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Old 04-14-2007, 09:07 PM   #1
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Cool DukeKart
The title says it all, this is my next project for EDuke32.

Progress has happened much faster than I anticipated, hence the topic posting earlier than what I originally predicted in my DukeCTF thread.

Even though the progress I've made is nice, its still not near any sort of release. The site has some basic info and a LOT of missing pictures (explained later), but does have some development screenshots to keep yourselves drooling

The biggest thing that would hold this back from a release is the artwork. Currently I'm using Mario Kart sprites as place holders until I can get some other artwork in there. I am NOT planning on distributing the Mario Kart sprites as I tend to like the absence of legal trouble in my life and plan to keep it that way.

I've been searching for any GPL/CC/PubDom art that I could use in this project and the only thing that I've found that I could use are Super Tux Kart models as they are released under the GPL. The only problem is they are in 3DAC format. I've tried a couple of times to convert them to MD2 with blender, but always get some odd errors. (must be my noob-ness with blender or my complete lack of understanding with anything art related)

The ideal thing would be to use Duke Nukem related models, since it is an EDuke32 mod.

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As always, questions, comments and feedback is appreciated
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:51 PM   #2
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There is also the SpeedTrax TC for Duke Nukem made using the old con system:

http://wiki.eduke32.com/duke3d/tc/speedtrax/

Some of the maps and graphics in there might be worth looking at. I don't know if the author can be contacted.

I think it would be funny as hell to have Duke Nukem characters driving carts around.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:02 PM   #3
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Speedtrax's maps have a Mario Kart-type feel for the most part - there's also Fakir (Geoffrey)'s usermaps at MSDN. It has some nice cartoony graphics so that might be useful - if you're going for that graphical approach.

It sounds interesting, will definitely keep my eye on it
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:18 AM   #4
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Awesome Maybe you can convince someone to make kart-versions of duke and duke's enemies, like they're doing in doomkart:
http://forum.zdoom.org/potato.php?t=...r=asc&start=45

Good luck with this
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:15 AM   #5
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I could help by putting the HRP models on carts and render out sprites as well as making md3 versions. Just need a cart model.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:02 AM   #6
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Cool. Just for the hell of it, I decided to draw up my own "Duke Kart" sprite ...



It's a little rough. I kept it about the same size as the sprites from Duke 3D, and even used the Duke3D colour pallet. It was loosely based on the Pig Tank. If I wasn't lazy right now, I'd try drawing the rest of the set.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:30 AM   #7
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That looks cool .
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:43 AM   #8
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:48 AM   #9
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Looks awesome! Can't wait to see the Battlelord cart
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:59 AM   #10
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Cool. Just for the hell of it, I decided to draw up my own "Duke Kart" sprite ...



It's a little rough. I kept it about the same size as the sprites from Duke 3D, and even used the Duke3D colour pallet. It was loosely based on the Pig Tank. If I wasn't lazy right now, I'd try drawing the rest of the set.
Haha. That looks cool
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:51 AM   #11
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Oh ****, that reminds me - I made a couple of recon cars a while back based on the tank and pigplanes, but I've never been able to find a use for them. If you want then you can use them, I guess:

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Old 04-15-2007, 01:33 PM   #12
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How about we use the actual 2 pig tanks and the recon car without modifications? That'd be corny.
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:01 PM   #13
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Maybe we could have several cars for each character (ie start with Tank, win a certain race track and unlock recon car/Geoffrey's car/Kev's car)? Or possibly upgrade your car over time?
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:55 PM   #14
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Oh ****, that reminds me - I made a couple of recon cars a while back based on the tank and pigplanes, but I've never been able to find a use for them. If you want then you can use them, I guess:

Holy shit THOSE ARE AWESOME.

Could you release them?
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:55 PM   #15
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Wow what feedback!

@DeeperThought and Telee:
Speedtrax is interesting, albit broken (you can just set jump to a button and really mess stuff up ). I really did like the graphics, mood-wise its much lighter whereas Duke3D's are a bit more serious/dark, but that is sort of a duh type thing huh?

@Parkar:
That would be awsome if you could render them into models/sprites for me! I'll keep an eye out for a cart model to help

@kev_hetic:
thats a sweet looking rig there. wish i had some of your artistic talent

@Geoffrey:
Your pig-cop tank would be a good character in DukeKart. And then to fit with the theme we could have Duke drive something like a WW2 style jeep or one of those vehicles that requires three lungs to say. Just because its a kart mod doesn't mean it has to be carts

@Telee's second post:
An upgrade system would be plausible, although changing stats would be easier than changing the art IMO. eg: gain points based on placement 1st->4 pnts, 2nd->3, 3rd->2, 4th->1 and then use those points to increase speed, acceleration, or turning ability.

