space levels in dnf. i'd love to see a level set in zero g with stuff being kicked around in a weightless environment.

p.s. they better be making an underwater level or 2 also.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:37 PM   #18
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George already answered your questions about underwater areas in DNF.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:39 PM   #19
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George already answered your questions about underwater areas in DNF.
ugh i don't know if he was kidding or not.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:42 PM   #20
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Why would he be kidding ?
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:43 PM   #21
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Why would he be kidding ?
Because it's George.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:44 PM   #22
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Why would he be kidding ?
Because it's George.
could have been a "yeah, we'll get riiiiiiiiiight on that underwater level for ya kaiser!" reply.

though really george has always been pretty up front with me, eh?

i guess we'll have to wait and see?!

when george releases media, show us an underwater level pic.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:48 PM   #23
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But he said there would be parts of level(s?) not level or leves of underwater areas that was my point.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:52 PM   #24
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But he said there would be parts of level(s?) not level or leves of underwater areas that was my point.
well i think they need to do full blown underwater levels, so they can get busy doing that besides watching the pron and eating pizza.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:43 PM   #25
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But he said there would be parts of level(s?) not level or leves of underwater areas that was my point.
well i think they need to do full blown underwater levels, so they can get busy doing that besides watching the pron and eating pizza.
Yeah, I don't expect another E3L2 out of them, that was all mainly underwater, hence "Flood Zone." As for space levels, I wouldn't mind seeing one or two, but not a whole episode like Duke 3D had. Duke's a city dude, get used to that, will ya?
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:34 PM   #26
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But he said there would be parts of level(s?) not level or leves of underwater areas that was my point.
well i think they need to do full blown underwater levels, so they can get busy doing that besides watching the pron and eating pizza.
No thanks, hate levels that are timed! "Do it in two minutes or else you die"! They suck
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:22 AM   #27
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An outside strip club with a thunderstorm would be nice
Yeah, and lots of girls in short skirts and tight t-shirts right .
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:32 AM   #28
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An outside strip club with a thunderstorm would be nice
Yeah, and lots of girls in short skirts and tight t-shirts right .
That said, WE WANT OUTDOOR STRIP CLUB'S 3DR!!!
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:50 AM   #29
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An outside strip club with a thunderstorm would be nice
No that would be bad, the strippers would get very wet from the rain and they may fall in slippery mud and have to wrestle eachother to get up. Very bad indeed..

BTW the city levels were by far my favorite in Duke 3d so I hope a good chunk of DNF will be in the city.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:00 AM   #30
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Outdoor levels give the essence of space and mobility, to seek for cover (jungle, although not Duke style), being badly ambushed, or just explore and admire large scale scenery (most in Las Vegas).

Indoor levels like sewers and Half-Life style levels arenīt so fun. Unless they are big and diversified they just have one or two ways to go and the ambush/surprise attacks are often predictible. Plus, it gets annoying needing the flashlight too much.
The only thing in favor is the impression of being ambushed at every second and wet your pants every time it happens due to the creepy environment, but this can be done with scary monsters (like the Pig Cop reference in the FAQ), no need of scary levels.
Even though every game needs some indoor creepy levels.
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:34 AM   #31
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Damn, I like all sorts of levels!
Lots of options only one choice.

City levels are definitely the Duke, but space levels, desert areas/ghost towns are what will help diversify him. Hopefully there'll be lots of variety.
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:40 AM   #32
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Deathmatches? Smaller levels where you just blow the living hell out of everything and watch the gib-a-thon commence.

SP Levels? Can't put a price on the creativity neccessary to satiate my appetite for the innovative. I enjoy the wow factor of a level design... Make it intricate, and interesting. Make the level a presence, with ambiance and substance.

The level should, IMHO, bleed.
 
Old 10-19-2005, 11:20 AM   #33
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Yes, most certainly my favorite maps for DukeMatches, if those exist, would be in the outdoorsy, nature-type levels. These were big for UT 2004, and for Shadow Warrior, and others. However, space maps are even better yet for DukeMatching. City maps are more for coop or single player, IMHO. As always, it's 3DR's decision as far as what types of maps are best for Duke.
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Old 10-19-2005, 12:33 PM   #34
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All aspects of a city. residential, commercial and industrial. I also like subways and aqua ducts or sewers. Space stations are also a favorite.
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:42 PM   #35
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Tough call.... I tend to prefer a mix depending on the game.

Obviously Max Payne would not have worked well in an open desert, very little cover.

The important thing imo in most situations is a good mixture of open spaces and cover, not too much of one or the other.

Some things I DON'T like in levels:

Dead or useless doors that are locked for no apparent reason, especially if they don't TELL YOU that they are locked. In other words, doors that only exist for decoration.

I also hate almost any object that should be even minimally interactive but only exists for decoration.
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:49 PM   #36
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I voted for other. My vote would have been "don't care".
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Old 10-19-2005, 02:39 PM   #37
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I voted for other as well. I think the coolest idea sofar was the Duke levels with the flooded city - citylevels, but under water.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:24 PM   #38
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I voted for other. My vote would have been "don't care".
...You don't care about the ambientation in a game? I feel it's what greatly defines the enjoyement of the atmosphere of a determined level, helping the player immerse himself more and consequently have more fun.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:30 PM   #39
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my favorite levels are open city levels.
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