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Old 06-19-2009, 05:58 AM   #81
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Re: 3D Realms Online Store overhaul
Now I realize. Of course it's not a DOS game; BOS is Balls of Steels after all
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:28 AM   #82
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I might buy Wolf3D, a game made by 3DRealms
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #83
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I might buy Wolf3D, a game made by 3DRealms
Huh? Wolf3D wasn't made by Apogee/3DR.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:05 AM   #84
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Come on, you sell it so it's yours
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:55 AM   #85
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Come on, you sell it so it's yours
By that logic, Gears of War, Halo, Starcraft, Call of Duty, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and any other game sold in BestBuy was made by them.
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:06 PM   #86
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These just "run". There's nothing you have to do as such.

Except of course if you changed the default install directory. If you tried to install inside C:\Program Files, it won't work on Vista. Forget it. Vista doesn't let you do that.

i install stuff to my program files dir all the time

i'm on vista64

Code:
C:\Program Files>dir /w
 Volume in drive C is Vista64
 Volume Serial Number is C87A-433F

 Directory of C:\Program Files

[.]                     [..]                    [ASUS]
[ATKGFNEX]              [Common Files]          [Dolby]
[Internet Explorer]     [Microsoft Games]       [Microsoft Office]
[Movie Maker]           [MSBuild]               [P4G]
[RealVNC]               [Reference Assemblies]  [Symantec]
[Synaptics]             [Ventrilo]              [WINAMP]
[Windows Calendar]      [Windows Collaboration] [Windows Defender]
[Windows Journal]       [Windows Mail]          [Windows Media Player]
[Windows NT]            [Windows Photo Gallery] [Windows Sidebar]
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:36 PM   #87
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try looking in "C:\Program Files (x86)" in Vista64 and Win 7(64)
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:17 PM   #88
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Come on, you sell it so it's yours
Apogee was id's publisher they do not own wolf 3d or commander keen. apogee owns very few ip's.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:25 AM   #89
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So why is it sold on 3DRealms like it was their game?
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:31 AM   #90
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So why is it sold on 3DRealms like it was their game?
Because they are the publishers.

Activision sells Quake 3 & Doom 3 which are also developed by id software. Same deal.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:03 AM   #91
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I totally understand. But I've always had the feeling that 3DRealms considers Wolf3D as their own game... I've even read (probably on these forums) that someone from 3DR was the main brain behind Wolf3D, which isn't true IMO.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:11 AM   #92
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If the games run too fast on your computer (or don't run at all - even if DosBox is used) you may try "VDMSound" which is made to make old games run on new systems.

VDMSound 2.1.0
http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/so...Sound2.1.0.zip

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Old 06-21-2009, 12:11 PM   #93
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*VDMsound won't help on 64bit systems since there is no 16 bit support

*Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think VDMsound would work with Balls of Steel since it's not a dos game, which most of this discussion has centered around

Also, the majority of the games use a default DOSbox config with minor tweaks, which should be enough, and Joe has tested tested them for sure.

Which reminds me, is there a solution in place for the Crystal Caves overscan border issue? discussed here
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:02 PM   #94
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i install stuff to my program files dir all the time
Don't install the DOSBox Apogee/3DR game installs there. THEY WON'T WORK.

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I totally understand. But I've always had the feeling that 3DRealms considers Wolf3D as their own game... I've even read (probably on these forums) that someone from 3DR was the main brain behind Wolf3D, which isn't true IMO.
No. You are wrong about that.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:50 AM   #95
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A note about Shadow Warrior.

The file from the registered store has been updated to include the CD Audio, via ogg compressed files. If you buy the game now, you will get it with the CD Audio enabled.

If you bought Shadow Warrior from our store between June 5 and July 9, 2009, there's an update file for you. Download this, and install it to the same directory the game is installed to, and you'll get the CD audio. Note: It will overwrite your DOSBox config file, so if you've made any sort of changes to the settings, you'll need to back up yours first before installing this.

There you go. Some more work on this project after I've been out of work now for 6 weeks.
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:51 PM   #96
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i wonder if you can get paid as a freelance for this work.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:26 PM   #97
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Joe... Did you know you know you are one hell of an awesome person?

You are, you know. Thanks.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:45 PM   #98
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A note about Shadow Warrior.

The file from the registered store has been updated to include the CD Audio, via ogg compressed files. If you buy the game now, you will get it with the CD Audio enabled.

If you bought Shadow Warrior from our store between June 5 and July 9, 2009, there's an update file for you. Download this, and install it to the same directory the game is installed to, and you'll get the CD audio. Note: It will overwrite your DOSBox config file, so if you've made any sort of changes to the settings, you'll need to back up yours first before installing this.

There you go. Some more work on this project after I've been out of work now for 6 weeks.
Thank you, Joe! You're an awesome guy!
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:12 PM   #99
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Thank Qbix from DOSBox too. He helped a lot.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:52 PM   #100
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If anyone happens to solve the speed problem with BOS on Vista 32bit, please share! Setting up a virtual machine is a bit of a pain.