Had one of those random ideas (tm) where it could be like Diddy Kong Racing where after you complete a world/episode you race one vs. one against one of the big bosses. we'll see

Well here is run down what I need to get done code wise
Weapons: oilslick,rocket,homing rocket,landmine/fake item box
Waypoints/Checkpoints (mostly for bots)
Racer's positon (right now says everyone is in first )
---Thinking of using Waypoints to help with this one, hence waypoints before this
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:00 PM   #16
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Hmmm...In eduke32 you can disable jumping completely. You'll definitely need waypoints so they know where to go, and so the game doesnt get confused.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:24 PM   #17
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Hmmm...In eduke32 you can disable jumping completely.
I already have disabled jumping, I was commenting on SpeedTrax. It was made for Duke1.5 so the way of removing jumping was to not have a key bound to it. Effective, yet easily changeable
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:27 PM   #18
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is this going to be sprites then a addon for highresolution textures or just sprites because i think it would look great in hrp form
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:29 PM   #19
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Probably sprites to go for a classic look - At least, that's the way I'd want it.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:42 PM   #20
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Yeah cool
its good to see some Duke Nukem mods poping up
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:15 PM   #21
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I'm gonna say we'll start off with sprites as the main way to go, but I am definately not going to shun any models. That way everyone can play the way they want
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:11 AM   #22
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If you get the gameplay decent, I think it would be possible to do kart versions of all the 3D characters..
I'd be interested in doing the Trooper-kart.
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Old 04-16-2007, 06:42 AM   #23
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Your pig-cop tank would be a good character in DukeKart. And then to fit with the theme we could have Duke drive something like a WW2 style jeep or one of those vehicles that requires three lungs to say. Just because its a kart mod doesn't mean it has to be carts
Ok then, here they are. Just promise you won't replace it the second something better comes along, I've had it on my hd for a while and I don't just want to throw it away.



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Old 04-16-2007, 07:02 AM   #24
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This project seems to be interesting.

I can feel the excitement around here
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:51 AM   #25
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If you are going to make those cars 3d, I can provide a car with player from Decay in it That would be funny, since this guy looks serious
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Old 04-16-2007, 09:59 AM   #26
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I have to say I'd really like if this would get up off the ground and playable
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:22 AM   #27
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Here, I finished the animation for my Pig Cop Kart, if you want it:

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Preview:

It was such a pain in the ass to animate, so I'm not sure if I will make any more. Maybe when I get more free time. Enjoy.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:25 AM   #28
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Kev, that's all sorts of awesome
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:26 AM   #29
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Thanks.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:47 AM   #30
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It was such a pain in the ass to animate, so I'm not sure if I will make any more.
And you used the maximum number of viewable angles, too! The only thing it lacks now is some animation for the treds. But that would only require some minor adjustments to the frames.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:07 AM   #31
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Hehe, that's cute

I wonder how the Octabrain and Slimer karts will look like

I might try to do some concept art but I'm afraid I'm too lazy to do all sprite frames.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:19 PM   #32
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This is awesome
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:33 PM   #33
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Great stuff dudes
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:12 PM   #34
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Kev that is sweet.

Also, Geoffrey, I could possibly find a use for the recon car in the future so dont worry. (With some minor edits of course, if thats fine with you)
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:37 PM   #35
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I'm guessing slimer won't be in?

Maybe it can be used as a trap? (it jumps on the player's face, blocking their view)
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Old 04-16-2007, 09:57 PM   #36
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haha looks pretty good.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:20 PM   #37
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You can try a General Grievous transport for Octabrain, because of the tentacles...
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:12 AM   #38
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I'm guessing slimer won't be in?

Maybe it can be used as a trap? (it jumps on the player's face, blocking their view)
Run over slimers could have the same effect as Bananas from the Mario Kart games

Pipebombs as mines...

Forward shooting shrink rays, to shrink enemies to half size, making the slower too (like the lightning from Mario Kart 64... just, it's one hit and not all players, like the lighting did)

Freeze ray to freeze enemies in fornt of you...
Lasts only a few seconds (1-2) but they'll glide forwards, without being able to turn... so these short 1-2 seconds will be a real pain, as you can't control your kart

Steroids for speed

I'd like to see these
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:16 PM   #39
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This project seems to be interesting.

I can feel the excitement around here
You get that feeling too? At least I wasn't the only one. I guess there is some sort of humor when you put the world's baddest bad ass in an almost kiddie type game

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If you are going to make those cars 3d, I can provide a car with player from Decay in it That would be funny, since this guy looks serious
I think im gonna go with sprites so people who play in classic mode, but im definately going to take advantage of an hrp like setup. So if you could do that I would be eternally grateful.

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Run over slimers could have the same effect as Bananas from the Mario Kart games

Pipebombs as mines...
(......)
Steroids for speed
I updated the "About DukeKart" page, i think you'll see, were on the same track. (no pun intended)
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:45 PM   #40
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Hmm...if you can get this off the ground and show some real progress...I'll see if I can chip anything in. This looks to be promising. Also, try to keep everything in terms of duke. Try to throw in the Atomic Health somewhere!
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