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Old 05-27-2009, 05:41 PM   #41
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I know that, I'm still intrigued by the additions and the couple surprises you said you added.
The couple of surprises are of a personal nature, given my connection to Rise of the Triad. That's about all I'll say.

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Yes I realize that, but as has been stated above DOSBox does and you can mount a BIN/CUE CD image as a CD-ROM using MP3s as CD Audio tracks in DOSBox so that the game thinks they're CDA tracks. DOSBox has a command called IMGMOUNT where you can mount CD images as actual drives.
Hmm. Lemme talk to someone about that.

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But that's not even why I said it. I meant for personal use just so they aren't lost forever. Or even for the people who DO know how to put it all together in a BIN/CUE CD image (or even burn to an actual CD) to use with the game.
Well, they wouldn't be lost forever. 3DR would still ahve them.

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The shareware version has MIDI music. I dont see how the full version wouldn't support MIDI Also, ProAsm's SWP has an option for either CD or MIDI music ingame.
Shareware has midi music to keep the file download size down. Plus you couldn't mount CD audio in standard DOS like that. Remember, you didn't need things like DOSBox when these games were new.

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This is great!

So Joe, what games will be included in the store? Maybe you could package DOSBox with the older DOS games! Will they still work in DOSBox or do you have to have Windows? One last thing, will the FreeWare games be for sale in the store too?
(just kidding, sorry, could not resist <EG>)

Thank you for all your hard work Joe.

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Old 05-27-2009, 06:12 PM   #42
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I will definitely be buying some of these from the new store! I'm glad 3D Realms will still be selling their games. It's also nice to see that you guys finally got some things taken care of, like the Rott package and DNMP.

I do have one question, though-

Will 100% of the money from purchases made at the new store basically go to 3DR? Obviously, I want to support the company if I can, and I'd like to have an idea about how much of the money would go to 3D Realms' bank account.
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:40 PM   #43
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Shareware has midi music to keep the file download size down. Plus you couldn't mount CD audio in standard DOS like that. Remember, you didn't need things like DOSBox when these games were new.
What Im saying is, Shadow Warrior DOES support MIDI playback. You said it didnt
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:43 PM   #44
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OH NICE! ROTT with all of the goodies...this is pretty cool considering I've spent the last TWO DAYS trying to get a game of ROTT going with friends online. (Yes we all bought the game a loooong time ago :P ). I've tried with WinROTT, WinROTTGL, and good ol' standard ROTT with DOSBox and Dukonnector...connection problems connection problems lol.

Needless to say, my interest in ROTT just kicked back in for me and I'll definitely buy the ROTT game from the new store. Now I'm all antsy like a little kid again...and I'm 26..lol
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:59 PM   #45
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I will definitely be buying some of these from the new store! I'm glad 3D Realms will still be selling their games. It's also nice to see that you guys finally got some things taken care of, like the Rott package and DNMP.

I do have one question, though-

Will 100% of the money from purchases made at the new store basically go to 3DR? Obviously, I want to support the company if I can, and I'd like to have an idea about how much of the money would go to 3D Realms' bank account.
Yeah, as far as I know - obviously beyond the cut that the store takes - but that's the same anywhere.

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What Im saying is, Shadow Warrior DOES support MIDI playback. You said it didnt
Well, if I remember right, the full version doesn't have code to recognize it - it forced you to use CD audio only. It was (if I remember right) at the time considered to be a less obnoxious form of copy protection.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:01 PM   #46
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Huh, thats odd. I figured the full version would have the same 'features' as the shareware.

NinjaEdit: Is the code simply not there, or is it just because there are no midis included in the full release?
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:03 PM   #47
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Joe any chance of T-shirts , ash trays or hats comming anytime soon?
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:21 PM   #48
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48.3 meg download? That's awfully large. I'm going
to need the hope that the internet doesn't die for
the next four hours. To top it off, I'm going to need
to find a bunch of working floppy disks.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:25 PM   #49
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Joe any chance of T-shirts , ash trays or hats comming anytime soon?
This has to be a joke post.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:50 PM   #50
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Joe any chance of T-shirts , ash trays or hats comming anytime soon?


