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Old 03-20-2010, 08:22 AM   #521
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Regardless of how shitty it looks, I'll probably play it (especially if there's a demo) and if I like that I'll probably buy it.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:28 AM   #522
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I'll probably play the demo as well. If only to crush my last hopes of a decent game completely.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:14 PM   #523
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Oh it could still be a decent game. Not a Max Payne game but a decent game, sure.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:20 PM   #524
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It's called Max Payne. Max Payne is the lead character. It's a Max Payne game whether people like it or not, albeit changed from the first two
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:55 PM   #525
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It's called Max Payne. Max Payne is the lead character. It's a Max Payne game whether people like it or not, albeit changed from the first two
There are parameters other than the title and a vague semblance of the lead character, that go into defining a game. We'll just have to see.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:45 AM   #526
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True. The devs are really pushing the fact that they've kept the whole "noir" aspect of the series intact, along with keeping the graphic novel story presentation (which I will personally be VERY upset with if it's not there), but without anything other than a handful of screenshots to go by so far...
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:15 AM   #527
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It's coming... its COMING, its here, get away, get awayyyy.

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Max Payne definitely looks more like Bruce Willis from Die Hard 4
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:27 PM   #528
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It's called Max Payne.
Yeah, so? If I call dog crap chocolate pudding does that make it so?

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Max Payne is the lead character.
If he looks, sounds and feels nothing like Max Payne, then no, he's Max Payne in name only.

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It's a Max Payne game whether people like it or not
Ever hear of Highlander 2 : The Quickening? Me neither. Ergo, people can ignore shitty sequels, and it matters more when we do it than the developers because we're the ones with the green-bills.
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:29 PM   #529
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Yeah, so? If I call dog crap chocolate pudding does that make it so?
That's stretching it quite a bit, I think.

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If he looks, sounds and feels nothing like Max Payne, then no, he's Max Payne in name only.
People can change. He's a lot older now. It fits the context of the story. Still want the leather jacket? Play the first two.



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Ever hear of Highlander 2 : The Quickening? Me neither. Ergo, people can ignore shitty sequels, and it matters more when we do it than the developers because we're the ones with the green-bills.
Then go ahead and ignore it. Nobody's jamming the game down your throat, just like nobody's forcing you to come in here and judge it.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:07 PM   #530
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That's stretching it quite a bit, I think.
No, thats exactly how it is. The metaphor fits perfectly. You even go on to admit that. If hes a fat bald guy that sounds nothing like Max Payne and acts almost nothing like him. Hes not Max Payne. You're hell bent on excusing change.

It's basically like saying Duke Nukem sporting a mohawk, piercings, a flannel shirt, and baggy gangster shorts, sporting the voice of Miley Cyrus and quoting shakespeare, whilst fighting in the Netherlands against mutant jack rabbits is still Duke Nukem because it says "Duke Nukem" on the package.

Theres a difference between "Times change" and "we're using 'Max Payne' as name recognition for a completely revised franchise."

Duke Nukem changed when he went from 2D to 3D, but he was still Duke Nukem. He still had the same general appearance, the same general attitude, the same goal. The volume and resolution were kicked up, thats all. What they're doing here is the totally wrong thing to do. They took everything about Max Payne that was awesome, picked it up, put it in a trash can, and started right the Hell over.

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People can change. He's a lot older now. It fits the context of the story. Still want the leather jacket? Play the first two.
I guess anyone who invests love, time, and money into the first two and would like to see the same themes continued can just go "**** off" right? Please.

