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Old 12-21-2002, 01:56 AM   #41
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Re: Rise of the Source Code!
Here are some cool quotes/flamebait from the slashdot page on the topic

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On second thought, not to be disrespectful, and keeping up our good cheer...Maybe if the rest of 3DRealms died, we would get the *remnants* of the Duke Nukem Forever sourcecode released.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">[img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] ouch!!
Another DNF flame
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I think the whole Duke Nukem Whenever project is actually a front, and George Broussard and company are developing code for Carnivore, Magic Lantern, and other applications that have kept Janet Reno and John Ashcroft happy over the last four years. With the Patriot act and Homeland security, they are way to busy to make any games.

I wish I had a job where I never had to show results, and only had to produce 10 year-old code to make people happy.

Hail to the king, baby!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">1 word: [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

And most of the other comments were prasing ROTT, rightfully, as cool, "Paradigm altering"

Those comments in the readme from Scott Miller and Tom Hall are so cool and informative.
(Wonder what ROTT would be like under build, guess that is why they were willing to switch DNF over to unreal)
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Old 12-21-2002, 03:23 AM   #42
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Don't forget to read this:

http://www.classicgaming.com/rott/hell/

It's totally AWESOME!
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:27 AM   #43
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Re: Rise of the Source Code!
I'm away on a 2 day shopping holiday with my gf in Copenhagen and I have no accese to interett and u have to realease it just that day of the year when I don't have accese to the net, shame on u guys [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
Marry x-may

P.s.
Want Duke 3d sourse code for new year [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-21-2002, 11:10 AM   #44
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Cool, the rottsource.zip includes the RTSMaker source! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

With this it should be possible to create a WAD viewer/editor - running in Win32 or Linux - for Duke3D's and ROTT's RTS files and for DOOM's wad files. [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-21-2002, 11:22 AM   #45
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I think I’ll be opening a new section on my website now for this source code, and maybe host modifications.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not if I do it first! [img]graemlins/hhg.gif[/img]

I can't wait to see what the coders of these boards will do with it!
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Old 12-22-2002, 12:13 AM   #46
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Thanks alot 3DRealms, I still remember posts not that long ago begging for this source code that was lost for a time. I already downloaded it and am looking forward to checking it out and seeing if I can port it at all.

Joe; I honestly think you should include a link to <a href="http://www.3dgamers.com/news/more/1040402807/" target="_blank">3DGamers.com
</a>

They have the ROTT source plus shareware and other ROTT files on thier site and thier site has always been a real pleasure to download from (and fast) with no waits like on fileplanet. The link above take you directly to the page with the news about the ROTT source release.

Anyhow, it's nice to see some source released finally. I own the game, but all people need to test the code out is the shareware version.
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Old 12-22-2002, 11:39 AM   #47
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You almost gave me a heart attack, I thought you were releasing the DN3D source [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Yay, that's great news nonetheless, thanks 3DR ! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I thought it was the D3D source code too! Dammit!
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Old 12-22-2002, 06:05 PM   #48
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well, here's punishment for not reading the forums for a week...

ROTT source code, eh?

It seems my work here is done [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Now lets see if all the "release ROTT source" people are going to do something with it, I surely hope so.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 08:34 PM   #49
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Words can't describe how shocked and happy I am about this!!! I would've never thought this day would actually come. But hey, anything is possible [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Thanks 3DR
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Old 12-22-2002, 11:32 PM   #50
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Kev Boy:
Nice, although I can't do anything with it [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Neither can I (I'm NO programmer), but I'm curious to see what folks can come up with, as I'm probably the strongest supporter of ROTT that's still here. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There at 3DR or here in general? I'm pretty sure my love for ROTT can rival yours! [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:21 AM   #51
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Wow, the source code was finally released, and it only took em 8 years to do it.

Hate to burst everyone's bubble, but I got the feeling nothing meaningfull is gona happen. People are talking about things similar to Doom Legacy, online play, etc.. Well that stuff came out for Doom cuz Doom had a huge fan base, and it still does.

ROTT well, doesn't. The meager band of fans for ROTT probably doesn't include too many programmers, let alone "good ones".

Oh well, merry christmas [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 12:32 AM   #52
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(Wonder what ROTT would be like under build, guess that is why they were willing to switch DNF over to unreal)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">on that note, I wonder what ROTT would look like with the Unreal engine [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
 
Old 12-23-2002, 12:43 AM   #53
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ROTT well, doesn't. The meager band of fans for ROTT probably doesn't include too many programmers, let alone "good ones".
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">COUGH

Don't be such a pessimist [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 07:47 AM   #54
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The meager band of fans for ROTT probably doesn't include too many programmers, let alone "good ones".
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you kidding? NOW I CAN CHANGE THE WORLD!!! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:03 PM   #55
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Be a little more optimistic Lengis [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 04:10 PM   #56
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Since the ROTT fans(like me), have to make a whole new engine(based off the Tenebrae code), re-write most of the game...I mean how good of programmers are we? [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2002, 09:05 PM   #57
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I just got thirty-five bucks in the mail from my aunt in Delaware. Look forward to some money coming for a copy of RotT. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-24-2002, 10:35 AM   #58
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3DRealms:

I am interested in creating mods for ROTT using these soon-to-come source ports and I was wondering if you had any special/specific tools/programs you used to import/compile the data (like the tools ken made for d3d) and if you do would you mind releasing them? I know that the latest version of GFE (Game File Explorer) allows the extraction of files, but I was hoping to get something a little more specific to the actual game. If not do you know of any you could recommend?
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Old 12-24-2002, 02:06 PM   #59
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That's really great.