Not sure why but setting compatibility to Win95 worked.. once. Then setting it to Win2k worked, once. Makes me want to revert back to XP just for the sake of this game!
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:12 PM   #101
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If anyone happens to solve the speed problem with BOS on Vista 32bit, please share! Setting up a virtual machine is a bit of a pain.

Not sure why but setting compatibility to Win95 worked.. once. Then setting it to Win2k worked, once. Makes me want to revert back to XP just for the sake of this game!
Works fine on my Vista 32bit machine at home. No special anything.
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:22 PM   #102
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Just downloaded Ultimate ROTT.

I was wondering if there are any user levels among the "tons and tons" of user stuff, cause I can't find any user levels in the directory
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Old 07-27-2009, 05:10 AM   #103
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Excellent work, Joseph!
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:36 AM   #104
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I was wondering if there are any user levels among the "tons and tons" of user stuff, cause I can't find any user levels in the directory
I didn't put user levels in there. There's user LEVEL EDITORS, but not levels themselves.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:41 AM   #105
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I didn't put user levels in there. There's user LEVEL EDITORS, but not levels themselves.
Joe, in your opinion, what was the best user level and/or level pack ever made? And where could I get it?
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:54 PM   #106
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I don't have an opinion on that.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:15 AM   #107
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Little question, Joe.

Did you base your Duke3D download build on the GOG.com one, or start from scratch with original CD files?

Just I purchased the GOG version recently and noticed their patched DUKE3D.EXE matched the checksum of a cracked exe made from using a pretty common No-CD crack (not to mention they included a blank CDROM.INI), lol. So is the 3DR version exactly the same in this case? Having already a CD original and the GOG download, I'm not very inclined to also purchase 3DR's build just to find this out for myself.

Thanks!
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:50 AM   #108
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I really don't remember what I did right now to be honest.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:26 AM   #109
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I see. Well, hopefully someone here who did purchase the 3DR download can confirm for me.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:59 AM   #110
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md5sum of duke3d.exe
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3b74fa59466c319535c57169b18b2140  DUKE3D.EXE
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:34 AM   #111
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Yeah, matches the GOG one, thought so. Thanks for the tip, Qbix.


Part of me did wonder whether it would be uniquely cracked from scratch when re-released, say to possibly get rid of the CDROM.INI dependency. There's a cracked EXE for Death Rally which does just that.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:51 AM   #112
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I did wonder too.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:07 PM   #113
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it is not really a crack if the publisher alters the file. there had to be two versions of the exe a drmed version and a non drm copy.
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Old 08-16-2009, 05:09 PM   #114
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Is it just me or does the Store link now redirect to GoDaddy?
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:44 PM   #115
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You're right. Strange.
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Old 08-16-2009, 08:59 PM   #116
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to buy the games go to the profile pages under the games link and click the buy now icon it goes directly to the stores checkout page. only the main page is down.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:46 AM   #117
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Thanks for the suggestion. I wasn't actually intending to buy anything at this moment in time, but I wanted to toss a reminder that the main promoted link wasn't acting the way it's supposed to be, to those who are interested.

BTW, if anyone's interested also, you can find an alternate patched EXE for Death Rally on this page (scroll to the bottom and look towards the top of the screen to spot it). Aside from cracking the CD check, this EXE has a couple more advantages over the more basic crack in existence...

1) The CDROM.INI dependency is eliminated so that you don't even need the file,
2) You can start or continue a game much more "cleanly" (in other words, no "Insert CD-ROM" window flashing briefly for a nanosecond accompanied by a honking horn effect).




And last but not least..... if anyone would prefer a full lossless Shadow Warrior soundtrack to use with the game, I could create a BIN/CUE containing the music only (ripped from an original SW CD), write a replacement DOSBox config to use with it, zip it and up it somewhere if there's demand for it. Only question is: would Mr Siegler (and co?) be cool with this?
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:17 PM   #118
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personally i want gog.com to get shadow warrior and give us a download sound track option. also i really hope that the wolfenstine 3d hint book goes back up for sale i have been waiting to get one.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:38 PM   #119
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Maybe if it did get onto GOG the 3DR store might drop its own price in response. I don't know who decided on SW being $10 compared to almost everything else being $6, nor do I understand the reasoning behind it. Is it based on how recent a game is? Like games in '97 or later are pricier?
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:27 AM   #120
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i really hope that the wolfenstine 3d hint book goes back up for sale i have been waiting to get one.
It might be a good idea to include a PDF of this with the Wolf 3D download, as it's quite interesting and very helpful with the less linear levels of the game.

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I don't know who decided on SW being $10 compared to almost everything else being $6, nor do I understand the reasoning behind it. Is it based on how recent a game is? Like games in '97 or later are pricier?
This is strange indeed, as Duke 3D (a clearly superior title) is only 5,99.
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