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Then go ahead and ignore it. Nobody's jamming the game down your throat, just like nobody's forcing you to come in here and judge it.
...and Nobody is forcing these guys to screw it all up, either. As long as they're willing to screw it up, im willing to rant and rave about it. I love Max Payne. I dont want to see it screwed up, and yes, it looks absolutely crappy what they're doing to it. I will be a humongous ass about it for the rest of my life, and be damn happy to do so.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:20 PM   #531
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I know I have said this a million times, but wait until we get a better look. We have seen maybe 10 screens if that, and have very little info on the game. You have no idea whether it will be faithful to the series or not Commando. We have seen much more of DNF than we have seen of this game and that is saying something.
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:22 PM   #532
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Honestly, I don't know why I'm continuing this conversation, because both of our arguments are pure speculation. But oh well...welcome to the intarnetz

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No, thats exactly how it is. The metaphor fits perfectly. You even go on to admit that. If hes a fat bald guy that sounds nothing like Max Payne and acts almost nothing like him. Hes not Max Payne. You're hell bent on excusing change.
Hell bent on excusing change? I'm just trying to be optimistic instead of being afraid of change. And how do you know how he's going to "act" in the game? I'm not saying that I know the answer to that, but come on. There's all that speculation again.

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It's basically like saying Duke Nukem sporting a mohawk, piercings, a flannel shirt, and baggy gangster shorts, sporting the voice of Miley Cyrus and quoting shakespeare, whilst fighting in the Netherlands against mutant jack rabbits is still Duke Nukem because it says "Duke Nukem" on the package.
Alright, now THAT'S taking it a bit too far .

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Theres a difference between "Times change" and "we're using 'Max Payne' as name recognition for a completely revised franchise."
Who said anything about a franchise? From what I've heard, this is the last Max Payne game.

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Duke Nukem changed when he went from 2D to 3D, but he was still Duke Nukem. He still had the same general appearance, the same general attitude, the same goal. The volume and resolution were kicked up, thats all. What they're doing here is the totally wrong thing to do. They took everything about Max Payne that was awesome, picked it up, put it in a trash can, and started right the Hell over.
Again, you're assuming things that nobody knows. You can tell that this has absolutely nothing in common with the first two games by looking at six screenshots and a few interviews?

And let me ask you this - if YOU were making Max Payne 3 (don't try using the "if I had my way it wouldn't be made" argument, because, face it - it's happening), would you think his appearance and attitude would be the same nearly a decade after the events of the first two? Would it make sense for it to all stay the same? You'd have to be pretty cold blooded to not be f*cked up after going through all of that.

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I guess anyone who invests love, time, and money into the first two and would like to see the same themes continued can just go "**** off" right? Please.
First of all, I still play the first two games, and I adore them. Second, how do you know what themes the story will follow? You're immediately crying foul because, visually, the game looks different, and bullet time is being tweaked.



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...and Nobody is forcing these guys to screw it all up, either. As long as they're willing to screw it up, im willing to rant and rave about it. I love Max Payne. I dont want to see it screwed up, and yes, it looks absolutely crappy what they're doing to it. I will be a humongous ass about it for the rest of my life, and be damn happy to do so.
Then by all means, carry on. If it sucks, you can say "I told you so", and vice-versa.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:57 AM   #533
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I know I have said this a million times, but wait until we get a better look. We have seen maybe 10 screens if that, and have very little info on the game. You have no idea whether it will be faithful to the series or not Commando. We have seen much more of DNF than we have seen of this game and that is saying something.
Exactly.
With the information we have now (next to none) and the media we've seen (about five screens that show... nothing) it's hard to really form a solid opinion on the game.

And with Rockstar and Take 2 not giving out any info at all... that doesn't help.

Cleric, some people are against the changes for these exact reasons. We've seen no gameplay... heard nothing solid on story, haven't heard what Max sounds like now... we have nothing to go by other than what has been said.
And with two games already down, it's a very odd choice to come in and change everything.
People were fans of the Max Payne games because of how the first two looked, played and felt... Max Payne 3 looks to be changing all of that. So yeah, people are going to hell bent against it. Fine. Let them.