Thank's a lot for releasing the source code. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-24-2002, 03:24 PM   #60
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3DRealms:

I am interested in creating mods for ROTT using these soon-to-come source ports and I was wondering if you had any special/specific tools/programs you used to import/compile the data (like the tools ken made for d3d) and if you do would you mind releasing them? I know that the latest version of GFE (Game File Explorer) allows the extraction of files, but I was hoping to get something a little more specific to the actual game. If not do you know of any you could recommend?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">http://doomworld.com/xwe/ - wad editor wich supports rott .. only tried extracting files though.
And there are some mapping programs on the 3dr download page - http://www.3drealms.com/downloads.html
 
Old 12-24-2002, 05:53 PM   #61
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Ok I can try those, I just wasnt sure if the ones listed on the FTP page were the ones they used to create ROTT. If not they should still work out, but if 3DR does have any stashed away and would like to share that would be cool too.. if not its cool cause this year they gave us something a HELL of alot better than any world peace and good will towards men [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2002, 07:32 PM   #62
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I didn't think this was big enough news to be in its own thread, but it seems that a conversation has popped up at the DCemu message board about a possible port to the Sega Dreamcast.

Take a look [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2002, 07:50 PM   #63
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I didn't think this was big enough news to be in its own thread, but it seems that a conversation has popped up at the DCemu message board about a possible port to the Sega Dreamcast.

Take a look [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">thats sweet.. but doesnt that require to make it an iso and copy it that way or is it going to be a self make iso thing if you have the full version of rott?
 
Old 12-25-2002, 08:38 PM   #64
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^ Ummm crap... I'm not really sure what you mean Stinger? Are you asking me if you would have to copy the level files and stuff from the full ROTT game (or shareware version) and burn them to a disc with a bunch of files made to make it run on the DC? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2002, 09:42 PM   #65
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Keep in mind, ROTT is still commercial software, it is not legal to copy the registered CD, or burn an ISO of it (and give said copy to anyone else).

[ 12-26-2002, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: Joe3DR ]
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Old 12-26-2002, 01:05 AM   #66
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Eh, let's get off the subject before this thread gets closed or something. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-26-2002, 09:45 AM   #67
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Eh, let's get off the subject before this thread gets closed or something. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Indeed.
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Old 12-26-2002, 11:14 AM   #68
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^ Yeah, sorry about that. The legal issue thing slipped my mind [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-26-2002, 05:19 PM   #69
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How the hell did I miss this? :S

Anyway, all I can say is... "w00t"! I really love ROTT, but playing it on modern hardware is... slightly nauseating. I hope coders pick up on this quickly.

I still don't know how I missed this... it even had a /. article O_o
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Old 12-27-2002, 07:30 PM   #70
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IceColdDuke........does this mean that you've stopped working on the GL port of the Duke Nukem 3D ?
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Old 12-27-2002, 08:16 PM   #71
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IceColdDuke........does this mean that you've stopped working on the GL port of the Duke Nukem 3D ?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I stoped it due to lack of interest in the community. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] I could not program the entire thing myself....if anyone is still interested...the files are still up on sourceforge.
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Old 12-27-2002, 08:41 PM   #72
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I thought you were starting programming in another engine (not Build in which you said it was too difficult).Damn it was getting so good.Hope that someone will continue it.Thnx in advance though for making it and for starting porting ROTT [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] .
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Old 12-27-2002, 09:23 PM   #73
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I stoped it due to lack of interest in the community. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] I could not program the entire thing myself....if anyone is still interested...the files are still up on sourceforge.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's been a freakin' week! Some work ethic... [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:54 PM   #74
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W00t! I'm very glad that the Rott source was released!

I had some ideas for anyone doing the source ports, btw. The first is something like what they did with Doom/Boom with the removing of the limits. Rott has a certain number of floorcodes, right? Why not make it so that Rott has a ton more floors codes, around the area of 32,767. To keep the editors from having to be updated, make it so that we really don't need to add floorcodes anymore, except when we want to make it to where enemies can hear you from beyond the door or whatever. Then, when the map loads, the game will automatically generate the missing floorcodes.

Also, I had a small idea for angled walls. Not ones of any angle, but at a fixed 45 degrees. Some time ago, there was a Genesis game called "Zero Tolorence" (now public domain, IIRC). It had a Wolf-like engine, but also had 45-degree walls that took up exactly one tile. We could make two new infotiles that would add an angled effect to any wall. The renderer could just strech the image to fit. One for NE to SW, and one for NW to SE.

Anyway, my two ideas I had about 10 minutes ago.
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Old 12-28-2002, 12:26 AM   #75
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally Posted by: IceColdDuke
I stoped it due to lack of interest in the community. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] I could not program the entire thing myself....if anyone is still interested...the files are still up on sourceforge.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's been a freakin' week! Some work ethic... [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No.

He was talking about cancelling his GLDuke3d project.

GLROTT is still going ahead strong.
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Old 12-30-2002, 08:05 AM   #76
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Oh yeah...misread on my part.
My apologies [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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