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Old 08-12-2006, 12:16 PM   #41
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How would they know who works at 3DR though?

And if they did, you wouldn't be able to stop them from posting it on wikipedia or something anyway(so there'd be less people who know who's making DNF who wouldn't otherwise, maybe still too much though if you're trying to keep it a secret)...
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:29 PM   #42
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I just worry about people constantly trying to put it in, and me having to remove it. I need to give it some more thought.
Yeah, that IS bad i see...
Maybe changes should be accepted by moderators (You) before it's going to be added..? I don't know if this is possible, but maybe everytime someone wants to add something, it could work like some kind of notification, asking you to be added... Of course, this would be more work (but at least you know beforehand, instead of having to find, and fix yourself)

I don't know, this is my best suggestion for now...
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:31 PM   #43
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@Xerxes
They could make stuff up?

@Micki!
Sounds like a reasonable idea.

@Joe
I can see where that is a possible issue, but do you really think somebody'd do that? (Yes...?)
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Old 08-14-2006, 03:19 AM   #44
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I'd love to see a 3DR Wiki.
Sure, Wikipedia is great, but some of the still very useful content gets deleted... and rightfully so.

What I mean with that is, Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, and because of that doesn't need to list default movement keys, cheat codes, background information on a game's sound track, and so on, but a 3DR Wiki could have this because of its specialization.
Of course, depending on what the rules for it would be.

Maybe it should be so that only you (Joe) can actually start new articles?
You could make one for every subject you deem worthy (probably games, companies, people, maybe even levels and songs?), and people wouldn't be able to create nonsense stuff, just edit the existing (so far empty) articles.
That should be possible with the software, and should help keep things relatively organized.
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:53 PM   #45
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I guess if I clearly dictate that the FAQ was info from fans, and in certain areas isn't always considered official (like who works here), then I might be able to get away with it.

I'll be contributing, mostly in the area of old school games, as that's where I have a lot of personal interest.

I'll probably still do this. Just need to set aside some time and get some basic structure up.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:51 AM   #46
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Great...
Please add a nice litle banner with the Apogee and/or 3DR logo on the upper left corner, as with the Prey Wiki has it... Or if possible, make it similar as the one used here at 3DR's website, with the chagning logo... Just with all kinds of games instead, and the Apogee and 3DR logo too... But only really if it is possible, and if you want to...
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Old 08-15-2006, 11:26 AM   #47
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Old 08-15-2006, 11:28 AM   #48
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I think the concept is fantastic.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:37 PM   #49
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I've made up my mind tonight. I'm gonna do this. I just need to set aside some time to get the software running, and then write some policies for how things should be done, etc...
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:45 PM   #50
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Joe - I could add info on how to get each game running smoothly in dosbox, if that would help. Assuming of course each older game gets its own page.
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:11 PM   #51
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This one will be more free than the Prey one. I'm planning to allow just about anyone to edit it. So if someone wants to do a bit on DOSBox for each game, go for it.
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:17 PM   #52
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Well I wanted a chance (or reason, if you will) to try out editing a wiki site. I planned on making a dosbox oriented site of my own so this would be a little test to see if I want to bother.
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:42 PM   #53
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This one will be more free than the Prey one. I'm planning to allow just about anyone to edit it. So if someone wants to do a bit on DOSBox for each game, go for it.
As in, you dont need an account or anything?
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:45 PM   #54
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I said just about anyone. Not "anyone".
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Old 08-15-2006, 11:17 PM   #55
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Phew. Had me a little worried for a second there
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:44 AM   #56
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I look forword to the 3DR Wiki. Actually, rather excited.

Kind of looking forword to this more then DNF currently.
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:35 AM   #57
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More than DNF? Traitor!

Joe, are you thinking of implementing wiki user accounts that work on all editable 3D Realms wikis or are seperate accounts required for each wiki?
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:00 AM   #58
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I didn't think about user accounts. Probably will be for each, since the Prey one is not editable by the public, and the DNF one I need to think about some more.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:23 AM   #59
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Would it be easier to use the user accounts on the forums, or would that just be a royal PITA?
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:34 AM   #60
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Pita.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:06 PM   #61
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Great to know it's gonna happen...
I'm looking forward to see the wiki now
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:27 PM   #62
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Well, it's gonna be close to empty when it launches, people will need to put the info in themselves.
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:30 PM   #63
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Sure, i hope to be part of that anyways...