Because until some gameplay footage and more solid information surfaces... there's no way you can convince someone any different.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:58 PM   #534
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I actually think the game has gone into hibernation because the devs are taking the criticism to heart and are changing things up a bit.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:14 AM   #535
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Understood, DA. It just kind of stinks that we're hearing the two extremes of the argument (me being one ) while we really don't know what's in store for the game. I'm not shunning it because I love the MP series and hope this new one can stay faithful. If I get let down, than so be it.
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Old 05-16-2010, 03:51 AM   #536
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I actually think the game has gone into hibernation because the devs are taking the criticism to heart and are changing things up a bit.
I bloody hope so.
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:54 PM   #537
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I think there were a few people around here who thought the game might have been scrapped. Just to confirm that it hasn't been, Red Dead Redemption comes with a card that says "Max Payne 3, coming soon."
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:20 PM   #538
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I bloody hope so.
And that makes 3.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:38 PM   #539
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^^Yeah, MegaMustaine, I saw the Max Payne ads in some unboxing videos... Nice to see they're really targeting at releasing Max Payne soon.

While I don't hate the 'way' they're going with Max Payne, I have to admit that I'd have loved to see more of the young lad in New York, and see Mona coming back.. Fighting back the mob and the corrupted government.

I'm not brasilian but, about the jungle settings... please, knock it off. Brasil and Latin America is not a jungle, damn industralization and construction of urban cities has grown just too much to say we live in a fooking place full of trees. Nothing wrong with that, but I find it totally nonsense that kind of stereotype.

Also, I'm not sure about this being the last game. See how they emphasized on Max's 'lost years'? There's something going on there.

One way or another, I really hope they change back some things and make Max younger, with hair and more in shape... And I so much want to remind everyone that Max Payne withouth his glorious jacket is simply not Max Payne. Anyway, I have yet to see how it turns out, cause I really hope they do it right.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:01 AM   #540
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I'm all for whatever change they make, but after playing Alan Wake I'm a little disappointed that Remedy will not be developing the third installment. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure R* will do an amazing job but it will be hard for them to capture the Remedy feel. By the way because I'm going to spam the hell out this forum promoting Alan Wake, if you like MP go buy Alan Wake immediately!!!!
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:29 AM   #541
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Haha.. I support that! Now that they've released Alan Wake, they may go back and do Alan Wake 2, depending on numbers. Otherwise, I'd like to see Remedy Entertainment being 'hired back' for another Max Payne installment.

Sure, I don't want them (R* Vancouver) to scrap what they've done up to now, but I wouldn't mind Remedy coming back and do a fourth Max Payne after this.

I hope TV Shows are back on the Max Payne world and probably evolve that concept in some manner; this is what I'm most afraid of, tvshows not coming back... All I care of is details!! features! come on!

I've yet to play Alan Wake, but I've been doing a Max Payne 1 & 2 marathon for the sake of it, and I'll do it again once a definite Max Payne 3 release date is announced.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:07 PM   #542
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They should change Max Payne, cause it don't look like him.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:01 PM   #543
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May Payne 3 Delayed Again
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:33 PM   #544
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Why the ?

This can only be good news.
Maybe they listened to the outcry, and are changing it.

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Old 06-08-2010, 04:07 PM   #545
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Why the ?
Because I want to play this game...
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:42 PM   #546
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I wonder if Max Payne's legendary leopard shirt will be featured in this game as a DLC item.

Perhaps his hair will be a DLC item?

'ho boy, this game. On one hand, it's interesting that they're apparently not trying to emulate the old games. On the other hand...
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:39 PM   #547
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^Hair as a DLC FTW!!
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:49 PM   #548
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I dont think they would go so far as the hair as dlc.

But DEFINITELY the leather jacket would be $5
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Old 06-08-2010, 06:53 PM   #549
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With that extra year they can put Max back in New York and give him hair again.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:39 PM   #550
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I love MP - MP2 is if not the BEST videogame made ever, The only game I will never ever delete from harddisk.
But the first MP3 screenshots I thought are ridiculous,
this image explains everything I was thinking about it
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:06 AM   #551
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Who here thinks that Max Payne looks like Tom Cruise from Tropic Thunder?

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Old 06-12-2010, 12:43 PM   #552
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More like Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:58 AM   #553
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Um, no. Totally Tom Cruise from Tropic Thunder.
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Not surprised at all. Kind of waiting for them to delay it.
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