---------- Post added at 11:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 PM ----------

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48.3 meg download? That's awfully large.
Not for what's included in there it isn't.

For shits & giggles, here's all of the new files, and what their sizes are:

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Old 05-27-2009, 11:11 PM   #51
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I'm really considering buying these. I already own many of these games on floppies, but who has a floppy drive anymore?

That being said, you can pry the Commander Keen floppies (and the pink cheat sheet) from my cold, dead hands.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:07 AM   #52
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I'm really considering buying these. I already own many of these games on floppies, but who has a floppy drive anymore?
3DR actually had only two floppy drives left. They were both USB floppies on a database machine. They were used to manufacture the floppy games we still sold until recently.

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That being said, you can pry the Commander Keen floppies (and the pink cheat sheet) from my cold, dead hands.
The hint sheets (where they existed) are in these files (as pdf scans). Same goes for the manuals (where they existed).
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:12 AM   #53
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Joe would it be possible to release the Shadow Warrior music as MP3 to allow end users to BURN a cd to be used with the game? Thats the only regret I have to loosing my SW disc; the music was fantastic.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:10 AM   #54
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Not to make this into a Steam debate, but will this be put on steam? I'd love to see it there, though obviously Wolfenstein 3D probably wouldn't be part of the package.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:58 AM   #55
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Topic: Shadow Warrior music

For those who are looking for Shadow Warrior with
the music, eBay has a bunch of copies up.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:51 AM   #56
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Joe would it be possible to release the Shadow Warrior music as MP3 to allow end users to BURN a cd to be used with the game? Thats the only regret I have to loosing my SW disc; the music was fantastic.
You reminded me of Tomb Raider 1 & 2 PC version as some copies didn't come with the music included. A fan site has the tracks for download and explain how to burn it to disc. Now, Joe could do a similar thing, but could make the audio tracks only available with the full version.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:50 AM   #57
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If the games in the new online store are remastered with DOSBox wrappers, what if a new version of DOSBox comes out, how can I update the DOSBox wrappers to the latest version?
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:58 AM   #58
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Thats actually a good point, especially since a new version of DOSBox just came out.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:01 AM   #59
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Just replace the old version of Dosbox with the new one.
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:16 AM   #60
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If the games in the new online store are remastered with DOSBox wrappers, what if a new version of DOSBox comes out, how can I update the DOSBox wrappers to the latest version?
A newer version of DOSBox is out, its 0.73.

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Hey Joe, do you know the ballpark price range of the games?
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:42 AM   #61
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I believe Joe said in his first post not to ask about game prices as he doesn't know.
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:51 AM   #62
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This is fantastic! Thanks Joe for all your work!
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:59 AM   #63
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This is great! Can't wait to spend my money in the new store!
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:06 AM   #64
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Not to make this into a Steam debate, but will this be put on steam? I'd love to see it there, though obviously Wolfenstein 3D probably wouldn't be part of the package.
This isn't steam. It's a tradtional online store through one of Digital River's offerings.

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If the games in the new online store are remastered with DOSBox wrappers, what if a new version of DOSBox comes out, how can I update the DOSBox wrappers to the latest version?
You won't need that. The version of DOSBox I'm shipping with the games is 0.72, and works. Given it WORKS, there's no real reason to replace it unless you really wanted to for some reason.

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You reminded me of Tomb Raider 1 & 2 PC version as some copies didn't come with the music included. A fan site has the tracks for download and explain how to burn it to disc. Now, Joe could do a similar thing, but could make the audio tracks only available with the full version.
I'll examine this, but not until next week. I'm leaving in less than an hour to go to the hospital with my wife. Our son is being born today.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:11 AM   #65
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Well congratulations, Joe! Hope everything goes well!