But mainly i'm looking forward to how it develops over time... Hopefully there's some interesting/cool/funny stuff i didn't know before...
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:35 PM   #64
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Sure, i hope to be part of that anyways...

But mainly i'm looking forward to how it develops over time... Hopefully there's some interesting/cool/funny stuff i didn't know before...
QFT. Same here
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:54 AM   #65
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I envision it starting off as basically a Wiki version of our product catalogs, and then people will expand on it over time.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:20 AM   #66
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Will submitted items have to be approved before they are posted, or just post and correct as it goes?
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:34 AM   #67
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Will submitted items have to be approved before they are posted, or just post and correct as it goes?
I haven't totally decided on that. Submissions would help vandalism, but probably discourage editing.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:38 AM   #68
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the WIKI sounds like an excellent idea
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:02 AM   #69
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So what's the latest news on this? Did it fall off into limbo, is it a WID, or was it decided as a no-go?
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:14 AM   #70
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I'm curious aswell.

I also like this part in Manhattan Project's WIKI:

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Duke's primary enemy in the game was originally supposed to be his old arch-nemesis Doctor Proton, but this was changed to avoid possible continuity clashes with Duke Nukem Forever.
Which means (atleast up to the point when that was written) that DNF will still have Doctor Proton!
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:05 PM   #71
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I'm curious aswell.
Which means (atleast up to the point when that was written) that DNF will still have Doctor Proton!
No, it just means that when Sunstorm decided to have Mech Morphix in DNMP, DNF might have eventually had Doctor Proton.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:28 AM   #72
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I could help with Dosbox articles as well..
Oh and VDMSound too.. id gladly write about that too
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:53 PM   #73
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Yeah, I still want to do it, I just need to work out the logistics. I would like folks to contribute, I think it would be fun. But I keep thinking of problems it can cause.

We'd probably need a reliable method of people who would police it for vandalism.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:51 PM   #74
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I'd go for it but I'm sure I'm not trusted enough.
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:37 AM   #75
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Yeah, I still want to do it, I just need to work out the logistics. I would like folks to contribute, I think it would be fun. But I keep thinking of problems it can cause.

We'd probably need a reliable method of people who would police it for vandalism.
If there's any way for us forumers to help, let us know. I really would love to see this project get off the ground.
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:17 PM   #76
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Wiki's galore!

Ahh, the problem is with the Wiki is just abuse and having someone oversee that it isn't abuse is a big heap of trust on your shoulders. Not to mention work.

Think of the Wiki as DNF. They want it perfect so, "WID".
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:22 PM   #77
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I'd go for it but I'm sure I'm not trusted enough.
Heh- I picture Joe in a Santa hat making a Naughty or Nice list...
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:59 AM   #78
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I could help with Dosbox articles as well..
Oh and VDMSound too.. id gladly write about that too
I don't know if you already have, but you can help out with DOSBox and VDMSound compatibility on the DOS Games Compatibility Wiki.

I would definitely help out with an Apogee/3DR wiki. If I understand the mandate of the wiki, it's to provide information that fans would be interested in, such as game descriptions, background information and trivia. It also sounds like there would be little or no overlap with my compatibility knowledgebase, even for Apogee/3D Realms games. Wikipedia discourages minutiae, but it sounds like there might be some overlap with Wikipedia, though. How did you envision the wiki differing from information that we could add to Wikipedia articles?
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Heh- I picture Joe in a Santa hat making a Naughty or Nice list...
Wishlist for people on the nice list?

DNF.

Wishlist for people on the naughty list?

A 'WID' sign.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:50 PM   #80
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I wouldn't be so damned hyper anal about sources and whatnot like Wikipedia is. And yeah, I'm sure it would overlap them a lot, but that's not the point. They're OUR games, there's no reason why I can't do that ourselves.

And yeah, I'd probably put some sort of tech stuff in there, it's a pretty natural extension.
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