Lol, love how you're so nonchalant about it.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:11 AM   #66
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This isn't steam. It's a tradtional online store through one of Digital River's offerings.
Of course, was just wondering if you would expand that to Steam, but i guess that's a no then

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I'll examine this, but not until next week. I'm leaving in less than an hour to go to the hospital with my wife. Our son is being born today.
Congratulations, i wish both of you good luck
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:48 AM   #67
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Of course, was just wondering if you would expand that to Steam, but i guess that's a no then
I can't address that. If 3DR would do something with Steam in the future is up to them. Remember, I don't work there anymore.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:56 AM   #68
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I'm really considering buying these. I already own many of these games on floppies, but who has a floppy drive anymore?
I've got a couple of months old Core2 machine here with one - it's a 5" drive at that! (And yes, Windows 7 has a nice icon for it too...)

I doubt there are many others with a machine with only a 5" drive, at least not machines built this century...
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:22 AM   #69
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I'm still running on an old 2.5Ghz mobo with a FDD controller. So I've actually got a real old-school floppy drive. I could even throw in one of the 5.25" drives I have lying around if I wanted to but I don't have room (DVD-RW, DVD-ROM, CD-RW, and a Zip Disk drive taking up space).
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:24 AM   #70
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This is freakin' sweet news, glad to see this Joe! I will certainly be grabbing Balls of Steel and ROTT ASAP.

QUESTION: It appears these will be separate downloads, but what about a nice "full collection" download at a discounted price? I don't need all these games as I have quite a few of them, but I would definitely go for a full package deal if it's lower than all together.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:25 AM   #71
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Congrats Joe!
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:25 AM   #72
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Thanks for your tremendous effort Joe.

I will no doubt buy Balls of Steel and some couple of other packs too so that George can get some monye and with thousands od such purchases, hopefully he will get enough money to swing DNF back into action.

A question, is the dukenukem3d.exe Atomic edition of DN3D and how does it vary from the gog.com release ?
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:14 AM   #73
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Do you plan to offer the extended download service or backup CD service from Digital River for an additional fee in the new online store? Digital River normally only allows 30 days from date of purchase to download the software unless the extended download service is purchased at the same time as the software.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:34 AM   #74
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It appears these will be separate downloads, but what about a nice "full collection" download at a discounted price? I don't need all these games as I have quite a few of them, but I would definitely go for a full package deal if it's lower than all together.
This would appeal to me also. Maybe Joe could get us an info from his ex-employers?

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Old 05-28-2009, 10:47 AM   #75
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This would appeal to me also. Maybe Joe could get us an info from his ex-employers?

Best of luck to you, all three of you.
He has a girl too :P so its all four of them . But congrats joe...

But ya as soon as the music issue is taken care of im going to buy shadow warrior too, I just got paid .
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:10 PM   #76
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The game only understands CDA tracks. It doesn't play midi or mp3 or anything like that. It would have to be mounted as CDA stuff, and it would be a few hundred meg to download - the decision was to offer it this way. You could put your own CD in there if you wanted.
500mb is less than nothing today (especially when you paid for).
If you include the mp3's (80mb instead of 500), we can burn it on a cd and have the complete game.

So, I don't understand the problem here.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:31 PM   #77
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my guess is if apogee puts its games on any other download store it will be through GOG.com and Apogee LLC. it seems that id new distro activision blizzard had the id classics put up on steam but they may make it to other sites.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:33 PM   #78
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Oh, so it could be considered a mistake I've got ROTT from gog.com recently -_-
Unless one doesn't care to buy something again of course.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:37 PM   #79
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500mb is less than nothing today (especially when you paid for).
If you include the mp3's (80mb instead of 500), we can burn it on a cd and have the complete game.

So, I don't understand the problem here.
Haha I just purposed that . I think the music is kinda critical to the game.
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Old 05-28-2009, 12:50 PM   #80
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I didn't know 3DR made death rally! I used to love that game.
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